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thedrifter
04-05-07, 02:04 PM
From the Navy Cross awarded to Danny Dietz:

...Operating in the middle of an enemy-controlled area, in extremely rugged terrain, his Special Reconnaissance element was tasked with locating a high-level Anti-Coalition Militia leader, in support of a follow-on direct action mission to disrupt enemy activity. On 28 June 2005, the element was spotted by Anti-Coalition Militia sympathizers, who immediately revealed their position to the militia fighters. As a result, the element directly encountered the enemy. Demonstrating exceptional resolve and fully understanding the gravity of the situation and his responsibility to his teammates, Petty Officer Dietz fought valiantly against the numerically superior and positionally advantaged enemy force. Remaining behind in a hailstorm of enemy fire, Petty Officer Dietz was wounded by enemy fire. Despite his injuries, he bravely fought on, valiantly defending his teammates and himself in a harrowing gunfight, until he was mortally wounded. By his undaunted courage in the face of heavy enemy fire, and absolute devotion to his teammates, Petty Officer Dietz will long be remembered for the role he played in the Global War on Terrorism...


denver & the west
Parents protest military statue
Parents oppose image, location of memorial
By Joey Bunch and Carlos Illescas
Denver Post Staff Writers
The Denver Post
Article Launched:04/05/2007 01:00:00 AM MDT

A group of Littleton parents is opposing the design and location of a memorial to a fallen local Navy SEAL, Danny Dietz, who died in combat in Afghanistan two years ago.

They say the statue, depicting Dietz clutching an automatic rifle, glorifies violence. In Berry Park, it would be within blocks of three schools and two playgrounds.

"I don't think young children should be exposed to that in that way - unsupervised by their parents or any adults," said Emily Cassidy, one of the mothers.

The parents have circulated fliers opposing the design and location of the statue at the southeast corner of South Lowell Boulevard and West Berry Avenue, in a triangle formed by Goddard Middle School, Community School for the Gifted and Centennial Elementary School.

They sent a letter to school board members, nearby residents, members of parent-teacher organizations and others to protest "the statue's particular location."

Linda Cuesta, the parent of a child who was at Columbine High School during the deadly April 1999 shootings, said that memory "colors everything in my life," but she is sympathetic to the Dietz family.

"As much as it breaks my heart to do this, we have to weigh the effect of the statue in this particular place against the family's feelings," she said.

"Who wins here? It's a tough situation."

Dietz's father said the family is devastated by the uproar.

"It broke our hearts," said Dan Dietz, who still lives in the area. "My son was fighting for her freedom to do exactly what she is doing. She put my son in the same category as Columbine. How does she have the audacity to do that?"

On June 28, 2005, Dietz and three other Navy SEALs were ambushed by al-Qaeda guerrillas. Dietz, 25, severely wounded, fought off attackers for more than 45 minutes, allowing one of his team members to escape.

Dietz received the Navy Cross, the Navy's second-highest medal.

"The people who have never served in the armed forces are always the ones who speak the loudest against what the armed forces have done," said Allan Stone of the Pat Hannon VFW Post No. 4666 in Littleton, which helped raise nearly $42,000 for the sculpture.

Cassidy said the opposition is in no way meant to offend the family or denigrate Dietz's service.

"We have absolutely no issue with the family, and we have only good feelings for the soldier and what he did for this country," Cassidy said.

Kelli Narde, spokeswoman for the city of Littleton, said complaints about the statue are arriving "at the eleventh hour," too late to change the statue, which has already been cast.

"We're proceeding with the plan," she said.

"This opposition has come as a complete surprise; it's been such a public process."

Narde said Cuesta is the only person to formally approach the council about relocating the statue. It will be unveiled in Berry Park on July 4, the second anniversary of the recovery of Dietz's body on a mountainside in Afghanistan.

Cassidy and Cuesta said the memorial was no secret, but the parents opposing it had no idea the rifle would be a focal point.

And while war memorials nationwide include rifles, swords, cannons and battleships, "trends are changing," said Cuesta, who has advocated on behalf of stronger gun laws.

Sculptor Robert Henderson of Caņon City said Dietz is holding the rifle in a "parade-rest" position on one knee, somewhere between "at attention and at ease."

He hopes schoolchildren could use it in their studies, in discussing war.

"Every piece that I make, somebody is not going to like it," Henderson said. "Most of the people do, but you can't satisfy everybody."

