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USMCJohnson
04-19-07, 04:12 PM
Hey this is the MOS that I'm locked in for after boot camp. Does anyone know what they actually DO. I've been told what they are but a name only tells you so much.

davecerami275
04-19-07, 04:31 PM
. FIELD 05, MARINE AIR GROUND TASK FORCE (MAGTF) PLANS


The MAGTF plans OccFld encompasses the management of Time Phased Force Deployment Data (TPFDD) in support of Joint and MAGTF operations plans, and advising Joint and MAGTF staff plans officers on Joint and Marine Corps Force Deployment Planning and Execution (FDP&E) matters in the deliberate, time-sensitive, and crisis planning environments.
This includes identification of force requirements, the refinement of force and movement data for plan execution, deployment, employment, mobilization, sustainment, and redeployment of forces. Formal schooling encompassing FDP&E related doctrine, policy, procedures, MAGTF and joint command relationships.
MAGTF and Joint Operational Planning and Execution Systems (JOPES) will be provided to Marines entering this OccFld. The enlisted personnel in this OccFld provide the technical, automated system, and advisory support to staff plans officers in the areas of force deployment planning and execution, requirements, force resources, plans analysis, report retrieval, force location, phasing data, and electronic conferencing. <SCRIPT>zSB(3,3)</SCRIPT>

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This involves data entry maintenance, and manipulation of force data requirements. The enlisted MAGTF planner assists in initiating force deployment planning, plan validation, and import/export plans between the various force deployment planning tools.


Enlisted plans specialists are assigned to the S-3 at the unit level and the G-3 Plans/G-5 staffs to support the many aspects of force deployment planning and execution. MAGTF planners are to be readily available to support component force, Joint Task Force (JTF), JOPES cells, and Commander-in-Chief (CINC) joint force deployment contingency planning staffs.

mesaRAT488
04-19-07, 04:49 PM
Why would you sign something not knowing what you are going to be doing for 4 years? Or did I miss something?

JesseR

Motorola07
04-19-07, 05:12 PM
Why was this posted so many times?

USMCJohnson
04-19-07, 08:39 PM
I wondered the same thing when I saw all the posts I only purposely posted it once. I knew what the job was and I researed it so I know all the tech terms for what they do. Just needed it to be broken down into "idiot" terms for me. It's kinda like signing up for 0311 and then researching it on the computer. Well you get what they do in words but you really don't know what it's like. I guess that should have been my question. What's that job like? If you have it do you enjoy it?

CJHall0511
05-04-07, 11:38 AM
I was a MAGTF Planner for 8 years and was an Instructor for 3 years at the school house. The reason you probably got that MOS is due to Marine Corps supply and demand. I originally signed up to be a computer guy. Well since the 0511 MOS shares many qualities with the computer related fields, my ASVAB scores were good, I could hold a security clearance, and the Marine Corps was short on, at the time a brand new MOS, they sent me to be an 0511 instead. That process has turned many an 0511 angry at their recruiter due to them not getting what they want. You have to remember, once you sign the dotted line, Uncle Sam decides where he best needs you. Let me know what info you need on the MOS and I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can.

killerinstinct
05-04-07, 11:56 AM
hey cj call this a rumor but are they non deployable?

Marine84
05-04-07, 12:32 PM
hey cj call this a rumor but are they non deployable?

Give me that $h!t stirrer back boy!

killerinstinct
05-04-07, 12:47 PM
Give me that $h!t stirrer back boy!

HAHA im not stirring the pot. its a serious question every magtaf planner i met was non deployabe.

CJHall0511
05-04-07, 02:05 PM
Oh they are definitely deployable. The three years I spent at Camp Pendleton, all the Marines in my office deployed at least once, some twice. Now getting a piece of the action is different. We don't go out on the "get some" missions though I know a few 0511's with combat awards due to them getting into a hot situation while in Iraq. Like the Marine unofficial motto, every Marine is a rifleman, a bullet doesn't care what MOS you have or why you are there. Given the fact there only around 260 0511's, we are limited on duty stations and the amount of deployments. That and so called non-deployable billets would be the only things I can think of why 0511's would say they are non-deployable. Non-deployable billets would be like recruiters and drill instructors. And for the sake of arguements, yes a drill instructor can be sent to Iraq but then he wouldn't be occupying that DI billet, therefore, the DI billet is still non-deployable. Hope this helps.

USMCJohnson
05-06-07, 04:20 PM
I was a MAGTF Planner for 8 years and was an Instructor for 3 years at the school house. The reason you probably got that MOS is due to Marine Corps supply and demand. I originally signed up to be a computer guy. Well since the 0511 MOS shares many qualities with the computer related fields, my ASVAB scores were good, I could hold a security clearance, and the Marine Corps was short on, at the time a brand new MOS, they sent me to be an 0511 instead. That process has turned many an 0511 angry at their recruiter due to them not getting what they want. You have to remember, once you sign the dotted line, Uncle Sam decides where he best needs you. Let me know what info you need on the MOS and I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can.

