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killerinstinct
04-16-07, 04:20 PM
Global Warming a Security Risk
Retired Military Leaders Issue Report

By SETH BORENSTEIN
AP
WASHINGTON (April 16) - Global warming poses a "serious threat to America's national security" with terrorism (javascript:;) worsening and the U.S. will likely be dragged into fights over water and other shortages, top retired military leaders warn in a new report.


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Joining calls already made by scientists and environmental activists, the retired U.S. military leaders, including the former Army chief of staff and President Bush (javascript:;) 's former chief Middle East peace negotiator, called on the U.S. government to make major cuts in emissions of gases that cause global warming (javascript:;) .

The report warned that in the next 30 to 40 years there will be wars over water, increased hunger instability from worsening disease and rising sea levels and global warming-induced refugees. "The chaos that results can be an incubator of civil strife, genocide and the growth of terrorism," the 35-page report predicted.

"Climate change exacerbates already unstable situations," former U.S. Army chief of staff Gordon Sullivan told Associated Press Radio. "Everybody needs to start paying attention to what's going on. I don't think this is a particularly hard sell in the Pentagon. ... We're paying attention to what those security implications are."

Gen. Anthony "Tony" Zinni, Bush's former Middle East envoy, said in the report: "It's not hard to make the connection between climate change and instability, or climate change and terrorism."

The report was issued by the Alexandria, Va.-based, national security think-tank The CNA Corporation and was written by six retired admirals and five retired generals. They warned of a future of rampant disease, water shortages and flooding that will make already dicey areas -- such as the Middle East, Asia and Africa -- even worse.


<!-- MOD: info_newscollection - 106966 -->"Weakened and failing governments, with an already thin margin for survival, foster the conditions for internal conflicts, extremism and movement toward increased authoritarianism and radical ideologies," the report said. "The U.S. will be drawn more frequently into these situations."

In a veiled reference to Bush's refusal to join an international treaty to cut greenhouse gas emissions, the report said the U.S. government "must become a more constructive partner" with other nations to fight global warming and cope with its consequences.

The Bush administration has declined mandatory emission cuts in favor of voluntary methods. Other nations have committed to required reductions that kick in within a few years.

"We will pay for this one way or another," wrote Zinni, former commander of U.S. Central Command. "We will pay to reduce greenhouse gas emissions today, and we'll have to take an economic hit of some kind. Or we will pay the price later in military terms. And that will involve human lives. There will be a human toll."

Top climate scientists said the report makes sense and increased national security risk is a legitimate global warming side-effect.

The report is "pretty impressive," but may be too alarmist because it may take longer than 30 years for some of these things to happen, said Stanford scientist Terry Root, a co-author of this month's international scientific report on the effects of global warming on life on Earth.

But the instability will happen sometime, Root agreed.

"We're going to have a war over water," Root said. "There's just not going to be enough water around for us to have for us to need to live with and to provide for the natural environment."

University of Victoria climate scientist Andrew Weaver said the military officers were smart to highlight the issue of refugees who flee unstable areas because of global warming.

"There will be tens of millions of people migrating, where are we going to put them?" Weaver said.

Weaver said that over the past years, scientists, who by nature are cautious, have been attacked by conservative activists when warning about climate change. This shows that it's not a liberal-conservative issue, Weaver said.

killerinstinct
04-16-07, 04:22 PM
and what i think is bout time.. yes we might lose some coastal cities and everything but there are plenty of cities to move to when this does occur and there are lots of cities to this day that use desalinization plants.. VERY expensive but whats my point???

well once all those ****ing countries who dominate the world and push us around namely iran because they know we depend on their oil we can just let them die in a week or we can barter water for oil. HAHA im looking forward to some ocean front property in AZ myself how bout you guys??

ggyoung
04-16-07, 06:54 PM
The bigst war ever and the last war will be over fresh drinking water. Think about it.

10thzodiac
04-16-07, 08:51 PM
Thats why I live next to lake Michigan, but unless I live to be 94 (thirty-years) I won't have to worry about it<CENTER>http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Unhappy/thinking-016.gif</CENTER>

semperfi170
04-16-07, 10:24 PM
The bigst war ever and the last war will be over fresh drinking water. Think about it.

Wars have typically been fought over resources rather than ideals. Basically it is just economics!

drumcorpssnare
04-17-07, 06:58 AM
If, and when our world falls into utter chaos over issues of food and water, then I think we should heed the advice of Gen. Smedley Butler. (Yes 10thz, I finally said it!)
The potential for America to grow all the food it needs is apparent. And 25% of the entire world's fresh water exists in the Great Lakes. So, maybe we form a "Food & Water Coalition" with Canada, who also has the capability to produce tremendous amounts of food.
Then, every time Iran needs a loaf of bread.....it costs them a barrel of oil.
A gallon of water? That's right....another barrel of oil. And when we get to a point where we no longer need their oil, and they are still hungry and thirsty....oh well, "Too bad, so sad. We're really sorry, but you're gonna have to drink your oil."
And that would be the right time to seal our borders...tighter than a gnat's a$$!!! Our military would need to guard our borders with orders to "shoot first, then ask questions."
I hope I never see things that desperate in my lifetime. But, if it gets to that point, I will procure an M-1 Garand and a whole lot of ammo so I can protect my wife, myself, and what is ours.
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

killerinstinct
04-17-07, 08:33 AM
If, and when our world falls into utter chaos over issues of food and water, then I think we should heed the advice of Gen. Smedley Butler. (Yes 10thz, I finally said it!)
The potential for America to grow all the food it needs is apparent. And 25% of the entire world's fresh water exists in the Great Lakes. So, maybe we form a "Food & Water Coalition" with Canada, who also has the capability to produce tremendous amounts of food.
Then, every time Iran needs a loaf of bread.....it costs them a barrel of oil.
A gallon of water? That's right....another barrel of oil. And when we get to a point where we no longer need their oil, and they are still hungry and thirsty....oh well, "Too bad, so sad. We're really sorry, but you're gonna have to drink your oil."
And that would be the right time to seal our borders...tighter than a gnat's a$$!!! Our military would need to guard our borders with orders to "shoot first, then ask questions."
I hope I never see things that desperate in my lifetime. But, if it gets to that point, I will procure an M-1 Garand and a whole lot of ammo so I can protect my wife, myself, and what is ours.
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

well they wont come through Texas thats for sure we're armed......

maverickmarine
04-17-07, 08:47 AM
well they wont come through Texas thats for sure we're armed......


Damn right!

But then again, we are kind of lacking in the fresh water department. We better start squaring the Gulf away. :cool: