Anti-War Rally in Washington D.C. on March 17th

[fontman]

Anti-War Rally in Washington D.C. on March 17th

Passing on the below provided by Major Bill "JungleRat" Donahue...

You may have heard about the upcoming Anti-war rally/protest that will occur on Saturday, March 17, 2007 in D.C.

From what I've been able to gather, there exists the real possibility that these bastards are planning on defacing the Vietnam War Memorial ("The Wall") and other Veterans Memorials.

It is my belief that Patriots (silent majority?) need to counter this attempt by moving to the forefront and confront any such effort, peacefully I hope.

Therefore, I'm proposing an effort to do just that. I don't know of any other effort along these lines that may be in the works so if you know of any, please advise me?

If you are serious about being an active participant in this counter-insurgency at home, let me know via email with "Operation Yorktown: Count Me In" in the subject line please.

Time is short to organize this properly. I envision the following to be done as quickly as possible;

1. Establish a "Command & Control" center
2. Identify and organize "Quick Reaction Platoons" as well as the Platoon Leaders (might need this to move quickly from one memorial to another as events unfold)
3. Establish communications methodologies and equipments (such as FRS hand helds)
4. Identify an encampment area for a 2-3 day duration
5. Logistics: This is a big one. We will need close coordination and quick work on this one.

And more...

What say you? Respond only if you can actively and willingly get involved. And please pass this along.

I am willing to use our website as a central "information" medium although we don't want to "tip our hand" to the "enemy".

It's past the time for true Patriots to get involved beyond mere words typed on a keyboard. I'm ready to act but one man, alone, won't have any impact.

Herbert W. "Bill" Donahue Jr.
Major USMC (Ret) 1960-1989
President, United American Patriots
www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org
junglerat@triad.rr.com

[thedrifter]

A road trip I can see is in our future..

Ellie

[fontman]

A road trip I can see is in our future..

EllieYou betcha, Love!

;)

[bigdog43701]

fontman...didn't i hear President BUSH say something like that at the dedication of the Museum of the Marine Corps?

[fontman]

fontman...didn't i hear President BUSH say something like that at the dedication of the Museum of the Marine Corps?We weren't there. What was it that you heard the POTUS say?

[Roulette]

Is this the same St. Patrick's day protest that Jane Fonda is rumored to be supporting?

[bigdog43701]

FONTMAN...QUOTE OF pRESIDENT bush AT THE DEDICATION

"tHERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THE mARINES. tHE mARINES THEMSELVES, AND THOSE THAT FOOLISHLY GO UP AGAINST THEM."

[bigdog43701]

sorry/\...didn't realize caps lock was on.

[Bozooka]

Anti-War Rally in Washington D.C. on March 17th

Passing on the below provided by Major Bill "JungleRat" Donahue...

You may have heard about the upcoming Anti-war rally/protest that will occur on Saturday, March 17, 2007 in D.C.

From what I've been able to gather, there exists the real possibility that these bastards are planning on defacing the Vietnam War Memorial ("The Wall") and other Veterans Memorials.

It is my belief that Patriots (silent majority?) need to counter this attempt by moving to the forefront and confront any such effort, peacefully I hope.

Therefore, I'm proposing an effort to do just that. I don't know of any other effort along these lines that may be in the works so if you know of any, please advise me?

If you are serious about being an active participant in this counter-insurgency at home, let me know via email with "Operation Yorktown: Count Me In" in the subject line please.

Time is short to organize this properly. I envision the following to be done as quickly as possible;

1. Establish a "Command & Control" center
2. Identify and organize "Quick Reaction Platoons" as well as the Platoon Leaders (might need this to move quickly from one memorial to another as events unfold)
3. Establish communications methodologies and equipments (such as FRS hand helds)
4. Identify an encampment area for a 2-3 day duration
5. Logistics: This is a big one. We will need close coordination and quick work on this one.

And more...

What say you? Respond only if you can actively and willingly get involved. And please pass this along.

I am willing to use our website as a central "information" medium although we don't want to "tip our hand" to the "enemy".

It's past the time for true Patriots to get involved beyond mere words typed on a keyboard. I'm ready to act but one man, alone, won't have any impact.

Herbert W. "Bill" Donahue Jr.
Major USMC (Ret) 1960-1989
President, United American Patriots
www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org (http://www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org)
junglerat@triad.rr.com


These are some of the Communist affiliated with the protest..

Some of the organizations and individuals that are affiliated with TONC include:
Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General
Brenda Stokely, Million Worker March
Charles Barron, NY City Council Member*
Chuck Turner, Boston City Council Member*
Steve Gillis, President USWA Local 8751*
Leslie Feinberg, Co-Chair LGBT Caucus National Writers Union*
Million Workers March Movement
International Action Center
NY Committee to Defend Palestine
New Jersey Solidarity-- Activists for the Liberation of Palestine
Harlem Tenants Council
Alberto Lovera Bolivarian Circle
BAYAN USA
Korea Truth Commission
Artists & Activists United for Peace
NYCHRP – NY Committee for Human Rights in the Philippines
NYC Labor Against the War
Queers for Peace & Justice
Fanmi Lavalas
Committee to Support the Iraqi People
Jersey City Peace Movement
No War Westchester
Action Center for Justice
Al-Awda Palestine Right to Return Coalition NY-NJ
All Peoples Congress
American-Iranian Friendship Committee
Arab American Civic Organization
Asia Pacific Action
Association of Mexican American Workers
Central New Jersey Coalition for Peace and Justice
Citizens for Peace, Cobb County
FIST – Fight Imperialism, Stand Together
Haiti Support Network
International Concerned Family and Friends of Mumia Abu Jamal
High County Peace & Justice
Louisiana Activist Network
Louisville Peace Action Community
MLK Bolivarian Circle
Metro Justice, Rochester
Michigan Emergency Committee Against War and Injustice
Minneapolis Anti-War Committee
Movement in Motion Arts Collective
New College Alliance for Peace
New England Human Rights Organization for Haiti
New School Human Rights Group
NISPOP– Network in Solidarity with the People of the Philippines
No Draft No Way Network
Northeast Ohio Antiwar Coalition
NY Committee to Free the Five
Olean Area Coalition for Peace & Justice
People Judge Bush
Peoples Video Network
Progressive Action for the Common Good
Richmond Action Center
Somerville 5 Defense Committee
South Jersey Coalition for Peace & Justice
South Mississippi United for Peace
Stonewall Warriors
United American Indians of New England
Virginia Anti-War Network
Women's Fightback Network

The link to there site is..

http://www.troopsoutnow.org/

[10thzodiac]

Hmmm, I wonder what side Jesus would be on and why ?

Pro-war vs Anti-war

Christians need only reply http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif

[Bozooka]

Hmmm, I wonder what side Jesus would be on and why ?

Pro-war vs Anti-war

Christians need only reply http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif

10thz It would depend on what side YOU Think the people we are fighting are good or evil!;)

[10thzodiac]

10thz It would depend on what side YOU Think the people we are fighting are good or evil!;)

Islamic fighters believe in Jesus and even Moses too !

So did the Germans and the Italians (who had the pope on their side !)

Your hypothesis is moot !

WTF -over

S/F

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[Bozooka]

Islamic fighters believe in Jesus and even Moses too !

So did the Germans and the Italians (who had the pope on their side !)

Your hypothesis is moot !

WTF -over

S/F

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/22.gif

10thz.. You need to read my answerer! I said YOU not Islamic fighters or Germans.. So what is the answerer from YOU? So I guess your reply is moot!:p

[10thzodiac]

10thz.. You need to read my answerer! I said YOU not Islamic fighters or Germans.. So what is the answerer from YOU? So I guess your reply is moot!:p

I'd be with Jesus on this one http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif hope that isn't too moot, just a little Christian http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: COMMUNIST FAGGOT'S DON'T PRAY TOO THE ALMIGHTY;THEY JUST PREY ON THE WEAK!!! WHO WERE THE GOOD SOUL'S,THAT WERE MURDERED;IN THE TWIN TOWER'S ON 911 PRAYING TOO??? SURE THE 'FUC WASN'T SATAN!!!:evilgrin: :iwo:

[Bozooka]

COMMUNIST FAGGOT'S DON'T PRAY TOO THE ALMIGHTY;THEY JUST PREY ON THE WEAK!!! WHO WERE THE GOOD SOUL'S,THAT WERE MURDERED;IN THE TWIN TOWER'S ON 911 PRAYING TOO??? SURE THE 'FUC WASN'T SATAN!!!:evilgrin: :iwo:

You got that one right ....Let them feel hell, drop some napalm on em..:D

[10thzodiac]

[snippets]

"No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours."

"I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy."

"In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors."

"And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children."

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: THEY GOT 'F**KED TOO,BUT WHEN HELL;WAS RAINING DOWN ON THOSE POOR BASTARD'S!THEY WERE PRAYING ALSO!!!:evilgrin: :iwo: S/F

[DWG]

So the islamists have sown the wind; let them reap the whirlwind! Napalm is much under used today.

[drumcorpssnare]

[snippets]

"No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours."

"I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy."

"In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors."

"And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children."

10thz- Isn't this a quote by your good buddy, Osama bin Towelhead? When he talks of towers in Lebanon being destroyed by Americans...was that because those Islamic extremeists were such nice, law-abiding citizens? Or did we destroy those towers because those radical fundamentalists were a bunch of murdering scum, who killed thousands of innocent civilians...in the name of Allah? Hmmmm...
As for what would Jesus do? He has the luxury of being able to clearly see the future, something you and I can't do. His foresight into the catastrophic deaths potentially perpetrated by the ruthless terrorist cowards, I think, would influence Him to get on the radio and call in some napalm strikes on those worthless freakin' maniacs!!!:banana:

Have a nice day.
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[thedrifter]

I'm trying to understand WHY the topic has been changed....

This topic is about gathering folks to show OUR Support against the Anti- WAR folks...

Other Marine sites so far have folks going so why not us...

Get back on the TOPIC FOLKS!;)

Ellie

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: THE COMMUNIST FAGGOT'S I WAS REFERRING TOO,WAS THE LIST;OF ALL THE SOCIALIST & COMMUNIST WHO WHERE PROMOTING THIS RALLY!!! :usmc: THEY ARE TREADING ON HALLOWED GROUND!!!S/F:usmc:

[Bozooka]

<TABLE class=contentpaneopen cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=contentheading width="100%">January 27th March in DC </TD><TD align=right>http://campusantiwar.net/images/M_images/printButton.png (http://javascript<b></b>:void window.open('http://campusantiwar.net/index2.php?option=content&task=view&id=172&pop=1&page=0', 'win2', 'status=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=yes,titlebar=no,m enubar=no,resizable=yes,width=640,height=480,direc tories=no,location=no');)</TD><TD align=right>http://campusantiwar.net/images/M_images/emailButton.png (http://javascript<b></b>:void window.open('http://campusantiwar.net/index2.php?option=content&task=emailform&id=172', 'win2', 'status=no,toolbar=no,scrollbars=no,titlebar=no,me nubar=no,resizable=yes,width=400,height=200,direct ories=no,location=no');)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=contentpaneopen cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left width="70%"></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top colSpan=2>Tuesday, 12 December 2006
CAN endorses January 27th March on Washington D.C: start organizing now!
On January 27th people form every corner the United States will converge in Washington D.C to demand an end to the war and occupation in Iraq. The Campus Anti-war Network (CAN) calls on all members, allies, and supporters to organize in full force for this critical mobilization.
This past November the American electorate delivered a clear message to our government, Bring the Troops Home Now! However democracy not not be delivered by the ballot box alone, it requires your active participation, sacrifice, and organizing. We must have a critical mass of people to deliver a loud mandate to the new our new congress, they now hold the purse strings, they control the funding and the power to end this war.
We call on you to ORGANIZE ORGANIZE ORGANIZE!!!
Charter Buses, Trains, Vans, Carpools
Buses are already coming from: Iowa, Wisconsin, New York, and New Jersey
Do whatever it takes to get you and as many others out to D.C!
CAN will be organizing both a contingent for the march as well as a CAN-wide meeting to take place after the march. The meeting will began immediately after the march and will include: Coordinating Committee elections, proposals, and presentations.
More information about the CAN Meeting and CAN contingent for the march will be coming soon, there will soon be more information on West Coast efforts as well.



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We need to stop this bull **** it's NAM all over again..
Here is another link to them commie f--ucks..

http://www.campusantiwar.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=172&Itemid=34

[10thzodiac]

I agree, it is Vietnam all over again !

And we should stop it.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: LET ALL THE CHAPTER'S,OF THE EAST COAST;"HELL'S ANGEL'S" GET THE INVITE TO THIS!!!THOSE BOY'S LOVE TOO HAVE FUN!!! UNITED STATES MOTORCYCLE CLUB-OOOHRAH!!!!!:scared: :iwo:

[Bozooka]

I agree, it is Vietnam all over again !

And we should stop it.

:devious: Stop the protest Now!!

We don't need the commie protesters making Iraq another Viet-Nam. The far left commies want to do this to embarrass bush. BUT they will hurt the troops more then anything..

[jinelson]

So lets can - CAN!

[10thzodiac]

Before you go read this

• As originally reported in the The Sunday Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html), May 1, 2005

SECRET AND STRICTLY PERSONAL - UK EYES ONLY

DAVID MANNING

From: Matthew Rycroft
Date: 23 July 2002
S 195 /02

cc: Defence Secretary, Foreign Secretary, Attorney-General, Sir Richard Wilson, John Scarlett, Francis Richards, CDS, C, Jonathan Powell, Sally Morgan, Alastair Campbell

IRAQ: PRIME MINISTER'S MEETING, 23 JULY

Copy addressees and you met the Prime Minister on 23 July to discuss Iraq.
This record is extremely sensitive. No further copies should be made. It should be shown only to those with a genuine need to know its contents.

John Scarlett summarised the intelligence and latest JIC assessment. Saddam's regime was tough and based on extreme fear. The only way to overthrow it was likely to be by massive military action. Saddam was worried and expected an attack, probably by air and land, but he was not convinced that it would be immediate or overwhelming. His regime expected their neighbours to line up with the US. Saddam knew that regular army morale was poor. Real support for Saddam among the public was probably narrowly based.

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

CDS said that military planners would brief CENTCOM on 1-2 August, Rumsfeld on 3 August and Bush on 4 August.

The two broad US options were:

(a) Generated Start. A slow build-up of 250,000 US troops, a short (72 hour) air campaign, then a move up to Baghdad from the south. Lead time of 90 days (30 days preparation plus 60 days deployment to Kuwait).

(b) Running Start. Use forces already in theatre (3 x 6,000), continuous air campaign, initiated by an Iraqi casus belli. Total lead time of 60 days with the air campaign beginning even earlier. A hazardous option.

The US saw the UK (and Kuwait) as essential, with basing in Diego Garcia and Cyprus critical for either option. Turkey and other Gulf states were also important, but less vital. The three main options for UK involvement were:

(i) Basing in Diego Garcia and Cyprus, plus three SF squadrons.

(ii) As above, with maritime and air assets in addition.

(iii) As above, plus a land contribution of up to 40,000, perhaps with a discrete role in Northern Iraq entering from Turkey, tying down two Iraqi divisions.

The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun "spikes of activity" to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.

The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbours, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran. We should work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam to allow back in the UN weapons inspectors. This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force.

The Attorney-General said that the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action. There were three possible legal bases: self-defence, humanitarian intervention, or UNSC authorisation. The first and second could not be the base in this case. Relying on UNSCR 1205 of three years ago would be difficult. The situation might of course change.

The Prime Minister said that it would make a big difference politically and legally if Saddam refused to allow in the UN inspectors. Regime change and WMD were linked in the sense that it was the regime that was producing the WMD. There were different strategies for dealing with Libya and Iran. If the political context were right, people would support regime change. The two key issues were whether the military plan worked and whether we had the political strategy to give the military plan the space to work.

On the first, CDS said that we did not know yet if the US battleplan was workable. The military were continuing to ask lots of questions.

For instance, what were the consequences, if Saddam used WMD on day one, or if Baghdad did not collapse and urban warfighting began? You said that Saddam could also use his WMD on Kuwait. Or on Israel, added the Defence Secretary.

The Foreign Secretary thought the US would not go ahead with a military plan unless convinced that it was a winning strategy. On this, US and UK interests converged. But on the political strategy, there could be US/UK differences. Despite US resistance, we should explore discreetly the ultimatum. Saddam would continue to play hard-ball with the UN.

John Scarlett assessed that Saddam would allow the inspectors back in only when he thought the threat of military action was real.

The Defence Secretary said that if the Prime Minister wanted UK military involvement, he would need to decide this early. He cautioned that many in the US did not think it worth going down the ultimatum route. It would be important for the Prime Minister to set out the political context to Bush.

Conclusions:

(a) We should work on the assumption that the UK would take part in any military action. But we needed a fuller picture of US planning before we could take any firm decisions. CDS should tell the US military that we were considering a range of options.

(b) The Prime Minister would revert on the question of whether funds could be spent in preparation for this operation.

(c) CDS would send the Prime Minister full details of the proposed military campaign and possible UK contributions by the end of the week.

(d) The Foreign Secretary would send the Prime Minister the background on the UN inspectors, and discreetly work up the ultimatum to Saddam.
He would also send the Prime Minister advice on the positions of countries in the region especially Turkey, and of the key EU member states.

(e) John Scarlett would send the Prime Minister a full intelligence update.

(f) We must not ignore the legal issues: the Attorney-General would consider legal advice with FCO/MOD legal advisers.

(I have written separately to commission this follow-up work.)