Finally I have someone who actually was in the job that I'm trying to do. Well I guess I'll just start off with asking what did you like about the job and what didnt' you like about it?

davblay
05-06-07, 08:35 PM
Birthdate: June 17,2007
Ship date: June 18,2007


Damn Johnson, What a Birthday present! Ooo-Rah :thumbup:

CJHall0511
05-07-07, 06:49 AM
Well it really depends on you. Like I said, I joined to be a computer guy and since this MOS deals with you being on a computer of some sort, I didn't mind it. I have many friends, former and...

CJHall0511
05-07-07, 07:03 AM
Forgot to put what I didn't like. That's a tricky one since it varied. Expect to work long hours from time to time. When we plan for operations and deployments, we sometimes are working Monday through Saturday 14-18 hour days. But that's not always so didn't get too wrapped up in it. We're a small MOS so often people know about you before you get to your first duty station. That's not always a bad thing, it's just people like to know who they are getting and how their personality will fit in. There has to be a like minded attitude with your co-workers since you'll be spending all day together and sometimes stuffed in a vault. 0511's tend to roll together too since we spend so much time with each other and often have the same interest. I got out for two reasons and they fit with the dislikes of the MOS. When they initially made the MOS they promoted people very quickly and caused a log jam for future promotions. I got out after 8 years becuase a majority of my friends had been in longer than me and were still Sergeants. It's not always the job that makes the Marine quit. I love the MOS but it wasn't worth it to me to stay in and possibly get promoted in the next 4 years. The other reason I got out was that I had an officer join our section and had no experience in what we do. He later started doing things his way which took longer time and was more painful to say the least. You'll find this no matter where you go but a head's up couldn't hurt. I figured I did my 8 and it was time to hang my boots. Those are the main reasons I didn't like it.

USMCJohnson
05-08-07, 10:23 PM
Birthdate: June 17,2007
Ship date: June 18,2007


Damn Johnson, What a Birthday present! Ooo-Rah :thumbup:
Yeah that's what I said.

CJHall0511: I'm the type of person that would like to deploy A LOT. Does this MOS offer me an opportunity to do that?

CJHall0511
05-09-07, 07:00 AM
Like I said, it really depends on your duty station. Pretty much the only place to deploy is Iraq unless you go to Okinawa or mainland Japan. Our MOS isn't as spread out as other MOS's so our duty stations are mostly in Japan (Okinawa included), Camp Pendleton, and Camp Lejeune. There's also Marine Forces Command (MARFORCOM) in Norfolk, a few spots for lucky individuals in Florida, MOS monitor spots in D.C., and one or two spots in Germany but those are usually for a Sergeant with a buddy hookup. I went to Okinawa out of the schoolhouse and didn't get to go anywhere cool due to me being the junior guy in the office. All my friends went to Austrlia, Korea, Phillipines, etc. That's your best bet on actually going to countries other than Iraq. If you go to a stateside duty station, about the only time you'll get out of your office is to go to planning conferences. Even those are limited since the majority of defense funds are allocated to OIF, there may only be two people from your command going. And if there's a golf course there, you can count on those two spots being filled by your bosses.

I think they did away with the dream sheet at the schoolhouse. We use to let the students pick East Coast, West Coast, or Overseas; that way they could get stationed near home or if they wanted to go overseas, they'd get first come first serve pick. I believe now it's up to our MOS monitor. He's the guy that takes care of filling all the open spots where MAGTF Planner's should be. The schoolhouse submits the names of the class, he fills in the names according to the most needed spot first, then sends it back to the schoolhouse. Stay optimistic on what you get. Your first duty station doesn't have to be your only one. If you don't like it, transfering is a possibility, but that's down the road. Also one thing I need to add. Alot of people believe if you join a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), you'll travel the world. Well that's true if the dictionary defined world as Iraq. Even the 31st MEU, based out of Okinawa, sees time in Iraq. Hope this helps.

adamcake
11-13-08, 03:40 PM
Hey Hall, Just stumbled upon this thread. Long time man! For all you poolee's listen to this guy. He helped teach me everything I know about being an 0511.

CJHall0511
12-04-08, 07:36 AM
Hey Hall, Just stumbled upon this thread. Long time man! For all you poolee's listen to this guy. He helped teach me everything I know about being an 0511.

Hey man, wow, I didn't think any other 05 got on here. Hopefully Johnson got the 0511 MOS and is liking it. If not, it can pay off in the civilian world doing related work. Hope you're doing good Adam.