Staff writer Diane Carman contributed to this report.

Staff writer Joey Bunch can be reached at 303-954-1174 or jbunch@denverpost.com.


I'll include an email that is being sent to Littleton residents in hopes of stopping the memorial from happening. There will also be contact information for the city manager.

Now, here's the protesting parent's email. Notice the contact information at the end of their complaint? If you are a resident of the Littleton area, consider sending a message of support to the city manager.

Neighbors-



It has come to our attention that the southeast corner of Lowell and Berry (which is open-space land owned by the Left Bank Condominiums) is the proposed location for a memorial statue honoring a young Navy Seal. While our hearts go out to the family of this brave young man, we have serious concerns regarding the graphic and violent detail the statue portrays. As a community, we cannot allow the many young children in this area to be exposed to a larger than life-size grenade launching machine gun.



The City of Littleton is responsible for considering both location as well as audience when placing public art. This statue's proposed location is within a three-block radius of two elementary schools, a middle school and two parks, each with a playground. Clearly, the design of this sculpture was for an audience other than young children.



In light of our community's experience with the Columbine tragedy, and the clear message of non-violence that we teach in Littleton schools, what is our city thinking?



The statue's dedication is currently scheduled for July, if you share our concerns regarding its placement in this particular location, please contact Littleton City Manager Jim Woods at 303-795-3720 or email him at jwoods@littletongov.org.

Ellie

drumcorpssnare
04-05-07, 02:57 PM
There's a beautiful bronze sculpture of a WW I soldier not far from the center of town in Syracuse. This soldier holds an '03 Springfield. When I see it, I don't think of violence. I'm reminded of the sacrifices our young boys made in "the Great War". There's another statue a mile away to commemorate Syracuse's veterans of the Spanish-American War. This soldier holds a 30-40 Krag. It doesn't remind me of blood, and death. I think of American's willingness to "answer the call".
These mamby-pamby cry babies in Colorado need to suck it up. They need to remember Valley Forge, Gettysburg, Kettle Hill and Soisson. Tarawa and Normandy. Chosin and Hue City. Kabul and Baghdad.

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

Ed Palmer
04-05-07, 04:28 PM
WHAT those Idiots aren't going to teach anything about the revolutionary war or the civil war in those schools?
what are they going to teach things like little red ridding hood and the three pigs and
that war doesn't exist?

crate78
04-05-07, 08:26 PM
Maybe I'm behind times. Has anyone else heard of a "grenade launching machine gun"?

crate

SkilletsUSMC
04-05-07, 08:33 PM
It must be an M4 with a M203, but yeah to awnser the question.....

A Mk-19 grenade launching machine gun ;)

http://www.hk94.com/images/mk19-iraq.jpg

10thzodiac
04-05-07, 09:42 PM
Where I live we have a Veterans Park district. 99 % of the parks are named for locals who paid the ultimate sacrifice. Most of the parks have war memorabilia, howitzer's, tanks and my local park two "Dusters". They had a WW I artillery piece before.

My park is within one block of an elementary school and two blocks of another. The Park was donated to the Village by a American-German farmer who lost his son in a WW II bomber raid over Germany. The park is named after his boy.

Not even the Veterans Park District officials know anything about who the park is named after. The long time building custodian doesn't even know whose military picture is hanging outside his office, just knows it has been there a long time.

I guess WW II is about as old as WW I now.

When I die, probably no one around here will know or care about this story anymore. I know the story because I knew his brother.

I wouldn't be surprised someday they rename the park.

When they dedicated the new "Dusters" out front they had a reserve Marine Color Guard do the flag waving. These guys would of never cut the mustard in the Marine Corps I knew.

The ceremony was a good opportunity for the vanity of the living, all the local yahoos came with their big bad "T" shirts but sadly nobody knew the story of who the park was named for. I remember one young wannabe in civvies up front and center with the dignitaries acting like he was Gods gift to be there. The ceremony probably went to his head and ran out and joined the National Guard right after.

To get a park named after your kid here, you have to donate the land and let the tax-payers pay the maintenance. Money talks, bull-sh1t walks.

The last park was named after a slicked sleeved soldier whose grandfather was very well connected.

SkilletsUSMC
04-05-07, 09:59 PM
It must be an M4 with a M203, but yeah to awnser the question.....

