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jetdawgg
04-12-07, 09:11 AM
Presidential candidate Ron Paul has warned that the US is now at a crisis point because the people have been so neglectful of protecting their liberties and big government has been so effective in eroding them. He warned that the elite are prepared to concoct events to scare the American people and asserted that the 2008 Presidential election is a contest between the people who care about their freedoms and those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship.


Congressman Ron Paul joined Alex Jones on air this week for a full hour to discuss his ongoing Presidential campaign and give his views on what he believes the fundamental issues are in America today.

The Congressman gave a candid interview in which he discussed many topics in depth including the economy, foreign policy, the North American Union, the possibility of a draft and the situations in Iraq and Iran.

Known for what many have described as his impeccable voting record, Ron Paul is a champion of individual liberty and a strong campaigner for restoration of a true Constitutionalist form of US government, a trait that has made him a rare and popular candidate amongst people from all across the political spectrum.

When asked what he believes the overriding issue in America today is the Congressman pointed towards the erosion of personal freedoms:
"Probably it's the threat to individual liberty. because our government is growing endlessly by leaps and bounds and nobody seems to want to put a hold on it. every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty."

The Congressman explained that freedom is the underlying issue because the consequences of such erosion of individual liberty have a knock on effect in many different areas. Economically, for example, the country is becoming dependent, less productive and less self sustaining.

"Economically the consequences will be that there's going to be a wholesale rejection of the dollar, because the world has trusted the dollar, especially since the breakdown of the Bretton Woods in 1971, when the linkage of the dollar to gold was broken, they still trusted the dollar as if it were gold, and therefore we can print the money and we can spend the money and foreign countries take our money, then loan it back to us, so they're getting a bum rap." Paul stated.

"They get a temporarily good deal but what it does is encourage us not to be productive, it encourages us not to have manufacturing any longer, we can let others do it cheaper, cheap labour, and then we buy it with cheap money. That is going to come to an end. That means later on there are going to be a lot of changes here. Domestically the interest rates are going to rise, the inflation rate, the price of all goods and services, that will rise, and the economy will weaken, so we have some very serious problems ahead."

Turning to foreign policy the Congressman asserted that his first action if he were to be elected as President would be to start to bring American troops home from all over the world.

"As a Commander in chief you could certainly handle the troops around the world. I would start talking to all our allies and tell them what the plans were and start coming home. We are now spending close to a trillion dollars maintaining our foreign policy. It's a lot bigger than most people realise if you add up the Dod, the supplementals, the interest on the money we spend and taking care of our veterans."

The Congressman made it clear that aggression abroad and America as a world police force has had a disastrous impact upon the very fabric of the country.

"We have turned our own country into isolationists, diplomatically we don't talk to anybody, we have more enemies than we've ever had before and fewer allies, and at the same time our ability to defend this country is being diminished on a daily basis. We worry about borders, all around he world, we worry about borders in Korea, about borders around Iraq, and what do we do with our own borders? Here we don't do anything."

Paul then turned to the issue of the North American Union and made it clear that he believes the plans that have been secretly laid in Washington to merge the US, Mexican and Canadian economies are yet again the fallout from the souring of liberty in America.

We have behind the scenes a plan for a North American Union, that's the part that the American people are starting to wake up to, although we have a long way to go to wake up Washington. It's amazing to me how many people outside of Washington are very much aware of the plans with this North American Union, at the same time they are in total denial in Washington, except for the few behind the scenes who are laying the plans and providing the finances."

Turning to discussion of his Presidential campaign, Ron Paul championed the alternative media and the internet as vital tools in allowing him to get his message across to a multitude of people that never could have been reached before without huge injections of money:

"The internet already has been very helpful and I think it's going to be more helpful as time goes on, and that's something that is becoming more so everyday, ten fifteen years ago it wasn't so significant. The other thing is radio talks shows like what you have are very important. Almost every place I go somebody will come up to me and I'll say 'how did you get involved' and it's through your show. So there are a lot of people who have joined our campaign and have already started to show up at our events because of your encouragement."

Paul emphasized that although the bigger candidates can raise millions of dollars through special interests, a lot of that money is wasted on private jets, huge salaries, advisors, advertising and the like. So there isn't as big a gulf between he and the other candidates as people may think.

