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thedrifter
03-10-07, 07:55 AM
Free Walter Reed
The wounded deserve more than political recrimination.

Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:01 a.m. EST

The reports of poor conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center have set off a political firestorm. It remains to be seen whether the system that created the problem is capable of fixing it.

The Walter Reed facility is located inside the District of Columbia. While the press reports have been dramatic, it strains credulity to think these problems are suddenly news to Congress and all its staff, the executive branch, the Pentagon (across the Potomac), the rest of the Washington press divisions or servicemen and their families.

So now Congress is holding hearings, the White House is setting up an independent commission and Vice President Dick Cheney has pledged "there will be no excuses, only action." Arguably "only action" is a federal-government oxymoron. The action so far has consisted of firings and recrimination. If this continues, the incentive for anyone in government to think innovatively about Walter Reed will fail.

Not surprisingly, the story beneath the Walter Reed mess is a morass. It is government, in its inevitable sprawl, working at cross purposes with itself. For starters, Walter Reed is scheduled to shut down in 2011 as part of the base-closure commission process. No surprise that resources going into Walter Reed would not rise under this circumstance.

Meanwhile, President Bush has proposed spending $38.7 billion on military health care in the coming year--double what the military spent in 2001. Over the past six years the military has expanded health coverage for reservists and for military families and has added a more generous prescription drug benefit.

What has happened is that for more than a decade military health care has shifted away from long hospital stays in favor of increased outpatient care, mirroring the private-sector trend. The military and the entirely separate Department of Veterans Affairs--which itself spends tens of billions of dollars on health care--have shuttered large in-patient facilities and opened hundreds of outpatient clinics.

By and large this has been for the good. The military in fact is a pace-setter in medical procedures to treat the severely injured; it drives advances in prosthetic limbs, trauma care and reconstructive surgery. Approximately 98% of those wounded on the battlefield who reach a hospital survive. Consider the following comparison: The ratio of those wounded to killed today is seven to one; in Vietnam that ratio was closer to three to one. And the VA is excelling at outpatient care. The Rand Corporation recently found that on nearly every measure of quality of care--preventive services, follow-ups, chronic care--VA patients receive better care than most civilians.

But the problems are real and significant. The military provides health care to more than nine million people. The VA runs the largest unified health-care program in the country to cover an additional five million people. It's predictable that patients will get lost inside a government system this vast. In recent weeks veterans from the Korean and Vietnam wars have stepped forward to tell their own stories of fighting the health-care bureaucracy.

More than three million people eligible for cheap prescription drugs through the VA are opting instead to pay a little extra for Medicare drug coverage. Why? Because, as a Manhattan Institute study recently found, only 22% of the most important drugs released in recent years are covered by the VA.

These manifest problems will now tread water while we await the president's commission, Congress's hearings and on into the darkness. We have some shorter-term ideas to get help where it's needed.

For starters, free the patients captive inside this system. Congress should give these wounded soldiers vouchers to pay for out-patient care anywhere in America they wish--near home and family, at innumerable state-of-the-art rehab facilities, at specialized care institutions. Army word-of-mouth would quickly transmit data on best care, location, cost and family support. The professionals and staff in these places would move heaven and earth to help the service men and women.

To make this work, give a primary role to nonprofit foundations. The Fisher House program of comfort homes for families is perhaps the most famous. There are others more than willing to help.

Certainly the government needs to right its own battered programs. But in the meantime, let the American people--the world's greatest reservoir of medical, financial and volunteer skills--at last get involved helping those who've been fighting on our behalf in Iraq and in the war on terror.

Ellie

mrob7781
03-10-07, 09:38 AM
I agree wholeheartedly with thedrifter on this issue. alot can be done right now!.In my opinion the goverment is reacting entirely to slow. as I have stated in a other forum,WE can help by E-mailing your state representative & congress on OUR discontent/outraged of the treatment the injured/wounded U.S. soldiers are recieving past and present. WE as past and present marines can put on alot of pressure to this bureaucratic red tape and push the govt.to a quicker resolve to this issue. SO STAND UP MARINES AND SOUND OFF!! FORCE IN NUMBERS! SEMPER FI

OLE SARG
03-10-07, 09:42 AM
Makes me wonder with our politicians in D.C. and all their committees and oversite agendas, how in the hell did these lardasses overlook the VA????? These lazy bastards again prove the only thing they are interested in is THEIR OWN AGENDA which INCLUDES "WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All these pseudo-intellectual pieces of **** need to be in the unemployed line!!!!!!! I see red when these ****heads come out now and blame anybody but themselves for the Walter Reed incident.
I wonder HOW MANY LETTERS THEY RECEIVED AND THEY DIDN'T DO A DAMN THING about the conditions in the VA Hospitals and Clinics.
Blowhard mother****ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

SEMPER FI,

mrob7781
03-10-07, 10:00 AM
I concur OLE SARGE!!!!!!!!. I personally will continue to e-mail and spread the word of my OUTRAGE AND DISCONTENT on this issue until something is DONE!. one thing these low life politicians understand are votes and contributions and WE should let them just that......SEMPER FI

thedrifter
03-10-07, 10:08 AM
COLUMN: Where is the outrage over veterans’ conditions? <br />
By Thomas Beilein <br />
Niagara Gazette <br />
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I have watched the events of this past week, concerning the medical treatment being afforded our wounded...