A Mk-19 grenade launching machine gun ;)

http://www.hk94.com/images/mk19-iraq.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/mk-19-dvic559.jpg

hmckinley
04-06-07, 06:21 AM
I have been quiet for a few day's, but has everyone in the USofA been reminded by Naional Geographic of this Sunday night's coverage of the columbine shooting? Dang right, thousand's to million's of kids have heard and seen the little girl crying and saying," they was killing everyone around me". National Geographic planting it in everyone's mind "the worst school shooting in history". We have just as many sic-o kid's looking and a thinking, hell I can break that record.

Their names smeared all over the world by the new's media, with their contributation to what ever the little punk's mind's are up too. Now the sailor that has the memorial built in his memory and our way of life. Has his name made all the paper's and the national geographic chanel?

Let all the kid's graduating out of school wanting to be the duty bad ass, enlist in a branch of the military and help defend our way of life that give's these few mom's the right to get out and run their suck. I don't blame the parent's of this sailor, splash waves as high as needed to get this memorial planted in his honor, he sure went out splashing them higher than these few will. (GET ER DONE) Semper Fi

thedrifter
04-06-07, 09:22 AM
Mothers: Military memorial glorifies violence
Columbine about 2 miles away
The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Apr 6, 2007 8:23:16 EDT

LITTLETON, Colo. — A military memorial located near three schools and two playgrounds should be relocated because the design showing a Navy SEAL clutching an automatic rifle glorifies violence, according to a group of parents pushing for change.

“I don't think young children should be exposed to that in that way — unsupervised by their parents or any adults,'' said Emily Cassidy, one of the mothers.

The group objects to the memorial's location near a middle school, a school for the gifted and an elementary school. Columbine High School, where a teacher and 14 students, including the two gunmen, died in 1999, is about 2 miles away.

Community leaders raised $42,000 for the sculpture honoring Danny Dietz, who received the Navy Cross, the Navy's second-highest medal, after his death in Afghanistan.

Officials told Dietz's family that on June 28, 2005, Dietz and three other Navy SEALs were ambushed by al-Qaida guerrillas. Dietz, 25, severely wounded, fought off attackers for more than 45 minutes, allowing one of his team members to escape.

“I don't believe it promotes violence. It's an American hero who gave his life for all of us,'' Cindy Dietz, Danny Dietz's mother, told Denver station KDVR-TV on April 5.

Littleton City Manager Jim Woods said they are moving forward as planned.

“Based on the public feedback we've had, I think most of the citizens of Littleton feel like it's an appropriate selection,'' he said.

The sculpture is expected to be unveiled on July 4.

Ellie

thedrifter
04-06-07, 04:07 PM
denver & the west
Line drawn in park over statue
"No middle ground" in battle over look, location of memorial
By Joey Bunch
Denver Post Staff Writer
The Denver Post
Article Launched:04/06/2007 01:00:00 AM MDT

Littleton - With its green lawn, jungle gym and picnic gazebo, Berry Park is an unlikely battlefield, but the local flap over the statue of a fallen war hero set to be placed here brewed into a national conflict Thursday.

The Internet, talk radio and cable news spread the word of some parents' concerns about the planned bronze sculpture of Navy SEAL Danny Dietz holding his automatic rifle.

"There's no middle ground here, and that's unfortunate," said Emily Cassidy, one of a handful of Littleton parents who say the statue with the gun should not be near three schools and two playgrounds at the southeast corner of South Lowell Boulevard and West Berry Avenue.

"We're continuing to try to spread our message," Cassidy said. "The message is not against Danny Dietz, his family or the war. It's location, location and the audience that will view it."

Reached at home Thursday in Virginia Beach, Va., Patsy Dietz, Dietz's widow, said she sympathizes with the message that guns and schools shouldn't mix, especially in the community where the Columbine shootings took place.

But to use her husband to forge such a political statement about guns is irresponsible, she said.

"It's a parent's job, including these parents who are protesting, to teach their children the difference between two thugs who murder their classmates and a soldier who died fighting for their freedom," she said. "Danny represents every soldier and sailor who has fallen, and for them to take this stand, well, that's offensive to me."

Patsy Dietz found out about the opposition via an e-mail forwarded by Janice Caulfield, the parent-teacher association president at Centennial Academy of Fine Arts Education.

Caulfield had received the e-mail, which solicited opposition the statue.