MATTHEW RYCROFT

(Rycroft was a Downing Street foreign policy aide)

[end text - emphasis added]

The Downing Street "Memo" is actually the minutes of a meeting, transcribed during a gathering many of the British Prime Minister's senior ministers on July 23, 2002. Published by The Sunday Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html) on May 1, 2005 this document was the first hard evidence from within the UK or US governments that exposed the truth about how the Iraq war began.
Since that time, much more information (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/memos.html#otherdocs) has come to light through leaks of secret government documents and the accounts of an increasing number of people who have witnessed the administration’s wrongdoing firsthand.
There is now in the public record (http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/timelinehome.html) a large body of evidence that vividly illustrates:

Bush’s long-standing intent (http://downingstreetmemo.com/archive/2004-10-31-HoustonChron-Herskowitz/) to invade Iraq
Bush’s willingness to provoke Saddam (http://www.newstatesman.com/200505300013) (in a variety of ways) into providing a pretext for war
The fact that the war effectively began (http://www.newstatesman.com/200505300013) with an air campaign nearly a year before the March 2003 invasion and months before Congressional approval for the use of force
The administration’s widespread effort to crush dissent (http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/special_packages/iraq/intelligence/12995512.htm) and manipulate information (http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/special_packages/iraq/intelligence/11901380.htm) that would counter its justification for war
The lack of planning (http://www.*************/NewsContent/0,13319,FL_plan_111804,00.html) for the war’s aftermath and a fundamental lack of understanding (http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031124fa_fact1) of the Iraqi societyFrom cherry-picked intelligence to a non-existent plan to win the peace; from no-bid contracts for reconstruction to character assassination for anyone who dares to question the premises of the war—the Bush administration has perpetrated what is by any measure one of the most egregious foreign policy misstep in our history.

A majority of the American people now believes that the president intentionally misled our nation into war, and nearly half say he should be impeached if that assertion can be proven. The only question that remains is: will he and his administration be held accountable?

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com/index.html

10thz http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/22.gif

[Bozooka]

10thz- Isn't this a quote by your good buddy, Osama bin Towelhead? When he talks of towers in Lebanon being destroyed by Americans...was that because those Islamic extremeists were such nice, law-abiding citizens? Or did we destroy those towers because those radical fundamentalists were a bunch of murdering scum, who killed thousands of innocent civilians...in the name of Allah? Hmmmm...
As for what would Jesus do? He has the luxury of being able to clearly see the future, something you and I can't do. His foresight into the catastrophic deaths potentially perpetrated by the ruthless terrorist cowards, I think, would influence Him to get on the radio and call in some napalm strikes on those worthless freakin' maniacs!!!

Have a nice day.
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

Chalk another one up for the drum..:D
"Do you smell that?
Do you smell that?
Napalm son, I love the smell of Napalm in the morning{"..:evilgrin:

[003XXMarineDAD]

The locaL LEFTIST PUKES are going to have thier rally on the 17th of March in Ft. Collins Colorado so We will be up there to **** on their parade. We done it three years running and they still do'nt like us. To bad I do'nt have any love for them either.
Last three years we have led their parade with big signs that warn the pulbic of the coming lefist parade and for people not to feed them. We also have signs showing the democrat seal of the sore loserman crowd that they are. We will have a bullhorn to chant the sure fire cut & run lies they love to spout off on.
One thing about countering these protest is it take all of the media away from them and it chaps their arses to have that done to them.
:D

[003XXMarineDAD]

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[Bozooka]

:evilgrin: The way to fight these commies that protest is to send an e-mail or a snail mail letter to all the local news channels in your area stating that you are a vet and you are tired of what the anti-American groups are doing. If you air the protests that they run I will no longer patronize your radio or TV station. .. The protesters feed on the news coverage they get. The news loves to air them but they do not do the same for the anti protesters. The anti protesters of the protesters get little or no coverage. We do not need our troops to be treated like the Viet-Nam vets were..That is what's starting to happen. It is DE Ja Vue for me........Nam vet 69-70

[10thzodiac]

:evilgrin: The way to fight these commies that protest is to send an e-mail or a snail mail letter to all the local news channels in your area stating that you are a vet and you are tired of what the anti-American groups are doing. If you air the protests that they run I will no longer patronize your radio or TV station. .. The protesters feed on the news coverage they get. The news loves to air them but they do not do the same for the anti protesters. The anti protesters of the protesters get little or no coverage. We do not need our troops to be treated like the Viet-Nam vets were..That is what's starting to happen. It is DE Ja Vue for me........Nam vet 69-70

Brilliant, good luck...

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[HardJedi]

Hmmm, I wonder what side Jesus would be on and why ?

Pro-war vs Anti-war

Christians need only reply http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif

sorry to get back off topic, but I just HAD too!
as for Jesus? not sure who's side he'd be on, but here are some rules for warfare from the bible.


10.AFTER CONQUERING A CITY, IF YOU FIND A DECENT LOOKING WOMAN UNDER ONE OF THOSE BEE KEEPER OUTFITS, MAKE HER YOUR SLAVE.
“And when the Lord thy God hath delivered [a city] into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself” (Deuteronomy 20:13-14).
“And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. . . . And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods” (Numbers 31:7-9).


9.THOUGH INCONVENIENT, WHEN KILLING THE PEOPLE, BE SURE TO NOT TO HURT THEIR TREES (‘CAUSE THAT WOULD BE WASTEFUL).
“When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayeth eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man’s life) to employ them in the siege” (Deuteronomy 20:19).

8.DON’T STOP WITH KILLING THEIR SOLDIERS. RUB IT IN. DIP YOUR FEET IN THEIR BLOOD AND LET YOUR DOGS DRINK IT.
“But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses. The Lord said, I will bring again from Bashan, I will bring my people again from the depths of the sea: That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same” (Psalms 68:21-23).

7.DON’T ANONYMOUSLY KILL BIN LADEN AND OMAR IN A BOMBING RAID. AFTER KILLING THEIR FOLLOWERS, PUBLICLY HANG THEM FOR ALL TO SEE.

“For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. . . . And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day. And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide” (Joshua 8:26-29).

6.GIVE THEM A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE. CUT OFF THEIR HANDS AND FEET BEFORE HANGING THEM.
“And David commanded his young men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged them up over the pool in Hebron” (2 Samuel 4:12).

5.NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH THE ENEMY. KILL THEM, SHOWING NO MERCY AT ALL.
“And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them” (Deuteronomy 7:2).

4.DON’T BE A SISSY. HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR THESE NON-BELIEVERS. KILL THEM WHILE THEY’RE PRAYING IN CHURCH. KILL YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE, AND EVEN THOSE TOO FEEBLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
“But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy. Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand” (2 Chronicles 36:16-17).


3.DON’T JUST KILL THE HEATHENS. STEAL THEIR PROPERTY AND GIVE IT TO THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION.
“And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the Lord”(Joshua 6:24).

2.DON’T WASTE MONEY ON P.O.W. CAMPS. THROW YOUR CAPTIVES OFF A CLIFF.
“And Amaziah said to the man of God, But what shall we do for the hundred talents which I have given to the army of Israel? And the man of God answered, The Lord is able to give thee much more than this. . . . And Amaziah strengthened himself . . . and smote the children of Seir ten thousand. And other ten thousand left alive did the children of Judah carry away captive, and brought them unto the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they all were broken in pieces” (2 Chronicles 25:9-12).

1.JUST REMEMBER THIS SIMPLE RULE: KILL EVERYTHING THAT BREATHES AND DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT.
“But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth” (Deuteronomy 20:16). “Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city [of nonbelievers] with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword” (1 Samuel 13:15).
“And that day Joshua took Makkedah, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof he utterly destroyed, them, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain: and he did to the king of Makkedah as he did unto the king of Jerico. Then Joshua passed from Makkedah, and all Israel with him, unto Libnah, and fought against Libnah: And the Lord delivered it also, and the king thereof, into the hand of Israel: and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it” (Joshua 10:29-30).

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass” (1 Samuel 15:3).



:scared:

[drumcorpssnare]

Sounds to me like the Damnocrats need to spend a little more time reading the Old Testament! Good stuff there.

As for the worthless anti-war protesters...there's still time to gather up scores of 5-gal. buckets of spit to throw on these whiney cry babies. Then the vets can yell, "How do YOU like it?"

(But...it would probably just be a waste of good spit!)
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[Bozooka]

Here is a worthless one called Hanoi Jane She got out her Ho Chi Min sandals and dusted them off. Now she intends to walk all over our Iraq troops and vets!
http://www.bozooka.com/images/hanoijane.jpg

She even looks like a commie!!

[drumcorpssnare]

Just thirty minutes. That's all I'd need. Me. Jane. A sound-proof room. An acetylene blowtorch. And thirty minutes.

Thank-you,
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[Bozooka]

Jane Fonda applauding an NVA anti-aircraft gun crew. These guns were used to shoot down American planes and contributed to the deaths of American Airmen.

http://www.bozooka.com/images/fonda1.jpg

Jane Fonda said
On November 21, 1970 she told a University of Michigan audience of some two thousand students, "If you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would some day become communist." At Duke University in North Carolina she repeated what she had said in Michigan, adding "I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism. " Washington Times July 7, 2000

[Troy Allegood]

1st Sgt Allegood reporting for duty! Show me where to check in at, what I may do to help. You have spoken what I have been thinking for months. It is time to stand up and stop being the silient Majority! I am ready

[Bozooka]

Just thirty minutes. That's all I'd need. Me. Jane. A sound-proof room. An acetylene blowtorch. And thirty minutes.

Thank-you,
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

Drum why sound-prof room? I would want her screams to be heard world wide.. She's nothing but a Traitor C-unt.. That suc--ed Ho Chi Min's balls off.:devious:

[drumcorpssnare]

No, I'll stay with the sound-proofing, thanks. I'm sure while I'm busy cutting her arms and legs off with the torch, she'd be rambling about her leftist socialist values, etc., and who wants to listen to more of that $hit!!
:banana:
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[DWG]

No, I'll stay with the sound-proofing, thanks. I'm sure while I'm busy cutting her arms and legs off with the torch, she'd be rambling about her leftist socialist values, etc., and who wants to listen to more of that $hit!!
:banana:
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

C'mon, admit it! You got a little crush on janie, don't ya?;)

[Bozooka]

http://www.bozooka.com/images/hollywood2.jpg
http://www.bozooka.com/images/moron.jpg

NUFF SAID

[bootlace15]

We fought for their rights,so they will keep coming back. There is still alot of time before March 13th arrives.

bootlace15 out

[DWG]

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http://www.bozooka.com/images/moron.jpg

NUFF SAID
Where do you find these things? They're great!

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: WHILE YOU'R AT IT,FIRING JANE'S AZZ UP!GET A'HOLD OF SEAN PENN'S COMMIE CANDY AZZ, AND CUT HIS PRICK OFF; STUFF IT IN HIS MOUTH!THEN CUT HIS FRIGGING HEAD OFF AND PUT IT ON A STAKE!!!:devious: :thumbdown

[Bozooka]

http://www.bozooka.com/images/hollywood2.jpg
http://www.bozooka.com/images/moron.jpg

NUFF SAID

D W They would make perfect protest signs against the protesters. :D

[DWG]

WHILE YOU'R AT IT,FIRING JANE'S AZZ UP!GET A'HOLD OF SEAN PENN'S COMMIE CANDY AZZ, AND CUT HIS PRICK OFF; STUFF IT IN HIS MOUTH!THEN CUT HIS FRIGGING HEAD OFF AND PUT IT ON A STAKE!!!

Don't hold it in, FF; How do you REALLY feel?
:banana: :D :thumbup:

[DWG]

D W They would make perfect protest signs against the protesters. :D

ABSOLUTELY!!!:thumbup:

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: I FEEL LIKE SNAPPING, THEIR FRIGGING NECK:evilgrin:

[Bozooka]

:evilgrin: WHILE YOU'R AT IT,FIRING JANE'S AZZ UP!GET A'HOLD OF SEAN PENN'S COMMIE CANDY AZZ, AND CUT HIS PRICK OFF; STUFF IT IN HIS MOUTH!THEN CUT HIS FRIGGING HEAD OFF AND PUT IT ON A STAKE!!! :thumbdown

You asked for it you got it.. Check this link out.
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=110



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[10thzodiac]

sorry to get back off topic, but I just HAD too!
as for Jesus? not sure who's side he'd be on, but here are some rules for warfare from the bible.


10.AFTER CONQUERING A CITY, IF YOU FIND A DECENT LOOKING WOMAN UNDER ONE OF THOSE BEE KEEPER OUTFITS, MAKE HER YOUR SLAVE.
“And when the Lord thy God hath delivered [a city] into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself” (Deuteronomy 20:13-14).
“And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. . . . And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods” (Numbers 31:7-9).


9.THOUGH INCONVENIENT, WHEN KILLING THE PEOPLE, BE SURE TO NOT TO HURT THEIR TREES (‘CAUSE THAT WOULD BE WASTEFUL).
“When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayeth eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man’s life) to employ them in the siege” (Deuteronomy 20:19).

8.DON’T STOP WITH KILLING THEIR SOLDIERS. RUB IT IN. DIP YOUR FEET IN THEIR BLOOD AND LET YOUR DOGS DRINK IT.
“But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses. The Lord said, I will bring again from Bashan, I will bring my people again from the depths of the sea: That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same” (Psalms 68:21-23).

7.DON’T ANONYMOUSLY KILL BIN LADEN AND OMAR IN A BOMBING RAID. AFTER KILLING THEIR FOLLOWERS, PUBLICLY HANG THEM FOR ALL TO SEE.

“For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. . . . And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day. And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide” (Joshua 8:26-29).

6.GIVE THEM A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE. CUT OFF THEIR HANDS AND FEET BEFORE HANGING THEM.
“And David commanded his young men, and they slew them, and cut off their hands and their feet, and hanged them up over the pool in Hebron” (2 Samuel 4:12).

5.NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH THE ENEMY. KILL THEM, SHOWING NO MERCY AT ALL.
“And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them” (Deuteronomy 7:2).

4.DON’T BE A SISSY. HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR THESE NON-BELIEVERS. KILL THEM WHILE THEY’RE PRAYING IN CHURCH. KILL YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE, AND EVEN THOSE TOO FEEBLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
“But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy. Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand” (2 Chronicles 36:16-17).


3.DON’T JUST KILL THE HEATHENS. STEAL THEIR PROPERTY AND GIVE IT TO THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION.
“And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the Lord”(Joshua 6:24).

2.DON’T WASTE MONEY ON P.O.W. CAMPS. THROW YOUR CAPTIVES OFF A CLIFF.
“And Amaziah said to the man of God, But what shall we do for the hundred talents which I have given to the army of Israel? And the man of God answered, The Lord is able to give thee much more than this. . . . And Amaziah strengthened himself . . . and smote the children of Seir ten thousand. And other ten thousand left alive did the children of Judah carry away captive, and brought them unto the top of the rock, and cast them down from the top of the rock, that they all were broken in pieces” (2 Chronicles 25:9-12).

1.JUST REMEMBER THIS SIMPLE RULE: KILL EVERYTHING THAT BREATHES AND DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT.
“But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth” (Deuteronomy 20:16). “Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city [of nonbelievers] with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword” (1 Samuel 13:15).
“And that day Joshua took Makkedah, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and the king thereof he utterly destroyed, them, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain: and he did to the king of Makkedah as he did unto the king of Jerico. Then Joshua passed from Makkedah, and all Israel with him, unto Libnah, and fought against Libnah: And the Lord delivered it also, and the king thereof, into the hand of Israel: and he smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that were therein; he let none remain in it” (Joshua 10:29-30).

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass” (1 Samuel 15:3).



After reading your select passages, I'm sure glad that we're Christians and not a bunch of blood thirsty ****** heathen's http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Like I said your children and grandchildren are/will be blessed having you as an example http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif

Is there anymore like you at home ?

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[DWG]

All selections were Old Testament (Pre Christian). We have also had a reformation-the muslims haven't and reject it out of hand. We did have a dark age, but we got over it. The muj revel in their dark age and worship death. Let us assist our heathen brothers to attain that to which they aspire! Napalm for everybody!!
:beer: :D

[Bozooka]

10thz This ones just for you and your buddy Smedly Butler! Old Smedly Loved War Before he was against it..UUumm sound familiar don't it.:evilgrin:

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The Maginot Line was a line of concrete and steel defences that stretched between Luxembourg and Switzerland along France's border with Germany (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Germany.htm). The defensive system had originally been proposed by Joseph Joffre (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/FWWjoffre.htm) and was built between 1930 and 1935. It had three interdependent fortified belts with anti-tank (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWantitank.htm) emplacements and pillboxes standing in front of bombproof artillery casements. Named after Andre Maginot, the French war minister at the time, it cost 7,000 million francs to build and was claimed at the time to provide an impregnable defence against the German Army (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWgermanA.htm).
However, when Adolf Hitler (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler.htm) ordered the Western Offensive (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWwesternO.htm) in the spring of 1940, the German armed forces invaded France through the heavily wooded and semi-mountainous area of the Ardennes, an area, north of the Maginot Line. The French military had wrongly believed that the Ardennes was impassable to tanks. Seven panzer (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWpanzer.htm) divisions led by Heinz Guderian (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERguderian.htm) and Erwin Rommel (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERrommel.htm) reached the Meuse River at Dinant on 12th May and the following day the French government was forced to abandon Paris.

[10thzodiac]

Are we not the most militarily powerful country in the world ? Do we have 6,700 bases around the world in a 130 separate countries ?

If Juan or Usama want to enter the country illegally do you think they would have any trouble doing so ?

Is it worth our soldiers lives [3,111] and our treasure [$364,743,507,063] in supporting Bush's war against Iraq who was not threatening its neighbors, and whose WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran ?

Smedleys message may be dated, but still valid !

"Let's build up a national defense so tight that even a rat couldn't crawl through! War for any other reason is simply a racket." Major General Smedley D. Butler USMC

Just think, not even a rat could crawl through: NO 9/11 !

Does anybody think maybe their time would be better spent demanding that our boarders be made "Rat Proof", instead of creaming in their jeans confronting each other in DC, March, 17th ?

SF

10thz http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/22.gif

[HardJedi]

All selections were Old Testament (Pre Christian). We have also had a reformation-the muslims haven't and reject it out of hand. We did have a dark age, but we got over it. The muj revel in their dark age and worship death. Let us assist our heathen brothers to attain that to which they aspire! Napalm for everybody!!
:beer: :D


AHH! so you, like MOST people, have the DELUSION that the old testament is not part of the christian religion? Then why include it? Becaus without it there would BE no christianity.

and as to your point about muslims worshipping death? lets see WHICH version of god is more violent, shall we?