mrob7781
03-10-07, 10:33 AM
I have forgotten one important tool that WE all have at our disposal to get the word out that thedrifter has reminded of, it's the media[ABC,NBC,CBS,FOX news], the politicians use it constantly. WE as americans/marines/soldiers past and present should use it also as our sword,rest assured I WILL NOT STOP till this issue is resolved. THEY EARNED IT and DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SEMPER FI

ggyoung
03-10-07, 11:01 AM
The worst part of VA treatment is getting into the damn system(sp) All the red tape, all the forms to fill out and then you have fill again. Being turned down time after time, the years of waiting to hear anything. There hope is that you die before you are in the system. It's cheaper that way. Once you are in then things start to change for the better. I know people that had to fight 8-10 years to get anything. When you file you had best be prepared for a long fight.

Challenger72
03-10-07, 07:23 PM
These are the same people that think they can do a better job for us if they establish a national health care system. They can't run a few VA hospitals how the He** do they think they can run all the hospitals in the US. Don't get me wrong, I believe the Doctors in the VA system are some of the best in the country. TO MUCH Politicts not enough health care.

thedrifter
03-11-07, 07:54 AM
Averting another Walter Reed
By Jack Fuller
a former editor and publisher of the Chicago Tribune

March 11, 2007

I wonder if any veteran was surprised to learn that soldiers wounded in Iraq were put up in miserable quarters at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and treated with bureaucratic callousness.

Appalled and furious, yes. But surprised?

Anyone who has been a tiny cog in the great military machine has encountered levels of human indifference so profound that the only way to keep from exploding is to laugh. Think of Joseph Heller's furious humor in "Catch-22."

Eventually most soldiers come to realize that the very nature of the military enterprise requires that it put its mission beyond the reach of the needs of individuals.

Clint Eastwood depicted the tragic nature of this moment of recognition in his recent film "Flags of Our Fathers." In one early scene a group of mostly green Marines is on the way to Iwo Jima in a vast convoy of hundreds of ships steaming one after another through dangerous waters. One of the men tumbles overboard. The rest go to the railings and shout wisecracks until they realize that their ship will not slow down to rescue him, nor will any other.

Another essential aspect of a military enterprise is that the only way it can tame the chaos inherent in its mission is through elaborate procedures--in short, through virulent bureaucracy. Think of the Post Office with heavy weapons.

Unfortunately but unsurprisingly, the nature of the military's relationship to individuals does not change fundamentally once a soldier is wounded, injured or sick. I have a vivid memory from the late 1960s of a World War II vintage hospital ward at Ft. Bragg full of GIs with high fevers during a meningitis outbreak. Admitted in the middle of the night, I woke up at dawn to the sound of a non-commissioned officer barking us all out of bed to wash and polish the floors.

I think of this, by the way, every time the government toys with reforming civilian health care.

Though there are always a few martinets who will take selfish, even sadistic advantage of their control of the instruments of bureaucracy, the issue is not one of bad people. The American military is full of extraordinary men and women: leaders who would sacrifice themselves for the sake of their troops, caregivers who stare down death to save the life of a wounded soldier under fire, doctors and nurses as skilled and compassionate as any alive.

But the very size and nature of the system in which they work makes inevitable the kind of failures described in the Washington Post expose that sent Republicans and Democrats in a headlong rush to improve the situation for wounded Iraq War veterans.

Thank goodness for the Post and the politicians. Wounded soldiers deserve the best, even if it means fighting the whole weight of military inertia to give it to them.

I believe that the politicians who have leaped on this matter were genuinely disgusted by the decrepit, rodent-infested conditions at Walter Reed in the nation's capital. But there are other motives in play as well, and the moment was ripe.

As Democrats attack President Bush's failures in Iraq, he strikes back by saying they are undermining the soldiers risking their lives for the country. The Walter Reed scandal gave Democrats a perfect opportunity. Nothing they say about this failure can be thrown back into their faces. It is one mess the administration cannot defend by demanding that their critics support our troops.

But in an upside-down way, the scandal also offered the administration an opportunity. It got to take decisive action. The commander of Walter Reed lost his command. The secretary of the Army resigned. Maybe the Bush administration can't fix Iraq, but it probably can fix buildings. Those decrepit facilities will probably soon be looking like the Ritz.

This scandal has gained such momentum because it provides everybody a surrogate for the harder question of what to do in the war that is producing the casualties.

A similar thing happened when the Bush administration failed to respond properly to Hurricane Katrina. It touched off deep public anxiety about the government's ability to deal with another terrorist attack on the homeland. If the administration can't see a hurricane coming from hundreds of miles away and cope with it, how well would it do against ruthless, unpredictable enemies?

The trouble with surrogate issues is that solving them doesn't get at the real problem. Sometimes, as in New Orleans, even the surrogate problems don't get solved. But sometimes the political attention can at least do some good.