The Republican Congressman, who has been dubbed "founding father material", by his supporters has surprised some with his initial success, having gained widespread support from Libertarians, Liberals and Conservatives alike.
He stressed that you have to be in the game to have any chance of winning it, and that this not only applies to his own campaign but more importantly applies also to everyone who wishes to remain free in America.

"Time is running out and we may lose our liberties to the point where we won't have these responses." Paul stated.

"You know there's nothing that guarantees that they will allow you to air your radio show forever. They have already trampled on our rights, they talking about putting people in prison today without Habeas Corpus... If we don't preserve our fundamental freedoms we can't fight back.

I'm convinced of one thing, we could all be very very poor tomorrow and have to start from scratch but if we have our freedoms and we have our sound currency and we have the government off our backs, this country would rebound so quickly."

Paul then outlined what he feels that the 2008 Presidential election is all about, and also warned that the elite are prepared to attempt to take the liberty of the people and change the course of history:

"I think they are always prepared and everyday they have more powers than before because under these emergency powers acts, the President now has more authority than ever. And the contest that is really going on in this Presidential election is are there enough of us that care about our freedoms versus those who are willing to succumb to the temptations of dictatorship.

Just think of the attitude, what it was like right after 9/11 when they passed the Patriot Act, I said 'you know it's not even available, you can't even read it and we're getting ready to vote' they said 'it doesn't matter, the people want us to do something, this looks like we're doing something, it sounds good, there's no way I'm even gonna question this', so they voted for it. They got their signals from the people. it is true that there are a lot of people who wanted something done, the big question is are there more of them or more of us?" Paul commented.

in further reference to 9/11 the Congressman stated:
"I think freedom's been sliding for a long time and it got a lot worse after 9/11 and I'm always afraid of some concocted event that will scare the American people.... The people in this country need a little bit more reason to go along with the President, but unfortunately our leaders in this country too often have been able to provide the incident that unifies the country behind more militarism."

We implore our readers to listen to the entire interview here (http://prisonplanet.com/audio/100407paul.mp3) and support Ron Paul's campaign. His voting record speaks for itself and he represents a genuine chance to attempt to put things right in America today.

To support Ron Paul you can visit his website at www.RonPaul2008.com (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/), where you can donate online or find out how to donate via other methods.

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OLE SARG
04-12-07, 10:16 AM
Somebody needs to kick washington in the nuts and get their attention. Even our President has shown a loss of will to fight - I think they call it nutlessness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bush's lack of response to the oil crisis and the border and immigration issues is going to put him ABOUT LAST, RIGHT BESIDE slick willie AS ONE OF THE WORST PRESIDENTS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

jetdawgg
04-12-07, 10:31 AM
"We have turned our own country into isolationists, diplomatically we don't talk to anybody, we have more enemies than we've ever had before and fewer allies, and at the same time our ability to defend this country is being diminished on a daily basis. We worry about borders, all around he world, we worry about borders in Korea, about borders around Iraq, and what do we do with our own borders? Here we don't do anything."

One of the biggest disasters of this administration. How can we not protect our people at home? No seaport/airport/railway protection. The war in Iraq has cost so much we can't protect ourselves.

How can we defend others when we can't defend us here?:usmc:

It is inexcusable

crate78
04-12-07, 11:47 AM
This is scary stuff here.

At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about democracies, going back at least to the Athenian Republic about 300 to 500 B.C.

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Tyler goes on to say, "The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From Bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."

Who can argue that the majority of citizens of the United States are not now scattered from “complacency” across “apathy” to “dependence”?

Let’s examine the phases individually as they apply to the United States.

1. Contrary to some writers, and contrary to popular belief, slavery was not something unique to the Antebellum South in the United States. Slavery was common worldwide even back to Christ’s day. Slaves are referred to routinely in the Bible. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, many people in Europe and elsewhere were in slavery or bondage of some sort. Some free peoples were living a life no better than slaves. In order to cope with their respective situations in life, they drew on spiritual faith.

2. The citizens then found themselves persecuted because of their spiritual faith. Both to escape this persecution, and because of a burning desire to improve their lot, their spiritual faith gave them the courage to act. The American continent was ripe for settlement, so beginning in dribbles and developing into droves, they migrated to America and established new homes, and lives free from religious persecution.

3. The people then found that they were still not out from under the thumb of the King of England, who treated the eastern part of America as an extension of the British Empire. The people who had migrated to America then drew on their courage to fight the Revolutionary War and establish the liberty and constitutional freedoms that we have enjoyed for over 200 years.