3. Whose god orders the cruelest ?

“So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates” (Koran 47:4).

“And when the Lord thy God hath delivered [a city] into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones . . . shalt thou take unto thyself . . . But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth”(Deuteronomy 20:13-16).

“And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both males, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men who were before the house. And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go you forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city” (Ezekiel 9:5-7).

“Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice” (Koran 60:8). “And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in Allah; surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing” (Koran 8:61).

“(As for) the fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them, (giving) a hundred stripes, and let not pity for them detain you in the matter of obedience to Allah, if you believe in Allah and the last day, and let a party of believers witness their chastisement” (Koran 24:2).

“And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face . . . Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed”(Deuteronomy 25:2-3).

“What! will you not fight a people who broke their oaths and aimed at the expulsion of the Apostle, and they attacked you first; do you fear them? But Allah is most deserving that you should fear Him, if you are believers” (Koran 9:13)
“But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him” (Luke 12:5). “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matthew 10:28).

Lookls like a tie to me, headed into overtime.

as for the dark age ending? huh, guess someone forgot to tell everybody. I hadn't noticed any change.:banana:

[Chewy]

There is a Vietnam Veterans Group on MSN that many might find interesting, Many of the members are planning a Quick Trip to the WALL on March 17th, Carpooling there and back anybody interested can go to the site,


http://groups.msn.com/BrothersoftheNam

[10thzodiac]

Who said religion hardens hearts and enslaves minds ?

Do you think that could be a reason some religious wannabe scholars http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/16.gifare so ****** hateful ?

[DWG]

[QUOTE HARDJEDI]as for the dark age ending? huh, guess someone forgot to tell everybody. I hadn't noticed any change.

That seems obvious from your profile picture! Playing at it don't make it so!
:D

At least I haven't noticed anyone from the inquisiton in my neighborhood (except on MontyPython).
:confused:

[DWG]

Who said religion hardens hearts and enslaves minds ?

Do you think that could be a reason some religious wannabe scholars http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/16.gifare so ****** hateful ?

True belief doesn't, but religion has been abused by the self serving and evil throughout history. Doesn't mean you have to buy into it (unless you think we're still in the dark ages).

[10thzodiac]

[QUOTE HARDJEDI]as for the dark age ending? huh, guess someone forgot to tell everybody. I hadn't noticed any change.

That seems obvious from your profile picture! Playing at it don't make it so!
:D

At least I haven't noticed anyone from the inquisiton in my neighborhood (except on MontyPython).
:confused:

There is a GOD !

Like Bozo[oka] would say "Chalk up another one for DW, Good Post !"

SF

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[HardJedi]

[QUOTE=D W George

That seems obvious from your profile picture! Playing at it don't make it so!
:D


QUOTE]


LOL, got me on that one.:thumbup:

[DWG]

[quote harjedi]AHH! so you, like MOST people, have the DELUSION that the old testament is not part of the christian religion? Then why include it? Becaus without it there would BE no christianity.

and as to your point about muslims worshipping death? lets see WHICH version of god is more violent, shall we?[quote]

No delusion; te old testament is a set of parables on how to live a proper life for Hebrews and lays out the laws and penalties for disobeying those laws. Christ negates anything that comes beform him that contradicts what he says. There is no salvation before Christ, because no one is without sin and the sinful cannot enter heaven. No one can live and not violate some part of the old testament.
As to muslims worshipping death, that's their brag, not mine. They preach to die while killing the infidel will bring them instant admittance to allah land with the full virgin option package. Christianity doesn't have any deals like that. Well, actually it does; to die as a martyr will gain you acceptance in Heaven if you are a Christian and have died PREACHING the Gospel to the heathen. I haven't seen anything about scoring points for laying waste to the non-believers in the New Testament.
:)

[Bozooka]

[QUOTE HARDJEDI]as for the dark age ending? huh, guess someone forgot to tell everybody. I hadn't noticed any change.

That seems obvious from your profile picture! Playing at it don't make it so!
:D

At least I haven't noticed anyone from the inquisiton in my neighborhood (except on MontyPython).
:confused:

D W You are good.... Chalk another one up for you!...11111 11:D

[10thzodiac]

[quote=D W George

That seems obvious from your profile picture! Playing at it don't make it so!
:D


QUOTE]


LOL, got me on that one.:thumbup:
Have you ever considered parting your hair, bending over and walking back-wards in that [mid-evil] night-shirt ?

I'm sure you will be a big hit on campus with those whiny college pukes http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/18.gif

[thedrifter]

Gathering of Eagles' to protect Vietnam Veterans Wall

More information at the below URL:

http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb07/eagle.htm

[Bozooka]

Gathering of Eagles' to protect Vietnam Veterans Wall

More information at the below URL:

http://www.usvetdsp.com/feb07/eagle.htm


:devious: Here is a link that needs to be read! What the protesters did to the counter protesters. We can't let that happen again.:devious:

http://www.johnnypnews.com/DCProtestclash.htm

[10thzodiac]

The futility of a failed strategy and the support of our troops are two mutually exclusive concepts.

Why is that so difficult for people to understand?

<CITE>Obvious To Me </CITE>
<CITE></CITE>
<CITE>Our troops COMPLETED the mission A LONG TIME AGO, they were sent to depose of Saddam, to find out if there were WMD’s, AND THAT IS IT !

they are NOT a free Iraqi police force, they are NOT escorts, they are NOT builders of schools, they are NOT an occupying force.

What’s left is POLITICAL, it is NOT military and ANYONE that thinks keeping our troops doing politician’s work are the people that are not supporting our troops.

SF

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</CITE>

[jinelson]

by 10thzodiac - Why is that so difficult for people to understand?

I agree either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. It seems simple enough to me since they have told us that they want to dominate the world and have attacked us in the homeland. I do disagree with you about completing the mission long ago as they are all not dead and stinking yet. Now they even hold public office and run for President.

Jim

[Bozooka]

We need reinforcements to stop these ANTI-AMERICAN ANTI-MILITARY scum.
Hanoi Jane is at it again. Now she takes on the nick name of JIHAD JANE or FALLUJAH JANE!. She is now an official TOWEL HEAD beside a Viet-Cong.

http://www.bozooka.com/images/*******.jpg

[Bozooka]

Hanoi Jane now known as Jihad Jane

http://www.bozooka.com/images/Jihad_Jane.jpg

[10thzodiac]

We need reinforcements to stop these ANTI-AMERICAN ANTI-MILITARY scum.
Hanoi Jane is at it again. Now she takes on the nick name of JIHAD JANE or FALLUJAH JANE!. She is now an official TOWEL HEAD beside a Viet-Cong.


Bozooka, when you say "We, need reinforcements" (above), is "We", literally or figuratively ?

Just-curious


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[10thzodiac]

I agree either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. It seems simple enough to me since they have told us that they want to dominate the world and have attacked us in the homeland. I do disagree with you about completing the mission long ago as they are all not dead and stinking yet. Now they even hold public office and run for President.

Jim

Thanks for the enlightenment Jim, I never quite knew what [Jesus] he was talking about.

"He that is not with me is against me."

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Yup I'll be there.. :thumbup: Operation Gathering of Eagles ........

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Found the below and am passing on to ALCON.

We're Going To The Gathering Of Eagles. JOIN US!
EuphoricReality.com
Posted on February 9, 2007

Change in plans, dear readers. As you know, we had long ago made our plans to attend the 2nd Annual Milblogging Conference in D.C. in May. We were very pleased to participate in last year's conference, and were excited to attend again this year, and recently began raising funds to that end. However, we're now aware of an event in D.C. where we can walk our talk - in other words, take action for our veterans instead of just TALKING about it. We have discussed it seriously, and have decided that going to The Gathering of Eagles is a better use of the support we receive from our readers than going to a conference.

On March 17th, the socialistic, anti-war crowd (Cindy Sheehag, Hanoi Jane - now known as Jihad Jane - and their sorry ilk) will once again protest the war and our military. For drama's sake, they plan to congregate at the Vietnam Wall and march on the Pentagon. There have been gleeful threats of splashing red paint on the Vietnam Wall and other War Memorials. We cannot allow such a thing to happen. Vietnam vets are beyond outraged and are planning a counter-protest to protect the hallowed ground from such traitors. The event is called The Gathering Of Eagles. Read that article for more info and check out the Eagle's Nest forum.

Typically, liberal moonbats have a much better success rate at their marches and protests because, after all, they are unemployed and have nothing better to do with their miserable lives. Thus, true patriots have to suffer their outrages such as last weekend in D.C. when anarchists spray painted the U.S. Capitol steps and protesters spit upon and threatened our Iraqi vets, not to mention liberals' penchant for random acts of desecration of our flag.

I, for one, am sick and tired of fuming at a distance about these traitors. Kit and I have decided to go and put our bodies where our hearts are - and join veteran-Americans on guard around the sacred memorials of our nation and around our beloved veterans. We're done watching from far away while anti-Americans make a mockery of everything we hold sacred.

I would like to invite any Texans who are interested in going to D.C. to please contact me at redheadinfidel at gmail dot com. I will arrange the logistics of a carpool, vehicle caravan, or - best yet - a bus, if we have enough interest. We already have a bead on some inexpensive hotel rooms (a block has been reserved for Eagles) and logistics are my strong suit. I can keep the costs as low as possible, if you can get the time to get away. If you are located anywhere between Texas and D.C., still contact me - we can pick you up along the way!

Kit will be doing a live version of her radio show, The Front Line. I will be liveblogging it for our ER readers who would love to be there, but can't make the trip. Both of us will be doing our very best to stay out of trouble. Kit is under strict ROEs from The Marine, and has promised to raise my bail money if I go rogue without warning - which is quite possible with this Redhead, as you well know. We still plan to visit our friends at Walter Reed on Friday night - and are planning something fun for those wounded vets (at their request). We'll give you more details on that adventure as we nail down the particulars.

So…

Veterans from all over the nation will be there, plus their family and friends and supporters. Will you consider joining us? This is the chance of a lifetime, people!

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From the Rolling Thunder Web Site:

CALL FOR SUPPORT

March 17, 2007 Anti-War Demonstration and March to the Pentagon to Assemble at the VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL.

ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS SUPPORTERS, AFFILIATES, FRIENDS OF ROLLING THUNDER®; ALL MILITARY, VETERANS AND PATRIOTS.

CRITICALLY IMPERATIVE: MEET AT THE WALL 1000 HOURS / 17 MARCH 2007

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROTESTERS PLAN ON GOING RIGHT THROUGH THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE WALL / THREE MAN STATUE / AND THE WOMEN'S MEMORIAL. IT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE PROTECT OUR PRECIOUS MEMORIALS, THE SANCTITY OF THE WALL AND DEFEND OUR TROOPS THAT ARE IN IRAQ AND FIGHTING EACH AND EVERY HOUR FOR OUR COUNTRY.

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In response to the concerns expressed, I contacted Robin Owen (Person in charge of issuing event permits for the National Mall area) of the...

[maysoon]

Anti-War Rally in Washington D.C. on March 17th

Passing on the below provided by Major Bill "JungleRat" Donahue...

You may have heard about the upcoming Anti-war rally/protest that will occur on Saturday, March 17, 2007 in D.C.

From what I've been able to gather, there exists the real possibility that these bastards are planning on defacing the Vietnam War Memorial ("The Wall") and other Veterans Memorials.

It is my belief that Patriots (silent majority?) need to counter this attempt by moving to the forefront and confront any such effort, peacefully I hope.

Therefore, I'm proposing an effort to do just that. I don't know of any other effort along these lines that may be in the works so if you know of any, please advise me?

If you are serious about being an active participant in this counter-insurgency at home, let me know via email with "Operation Yorktown: Count Me In" in the subject line please.

Time is short to organize this properly. I envision the following to be done as quickly as possible;

1. Establish a "Command & Control" center
2. Identify and organize "Quick Reaction Platoons" as well as the Platoon Leaders (might need this to move quickly from one memorial to another as events unfold)
3. Establish communications methodologies and equipments (such as FRS hand helds)
4. Identify an encampment area for a 2-3 day duration
5. Logistics: This is a big one. We will need close coordination and quick work on this one.

And more...

What say you? Respond only if you can actively and willingly get involved. And please pass this along.

I am willing to use our website as a central "information" medium although we don't want to "tip our hand" to the "enemy".

It's past the time for true Patriots to get involved beyond mere words typed on a keyboard. I'm ready to act but one man, alone, won't have any impact.

Herbert W. "Bill" Donahue Jr.
Major USMC (Ret) 1960-1989
President, United American Patriots
www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org (http://www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org)
junglerat@triad.rr.com

Count me in.

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These Colors Don't Run

From Melanie Morgan, the chairman of Move America Forward:

We have some exceptional news to report - read on for details…

As you already know, Move America Forward is about to launch a major advertising campaign to rally support for our troops in Iraq. We’ve told you for several weeks now that we were working to put together a grassroots component to support this effort - and now we have a major announcement to make.

We have learned that anti-war protestors have been desecrating federal property and now in some isolated instances publicly denouncing/insulting returning Iraqi war veterans. On Saturday, March 17th, Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark will lead a giant anti-war protest in Washington, D.C. - disgracing the war memorials there as they march to the Pentagon. A massive anti-war crowd is expected - March 17th is after all the 4th anniversary of the commencement of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Move America Forward is proud to announce that we will be fighting back against all this negativity and disrespect towards our troops with a positive and patriotic nationaleffort titled: “THESE COLORS DON’T RUN”.

MAF will lead a national caravan of vehicles and supporters from California across the nation to Washington, D.C. Heading up the caravan will be Gold Star Parents who lost a child in the war on terrorism, Blue Star Parents who have a son/daughter serving in the war effort, or veterans of Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.

We are putting out the word to all Americans to join us for this national show of support for our troops - and at each stop along the way conducting a patriotic pro-troop rally where we will be collecting American flags from rally participants.

We are putting out the call for children in schools to make homemade flags to be brought to these rallies. We are asking for those who are good at knitting or sewing to make homemade flags. We are asking families to bring a flag that has sentimental value or a patriotic story behind it to these rallies. Or simply buy a flag, bring it to the rally so we can add
it to the collection of flags heading for the big Washington, D.C. event!

At each rally we will collect the flags and pack them in the trucks in our caravan and then bring them to Washington, D.C. where we will surround these war memorials in a giant sea of red, white and blue - and where we will conduct our final and largest pro-troop rally in Washington, D.C. - on March 17, 2006 - opposite the major anti war protest.

When the rally is completed we will send each flag donated to the effort to a unit serving in Iraq and Afghanistan with a placard explaining the story behind the national effort that brought this flag of support from the United States, overseas to our troops serving in the war on terrorism.

This will be one of the most ambitious efforts we have ever undertaken at Move America Forward. We will need your support for this positive, uplifting and patriotic event.

In the coming days we will be reaching out to coordinate our efforts and offer support to such fine organizations as Free Republic, Vets for Truth, and the “Gathering of Eagles ” project and participating veterans groups to make sure that there is a vibrant and patriotic effort from coast to coast.

We will be posting our planned route and stops at the Move America Forward website: http://www.MoveAmericaForward.org

Check your emails and the MAF website for more specifics on this national caravan and information on how you can join along in your own vehicle; we’ll have additional information on our pro-troop rallies, and also helpful suggestions on how you can contribute a flag to this historic event.

Thank you as always for your support of the men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces and their families - they need our backing now more than ever!

Fondly,

Melanie Morgan
Chairman, Move America Forward

P.S. Forward this message on to others to help spread the word about this patriotic effort!

[thedrifter]

Gathering of Eagles- Mission Statement
Posted By Uncle Jimbo

An update on the Gathering of Eagles from the Rehead Infidel herself.

Since the MSM is giving us the cold shoulder, while continuing to promo
the Cindy Sheehan/Jane Fonda/Ramsey Clark anti-war march, we must rely on people like yourself to help get the word out. Will you help? If so
or if you already have, please let us know at webmasters @gatheringof eagles.org and we will be sure to list your website under Participating Websites or Media.

The Silent Majority in America is SILENT NO MORE. We will no longer
permit the anti-war, anti-military message be the only thing our
soldiers in the field hear.
--
Heidi Thiess

(aka Redhead Infidel)

www.gatheringofeagles.org
www.euphoricreality.com
www.guardtheborders.com

"The moral difference between a soldier and a civilian is that the
soldier accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of
which he is a member. The civilian does not." --Robert Heinlein

Personally I think she needs a few more websites and causes, she's slackin'

Ellie

[thedrifter]

February 15, 2007
Tragic!
Maj Pain

Pretty much sums it up. When I was in Iraq, we heard that there was little to no news about the great things we were doing there at the time back in the states or even the town our base was in. Tragic! Your service members are forwardly deployed kicking ass and we go to work everyday wondering if it’s going to snow or some other “terrible” event is going to happen. Try a couple RPGs shot your way to ruin your day! Regardless of the news, remember, your warriors are doing great things abroad. Also, remember this long weekend those who have lost loved ones in the World Trade Center, Pentagon, Open Field and in the War on Terrorism!

There is word that a group of idiots are going to demonstrate at the Vietnam Memoriam Wall in DC. Boy, we have news for them. Its called the Patriot Guard Riders who swear they will remain between the idiots and the wall to ensure it doesn’t get vandalized like the Capital during the last demonstration. I think I will have to join them! Semper Fi- I will be the one with the “Doest Play Well With Others” t-shirt and C-Gar!

Semper Fi-Keep Attacking!!

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Eagles Ready to Take Flight
February 17, 2007
By Felicia Benamon

Gathering of Eagles Group Ready to Rebuff Anti-War Protesters in D.C.

There has always been a group of those who will stand in the face of those who revel in and bring negative dissention and discord. No exception will be made on March 17, 2007 as a group dubbed Gathering of Eagles will officiate its own rally in Washington D.C. to counter any protests and inflammatory rhetoric anti-war protesters may dish out during their next gathering.