So let's hope the political intensity about military medical care doesn't dissipate but widens. Let's hope New York Sen. Charles Schumer isn't alone in asking, "f it is this bad at the outpatient facilities at Walter Reed, how is it in the rest of the country?"

And while they are at it, the politicians might want to look at the veterans hospitals serving wounded men and women who have already left the service. Like the military medical system, the VA hospitals are part of an enormous government bureaucracy that can behave in inhuman ways that nobody really wants.

In the end, the only thing that keeps bureaucracies in check is politics. And that means politicians howling in outrage, giving voice to the cogs in the machine, until somebody listens and makes the system work for human beings.

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Jack Fuller, a former editor and publisher of the Chicago Tribune, served in the U.S. A

Ellie

thedrifter
03-11-07, 08:52 AM
Accepted inequities Enlisted shouldn't be shocked by Walter Reed revelations

By HENRY ALLEN
, The Washington Post
Sunday, March 11, 2007

I'd guess that most veterans were as angry as I was on learning that combat-maimed soldiers have been warehoused and forgotten among roaches, rodents and mold at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

I'd also guess they weren't entirely surprised. That's because most veterans are enlisted. So was every one of the maltreated Building 18 soldiers and Marines quoted in The Post's revelations of the Walter Reed mess. When you're enlisted you get used to being treated certain ways by certain officers. Every outfit has them.

A little more than 80 percent of the military is enlisted. The enlisted are the privates, corporals, specialists, airmen, seamen and sergeants who have to salute and say "sir" to an elite called officers: lieutenants, commanders, captains, majors, colonels, generals and admirals. The officers wear the white collars, the enlisted wear blue. The two classes live on different sides of the tracks.

So a lot of veterans may well have accepted the neglect of their fellow enlisted at Walter Reed. They may even have shrugged off news that one patient had to show a Purple Heart to prove that he had served in Iraq when he asked for a uniform to replace the one he left behind on a bloody stretcher. They might not be surprised to learn of superiors chewing out Purple Heart recipients for showing up at their medal presentations in gym clothes after the military failed to provide them with uniforms. As veterans know, officers and even some senior enlisted will yell at you for things like that.

The government is investigating. It investigated the systematic atrocities at Abu Ghraib, too, and the only soldiers prosecuted were enlisted. Early on in the Walter Reed scandal, Army Secretary Francis Harvey blamed negligence on the enlisted, saying: "We had some NCOs who weren't doing their job, period." So it's hard for a lot of veterans to expect that an investigation will ask about the possibility that a simple truth came into play: Officers running the hospital may have ignored the squalor their troops were living in because they believed from long experience that they could.

It turns out that this is one of the rare times they couldn't.

They've stirred up outrage so huge that Harvey and the commanding general of Walter Reed have been fired. Not prosecuted, but fired.

I've always justified the privileges given to officers on the grounds of their greater education, leadership responsibility, management skills and executive potential. I also know the dangers of fraternization -- it's hard for officers to be taken seriously if they drink, play cards and shower with people who must instantly obey their orders whether they like them or not.

Hence the careful separation of various levels of rank, both enlisted and officer. This calibrated meting out of privilege also serves to remind all ranks of their status in the military hierarchy. It keeps you in your place. Segregation is everywhere: bathrooms, dining rooms, social clubs, sleeping quarters.

When you're enlisted, you accept these inequities. They make sense. You also have no choice. But you can't ignore the ugly, feudal arrogance that they foster. Power does tend to corrupt.

It's like what Sheriff Bat Masterson is quoted as saying about the rich and the poor: Everybody gets the same amount of ice -- the rich get theirs in the summer and the poor get theirs in the winter. As an enlisted Marine in the Vietnam era, I heard a second lieutenant in his early 20s bark "C'mere, boy" at a sergeant major in his 40s, a man who had served in two wars. I saw an officer solve a shipboard plumbing problem by ordering enlisted men to pick up feces with their bare hands.

What the command structure at Walter Reed may have forgotten is that an enlisted soldier with his legs blown off is no less or more privileged than any other human being with his legs blown off. Isn't this obvious? The enlisted warriors feel no less pain and despair than the officers. They deserve no less in the way of clean quarters, opportunities for recuperation and prompt processing of their orders.

Is it possible that officers, too, were living with roaches and mold somewhere else at Walter Reed before newspaper stories prompted a sudden splashing of fresh paint on the enlisted's Building 18? That they, too, were stuck in endless bureaucratic limbos? More than a week after the story broke, I have seen three officer victims mentioned from around the country. I suspect there are more.

I'm sorry. Why would this former enlisted man wish such suffering on anyone, even an officer? But why would any officer permit such suffering to happen to anyone, even an enlisted man?

EDITOR'S NOTE: The author is a writer and editor for The Washington Post's Style section.

Ellie

mrob7781
03-12-07, 01:01 AM
thank you Ellie for posting these articles for this thread. the more I read the more P***ed off /OUTRAGED I get, It's giving me alot of motivation to keep pounding this issue to any and all that may or can help resolve these injustices to OUR injured soldiers... THANKS AGAIN SEMPER FI