4. There followed a period of steady growth and abundance as the United States were settled, with occasional interludes for the Civil War to settle the slavery issue, the Spanish-American War, WWI, the Great Depression, WWII, and on into the latter part of the 20th century.

5. Sometime during the last half of the 20th century, the element of complacency began to set it. With the exception of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, no war had been fought on U.S. soil since the Civil War, and the attack on Pearl Harbor did not occur on the Mainland. As generations of WWII era U.S. citizens passed on and new generations came into being, a complacent mindset developed that since nothing bad had occurred on U.S. soil in their memory, nothing ever would. People questioned why we were fighting in Vietnam when there was no direct threat to the U.S. The Cold War wound down and the USSR ceased to exist. People went into denial over isolated terrorist attacks on U.S. Embassies, the USS Cole, a Marine barracks in Lebanon, and others because they, themselves, hadn’t been personally affected or inconvenienced. September 11, 2001 only jarred people back to reality momentarily. It should have been a wake-up call, but it wasn’t. There is still a mindset permeating Americans that the threat of terrorism is not real, even with evidence of terrorist cells forming within the United States. Regarding the war in Iraq, far too many citizens have the simplistic attitude that if we simply stop fighting and walk away from Iraq, the insurgents will do likewise and cease their activities, even though their religion REQUIRES them to kill all who do not believe as they do. There can be no doubt about complacency. It seems to be the norm, rather than the exception, to ridicule patriotism instead of admiring it.

6. Apathy. To become convinced of an apathetic mindset being rampant in the U.S., all one needs to do is check the percentage of registered or eligible voters who actually bother to vote.

7. Dependency. People are becoming more dependent on "the government" to provide everything they need instead of being independent enough to forge their own lives. Dependency was evident during the Hurricane Katrina disaster when people had become so dependent upon government services that when the government services were interrupted, they simply had no survival skills of their own to fall back on. They simply floundered, irately wondering why someone else wasn’t doing anything for them. The one exception was one gentleman, who, when questioned about his intentions by a TV cameraman, replied, “See that road? I’m going to start walking down it”. There was a time in the U.S. when that response to a crisis would have been the rule rather than the lone exception.

8. Unfortunately, the next step is back into bondage.

So, how do we arrive back in bondage? Simple. As Tyler said, once citizens find out they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury, they will always vote for the candidate who comes though with the most in the way social services and entitlements. And in order to be elected, the various candidates, with very few exceptions, will always compete with their opponents as to who can offer the most largess, instead of legislating what’s best for the country. In fact, very few candidates who have the backbone to stand up for what’s best for the country instead of voting for what the citizens want to hear stand a chance of being elected. This is simply “government by the people”.

There then follows a downward spiral of the country’s economy with social services, entitlements, and pork barrel projects consuming an ever larger amount of the national income until there are not enough funds available to support a strong enough military to defend the country against its enemies, leaving the country vulnerable for takeover by anyone with more willpower and ingenuity than the citizens exhibit. Is this starting to show in Iraq already, with troops being spread too thin, and not equipped as well as they could be?

The onus ultimately rests entirely upon the citizens and electorate. Do they wake up in time, throw all of the self-serving incompetents out of office, and elect candidates with the intestinal fortitude to stand up for what is right for the country? Or do they look the other way until it’s too late? Unfortunately, even if the electorate was willing to vote for them, there exists in the United States at this time a distinct dearth of political candidates who are willing to stand up to our enemies, while being fiscally responsible at the same time. The vast majority of our current crop of politicians look no farther than the next election, while placing their own personal welfare and ambition far ahead of the good of the country.

Freedom is never free! The next few years should be interesting.

crate

yellowwing
04-12-07, 01:17 PM
Did you say Ron Paul or Rue Paul, the big giant cross dresser?

10thzodiac
04-12-07, 02:26 PM
So, I would contend that when Thomas Jefferson said that each generation needed a revolution, it was more likely that he meant that it was needed to weed out the elements of corrupt democracy and return the government to its proper republican form, and I don’t mean Republican party, because most of them are promoting the same, corrupt democratic form of government derided by the founders.

"Men of high learning and abilities are few in every country; and
by taking in those who are not so, the able part of the body have
their hands tied by the unable." --Thomas Jefferson to Archibald
Stewart, 1791.

jetdawgg
04-12-07, 03:51 PM
That is a very powerful statement there Marine.

How true it is also.