The last time anti-war protesters marched, the Capitol steps were defaced as these "protesters" displayed their raucous and unruly behavior, showing total disrespect for our nation's institutions. Imagine then, if the scene were repeated, this time as they march near one of our nation's most sacred war memorials, the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C.! It is unfathomable why an anti-war group would think of holding protests on such a hallowed ground where the names of those who have died in past and present wars are displayed proudly. Those brave souls PROUDLY fought to keep our nation free, so that we may have the freedom to disagree with our government, but not get to the point where it becomes disrespectful of our soldiers and out of control. Many with the anti-war movement take the opportunity to display nasty behavior instead of showing respect. And the Gathering of Eagles, a group of patriots (from military to civilian) led by Col. Harry Riley (US Army, Ret.) will be in Washington D.C. to make sure that our memorials are respected, and to show solidarity and stand in unison with those who take up arms to defend this country. I am truly honored to get word of such a fine group of individuals.

What stirred me to write and support the Gathering of Eagles was a powerful email sent by my friend… blogger, author, and Korean War Vet Tom Craighead. In it Mr. Craighead details a dream he had regarding the upcoming Gathering of Eagles event:

Tom writes:

Today's blog came to me as the most powerful dream I have had in a very long time.

Thousands of veterans listed on the Wall of the Vietnam Memorial, were standing before me. They were in formation standing at 'parade rest'.

One of them stepped out of formation and approached me. He clicked his heels to atten-tion! Then he saluted, his right hand pointed stiffly straight to his eyebrow. He held the salute for a long time, until I realized he was waiting for me to return the salute. I was confused, inasmuch as I was an enlisted man, and we only salute the bars on an officers shoulders. I returned the salute, and he resumed the position of attention.

I told him to relax, and I asked him why he was in my dream. He turned slightly, and pointed to the thousands of spirits in formation before him. They were all in military uniform. He signaled to them, and they all snapped to attention, responded in a very loud, "HOO-RAH!!!

Then the soldier (in uniform without bars or stripes) told me they were here in my dream to convey a message to Col. Harry Riley, and to all the volunteers that have come out to organize the "Gathering of Eagles." And your message is?, I asked. The soldier with a broad smile on his face said, "THANK YOU Colonel Riley, sir, and thank all those who are volunteering to give us our just deserve, and to disgrace those who honor us not." He then said, "Everyone of us gathered here will attend the 'Gathering of Eagles'. You of course will not see us, but you will feel our presence." Then he waved to the troops again, and they responded with another very loud "HOO-RAH!!" Then he said, "Now wake up and start writing." I did.

Thank you Lord above for sending them to me. God bless the Gathering of Eagles! God bless America!

Enough for now, I'll be back!

Tom Craighead,
Editor, COGG (Conservatives Of Good Government)
Author, 'The Lethal Liberal Society in America' sold by Amazon, & Barns&Noble
My Website: www.crunk-publishing.com
www.USAWakeUp.Org
To receive his blog or to contact Tom Craighead:
COGGWheel@aol.com

***

After reading the above, surely the spirits of those who have died to protect us live on and are aware of what our nation is facing today. They are watching. Shall we not honor them by protecting the memorials that are a tribute to their sacrifice?
The Gathering of Eagles movement is spreading quickly as one by one, patriotic organizations mobilize to join this effort. Move America Forward and the Rolling Thunder motorcycle group have announced their participation as well. Although these organizations quickly and happily declared their intentions to support our troops by rallying in D.C., Americans from all walks of life who love our great country are encouraged to come as well. Honor our fallen by saying, "We appreciate your sacrifice, we understand the threat to our country, we stand with you, and we respect you."

The Gathering of Eagles movement is a poignant moment during this turbulent time in our nation's history. To get the opportunity to come together in such a powerful way as is planned, is an honor. I may not be able to make this journey to stand side by side with my military brethren, but I do support them in spirit.

The Gathering of Eagles and our troops need you! I believe that this meeting planned for March 17, 2007 is becoming a snowball effect in that more and more Americans are being stirred and moved to join our military at the Vietnam Memorial. Please get the message out, spread the word… we need more eagles like you to stand side by side with our military. Won't you join The Gathering of Eagles?

*To find out more about the rally to support our military and our brave fallen at the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D.C. on March 17, 2007, visit:

Gathering of Eagles website:
www.gatheringofeagles.org
Contact Col. Harry Riley (US Army, Ret.)
Founder, Gathering of Eagles
hmriley@cox.net

Rolling Thunder:
www.rollingthundermotorcyclerally.com

Move America Forward
www.moveamericaforward.org

*Felicia (Fee) Benamon is a political columnist who writes for various conservative sites including RenewAmerica.us, Michnews.com, Daley-Times Post, Renaissance Women ( http://www.rwnetwork.net/ ) , Capitolhillcoffeehouse.com, TheConservativeVoice.com, Mensnewsdaily.com, ConservativeCrusader.com, and other news sites like AmericanChronicle. Felicia also does freelance writing/reporting in her area. She hails from a military background, and has been politically active since the 2000 elections. Felicia has been a guest speaker on KYAL2K, conservative talk readio (www.k-talk.com), Salt Lake City, UT, and America Talks, conservative internet talk radio, with David Zublick (www.americatalks.com). You may email Felicia: Feereports@aol.com

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Are the vets that ride the motorcycles that follow Fred Phelps around and mess up his protests going?

[devildog4life30]

H guys I say we show up armed. Defend what belongs to us. There is no peaceful resolution. I say if you think your big enough to deface it then go ahead and try.

[thedrifter]

Move America Foerward,THESE COLORS DON'T RUN
My Son is in Iraq

By Deborah Johns

Saturday, February 24, 2007

My son is currently serving his third tour of duty in Operation Iraqi Freedom, and I am sick and tired of the anti-war crowd in this country constantly trying to undermine the missions of our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I thought I should share with you why it is that I am giving up two weeks from my family to be one of the leaders of the national "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN" patriotic/pro-troop caravan being organized by Move America Forward.
This is my letter to you, the American people

Semper Fidelis: These are not just mere words, they have a meaning greater than their literal definition in a dictionary. They mean "Always Faithful."

Not only is this the motto of the United States Marines, but also of their families, and it has spilled over into the hearts and souls of all those who serve in every branch of our military and their families as well.

Always Faithful to God. Always Faithful to your brother (or sister) who serves along side you. Always Faithful to your Country… Always Faithful to your Family… Always Faithful to your Commander in Chief.

People ask me every day, "how do you get through the days with a son serving in Iraq?"

Well, the answer is an obvious one. Always Faithful to God, Always Faithful to the heroic men and women of the U.S. military who serve along side my son. Always Faithful to the Commander in Chief, Always Faithful to my Country.

However, it does not seem that our political leaders and media representatives have remained Always Faithful

I have traveled across this country and I have listened to the American people. I have heard the support that is expressed for our military and I know that the American people do support the war on terror. They just want communication. They just want to know what the goals and objectives are.

I understand that the American people wanted change in leadership in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. I understand the American people want things to go better in Iraq so our troops can come home. However, none of this can be accomplished because of the partisan politics that are taking place, which is ultimately hurting our military. You can’t imagine how much it sickens me to see our troops used as little more than pawns in a chess game where some politicians care more about putting our President in "checkmate" than they do in winning the war our sons and daughters are bravely fighting.

I am tired of those defeat & retreat politicians who say they are patriotic, and then insult the Commander in Chief at a time when we have boots on the ground in war zones.

I am tired of the politicians who want us to wave the white flag of surrender, but who then tell me how much they "support our troops." As a military mom I can tell you that no soldier, Marine, sailor, airmen or Guardsmen wants to risk his or her life in a military mission, only to have political leaders denouncing the validity and morality of the missions that these troops are serving in. That is NOT supporting our troops.

Can you imagine being over in Iraq or Afghanistan, facing Islamic terrorists hell-bent on killing you, and returning to your base to hear that the best plan to win this war is with a "phased redeployment" (liberal-speak for retreat) out of the combat zone to someplace like Okinawa?

I am tired of the anti-war politicians whining for months on T.V., in the New York Times, and in the House and Senate that we need more troops to win the war in Iraq, and then when the President plans to do just that, they say that this is the wrong plan, it won’t work, and we need a "new direction." Yet they don’t offer any new direction or a better plan.

I am tired of the decisions of Sergeants and Privates made in the heat of battle being scrutinized by lawyers and political commentators who were not there. Those who snub their nose at the military, and who look down at the men and women who serve in the Armed Forces, will never really know the state of mind of the young Marines or soldiers who were there and what is asked of them in order to survive.

I am tired of certain media outlets like CNN claiming that they are showing "news," with anti-American propaganda videotapes sent to them by terrorists that show Marines and Soldiers being shot at by snipers—but then refusing to show what happens when our military builds a new school, paves a road, hands out food and water to children, opens a water treatment plant, provides much needed medical supplies to children in an orphanage.

I am tired of the politicians who act as Monday morning armchair generals, second-guessing the war effort and our military men and women. If you cannot stand behind our military and support them, go stand in front of them. Far better you stand in front of them than their parents, because they have to follow the Rules of Engagement and we don’t!

I am tired of the thousands of people in the rear who claim that they are working hard to support the troops and their way of supporting them is to bring them home. When was the last time any of you who made this statement went out to the airport to greet our troops during their redeployments back home? When was the last time any of you who say you "oppose the war, but support the troops" ever helped out a grieving widow or mother? When was the last time any of you provided help at the facilities for the wounded? When was the last time any of you sent Christmas Cards, or a care package to our troops?

I am tired of politicians who are running for office suddenly showing up at the opening of rehab facilities for our wounded for their photo opportunities as if they had really been supporting our troops all along.

I am tired of Code Pink, Daily Kos, Al-Jazzera, CNN, Reuters, the Associated Press, ABC, NBC, CBS, the ACLU, and CAIR thinking that they somehow get to have a vote in how our troops on the ground blast, shoot and kill these terrorist who have no regard for human life and who would seek to subdue and destroy us every chance they get.

I am sick and tired of people like Cindy Sheehan who not only go around the United States bashing our military, our President, but goes around the world and hugs thugs like Hugo Chavez, as if he has been her best friend her entire life. Cindy Sheehan: "You Don’t Speak for Me" and it’s time for you to zip your lip, go back home to your family and stop playing the role as this generation’s "Tokyo Rose."

I am sick and tired of the politicians and their whining about this war, because it is this constant whining that is emboldening the terrorists to continue to kill and injure our troops and kill innocent civilians in Iraq. Can’t you give up even for a little while, your pathetic desire to get time in front of the TV cameras by doing the politically correct thing of denouncing the war effort? Could you please shelve your personal and political ambition, take your unhelpful bickering behind close doors and put your self-glorification aside for the good of our troops and this nation?

I am tired of people like Meredith Vieria from NBC asking oxygen thieves like Senator Chuck Hagel questions like "Senator, at this point, do you think we are fighting and dying for nothing?" Meredith might not get it, but Marines and soldiers do know the difference between fighting and dying for something and fighting and dying for nothing.

I am tired of journalists like William Arkin who say: "So, we pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?"

Please tell me what a decent wage looks like for them Mr. Arkin? You need to meet Cindy Sheehan at the closest airport and fly back home with her and stop insulting the men and women of our military.

I am tired of people whining about how costly this war is when they hear of a casualty. You have no idea what we as families go through when we hear 12 Marines killed; 8 Soldiers killed. You cannot even imagine the pain and difficulty we experience with the instantaneous news in our face on a daily basis. We grieve for the loss of a hero, we grieve for their families and we feel tremendous guilt when we feel relieved that it was not us who received that knock at the door.

But we stand in solidarity with our troops overseas. We become even more committed to rallying support for them and their missions. So, could you please stop trying to undo that by voicing opposition to what our troops are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? If you are so upset with the news of U.S. casualties in these areas, then do what you can to help our troops achieve VICTORY and SUCCESS so they can come home as soon as their missions are completed.

I am tired of Rules of Engagement being made by JAG lawyers and not Combat Commanders; and politicians who have never served in the military second-guessing everything after the fact. Our military is not playing Hopscotch over there. There is no 2nd place trophy either. I think that if the enemy knew some rough treatment was at hand for them, instead of prayer rugs, special diets and free Korans; this might help send a message to the terrorists that this nation means business.

I am tired of hearing people say to me I am glad it is your son and not mine. Well you know what me too, because I would not want your coward of a son serving next to mine because it might be him and his lack of back bone that would cost my son his life. So you just let your kid go to an anti-war rally on a college campus, or attend the next MoveOn.org organizational meeting and be a wimp, while mine defends this great nation with Honor, Courage, and Commitment.

I am tired of hearing that my son has to stand down when being shot at by terrorists from inside of a Mosque, or terrorists inside a home with women and children when they are used as human shields—like the first battle in Fallujah. No, that’s not the key to victory… instead let us turn loose our troops to do what they must to defeat, kill and annihilate enemy combatants so that this war can be over and our military men and women can finally come home.

We are in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill our enemies. It is that simple.

It is only possible to defeat an enemy who kills indiscriminately by utterly destroying him. He cannot be made to yield or surrender or sit down and talk nicely about the situation. This is not Barney "I Love You, You Love Me and we are one big happy family." These terrorists will fight to the death by the thousands to kill the infidels who do not believe in their way of life and that means you and me and our Marines and Soldiers serving in Iraq.

As the President asked in his recent speech to the Nation: Please all of you put down your own selfish agendas. Take a good long look at what you are doing. Because I am telling you your actions, the mud slinging you all have going on against one another is hurting and hindering our military men and women and their families.

All of you politicians had access to the same intelligence the President had when you voted for this war. You all had a similar view of Saddam Hussein, and you all knew that Iraq was a state sponsor of Islamic terrorist groups. The fact is that we are in Iraq and Afghanistan, and our troops need our support to get the job done so they can come home, and all of you politicians need to stop acting like a bunch of whining 2 year-olds who are not getting your way. I am telling you if you cut the funding to our military and do not provide them with the manpower and equipment they need to get this job done, you are no better than the terrorists who shot at them and try to kill them.

I know the American People want change in Iraq, our military wants change and so do their families. The change we want is for everyone to stop undermining the war effort and support our troops so that they may achieve a complete military victory in Iraq and Afghanistan alike.

Please, as a Mother of a Marine serving his third tour of duty, on his behalf, on the behalf of his brothers serving along side him, our troops, and their families, lay down your anger towards one another and do what is right and in the best interests of our Military.

God Bless them until they come home, God Bless those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, God Bless their families who are Always Faithful and God Bless this Country.

Please join us for the "THESE COLORS DON’T RUN" national caravan hosted by Move America Forward and the "Gathering of Eagles" event in Washington, D.C. on March 17th.
Semper Fidelis
Deborah K. Johns
Very Proud Marine Mom of
SGT William Johns, USMC 3rd Tour of Duty in Iraq

P.S. You can learn more about our planned efforts by watching my appearance on Fox News Channel’s "Your World with Neil Cavuto":

Ellie

[jinelson]

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Does anyone know the scoop on the group above? Im curious as to who they are and their affiliations to veterans groups. Also whats the acronym stand for?

Jim

[jinelson]

Fly High you Eagles, soar
On you we all depend.
To serve, to stand, support our war,
Our fallen to defend.
Stand firm, stand brave before our Wall;
Deal those a sorry fate,
Who answer Fonda's hateful call:
Our nation they must hate.

Fly high you Eagles, soar,
Your keen eyes see below,
The leftist fools oppose this war,
To them no low's too low.
They seek our Wall to desecrate,
To enhance their losing cause;
They seek to doom our nation's fate;
They see nothing but our flaws.

Fly high you Eagles, soar,
Above those who seek defeat,
Who seek submission, nothing more,
To a terror they can't meet.
They falter when the course is long;
They're weak-willed, failed and bitter;
Got it all entirely wrong,
So typical of a quitter.

Fly high you Eagles, soar,
Stand proud before our Wall;
You are the nation's heart, the core,
The essence of us all.
Know that we stand there with you,
In spirit and in soul,
America's not lost, not through,
We've a long, long way to go.

Fly high you Eagles, soar, from your lofty, special station,
Know this is true forever more; you've the blessing of your nation.


Russ Vaughn

Vietnam Veteran

[Marine84]

Well, here's some trash to get you boiling! Check the link out below - it's supposed to be Cindy Sheehan's blog. Some of these people are just f'ing funny!

Ellie - since you got one over there.................when Vets started coming in and posting comments - all the "peace lovers" went ballistic - they are some angry people. She actually posted something in one of her own entries that she wished the Vets would just go masterbate somewhere else. THIS IS A GOLD STAR MOTHER ya'll talking $h!t.

http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizations/gsfp/blog/comments.jsp?blog_entry_KEY=22399&t

[jinelson]

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LMAO Good work I love it outstanding!

Jim

[Marine84]

wait til you read some of that junk Jim

[SkilletsUSMC]

Marine84

Thank you for the link... I dont think I am going to sleep tonight. I am starting to believe that a 2nd civil war is comming arround. This is gonna get ugly.

[Marine84]

It's amazing that these guys are so stupid - I guess everybody has to have something to believe in. The more you read the more you'll see they ALL keep saying the SAME trash. I don't understand why somebody that believes in peace is TRYING to start one of their own in their own yard!?!?!?!?!?!

If anybody from here is going - PLEASE do not let these guys provoke you - that's EXACTLY what they're looking to do. If you do take the bait, you will have to watch them on the 6:00 news EVERY night for a month. It's going to be one of those self discipline things but if they try to throw paint on it or deface it in ANY way - SHOW 'EM WHAT TRUE DEVIL DOGS ARE!

Somebody just passed the "$h!t stirrer" to her for a while.

[cplbrooks]

Anti-War Rally in Washington D.C. on March 17th

Passing on the below provided by Major Bill "JungleRat" Donahue...

You may have heard about the upcoming Anti-war rally/protest that will occur on Saturday, March 17, 2007 in D.C.

From what I've been able to gather, there exists the real possibility that these bastards are planning on defacing the Vietnam War Memorial ("The Wall") and other Veterans Memorials.