"They were barking up the wrong tree," said Caulfield, the daughter of a 24-year Navy man and the cousin of a Navy SEAL who served with Danny Dietz.

Caulfield said she could not speak for the PTA, but in her opinion admiring a local war hero is good for children.

"I'll be proud to take my children there, and I'll be glad to show them a hero who died fighting for them and how we live our lives in freedom," she said.

The statue of the Heritage High School graduate is being cast at a foundry in Loveland. Sculptor Robert Henderson of Caņon City based it on the last photo taken of Dietz, showing him in a crouched position and holding the rifle on one knee.

It is scheduled to be unveiled at the park July 4, the second anniversary of the discovery of his body on a mountainside in Afghanistan. Dietz died June 28, 2005, fighting off dozens of al-Qaeda guerrillas. He posthumously received the Navy Cross for heroism.

The opposition to a war memorial is unprecedented in Jim Carrier's experience He is a national board member for both the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund and the Navy SEAL Warrior Fund, foundations that help the families of those who die in service to the country.

"They are missing the point," Carrier said. "It takes guns to defend our freedoms against terrorists when they are trying to kill you and your children."

But those who side with Cassidy see a different depiction.

"A statue of a soldier holding a child would send a better message," said Calvin Freehling, a Vietnam veteran from Indianola, Neb., who e-mailed The Denver Post. "An automatic weapon doesn't signify protection. It signifies violence. I'm 64 years old now, and I'm tired of violence."

Ann Levy of Denver, who calls herself a "peacenik," would like to see Dietz's sacrifice honored in a different way.

"They should be putting up a peace dove instead," she said. "The question is do we stand for peace or do we stand for war?"

Staff writer Joey Bunch can be reached at 303-954-1174 or jbunch@denverpost.com.

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2007/0405/20070405__20070406_A12_CD06DIETZ2~p1.JPG

Caņon City sculptor Robert Henderson based his clay form of Navy SEAL Danny Dietz on the last photo taken of him. (Courtesy Tracy Harmon)

Ellie

10thzodiac
04-06-07, 06:56 PM
"A statue of a soldier holding a child would send a better message," said Calvin Freehling, a Vietnam veteran from Indianola, Neb., who e-mailed The Denver Post. "An automatic weapon doesn't signify protection. It signifies violence. I'm 64 years old now, and I'm tired of violence."

Two things:

1) I do not promote violence or show my medals or military pictures to my 2 children and 5 grandchildren. My son, after a devil-pup experience in army boot when he was 10 decided on his own he didn't want to go into the military. The daughter was considering it and I dissuaded her.

2) When I was at the VA Monday I was talking to a former Army 101st AB paratrooper about Iraq, he told me that he told his boy to stay in school.

USMCmailman
04-06-07, 07:15 PM
Soon our schools will be teaching Socialism, and the Ho Che minh doctrine as well as removing ALL weapons from civilians so that only Big Brother will have them!--------sounds like 1984 George Orwel. And No One will do a thing! :sick: :thumbdown

I see another Civil War coming!!!!!!!!!!!!

10thzodiac
04-06-07, 09:05 PM
Like Archie Bunker said, give everybody on airplanes a gun, there won't be anymore hijackings !

semperfi170
04-06-07, 11:26 PM
Them da*n hippies taught their children well and they are continuing the tradition!! I suppose they would rather see his uniform decorated with doves, flowers, and the footprint of the american chicken (or as some know it, the anti-christ symbol of the broken cross).

yellowwing
04-07-07, 12:11 AM
I can see Littleton still being 'sensitive' on gun violence. Your kids getting killed has that affect.

It would be better if they had education showing the difference between psychopaths and our Nation's Warriors.

Sgt Leprechaun
04-08-07, 06:23 PM
Littleton....obvious the air up there makes people not only retarded, but also blind and stupid.

Isn't "Columbine" in Littleton, Co? I think these hairbags need to police their own backyard before they go being stupid with this.

More and more, I seriously wonder if the vast majority of the "amurkan people" are worth defending.....and more and more, the answer is "No"

capmarine
04-08-07, 06:28 PM
my CAP platoon(and Big Al's) had on loan the first 40mm grenade launcher.it had a 12 round cannister that put those things in air by just pulling the trigger,cool!!this thing sat on a tripod;i think it was out of a helicopter,but that could be way off base.