UAV or Infantry

[CantWaitToSign]

This goes out to everybody. My question is which would all you pick out of UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle) Operator or Infantry? I've been debating this for a really long time. I'd love to be a UAV Operator but if I don't get that all the other MOS's in that career field are boring as hell. Infantry on the other hand yeah it's the toughest job because you're always going out in the field but it can also be the most fun job. Then again its also the most dangerous MOS so my question again is which would you prefer?

[skoozi]

How is someone else's preference going to help you in any way? You will be spending years in whatever field you choose, so it would be wise to pick something that interests you, not someone else.

[USMC90]

When I join I'm going 03, but I'm not you so your on your own bud.

[CantWaitToSign]

my last reply was to skoozi not you USMC90

[SkilletsUSMC]

Low blow... low blow... Keep em up gents... No need to get nasty.

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[CantWaitToSign]

Haha that picture is priceless and sorry Corporal just irritated that I'm looking for help and all he has to say in return is what does it matter what we choose.

[skoozi]

oh gee thanks for the help...ass. I was just getting an outside opinion heaven forbid I ask for some help in a forum where that's what you are supposed to do. Also if you would've read correctly they both interest me thus why this is such a big problem for me!

Oh, sorry, you must be in a "bad mood" again.

You asked what everyone else would prefer. You are trying to choose between two (very different) jobs. This isn't like looking a dessert menu and asking the waitress what she likes.
The fact of the matter is that everyone is different (especially in your case), and you shouldn't weigh things like this on other people's choices. You should be sitting down with your Recruiter, looking at each job in-depth with him, as well as yourself and your likes and abilities.

This is a place to ask questions and get sound advice before shipping to MCRD, not the Stupid Question Dump you seem to see it as.

[skoozi]

all he has to say in return is what does it matter what we choose.

You managed to take away the exact opposite of the point being made. It matters a great deal, which is why someone else's preferences are not going to help you.

[CantWaitToSign]

I don't get it really I don't. I'm in a great mood just asking a friendly question and this guy thinks he's something important and starts being a smartass about the whole thing. No matter what the hell I do someone gets mad. I could be like "Hey guys! My brother just got home from Iraq!" and someone gauranteed would say "Why the hell do we care?" or "Shut the **** up"...Seriously people need to lighten up on here

[skoozi]

Seriously people need to lighten up on here

Mainly you. You asked for advice, I offered it. You are quick to assume I'm being an *******, but I'm trying to help you realize that someone could say a job is "the ****" and you end up stuck in that job and realize that it just isn't for you.

[CantWaitToSign]

That is true but back in october when I first joined this site I could ask any question I wanted and people would realize the obvious and explain thoroughly in all their responses and recently noone has responded like that. It's like the unison of this place has gone down hill or something.

[SkilletsUSMC]

Hey!!! Both Of You!!! At Ease!!!:D

[SkilletsUSMC]

Mods please erase.

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

Honestly, skoozi was right. The two jobs are nothing alike and you have to decide what you want to do. To me, it seems like you don't have any idea.

I do know that UAV school is very difficult. When I was about to get out my girlfriend at the time enlisted. She went to UAV school in Arizona and was totally miserable. The material they covered made you think they would be flying F-18s, not remote controled planes. If you don't like physics and math, go with infantry. If you do like physics and math, it could be a fun job for you.

[Motorola07]

Snoozi is right on this... It has to be up to you... Some like the job some dont...

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

Of course, we also think too much. The way I ended up with my job is a long and boring story. The end is that I loved a job that I could not have been forced to sign up for when I was enlisting. It is what you make of it when you get down to it.

[yellowwing]

As a PVT/PFC you ain't gonna be operating the big Predator Drones for the CIA. The little birds at the Company level sound about right. You will be out there at the tip of the spear eating sleeping and fighting with the grunts. Go for it.

[yellowwing]

Small UAV provides eyes in the sky for battalions
By Staff Sgt. Raymond Piper (http://www4.army.mil/ocpa/read.php?story_id_key=6873)

KUWAIT – (Army News Service, Feb. 16, 2005) The Raven could very well be “the little engine that could” of the unmanned aerial vehicle fleet.

Weighing in at four and a half pounds with a five-foot wingspan and stretching a mere 38 inches in length, the Raven is by far one of the smallest vehicles in the Army, but its aerial reconnaissance value has quickly earned the respect of battalion commanders in Iraq and has filled a niche at the battalion level when larger UAVs are unavailable.

“The system is developing the confidence of the leadership,” said Maj. Chris Brown, Kuwait Raven Equipping Detachment officer in charge. “We had one commander's team find an IED (improvised explosive device) on its first mission, and the commander has been sold ever since.”

The Raven flies various missions that aid in force protection. It is flown to search for IEDs, provide reconnaissance for patrols and flies the perimeter of camps.