It is my belief that Patriots (silent majority?) need to counter this attempt by moving to the forefront and confront any such effort, peacefully I hope.

Therefore, I'm proposing an effort to do just that. I don't know of any other effort along these lines that may be in the works so if you know of any, please advise me?

If you are serious about being an active participant in this counter-insurgency at home, let me know via email with "Operation Yorktown: Count Me In" in the subject line please.

Time is short to organize this properly. I envision the following to be done as quickly as possible;

1. Establish a "Command & Control" center
2. Identify and organize "Quick Reaction Platoons" as well as the Platoon Leaders (might need this to move quickly from one memorial to another as events unfold)
3. Establish communications methodologies and equipments (such as FRS hand helds)
4. Identify an encampment area for a 2-3 day duration
5. Logistics: This is a big one. We will need close coordination and quick work on this one.

And more...

What say you? Respond only if you can actively and willingly get involved. And please pass this along.

I am willing to use our website as a central "information" medium although we don't want to "tip our hand" to the "enemy".

It's past the time for true Patriots to get involved beyond mere words typed on a keyboard. I'm ready to act but one man, alone, won't have any impact.

Herbert W. "Bill" Donahue Jr.
Major USMC (Ret) 1960-1989
President, United American Patriots
www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org (http://www.UnitedAmericanPatriots.Org)
junglerat@triad.rr.com

Count me in.

[003XXMarineDAD]

I just finshed reading the bile from that link. I commend you and the others that took them on.
I know what it will be like in D.C. on the 17th. It will be tense and to all that go be careful with the left wing media on site the will turn a blind eye to what the far left kooks do but will film any thing the one's protecting the wall into a rodney king event.
We have been facing off with our local women for peace the last two weekends and it has ****ed them off being how they did not get the press coverage to themselves.
It will be interesting to see how the media cover this event.
Any bets the peace actifists get the glory role.
God Bless our troops.
:)

[iamcloudlander]

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?

My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of the Iraq regime has been completed.

Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete.

This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning.


Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom , Spain , Bulgaria , Australia , and Poland are some of the countries listed there.

The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war.

The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hellholes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.

Need help with a famine ? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France .

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home . On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.

Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France , or maybe China .

I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France , Germany , and Russia . Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not ****ing us off for a change.

Mexico is also on List 2 President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put 'em? Yep, border security.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty - starting now.

We are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we'll be drilling for oil in Alaska - which will take care of this country's oil needs for decades to come. If you're an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move there. They care.

It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, "darn tootin."

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to eliminate homelessness in America . To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thank you guys. We owe you and we won't forget.

To the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak Arabic.

God bless America . Thank you and good night.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.

Let's get this to every USA computer!)

[ivalis]

interesting concept reguarding foreign aid, the problem is the numbers don't add up.

total foreign aid (all countries) was in the $34 billion range for 2004 (last year that totals are available).$34 billion would only pay for about 17 weeks of the war.

Canada's military presence in Afghanistan is (per capita) quite significant. 10% of the troops, 20% of the casualties.

[thedrifter]

To The American People
By Deborah Johns
February 26, 2007

Editor's Note: Deborah Johns is the mother of Marine Sgt. William Johns, USMC, who is serving his third tour of duty in Iraq.

I am sick and tired. Sick and tired of how some in this country are turning their backs on our troops at a time when they need our support the most!

This is why I am taking action to speak up, and in particular, why I am helping to lead the "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN" national pro-troop/patriotic caravan being organized by Move America Forward.

This is my letter to you, the American people.

Semper Fidelis: These are not just mere words, they have a meaning greater than their literal definition in a dictionary. They mean "Always Faithful."

Not only is this the motto of the United States Marines, but also of their families, and it has spilled over into the hearts and souls of all those who serve in every branch of our military and their families as well.

Always Faithful to God. Always Faithful to your brother (or sister) who serves along side you. Always Faithful to your Country... Always Faithful to your Family... Always Faithful to your Commander in Chief.

People ask me every day, "how do you get through the days with a son serving in Iraq?"

Well, the answer is an obvious one. Always Faithful to God, Always Faithful to the heroic men and women of the U.S. military who serve along side my son. Always Faithful to the Commander in Chief, Always Faithful to my Country.

However, it does not seem that our political leaders and media representatives have remained Always Faithful

I have traveled across this country and I have listened to the American people. I have heard the support that is expressed for our military and I know that the American people do support the war on terror. They just want communication. They just want to know what the goals and objectives are.

I understand that the American people wanted change in leadership in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. I understand the American people want things to go better in Iraq so our troops can come home. However, none of this can be accomplished because of the partisan politics that are taking place, which is ultimately hurting our military. You can't imagine how much it sickens me to see our troops used as little more than pawns in a chess game where some politicians care more about putting our President in "checkmate" than they do in winning the war our sons and daughters are bravely fighting.

I am tired of those defeat & retreat politicians who say they are patriotic, and then insult the Commander in Chief at a time when we have boots on the ground in war zones.

I am tired of the politicians who want us to wave the white flag of surrender, but who then tell me how much they "support our troops." As a military mom I can tell you that no soldier, Marine, sailor, airmen or Guardsmen wants to risk his or her life in a military mission, only to have political leaders denouncing the validity and morality of the missions that these troops are serving in. That is NOT supporting our troops.

Can you imagine being over in Iraq or Afghanistan, facing Islamic terrorists hell-bent on killing you, and returning to your base to hear that the best plan to win this war is with a "phased redeployment" (liberal-speak for retreat) out of the combat zone to someplace like Okinawa?

I am tired of the anti-war politicians whining for months on T.V., in the New York Times, and in the House and Senate that we need more troops to win the war in Iraq, and then when the President plans to do just that, they say that this is the wrong plan, it won't work, and we need a "new direction." Yet they don't offer any new direction or a better plan.

I am tired of the decisions of Sergeants and Privates made in the heat of battle being scrutinized by lawyers and political commentators who were not there. Those who snub their nose at the military, and who look down at the men and women who serve in the Armed Forces, will never really know the state of mind of the young Marines or soldiers who were there and what is asked of them in order to survive.

I am tired of certain media outlets like CNN claiming that they are showing "news," with anti-American propaganda videotapes sent to them by terrorists that show Marines and Soldiers being shot at by snipers--but then refusing to show what happens when our military builds a new school, paves a road, hands out food and water to children, opens a water treatment plant, provides much needed medical supplies to children in an orphanage.

I am tired of the politicians who act as Monday morning armchair generals, second-guessing the war effort and our military men and women. If you cannot stand behind our military and support them, go stand in front of them. Far better you stand in front of them than their parents, because they have to follow the Rules of Engagement and we don't!

I am tired of the thousands of people in the rear who claim that they are working hard to support the troops and their way of supporting them is to bring them home. When was the last time any of you who made this statement went out to the airport to greet our troops during their redeployments back home? When was the last time any of you who say you "oppose the war, but support the troops" ever helped out a grieving widow or mother? When was the last time any of you provided help at the facilities for the wounded? When was the last time any of you sent Christmas Cards, or a care package to our troops?

I am tired of politicians who are running for office suddenly showing up at the opening of rehab facilities for our wounded for their photo opportunities as if they had really been supporting our troops all along.

I am tired of Code Pink, Daily Kos, Al-Jazzera, CNN, Reuters, the Associated Press, ABC, NBC, CBS, the ACLU, and CAIR thinking that they somehow get to have a vote in how our troops on the ground blast, shoot and kill these terrorist who have no regard for human life and who would seek to subdue and destroy us every chance they get.

I am sick and tired of people like Cindy Sheehan who not only go around the United States bashing our military, our President, but goes around the world and hugs thugs like Hugo Chavez, as if he has been her best friend her entire life. Cindy Sheehan: "You Don't Speak for Me" and it's time for you to zip your lip, go back home to your family and stop playing the role as this generation's "Tokyo Rose."

I am sick and tired of the politicians and their whining about this war, because it is this constant whining that is emboldening the terrorists to continue to kill and injure our troops and kill innocent civilians in Iraq. Can't you give up even for a little while, your pathetic desire to get time in front of the TV cameras by doing the politically correct thing of denouncing the war effort? Could you please shelve your personal and political ambition, take your unhelpful bickering behind close doors and put your self-glorification aside for the good of our troops and this nation?

I am tired of people like Meredith Vieria from NBC asking oxygen thieves like Senator Chuck Hagel questions like "Senator, at this point, do you think we are fighting and dying for nothing?" Meredith might not get it, but Marines and soldiers do know the difference between fighting and dying for something and fighting and dying for nothing.

I am tired of journalists like William Arkin who say: "So, we pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?"

Please tell me what a decent wage looks like for them Mr. Arkin? You need to meet Cindy Sheehan at the closest airport and fly back home with her and stop insulting the men and women of our military.

I am tired of people whining about how costly this war is when they hear of a casualty. You have no idea what we as families go through when we hear 12 Marines killed; 8 Soldiers killed. You cannot even imagine the pain and difficulty we experience with the instantaneous news in our face on a daily basis. We grieve for the loss of a hero, we grieve for their families and we feel tremendous guilt when we feel relieved that it was not us who received that knock at the door.

But we stand in solidarity with our troops overseas. We become even more committed to rallying support for them and their missions. So, could you please stop trying to undo that by voicing opposition to what our troops are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? If you are so upset with the news of U.S. casualties in these areas, then do what you can to help our troops achieve VICTORY and SUCCESS so they can come home as soon as their missions are completed.

I am tired of Rules of Engagement being made by JAG lawyers and not Combat Commanders; and politicians who have never served in the military second-guessing everything after the fact. Our military is not playing Hopscotch over there. There is no 2nd place trophy either. I think that if the enemy knew some rough treatment was at hand for them, instead of prayer rugs, special diets and free Korans; this might help send a message to the terrorists that this nation means business.

I am tired of hearing people say to me I am glad it is your son and not mine. Well you know what me too, because I would not want your coward of a son serving next to mine because it might be him and his lack of back bone that would cost my son his life. So you just let your kid go to an anti-war rally on a college campus, or attend the next MoveOn.org organizational meeting and be a wimp, while mine defends this great nation with Honor, Courage, and Commitment.

I am tired of hearing that my son has to stand down when being shot at by terrorists from inside of a Mosque, or terrorists inside a home with women and children when they are used as human shields--like the first battle in Fallujah. No, that's not the key to victory... instead let us turn loose our troops to do what they must to defeat, kill and annihilate enemy combatants so that this war can be over and our military men and women can finally come home.

We are in Iraq and Afghanistan to kill our enemies. It is that simple.

It is only possible to defeat an enemy who kills indiscriminately by utterly destroying him. He cannot be made to yield or surrender or sit down and talk nicely about the situation. This is not Barney "I Love You, You Love Me and we are one big happy family." These terrorists will fight to the death by the thousands to kill the infidels who do not believe in their way of life and that means you and me and our Marines and Soldiers serving in Iraq.

As the President asked in his recent speech to the Nation: Please all of you put down your own selfish agendas. Take a good long look at what you are doing. Because I am telling you your actions, the mud slinging you all have going on against one another is hurting and hindering our military men and women and their families.

All of you politicians had access to the same intelligence the President had when you voted for this war. You all had a similar view of Saddam Hussein, and you all knew that Iraq was a state sponsor of Islamic terrorist groups. The fact is that we are in Iraq and Afghanistan, and our troops need our support to get the job done so they can come home, and all of you politicians need to stop acting like a bunch of whining 2 year-olds who are not getting your way. I am telling you if you cut the funding to our military and do not provide them with the manpower and equipment they need to get this job done, you are no better than the terrorists who shot at them and try to kill them.

I know the American People want change in Iraq, our military wants change and so do their families. The change we want is for everyone to stop undermining the war effort and support our troops so that they may achieve a complete military victory in Iraq and Afghanistan alike.

Please, as a Mother of a Marine serving his third tour of duty, on his behalf, on the behalf of his brothers serving along side him, our troops, and their families, lay down your anger towards one another and do what is right and in the best interests of our Military.

God Bless them until they come home, God Bless those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, God Bless their families who are Always Faithful and God Bless this Country.

Please join us for the "THESE COLORS DON'T RUN" national caravan hosted by Move America Forward and the "Gathering of Eagles" event in Washington, D.C. on March 17th.

Semper Fidelis
Deborah K. Johns
Very Proud Marine Mom of SGT William Johns, USMC
3rd Tour of Duty in Iraq

Ellie

[thedrifter]

Posted By Blackfive

Continuing our support of the Gathering of Eagles, Russ Vaughn, MilBlog poet laureate, has written a masterpiece. Someone get Trace Adkins on the phone to sing this one:

You Ain't Gonna Touch This Wall

Look, boy, you're free to demonstrate,
March up and down this Mall;
But, son, I'm gonna set you straight,
You ain't gonna touch this Wall.

You shout and scream all you want,
On all that we'll give a pass;
But you try some Wall-defacing stunt,
And, son, I'm gonna kick your ass.

(Chorus)
Let us make it clear, we've all come here
To defend our long-dead brothers;
And understand you ain't layin' a hand
On our Wall you leftie mothers...


What If A Gathering of Eagles Fails? Magnum P.I. Answered ‘What If!’
February 27th, 2007 | Category: Guest Authors

Another excellent commentary from Ron Winter. Please go here to read the article in its entirety, especially the Magnum P.I. connection. Meanwhile, a rousing excerpt is below:

There is no question that the vigil is necessary, and for it to succeed, it needs only to occur. Whether the vigil is attended by 50 veterans, or 500 or 5000, is not relevant. That we go, and stand shoulder to shoulder to defend our memorials and the honor and dignity of the Americans who died defending our freedoms is all that matters.

Regarding the possibility of violence, it is likely only if it is used by the pro-terrorists and their anarchist brethren. But I would caution those prone to violence to think twice before attacking a solid mass of people who are the all-time masters at improvisational combat. The media can rewrite history all it wants, but we have defeated every enemy we ever faced, regardless of how vicious the tactics they used.

We have improvised, we have adapted and we have overcome every single time. I wouldn’t recommend violence against this group, especially from people who are attempting to shield their true pro-terrorism agenda from the public by claiming to be marching for “peace.”

We will stand our vigil, peacefully, but firmly. Attacking us would be foolhardy and counter-productive on many fronts.

I realize that the hand-wringers and worry warts will continue to chew on this issue right up until March 17, and probably even afterwards. That is their nature and it won’t change.

But there is a simple and succinct answer to the question “What if we don’t go?”

“We will!”

Ellie

[sloan52]

well i live about 98 miles from washington d.c., and i plan to attend and do everything in my power to protect the vietnam wall or any other memorial there. i will not stand by and watch the wall or any memorial that represents our fighting men be destroyed. semper fi..

[devildog4life30]

urah sir

[thedrifter]

A Gathering Of Eagles
By Michelle Malkin
February 28, 2007

How many times have you sat in front of the television over the last four years, watching anti-war activists march on Washington, chase the ROTC off your local college campus, vandalize war memorials, insult the troops and wreak havoc under the surrender banner?

How many times have you thought to yourself: What can I do?

Here is the answer: Get off the sofa and join the Gathering of Eagles on March 17 in Washington, D.C. On that day, well-funded, celebrity-studded anti-war groups plan to march to the Pentagon on a protest route that will take them past the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and climax in calls for immediate withdrawal of our troops from Iraq, destruction of America's "global military machine," shutdown of the enemy combatant detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay and impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney (plus an end to "colonial occupation" in "Palestine, Haiti and everywhere" for good measure).

Last time the left-wing, peace-loving fun bunch came to town, their minions gone wild threw rocks at a military recruitment office in D.C's Dupont Circle neighborhood and at a local Fox News van, broke through a Capitol Hill police security cordon, spray painted the Capitol Grounds with impunity, desecrated the Lone Sailor statue that stands watch at the U.S. Navy Memorial and reportedly spat at disabled Iraq war veteran Josh Sparling as he voiced his support for his fellow troops.

There were tens of thousands of anti-war demonstrators at that event last month. You know how many showed up with Sparling to counter the far Left? Forty.

Now, imagine our troops getting word of that count. They're walking the talk, committed to the long, hard mission of counterinsurgency in Iraq and abroad, risking life and limb -- and only 40 of their fellow Americans bothered to represent them in the nation's capital?

The Gathering of Eagles, an impromptu coalition of veterans' groups, pro-military organizations and Internet activists, wants to right the wrong. "We are a non-violent, non-confrontational group. We look to defend, not attack. Our focus is guarding our memorials and their grounds," they explain. "We believe in and would give our lives for the precious freedoms found in our Constitution. We believe that our freedom of speech is one of the greatest things our country espouses, and we absolutely hold that any American citizen has the right to express his or her approval or disapproval with any policy, law or action of our nation and her government in a peaceful manner as afforded by the laws of our land."

What the Eagles will not stand for, however, are "violence, vandalism, physical or verbal assaults on our veterans, and the destruction or desecration of our memorials. By defending and honoring these sacred places, we defend and honor those whose blood gave all of us the right to speak as freely as our minds think."

Sgt. Artie Muller, founder of Rolling Thunder, the POW/MIA advocacy group, has called on his 80-plus chartered chapters to turn out. Move America Forward, the grass-roots, non-profit, pro-military charity, is launching a caravan from California March 8 to join the Eagles and will bring flags from across the country for the event. The Nam Knights will be there, too. Bill Devereaux, a member of the South Jersey Viet Nam Vets Association, wrote to tell me he had "appropriated a bus on which 40 of our members will be attending the event."

Daniel McPeters, an Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom veteran, e-mailed that "at least a dozen of my brothers will be attending this vigil of necessity and representing those not able to be present. This has needed to happen for 30-plus years. Anyone that supports our troops and their cause should try to make it out, or contact their local Veterans post and spread the word. The silent ones need not be silent any more."

Cindy Sheehan has responded to the Eagles by deriding them on the Gold Star Families for Peace website as "Rightest [sic] America Haters" who are "brainwashed and propagandized."

The question isn't, "What can I do to respond to the Sheehanistas?" The question now is, "What will you do?"

Get off the darned sofa and show your support. March 17. Washington, D.C. Find out more at Gathering of Eagles.

[Panjaabi]

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?
America is superpower because every country needs us for all their needs. It would hurt America if we severe relations with rest of the world.

Economy runs on oil which mainly comes from middle east, Russia and Africa. Also, it will mean loosing close to 1 trillion dollars every year from export resulting in closing down of business and millions of jobless people. Majority of US dollars are in foreign reserves ... external debt now is 10 trillion dollars and it would be tough to pay if foreign countries want to cash them.

[jinelson]

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[thedrifter]

March 17th....Gathering of Eagles

This is for North Carolina Gathering of Eagles supporters.

Buses are available from Jacksonville, NC....great work......check out below for details.

To all:

If you have been watching the internet, and read the forwarded emails from everyone, you will have noticed that the "Gathering of Eagles" event is gaining in strength and numbers. But it is no where near the numbers needed to block the Anti-War protestors from getting near the Vietnam War Monuments. Of particular interest to most of us is the Vietnam Memorial Wall, where they are supposed to be massing for their Anti-Bush/Anti War march.

Please join Rolling Thunder NC-5 and several other local Veteran Groups in this endeavor.

Rolling Thunder NC-5 has contracted two (2) deluxe tour buses to make this trip. Our plan is to try and fill both buses and take as many as we can to "reinforce the line" and help protect our monuments against any and all desecration attempted by these anti war protestors. We will not allow a repeat of their actions during their protest march on January 27th.

Please pass this word....

The buses will be leaving from the Rose Brothers Furniture parking lot in Jacksonville, NC at 2200 on March 16th. The plan is to arrive in D.C. early on the 17th, eat breakfast, and then go to the Wall to assemble. After the activities on the 17th, we will return to the buses, and then head home. We will be arriving back in J'Ville late Saturday night. Parking for cars/trucks will be at the large lighted parking lot of Rose Brothers Furniture.

The cost of this trip is $60 each. This includes all costs (parking fees, food for the drivers, and a tip at the end)...the only thing you have to bring is what you need for a 30-hour period!!!! Our Chapter is not interested in making a dollar from anyone...just taking a large crowd to show our support!

We hope that you will help us fill the buses...it's a long trip, but we will ride in comfort and safety.

If you want to join us email me....I'll give you more details!

The web site for this event is www.gatheringofeagles.org .

If you are a Veteran and Patriot, you will join us, and stand shoulder to shoulder to protect our sacred monuments! If you can't join us...PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO SOMEONE YOU KNOW!

Hank Hangsleben
CHangsleben@ec.rr.com
President Rolling ThunderR, Inc. Chapter NC-5

[USMCmailman]

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR ANY U.S. PRESIDENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH?

My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of the Iraq regime has been completed.

Since congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete.

This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning.


Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom , Spain , Bulgaria , Australia , and Poland are some of the countries listed there.

The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the world's nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening.

Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war.

The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hellholes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption.

Need help with a famine ? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France .

In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home . On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth.

Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France , or maybe China .

I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France , Germany , and Russia . Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis.

I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York

A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not ****ing us off for a change.

Mexico is also on List 2 President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am going to put 'em? Yep, border security.

Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty - starting now.

We are tired of the one-way highway. Immediately, we'll be drilling for oil in Alaska - which will take care of this country's oil needs for decades to come. If you're an environmentalist who opposes this decision, I refer you to List 2 above: pick a country and move there. They care.

It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them by saying, "darn tootin."

Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America It is time to eliminate homelessness in America . To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thank you guys. We owe you and we won't forget.

To the nations on List 2, a final thought: You might want to learn to speak Arabic.

God bless America . Thank you and good night.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.

Let's get this to every USA computer!)
THE MOST INTELEGENT THING I HAVE READ SINCE 9/11. !!!!!!!!!!!! If we only had a leader with the bal*s to do it !!!!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

[USMCmailman]

I would love to go , but am unemployed at the moment. Can't afford bail money!!!!!!!!!! :marine: :beer:

[thedrifter]

War memorials not places for protests

To the editor:

On March 17, there will be a protest march in Washington, D.C., to oppose the current War on Terrorism and the current administration. This will be the second such protest this year held in our capital, this time starting at the site of the Vietnam War Memorials.

While I do not try to understand the reasoning of the confused few that do not support the president on this subject, what I do understand is the fact that we must support our troops serving in combat and that they deserve the very best in equipment, material and moral support we can give them from here at home.

While many "high profile" names such as Jane Fonda, Cindy Sheehan, Ed Asner, Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn will be in the nation's capital to lead this anti-war protest march, an open call has been made for veterans and citizens from across this great nation to go to Washington, D.C., to stand shoulder to shoulder with each other and to show our troops serving in the war that there are people that do support their efforts of protecting our freedom here at home. We will counter their protest with a "Gathering of Eagles" (www.gatheringofeagles.org).

The local Chapter of Rolling Thunder, Inc. has answered that call, along with members of the Military Order of the Purple Heart and several other veterans' organizations and clubs from our surrounding community. We have leased two deluxe tour buses to transport our members to Washington, D.C., to stand against these anti-war protestors.

We will be joined by other members from our national organizations as a giant show of support for our brave men and women.

While there were incidents involving red spray paint on the Capitol steps and surrounding areas during the January anti-war protest, our veterans and other members will mass around the Vietnam War Memorials and protect them from desecration if need be.

Our people will be there to protect The Wall, support our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and preserve the honor of those whose names are on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial wall and are honored at the other war memorials. We will keep the honor intact for all those that the memorials stand for. We need to let our troops know we're right here opposing those that oppose them.

If you are interested in joining this show of support for our heroes, we have open seats available on the buses. Contact me through Rolling Thunder Inc., Chapter NC-5, for more information. We will depart for Washington, D.C., on the night of March 16 and return the following night.

Anyone who supports our troops is welcomed to travel with us as long as there are seats available.

Hank Hangsleben
Jacksonville

Editor's note: Hank Hangsleben is president of Rolling Thunder Inc.'s Chapter NC-5. Contact him at: www.rollingthundernc5.com

[thedrifter]

The 'Peace' Brigade vs. The Stryker Brigade
By Michelle Malkin
March 7, 2007

Editor's Note: Michelle Malkin has quoted a comment by a peace activist in the fifth paragraph that could be offensive to some readers.

Last week, I wrote about the Gathering of Eagles -- veterans, active-duty troops, bikers, activists and ordinary citizens coming to Washington, D.C., on March 17 to hold a counter-protest against tens of thousands of anti-war extremists demanding immediate withdrawal of our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

In Washington state this week, the peace brigade held a dress rehearsal at the Port of Tacoma -- where they showed support for our troops by taunting the Stryker Brigade and local police guarding against obstruction of the convoys headed to Iraq. More than 300 Stryker vehicles and other equipment are being moved from Fort Lewis to Iraq in support of the 4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division's upcoming deployment as part of the ongoing "surge" and counterinsurgency efforts. The Strykers are equipped with slat armor to protect the troops from rocket-propelled grenades.

Yes, the same ilk that purport to care so much about the troops not having enough armor and protection stood and jeered at those deploying to bring more protection to their fellow soldiers in Iraq.

Such patriots, aren't they?

Members of the anti-military mob shouted condescendingly at our volunteer soldiers rolling past them: "Free the troops!" "No justice, no peace!" "You don't have to go!" One lunatic with a bullhorn urged Stryker Brigade members to disobey their commanding officers and sneered: "Your sergeant is a douchebag!"

Such patriots, aren't they?

These same bullies staged obstructionist protests at the Port of Olympia in Washington last year -- blocking gates to prevent convoys from passing and attempting to tear down fencing following the arrival of a large military ship bound for Iraq. In April 2003, "peace" protesters waged similar attacks in Oakland, Calif., where they attempted to shut down a port involved in shipping military supplies to soldiers. The Bay Area anti-war brigade set out deliberately and specifically to prevent private businesses from fulfilling their federal contracts with the Department of Defense and U.S. Agency for International Development related to the war and post-war reconstruction in Iraq.

Such patriots, aren't they?

A mother of one of the Tacoma soldiers who rode silently past the spittle-spewers wrote to me earlier this week after seeing anti-war video of the mob scene uploaded on YouTube:

"My son was one of the Stryker soldiers who was moving the equipment to the port that night.

"These people are protesting the shipment of Strykers. Strykers are what keep our infantrymen alive in Iraq. They are agile, strong, and the newest ones have very accurate firepower. Once again, the moonbats say they support our troops, but not the war. They show it by insulting the troops' intelligence, calling their NCOs names, and telling them that they will die for nothing. Nice. I personally like to tell my son that he will come home alive and we will be reunited. These protesters sounded more like spoiled, self-centered, obnoxious brats to me. Yet, at the end of the line, there stand our troops. They are carrying the weight of the free world on their shoulders and they get to hear this mindless drivel before they deploy."

"The last big protest was at the Port of Olympia last year. The moonbats did damage to a fence around a yard that protects military equipment. The Strykers they were protesting that day were Strykers that were equipped with medical intervention equipment. The protesters were marching against medical supplies that our soldiers need desperately, and once again the very equipment that keeps our soldiers alive. It seems that there are two populations of people who hate Strykers: moonbats and insurgents."

Question their patriotism? You bet I do.

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Michelle Malkin is author of "Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild." Her e-mail address is writemalkin@gmail.com.

[10thzodiac]

I see again besides the surge they are talking about more troops now, sounding more like Vietnam ? Army Major General John Batiste this morning said to win, the caveat is that American people must be mobilized first, which would require new leadership. I wonder who is going to replace George Bush that the American people will allow that ?

The war de facto is lost like Vietnam. Bush will go into history's dust bin as the greatest American fuk-up of all time.

The president is just throwing more good lives away one after another like pawns lost trying to save his legacy. Sort of reminds me of what Hitler did when his war was unwindable, at least Hitler had no choice. You [we] have a choice !

[semperfi170]

I believe that they have a right to stage a peace rally. However, not to do damage to public property, particularly the memorials of any type. They should be honoring those that memorials are dedicaed to. How else would they have the right to stage a peace(lol) rally? Their crap is definitely reminescent of the Nam time frame. It wouldn't surprise if Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, murtha, etc. are supporting them both verbally and behind the scenes.

I can only give my moral support and prayers for those of you able to attend and stand up to the idiots. Maybe, if troops (better yet - Marines in full battle gear) were put in place that might scare the crap out of the protesters and help them to behave. Althought National Guard units are doing great in Iraq, we need more disciplined and trained units for this type of duty. I don't feel any sympathy for the Kent Students, but we don't that type of incident to polarize the idiots.

[thedrifter]

Silent No More - The Gathering of Eagles - Part Four
Posted By Blackfive

The Mission Statement of the Gathering of Eagles is below. There is some chatter on the Indymedia and DU sites about defaming the war memorials and beating up veterans. No one loves peace more than a soldier, and the Gathering will be peaceful. The Gathering of Eagles is a defense, not an attack.

I know that a few US Army paratroopers and Marines from the Viet Nam war will be there at the Wall. If there's one thing, aside from love of country, that they share, it's knowing how to fight when surrounded.

1. Gathering of Eagles is non-partisan. While each member has his or her own political beliefs, our common love and respect for America and her heroes is what brings us together.

2. We are a non-violent, non-confrontational group. We look to defend, not attack. Our focus is guarding our memorials and their grounds.

3. We believe that the war memorials are sacred ground; as such, we will not allow them to be desecrated, used as props for political statements, or treated with anything less than the solemn and heartfelt respect they–and the heroes they honor–deserve.

4. We are wholly and forever committed to our brothers and sisters in uniform. As veterans, we understand their incredible and noble sacrifices, made of their own accord for a nation they love more than life itself. As family members, we stand by them, and as Americans, we thank God for them.

5. We believe in and would give our lives for the precious freedoms found in our Constitution. We believe that our freedom of speech is one of the greatest things our country espouses, and we absolutely hold that any American citizen has the right to express his or her approval or disapproval with any policy, law, or action of our nation and her government in a peaceful manner as afforded by the laws of our land.

6. However, we are adamantly opposed to the use of violence, vandalism, physical or verbal assaults on our veterans, and the destruction or desecration of our memorials. By defending and honoring these sacred places, we defend and honor those whose blood gave all of us the right to speak as freely as our minds think.

7. We vehemently oppose the notion that it is possible to “support the troops but not the war.” We are opposed to those groups who would claim support for the troops yet engage in behavior that is demeaning and abusive to the men and women who wear our nation’s uniform.

8. We believe in freedom at all costs, including our own lives. We served to protect the freedoms Americans enjoy, and we agree with Thomas Jefferson’s assertion that “From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

9. We will accept nothing less than total, unqualified victory in the current conflict. Surrender is not an option, nor is defeat.

10. We stand to challenge any group that seeks the destruction of our nation, its founding precepts of liberty and freedom, or those who have given of themselves to secure those things for another generation. We will be silent no more.

Silent no more!

Ellie

[thedrifter]

March 11, 2007
THE WALL
Maj Pain

The Wall

(to Demonstrators)

How much more do you want of us? We wait here in dismay as you plan to disrupt our serenity, your placards screaming of ‘Peace’. Don’t you know there is no war here – only blessed release from the pain and agony of our journey to this hallowed place? Don’t sully it with your anger – do not demean it with your slogans. Here, there is commiseration, not turmoil, solace, not confrontation. Take your anger to those who caused it.

There is no place for it here. We have endured enough. Leave us to commune in harmony with our comrades on both sides of our Wall – those who have passed through, and those who wait to complete the journey. Please do not misunderstand; we may have arrived here as the result of war and violence, but we have transformed this Wall into a place of eternal love. Let our repose remain inviolate for as long as this nation endures. Grant us the peace
you demand.

Ellie

[thedrifter]

Website Sabotage
March 12th, 2007 | Category: Briefings

As you’ve noticed by now, the GOE website has sustained some collateral damage from a professional hack attack on Euphoric Reality, the host of the GOE website. The hack ran a malicious and highly sophisticated script on our server that has corrupted our database and access. We have been working since last night on correcting the problems.

The GOE website is solid, but the forum is down. We hope to have that back up soon. Many of you have emailed us about the forums being down. I don’t have time to answer all the emails personally, so please let this serve as our acknowledgment that we are certainly aware of the situation and working on it.

This is a targeted attack by people who raucously abuse the privileges of free speech, but maliciously target those with whom they don’t agree. They are like cornered rats and are viciously lashing out.

Please bear with us, Eagles. We will prevail.


Having Fun, Leftards???
Euphoric Reality Dot Com
March 11th, 2007

We’ve been hacked. It’s that simple.

Our database is corrupted, our SQL is a bit fried at the moment, and all passwords have been scrambled. As a result, users cannot log into the site. We can’t either. We are using an alternate means to post this article to let our dedicated readers know what’s going on, and why there’s no new content.

We are currently working our redhead butts off to make sure we don’t lose the last 9 months of content.

And to the pus blisters who apparently finally took their hands off their wing-wing long enough to rub two tired, pot-saturated brain cells together and infringe upon our right to free speech, may I just say that I hope you die a horrific death, filled with every manner of sexually transmitted disease known to man. If it’s even possible to get an STD from self-wanging too much. And if the parties responsible for this little escapade plan on being in D.C. next weekend, stop by and say hello, that is if you haven’t rubbed all the skin off your balls from overhandling.

By the way, next time you open that festering, pungent hole in your face you call a mouth to use the word “fascist” in regards to conservatives, just remember who was screwing with whose site today. I hope you choke on your next granola bar.

Ellie

[Stephanie Hicks]

To be able to stop these liberal jackasses peacefully would be nice, but if they touch the Vietnam War Mem., then I think its time they get a good
old-fashioned Marine Corps a**-whippin'!!!::evilgrin:

[thedrifter]

CALL FOR SUPPORT
March 17, 2007 Anti-War Demonstration and
March to the Pentagon to Assemble at the
VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL

ROLLING THUNDER®
MOTORCYCLE RALLY,
WASHINGTON, DC, INC.

www.rtmrwdc.org/upevents.html

[thedrifter]

Getting to the Gathering of Eagles by Metro on Saturday
March 12th, 2007 | Category: Logistics

How do I get to the Gathering of Eagles on Saturday?

Here are some FACTS from the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority to help. (Edited for brevity) Home page: www.wmata.com/default.cfm

The Metro system opens at 0700 on Saturday.

All Metrorail passes are gate-activated. The fare gate activates the pass the first time it is used.

Refer to the information board at the Station Master’s Kiosk how much fare you will need to commute to and from the FARRAGUT WEST Station.

If in doubt, ask the Station Master. The fare ticket machines will accept coins, $1, $5, $10 and $20 bills and credit/debit cards.

Parking at Metro-operated lots is FREE on weekends.

WHERE TO PARK: Gathering of Eagles STRONGLY RECOMMENDS that people arriving Saturday morning in personal vehicles park at a suburban Metro Station and ride the Metro into Washington DC. The nearest Metro Station to the Vietnam Memorial/Constitution Gardens is FARRAGUT WEST Station. Each of the Metro Stations listed below has large commuter parking lots. There is also a Station Master at the booth in each station for information and directions.

Please avoid FOGGY BOTTOM - GWU Station to remain clear of Moonbats

ARRIVING FROM:

NORTH (I-95): Greenbelt Station located off I-495 exit 24. (3 miles east of I-95/I-495 merge) 3,400 spaces.

EAST (US-50): New Carrollton Station located off US-50 exit 6. 3,500 spaces.

SOUTH: (I-95): Franconia - Springfield Station located off I-95 exit 169A, turn right onto Franconia-Springfield Road, Metro station is about 1000 yards on the right. 5,000 spaces

WEST (I-66): Vienna Station located off I-66 near exit 62. 5,800 spaces.

NORTH-WEST (I-70 / I-270): Shady Grove Station, exit 9 from I-270, located at the end of I-370, 5,400 spaces.

There are additional Commuter Parking Lots along all of the METRO lines, the Stations listed above are the outermost on their respective lines. Please refer to the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA) METRO maps and Parking information for location and directions to other stations with commuter parking facilities.