“When a company or battalion can't get the larger UAV, such as the Hunter, Shadow and Inet, ... the Raven works very well,” said Chief Warrant Officer 3 Steve Schisler, Raven integration and customer service officer.

Schisler explained that the Raven is best employed in conjunction with ground forces. "If you have guys doing a mounted or dismounted patrol in a city or a small town, you can have the Raven flying overhead providing far-sight security.”

He continued, “The patrol can't see past the building 100 meters in front of them, but the Raven can. The Raven can see beyond the building … to where two terrorists with their AK-47s are running to engage the patrol.

The Soldiers can then respond to the intelligence rather than respond to an attack."

The UAV is small and can be transported easily in three small cases that fit into a ruck sack. The crew can bring it with them and operate wherever the patrol goes.

The Raven three different cameras that attach to the nose of the plane, an electrical optical camera that sends data either through a nose camera or a side camera, an infrared camera in the nose, and a side-mounted IR camera.

The IR technology is still too big to fit into the nose section of the plane, Brown said.

The camera does not have a zoom and is unable to lock on a target but provides enough resolution to show someone carrying a weapon.

"You have to select what camera is going to be best for the mission at hand,” Brown said. “For example, if you're flying over a city and there are shadows, the IR camera can penetrate the shadows and show the hotspots.”

He added, "The average Apache pilot would say that the IR on this is better than the Apache, and I would have to agree,"

One of the advantages of the Raven is that it provides real time data that can be recorded to a video camera.

The Raven has about 45 to 60 minutes of flight time on a battery. The kit comes with spare batteries and a charger that plugs into a Humvee so they can land it, pop in a spare battery and get it back in the air.

Schisler’s role with the Raven had him travel throughout Iraq to provide customer service to units who flew the UAV. The longest continuous operation Schisler recalled was for more than 10 hours, where they would land the plane, change batteries and launch the aircraft again.

Where large UAVs need space to taxi and land, the Raven is launched by hand and requires one pilot and a second person to monitor the incoming information.

Brnow said, “The Raven is not MOS specific, but rather the question is who can the unit use?”

One example Brown gave was the food service specialists in Iraq have a smaller role because the food services are contracted to Kellog, Brown and Root.

"One of the best pilots in the 1st Cav. is a cook, but that doesn't mean we don't have ... scouts operating the Raven,” he said. “Some of these kids have been raised with Playstation in their hands and are better able to handle watching a screen and controlling the aircraft.”

A single Raven costs about $35,000 and the total system costs $250,000 but that is a cheap OH-58C, Brown said.

"With this system, we replace a helicopter and crew that's down range and put a system at risk rather than people,” he added

[yellowwing]

Throw-and-go "invisible" UAV
25/04/2007 (http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/digitalcameras/ontheradar/0,39051887,62008231,00.htm)

To see and remain unseen is what military unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) aspire to. In keeping with that goal, Vera Tech Aero has developed the "virtually invisible" Phantom Sentinel.
The aircraft's tripod, boomerang design reportedly relies on the "concept of persistence of vision" for invisibility.

Apparently, the aircraft operates in such a way that it fools the eye/brain motion-detecting apparatus. Because the Phantom's single rotor blade is located outside its fuselage and because it spins in flight it is "virtually undetectable to the human eye", according to Vera Tech.

The UAV can hover and provide a 360-degree picture from a high-speed camera, is GPS compatible and "adverse weather resistant." Best of all, its "throw-and-go" launch option allows you to unass the AO ASAP. It also answers the question of why our boomerang never worked; it was missing a leg and a propeller.

[poolee18]

Infantry

[USMCJohnson]

Infantry
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[TheBiggness]

This goes out to everybody. My question is which would all you pick out of UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle) Operator or Infantry? I've been debating this for a really long time. I'd love to be a UAV Operator but if I don't get that all the other MOS's in that career field are boring as hell. Infantry on the other hand yeah it's the toughest job because you're always going out in the field but it can also be the most fun job. Then again its also the most dangerous MOS so my question again is which would you prefer?

I plan on Infantry.

But you should ask some Marines who have done those 2 MOS's so you get a better idea of what the jobs are like.

[bclark2137]

I am going 0351 Assault Man. The way I see it is this: Would you rather be flying a remote control plane far away from any action? Or would you rather be in the action yourself?

[Justin493]

Cadence.

"He-ey Ar-rmy
Ba-ack packing Ar-my
Put on your packs and follow me
I am Marine Corps Infantry
He-ey Air Force
Lo-ow flying Air Force
Get in your planes and follow me
I am Marine Corps Infantry
He-ey Na-vy
Se-ea sailing Na-vy
Get in your ships and follow me
I am Marine Corps Infantry
He-ey Coast Guard
Pud-dle pirate Coast Guard
Get in your boats and follow me
I am Marine Corps Infantry
He-ey Marine Corps
United States Marine Corps
Pick up your rifles and follow me
I am Marine Corps Infantry"

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