METRO System Map: www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm

METRO Parking: www.wmata.com/metrorail/d...arking.cfm

Ellie

[thedrifter]

'These Colors Don't Run' to hold counterprotest

By Eric Pfeiffer
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
March 13, 2007

A caravan of military family members is driving cross-country to show their continuing support for the troops, culminating in a large pro-troop rally in Washington this weekend.
Calling their effort "These Colors Don't Run," the series of rallies, which was organized by the Move America Forward organization, is making 25 stops before arriving at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Saturday.
"Some politicians don't seem to have the will and fortitude to stand behind our troops when they need us most, and that saddens me," said Deborah Johns, whose son, William, is serving his third tour of duty in Iraq with the Marines.
Members of the caravan say they have collected more than 5,000 U.S. flags since their trip began. The group plans to simultaneously display the flags during the rally, creating what they call a "giant flag city" on the National Mall. Afterward, the flags will be mailed to military service members in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Some of the other groups joining the rally say they have another mission: Protecting the Vietnam memorial from anti-war protesters who will also be marching on the Mall that same day.
"We do not want, nor will we tolerate, a repeat of what happened at the U.S. Capitol," read a statement from Rolling Thunder, a war veterans support organization.
During a January anti-war protest near the Capitol, some anti-war demonstrators spray-painted slogans on the Capitol Steps.
Move America Forward organizer Robert Dixon said the caravan has been well-received during the cross-country road trip.
"There have been a couple hundred people at each stop and more people joining the caravan in each city," he said.
Joseph Williams, whose son, Lance Cpl. Michael Jason Williams, was killed in Iraq in March 2003, said he joined the caravan to support the troops and the continuing mission in Iraq.
"I think the troops have a lot more support today than when I was in Vietnam," Mr. Williams said. "The majority of people are very supportive."
Mr. Williams said he thinks President Bush will resist the urge to withdraw American forces from Iraq despite growing public impatience with the war. "I think he'll see it through. He doesn't seem to be caving in to the pressure."
Another caravan participant said the group wants "to remind people that it's not about the cost of war, it's about the cost of freedom."
Deborah Argel Bastian's son, Air Force Capt. Derek Argel, was killed in Iraq during his second tour of duty on Memorial Day in 2005.
In addition to supporting the troops, Mrs. Bastian said the trip has been beneficial for her because of the opportunity it provides to bond with other military family members who have lost loved ones in the war.
"It's a trip I've really wanted to go on," she said.

[yellowwing]

Joseph Williams, whose son, Lance Cpl. Michael Jason Williams, was killed in Iraq in March 2003, said he joined the caravan to support the troops and the continuing mission in Iraq.
That is powerful. Yes, let him speak, let him be heard by America.

[thedrifter]

No longer in Marines, but still fighting for U.S.

TOM KNOTT (METRO)
By Tom Knott
March 15, 2007

Jaime L. Benavides will be among the former Marines seeking to protect the Vietnam Veterans Memorial from the anti-war nut jobs this Saturday.

Mr. Benavides, who served in the Marine Corps for nearly 18 years, understands there is a disconnect between those who espouse peace but sometimes employ destruction and mayhem to amplify their message.

"We will have 16 Marines doing shifts all through the night Friday and into Saturday so nobody tries to deface the memorial," Mr. Benavides said.

A group called Act Now to Stop War and End Racism is among the organizers behind the march on the Pentagon. The organizers plan to assemble at Constitution Gardens hard by the Mall in the morning hours before starting their march about noon.

The threat of disturbances between those on opposite sides of the political aisle is genuine.

"I'm too old to be putting up my fists," said Mr. Benavides, 42. "I am concerned about [violence]. You just never know."

Mr. Benavides, a first-generation American of Mexican descent, has a deep love of his country and the brotherhood of the Marines. He dismisses the "we-support-the-troops-but-not-the-war" mantra of the loony left.

"I'm really glad we live in a country where you can gather to express dissent," Mr. Benavides said. "But I don't think this [march] helps at all. Our enemy sees it as a victory for them.

Our job is to change the hearts and minds of the Middle East.

But instead, our enemy is changing our hearts and minds, at least the hearts and minds of some of our citizens, which only makes the job that much more difficult for our troops." That elementary proposition eludes the intellectual capacity of the blame-America-first crowd.

"I just think there is an element of complacency in America today," Mr. Benavides said. "The demonstrators' idea of sacrifice is to check in at Marriott, march for eight hours and then stop at Starbucks to call it a day. They don't seem to grasp that liberty is not free. They are able to march on the Pentagon only because of the blood of previous generations."

Mr. Benavides' grandfather served in the Army, which is how he gained his American citizenship. Mr. Benavides grew up in the hardscrabble area of South Texas before enlisting in the Marines and securing his piece of the American dream.

The Silver Spring resident, husband of Amy and father of 7-year-old Nicolas knows there is no greater gift than being born in America. As an immigration officer with the Department of Homeland Security, Mr. Benavides hears the heart-wrenching tales of those desperate to live in this country, legally or otherwise.

Mr. Benavides tells of the groundswell of support he has found on the Together We Served Web site of former Marines planning to take off from work and travel to the District from places all across America.

If it is important for Cindy Sheehan and the rest of the "Night of the Living Dead" crowd to be heard yet again, it is equally important that voices such as Mr. Benavides' be heard as well.

He does not treat the freedoms and opportunities of America lightly. He knows he is where he is not just because of his persistence and initiative but because of the sacrifices of his grandfather and the advantages of being in this country.

And he does support the troops, as only a former Marine could.

No insulting qualifier is necessary.

Mr. Benavides plans to pick up his son tomorrow evening and head to the Walter Reed Army Medical Center to personally thank the troops. This is in contrast to the Code Pink ninnies who "support" our troops each Friday evening by imploring that they be brought home now. They don't seem to understand how this declaration might offend an injured soldier.

Mr. Benavides has no agenda other than to truly thank those who are merely following the orders of their higher-ups.
His is a noble sentiment grounded in the military experience the pillow-soft demonstrators cannot possibly grasp.

Ellie

[thedrifter]

Road trippin' to D.C. <br />
<br />
Posted: March 16, 2007 <br />
1:00 a.m. Eastern <br />
<br />
For the past seven days, there's been a push by patriotic Americans to rally the public to stand behind the men and women serving...

[thedrifter]

Guardians of the Vietnam Wall
by Lt. Col. Ray Funderburk

Posted: 03/16/2007
Tomorrow, with many of my comrades, I will stand guard at the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington, D.C. We will stand there quietly, conducting ourselves with the dignity and honor that the memorial deserves, for all the friends we left behind in Vietnam. We come there to guard the wall against demonstrators who come to protest the Iraq War and who reportedly want to deface the wall as some of them painted the steps of the U.S. Capitol in another demonstration this year. We will peacefully stand guard between them and the memorial on which the names of so many of our friends and relatives are etched. Let me tell you why.

After a savage battle one day in the Mekong Delta, I had to crawl over a mound of dying and dead Viet Cong to get back to my landing craft. The crawl over bloody bodies didn't have an impact on my feelings. But, when I reached the landing craft and saw six body bags with young soldiers inside, I couldn't help myself. I broke down and cried, unashamedly.

That fateful day I promised those young men in those black plastic bags I would tell their story to the world, the story of their sacrifice. Since then, as a journalist, I have tried to relate to the world what Vietnam was like, but have failed miserably because you cannot put into words the emotions -- the fear, the loneliness, the disgust, the horror -- all the emotions you gather in combat.

It was 40 years before I could visit the Vietnam Wall. I worked in the Pentagon, traveled through D.C. many times, but couldn't bring myself to visit the shrine where all my dead comrades are named. You see, I promised to tell their stories, but it's difficult. I try, but few listen. I write, but few read. I couldn't bear to visit them and have them ask why I haven't told their story to the world.

So, I continue to write.

A few years ago, I became a member of the Military Order of the Purple Heart (MOPH), an organization of 40,000 combat wounded veterans. One must have received a Purple Heart to become a member. It is the only veterans service organization comprised totally of combat wounded.

After a few months, I was asked if I would serve as their national public relations director. Having been a television reporter, editor of three newspapers and two magazines -- including Infantry -- I accepted.

My life is now more fulfilling because I have the opportunity to tell the stories of our brave warriors who fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. I work seven days a week telling those stories to the public in print, radio and television.

Recently, I was appointed to the board of directors of the newly created Purple Heart Hall of Honor in New Windsor, N.Y. I am excited about that opportunity because we will be able to tell the individual stories of our combat warriors through video interviews accomplished by those who fought on foreign shores.

We, who shed our blood on the world's battlefields, are brothers all. When we came back from Vietnam, we were dishonored. Now, with the Gathering of Eagles and the proud display of patriotism being shown by so many wonderful veterans, perhaps we can finally say, "Welcome home, brother."

I look at those names on the wall and think of the men and boys that went to war and returned in a box. I touch each name and tell them I'm sorry they had to die. And, as I touch each name carved on that black stone, I cry inside.

They didn't want to die, they wanted to come home and have life, a family. They had plans, loved ones, friends, dogs, a garden, an old car to fix up.

In Vietnam three decades ago, he looked in my eyes as he was dying. I was holding him close, his body ripped open, his blood staining my fatigues. His blue eyes were beginning to glaze over as he whispered, blood trickling from the corner of his lips.

"Please, sir, tell my why I have to die? I don't want to die, but I need to know why?" his voice a rasp as he took his last breath.

My throat was constricted, tight, too tight to reply. Tears welled up in my eyes as he faded away, his blue eyes remaining open, never to see home again.

He was placed in a black, plastic body bag. A youngster from Kansas, Ohio, Louisiana, New York, California, Nebraska -- from somewhere.

I made a vow that day, that fateful day, when I gently put him down. I vowed I would tell his story and every boy's story, the story of what they did, how they died and try to reason why.

I cannot find an answer. As I walk along the sidewalk littered with flowers and photos, reading the names, I still cannot answer and tell them what I promised I would tell the world. Maybe one day when I become one of those names I will meet them again and we can talk about why we had to die. Meanwhile, I will guard the wall that honors his name.

Ellie

[Phantom Blooper]

Christians Gather in D.C. to Protest War <br />
By SARAH KARUSH (Associated Press Writer) <br />
From Associated Press <br />
March 17, 2007 9:52 AM EDT <br />
WASHINGTON - Thousands of Christians prayed for peace at an...

[thedrifter]

March 13, 2007

Make a difference!

On Saturday, March 17 -- St. Patrick's Day -- there is a march planned in Washington, D.C., that has nothing whatsoever to do with Blessed Patrick.
Instead, as reported by columnist Michelle Malkin: "On that day, well-funded celebrity-studded anti-war groups plan to march to the Pentagon, on a protest route that will take them past the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and climax in calls for immediate withdraws of our troops from Iraq, destruction of America's global military machine, shutdown of the enemy combatant detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay and impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney (plus an end to 'colonial occupation' in Palestine, Haiti and everywhere 'for good measure')."
The last time this anti-war mob assembled in our nation's capital:

Rocks were thrown at a military recruitment station near DuPont Circle -- and at a Fox News van.
This mob broke through a Capitol Hill police security line and spray-painted the U.S. Capitol building.
The Lone Sailor at the U.S. Navy Memorial was desecrated.
Disabled Iraqi war veteran Josh Sparling, as he expressed his support for his fellow troops in Iraq, was spat upon by demonstrators.
Since there were tens of thousands of such detestables versus only 40 who supported Sparling, there has been organized a counter-protest called The Gathering of Eagles.
http://www.gatheringofeagles.org/

Comprised of veterans, pro-military organizations and Internet activists, the group's leaders have issued the following statement:
"We are a non-violent, non-confrontational group. ... Our focus is guarding our memorials and their grounds. We believe that freedom of speech is one of the greatest things our country espouses. ...
"We will not stand for violence, vandalism, physical or verbal assaults on our veterans, or destruction or desecration of our memorials. ..."
Sgt. Artie Muller, founder of Rolling Thunder, the POW/MIA advocacy group, has called upon 80-plus chapters of this organization to turn out. Move America Forward launched a caravan from California on March 8.
Other groups include the Nam Knights and Vietnam Vets Association. Veterans of Iraq will be joining as well.
This has evoked what should be considered the valuable denunciation from the incredible Cindy Sheehan, who, on her "Gold Star Families for Peace" website, called all these veterans: "RIGHTEST (not Rightist, but Rightest) AMERICA HATERS."
I hope that thousands of my fellow veterans of World War II and Korea will join the Gathering of Eagles in protecting our war memorials from the Capitol gathering.

[thedrifter]

Rousing, Emotional Start for War Protest
Arrests Made at White House; Storm Might Trim Weekend Turnout

By Steve Vogel and Clarence Williams
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, March 17, 2007; B01

Dozens of demonstrators, many of them Christian peace activists, were arrested outside the White House late last night and early this morning as part of a protest against the war in Iraq.

About 11:30 p.m., police began handcuffing the first of about 100 protesters who had assembled on the White House sidewalk to pray in a planned act of civil disobedience.

The protesters were part of a larger group that had assembled at the Washington National Cathedral for a service on the fourth anniversary of the start of the war. From the service, demonstrators marched through the wind, cold and dampness to the White House.

The demonstration began a weekend of protest that is to include a march on the Pentagon today. Last night's event, which was sponsored by more than two dozen religious groups, was not part of today's antiwar rally at the Pentagon.

Those who were arrested had been among almost 3,000 people who assembled at the cathedral at 7 p.m. for a rousing, emotional service that lasted more than 90 minutes.

Participants, whom the cathedral staff numbered at 2,825, heard speakers including Celeste Zappala of Philadelphia, whose son was killed in Iraq in 2004.

"I am here tonight as a witness to the true cost of war," she said, "the betrayal and madness that is the war in Iraq."

"We lay before God the sorrow that lives in all of us because of the war," she said.

Last night's procession was sponsored by Christian Peace Witness for Iraq.

Meanwhile, organizers of the march on the Pentagon expressed concern that the storm hitting the Northeast might affect turnout.

Protest leaders said they still expect tens of thousands of people for the march, which will begin at 12:30 p.m. north of the Lincoln Memorial and cross the Arlington Memorial Bridge to the Pentagon's north parking lot for a rally. Organizers are tying the protest to the 40th anniversary of the 1967 march on the Pentagon against the Vietnam War, saying it represents similar public anger.

Airlines canceled many flights in the Northeast yesterday, and driving conditions were poor. Organizers said many contingents from some of the hardest-hit areas, including New England and New York, are scheduled to travel in bus and car caravans.

"They are doing everything possible to continue to come," said Brian Becker, national coordinator for the ANSWER Coalition, the march's main sponsor.

Other contingents are coming from such places as New Orleans, Tucson, Houston, Salt Lake City and Florida and California, organizers said.

Yesterday's cold rain did not stop a small group of people from gathering on the sodden, muddy ground of the Mall's Constitution Gardens to preview their countermarch activities.

Members of the Gathering of Eagles group said they plan to voice support for the war and for the troops in Iraq and make sure that the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, near the war protest's starting place, is not desecrated. Antiwar demonstrators said that they, too, respect the memorial.

Organizers with Gathering of Eagles said they also will demonstrate against the protest along the march route. Many with Gathering of Eagles are Vietnam veterans or relatives of soldiers killed in Iraq.

"I've got some friends over there," said Rod Linkous of El Paso, gesturing toward the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. He served two tours in Vietnam in the 1960s and '70s.

"We defended their right to say whatever they want," Linkous, 59, said of war protesters past and present. "They have the freedom of speech. We gave that freedom by fighting and dying for it."

The rain prompted organizers of the war protest to move a news conference scheduled for their assembly grounds at 23rd Street and Constitution Avenue to George Washington University Law School.

Speakers, including the parents of a Marine killed in Iraq, denounced the war and called for the impeachment of President Bush.

Mike Marceau, a disabled Army veteran who served in Vietnam and is vice president of the D.C. chapter of Veterans for Peace, criticized the administration over recent reports of poor conditions at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

"That is unconscionable, and we can't allow that to happen," said Marceau, who said he spent eight months at Walter Reed during 1970 and 1971 recuperating from wounds. "It's time to stop spending money on hurting people and start spending money on healing people."

Carlos Arredondo, who brought to the podium the boots his son Alex wore before he was killed in Iraq in 2004, said the march will honor service members and others who have died in the war. He echoed Marceau's comments about Walter Reed: "The veterans deserve much better."

Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson said Bush and Vice President Cheney should be removed from office for what he described as crimes against the Constitution.

Eugene Puryear, a student at Howard University who has coordinated the participation of college students from across the country, predicted a large showing of youths. We're seeing new people, new energy, new blood," Puryear said. "People who never have been to a demonstration before are now organizing buses."

Staff writers Michael E. Ruane and Martin Weil contributed to this report.

Ellie

[yellowwing]

All of you Marines there right now, Good Bless and Take Care! :usmc:

[thedrifter]

This just came in from Comsmith. Great job!

The gathering started before 0700 and continued till after noon. The highest estimated count was apx 30K vets and supporters just in the vicinity of the Wall. The Wall was secured by the beginning of the "Pinkos Rally by a inner-perimeter of 20-25 DC police officers. There was a 4 foot fence at the edge of the police perimeter and a second perimeter fence or walkway with eagles. The exterior walkways and sidewalk ways were covered by eagles 2 to 3 deep and surrounding the entire Wall. Access to the Wall was restricted to individuals with eagles markings or the appearance of the Wall defenders ... everyone was searched and no signs were permitted... only flags... thousands of vets and supporters were paying respects...

when the Pinkos made the transition from their rally point to the Answer rally point adjacent to the Lincoln Memorial they had to run a gauntlet of eagles and were shouted down... at the first sign of any trouble the DC police were there... to immediately separate and disperse the Pinkos...

The DC police had as many as 40 Harley mounted officers 2 groups of 10 to 12 officers on smaller Hondas, and 20 to 25 horse mounted officers in the wall and Lincoln Memorial areas with another 40 to 50 foot officers

There was an early altercation at the Lincoln Memorial which was rapidly (20-30 seconds) eliminated...

From the contacts I had with folks there was between 300 to 500 eagles at the WWII, Korea, Iwo Jima and other Military memorials around town...

The younger and eagles in better shape continued to follow the Sheehan anti-American Pinkos across the Bridge and on their way to The Pentagon... once the Pinkos left, the basic rally, now at about 35-40K, and many thousands of the eagles, retired to a stand at the Pentagon.

From a vantage point across the street I had, I could see the arrival of many bus loads of anti-America protesters...

There were busses with children in their teens ... ten- teen ,eleven- teen ,twelve-teen … these kids were in or just out of grade school and in Jr high... there 2 buses with 35 to 50 per bus...

Then there was the buses with the occupants you could smell before they got off the bus good... these folks were from the homeless shelter they had to be … there were 4 buses of these folks ... ... and the real kicker was the bus with kids from the sheltered work shops... 2 buses with a "mentally challenged and their teen-aged escort... now all of these folks were handed signs when they got off the bus...

The Pinkos started out at about 2,500 and slowly grew to 10 -12 thousand people...

I will get more to you later as this is public access computer and other folks want to use... and will get to you later...

take care we done goood ...

Ellie

[thedrifter]

Thousands protest as war enters 5th year

By LARRY MARGASAK and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers


Denouncing a conflict entering its fifth year, protesters raised their voices Saturday against U.S. policy in Iraq and marched by the thousands to the Pentagon in the footsteps of an epic demonstration four decades ago against another divisive war.

A counterprotest shadowed the anti-war crowd on a day of dueling signs and sentiments such as "Illegal Combat" and "Peace Through Strength," and songs like "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "War (What's It Good For?)."

Thousands crossed the Memorial Bridge over the Potomac River from the Lincoln Memorial to rally as close to the Pentagon as they could get. Smaller protests were organized across the country and held abroad, stretching to Tuesday's four-year anniversary of the Iraq invasion.

"Too many people have died and it doesn't solve anything," said Ann O'Grady, who drove through snow with her husband, Tom, and two children, 13 and 10, from Athens, Ohio. "I feel bad carrying out my daily activities while people are suffering, Americans and Iraqis."

Retired Marine Jeff Carroll, 47, an electrician in Milton, Del., held a sign saying: "Proud of our soldiers, ashamed of our president." Carroll said he served in Lebanon when the Marine barracks was bombed in a deadly attack in 1983, and thinks the U.S. should be focusing on Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden instead of Iraq. "We're fighting the wrong country."

Police on horseback and foot separated the two groups of demonstrators, who shouted at each other from opposite sides of Constitution Avenue in view of the Lincoln Memorial before the anti-war group marched. Barriers also kept them apart.

Protesters walked in a blustery, cold wind across the Potomac River with motorcycles clearing their way and police boats and helicopters watching.

The anti-war group carried signs saying "U.S. Out of Iraq Now," "Stop Iraq War, No Iran War, Impeach." The other side carried signs saying "al-Qaida Appeasers On Parade" and "Fight Jihad Not GIs."

Protesters met at the starting point of the Oct. 21, 1967, march on the Pentagon, which began peacefully but turned ugly in clashes between authorities and more radical elements of the estimated crowd of 50,000 on the plaza in front of the Defense Department's headquarters. More than 600 were arrested that day.

That protest has lived on in the popular imagination because of the crowd's attempts to lift the Pentagon off the ground with their chants; they fell short of their fanciful goal.

Organizers of the Saturday protest did not anticipate numbers comparable to those of the Vietnam era. Authorities no longer give crowd estimates publicly.

Veterans, some from the Rolling Thunder motorcycle group, lined up at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and waved U.S, POW-MIA and military-unit flags. Not all were committed to the U.S. course in Iraq, however.

"I'm not sure I'm in support of the war," said William "Skip" Publicover of Charleston, S.C., who was a swift boat gunner in Vietnam and lost two friends whose names are etched on the memorial's wall. "I learned in Vietnam that it's difficult if not impossible to win the hearts and minds of the people."

But Larry Stimeling, 57, a Vietnam veteran from Morton, Ill., said the loss of public support for the Iraq war mirrors what happened in Vietnam and leaves troops without the backing they need.

"We didn't lose the war in Vietnam, we lost it right here on this same ground," he said, pointing to the grass on the National Mall. "It's the same thing now."

Henry Sowell, 22, Raleigh N.C., who fought with the Marines in Iraq in 2005, asserted that anti-war protesters were "taking away what my buddies died for and what I fought for."

Some active-duty service members joined the anti-war protest, following rules that allow them to demonstrate but limit what they can say.

Speaking into a microphone hooked to massive speakers, Petty Officer Jonathan Hutto, who is on active duty with the Navy, told the crowd that the people had voted against the war in the November elections and "we're here to cash the check."

Rallies also were planned in Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, Oklahoma City, Hartford, Conn., and Lincoln, Neb.

Overseas, more than 3,000 people protested peacefully in Istanbul, Turkey, and about 1,000 in Athens, Greece.

___

Associated Press writers Matthew Barakat and Ann Sanner contributed to this report.

Ellie

[jinelson]

by 10thzodiac - Obvious To Me

Our troops COMPLETED the mission A LONG TIME AGO, they were sent to depose of Saddam, to find out if there were WMD’s, AND THAT IS IT !

they are NOT a free Iraqi police force, they are NOT escorts, they are NOT builders of schools, they are NOT an occupying force.

What’s left is POLITICAL, it is NOT military and ANYONE that thinks keeping our troops doing politician’s work are the people that are not supporting our troops.

10thzodiac you need to chug a bottle of this and calm down think straight!

Bottoms Up

Jim :D


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[Sgt Leprechaun]

Too bad MPDC didn't set up miniguns and 50 cals as a perimeter. One can dream tho.

I don't think the lefties liked the fact that the 'counter' protestors outnumbered them this time. Too bad they didn't try to 'rush' the line...if they would have had any stones, they would have...lol

[yellowwing]

Yes, the news articles I scanned yesterday were hazy at best mentioning the number of Veterans. The were quick to point out the leathers worn by Rolling Thunder. It made better news copy than the ordinary dress and fire in the hearts of the others.

[10thzodiac]

Jim, a good friend of mine who protested in DC has medals that most Marines would throw theirs away to have his. His infantry unit was over-run in Vietnam. The battles he participated in: CON THIEN,...

[cplbrooks]

Click on the link to see House Dems explain their plan on Iraq?

http://www.gop.com/media/mplayer/calendarwebad.wmv

Any questions??

[Marine84]

I've seen a lot of pics from this event and I'm glad it turned out like it did. I think the point was made - have heard that some kids (that didn't REALLY know what to believe in in the first place) moved to the other side after they saw and heard everything going on. That's AWESOME!

Everybody that got to go did the rest of us proud - none of you landed in jail, which is a good thing. I REALLY wish I could have been there to see it for myself - especially when I saw Cynthia McKinney's stupid a$$ up there blah, blah, blahing away. I didn't see very much on the news about it and what WAS shown showed their side and maybe a side glance at the Eagles. That's OK..............I knew ya'll were there.

Semper Fi!

[Sgt Leprechaun]

10Z, did any of the esteemed Generals you quote show up at the protest?

My guess is, they didn't. They have every right to question, complain, and editorialize. They earned it. However, it would appear they have enough sense to stay away from the anti-war surrender monkey crowd that is ALWAYS at these things. Surely, your buddy, the guy with all the medals, isn't a member of International ANSWER, Code PINK, or the other hard core left wing nutburger units that set this whole thing up, is he?

I guess, looking at it from my point of view with this, that those who were there are either:

Active supporters of Socialism, Communism, and the other various and sundry left wing causes,

or,

Dupes of the above.

Either way, not a group I'd want to be associated with. But, quite frankly, the ones that scare me are the dupes. They are kinda like sheep. Just goin where the herd goes.

[10thzodiac]

Sgt Leprechaun, my buddy is a proud member of the VVAW

He will be in back Vietnam next month, he can't forget...

I sincerely hope no one is intentionally trying to insult the average readers intelligence here with pinko rhetoric distracting or attempting to nullify what the "esteemed Generals", said in my earlier post #129

There are enough dupes in this word as it is !

SF

10thz

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: I WAS INVITED BY A NEIGHBOR,WHO IS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER;UP THE ROAD.SHE ASKED IF I WOULD COME TO HER HISTORY CLASS AND ANSWER SOME QUESTION'S PRETAINING TO WAR. I THOUGHT A'BOUT IT FOR ABOUT 10 DAY'S. I WENT WITHOUT ANY GAME PLAN,BUT WHAT I CONSIDER BEING THE TRUTH; MY HEART. WHEN I WALKED IN EVERYONE OF THE KID'S STOOD UP,AND CLAPPED;THAT WAS MY WELCOME HOME AFTER 40 YR'S!I'VE NEVER DRANK ANY CHIT THAT MADE ME THAT HIGH,AS WHAT THOSE KID'S GAVE ME THAT DAY!!!'NUFF, SAID; I STILL GET CHOKED UP.:usmc: :iwo:SEMPER~FIDELIS

[OLE SARG]

bones pelosi makes me puke when I look at her crooked-assed face - THE DEMOS have no ****ing plan other than CUT AND ****ING RUN --- even pseudo-hero john fonda kerry was on TV "EXPLAINING" what the demos were going to do, CUT AND ****ING RUN ---- it is hard to believe kerry spent three months in Vietnam, with his camera crew, sustained some major elephant grass cuts, shot a VC in the ****ing back, and HE'S A ****ING KNOW-EVERYTHING MF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He deserves to be SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Opinions are like *******s, everybody has one and you are going to find that everyone has a different spin on Iraq. demos, the key to WINNING is not CUTTING AND ****ING RUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[hmckinley]

When reading post's on a thread, I take everyone in consideration as to their thought's. The freaking general's, excluding Chesty Puller, are no more than a private when they have done their time, stay the flux out of the media and if they wan't to change anything, run for office and "get ur done".
Let us all remember ole hitler, wanted to end a religion and damn sure did by exterminating them by the millions. Got one in Iran and did have one Iraq, have one in venezuela, one in cuba. Wish I could have been at the demonstration and I would like to thank everyone who went, I was there with you mentally. "God Bless America", srcew the other dud that and the one's that make fun and hate us. I hope the demonstrator's, the know it all's get the first dose of what's coming, they had better see the light at the end of the tunnel and wake the flux up and start supporting us and those that are fighting the war on terror. Remember 911 towel head's for america seem's to have forgotten.
I seem to remember a little saying that we all remember well, " PAY BACK IS A MUTA FERUCK" and GOD bless those young and old in the military over there getting it done on their door steps instead of our's. Semper Fi!!

[OOHRAHMOM05]

The following piece of tripe was tacked onto an article about the terrorists using chlorine bombs against the people of Iraq:

My Way Mid East News
Mar 17, 9:07 PM (ET) By Kim Gamel

Protesters angry about U.S. policy in Iraq marched by the thousands in Washington and in smaller numbers in other U.S. cities and overseas ahead of Tuesday's four-year anniversary of the Iraq invasion.
"Too many people have died and it doesn't solve anything," said Ann Bonner, who drove to Washington through snow with her family from Ohio. "I feel bad carrying out my daily activities while people are suffering, Americans and Iraqis." Copyright 2007 Associated Press

No surprise this one is from the Ass. Press.
Ms Bonner, who gives Ohioans, Americans, females, and humans a bad name with her oh-so-eloquent statement about why she joined the other losers protesting in DC, must've forgotten how bad it felt to be carrying out our daily activities while over 3,000 people suffered and died in our country on 9-11-01. Or how she felt when she found out about the suffering Hussein was inflicting on his people for over 25 years while we went on our mostly oblivious, merry way. I wonder how she will feel if their suffering under tyranny begins again~ which it will, if our troops pull out before the people of Iraq and Afghanistan are ready. I hope she will feel really "bad" and totally responsible, if it comes to that, because she should. Not just because she has her head up her arse, but because she refuses to pull it out and listen to the truth.

[OOHRAHMOM05]

:sick:

[yellowwing]

That's the only thing that bothers me about March 17th, the overseas protests. We need those folks to shore up troops in Afghanistan this Spring. Those leaders are more politically vulnerable than we are.

The Iraqis are slowly shaping up to fight on their own, but I've heard nothing about the Aghanis standing on their own.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

What a shocker that she is a twit.

[10thzodiac]

That's the only thing that bothers me about March 17th, the overseas protests. We need those folks to shore up troops in Afghanistan this Spring. Those leaders are more politically vulnerable than we are.

The Iraqis are slowly shaping up to fight on their own, but I've heard nothing about the Aghanis standing on their own.

On last nights news, military experts are saying this war can only be won though political means between the Iraqi factions themselves. In the meantime it will be a grind for the next two years, then after one generation [30 years] of occupation [bad word] and 50-60,000 troops to maintain stability during that time.

The Iraq war has cost 539 Billion to find no weapons of mass destruction.

In hindsight like General Butler was talking about in 1935 in his book "War is a Racket", I too wonder if that money would of been better used to "secure our borders so tight that a rat couldn't even crawl though" ~ General Butler

Just think, no terrorist entering the country, no millions of illegals and best of all no dope dealers poisoning our children.

Does anyone really believe General Butler and I are all wet, and W and the democrats too, have it right ?

SF

10thzodiac

[rktect3j]

On last nights news, military experts are saying this war can only be won though political means between the Iraqi factions themselves. In the meantime it will be a grind for the next two years, then after one generation [30 years] of occupation [bad word] and 50-60,000 troops to maintain stability during that time.

The Iraq war has cost 539 Billion to find no weapons of mass destruction.

In hindsight like General Butler was talking about in 1935 in his book "War is a Racket", I too wonder if that money would of been better used to "secure our borders so tight that a rat couldn't even crawl though" ~ General Butler

Just think, no terrorist entering the country, no millions of illegals and best of all no dope dealers poisoning our children.

Does anyone really believe General Butler and I are all wet and W and the democrats too, have it right ?

SF

10thzodiac
I believe you would have to first read the book. As I have been informed by you, you have only read one book and this one is not the one. Go read the book and then make a more enlightened opinion please. Otherwise I find it very difficult to want to even read through your ramblings as I have only glossed over this one.

[10thzodiac]

I believe you would have to first read the book. As I have been informed by you, you have only read one book and this one is not the one. Go read the book and then make a more enlightened opinion please. Otherwise I find it very difficult to want to even read through your ramblings as I have only glossed over this one.

My, my, sounds like 'sour grapes' to me, I'm sorry that your disdain for me affects your judgment.

Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open ! Conversely borders do not work that way, agreed ?

SF

10thzodiac

[rktect3j]

My, my, sounds like 'sour grapes' to me, I'm sorry that your disdain for me affects your judgment.

Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open ! Conversely borders do not work that way, agreed ?

SF

10thzodiac

I'm not really trying to bust your balls 10th. But in another thread you told me that you refused to read a book I suggested and then PM'd me that you have only read one book "the old man and the sea". Now you tell me to keep an open mind and to read that which you have clearly not read in order to glean a bit of knowledge you couldn't possibly possess.

How do you logic your way through that?

You seem to be confused about the way in which common courtesy works. My father used to tell me "Do as I say, not as I do." You ain't my father so it just isn't going to fly here.

[10thzodiac]

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I'm not really trying to bust your balls 10th.

ROFLMAO, you could of fooled me http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/18.gif

But in another thread you told me that you refused to read a book I suggested and then PM'd me that you have only read one book "the old man and the sea".

True: Books bore me to death per se; sign of lack of intelligence, maybe ? I'd like to think though I have enough common sense to make up for any yadda, yadda most authors bore me to to fcuking death with.

Now you tell me to keep an open mind and to read that which you have clearly not read in order to glean a bit of knowledge you couldn't possibly possess.

How do you logic your way through that?

Yes, why don't we keep an open mind, I have read General Smedley's book, "War is a Racket", it didn't bore me. What, say you now ?

You seem to be confused about the way in which common courtesy works. My father used to tell me "Do as I say, not as I do." You ain't my father so it just isn't going to fly here.

First "common courtesy" means that you do not violate the word private as in PM (Private Messages), not that I'm ashamed that you posted I'm not a schollary book worm; at least my father didn't raise worms.



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[yellowwing]

Well hey 10thZ, we are warriors. That is what we do. If its a good war or a bad war, we are front an center. That's just what we do.

[10thzodiac]

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[yellowwing]

Yes, define Good War.

[10thzodiac]

Yes, define Good War.

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[OOHRAHMOM05]

“See that our Congress writes into law a command that no American soldier, sailor or Marine be used for any purpose except to protect the coastline of the United States, and protect his home-and I mean, his home-not an oil well in Iraq - in short, not an American investment anywhere except at home! . . . Let Congress say to all foreign investors: “Come on home or let your money stay out of the country-we will not defend it." ~ General Smedley D. Butler

Sorry, Z, I believe if we don't come to the aid of our allies and the oppressed, then we have failed in our responsibility as the greatest free nation on the face of the earth.
Also, we are dependent on our foreign investments, so of course we have to protect them, as well. Wish we weren't, and that we didn't, but it doesn't change reality.

Semper Fi

[rktect3j]

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Well, lieing has gotten you this far in life so might as well finish the game out that way. No sense in trying to change a cats stripes.

[10thzodiac]

Well, lieing has gotten you this far in life so might as well finish the game out that way. No sense in trying to change a cats stripes.

Mama, use to tell me when I was a little teeny weenie baby, "Butchie, don't worry when they are paying attention to you, worry when they don't" http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif

Don't go away mad, just go away http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif

SF

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[rktect3j]

Mama, use to tell me when I was a little teeny weenie baby, "Butchie, don't worry when they are paying attention to you, worry when they don't"



SF


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[10thzodiac]

:p

Brother Joe, have you tried getting a life, it works for me http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif

Semper fi,

Your brother in peace http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

10thz

[rktect3j]

Brother Joe, have you tried getting a life, it works for me http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif

Semper fi,

Your brother in peace http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

10thz
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[10thzodiac]

The truth is still the truth no matter what you want to believe."



I won't argue that "Believing" makes itself !

"From your lips to God's ears."

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