What's wrong with President Bush??????????

[crate78]

What the heck is wrong with President Bush, or his administration, when 55 REPUBLICAN Congressmen sign a letter asking him why two Border Patrol agents are being sent to prison for nothing more than doing their job, and no one in the administration from Bush on down even dignifies their concern with a response?

One of three of the signers that Lou Dobbs interviewed on CNN this evening commented that when Clinton was president, he could call with any question that came to mind, and someone, sometimes Clinton himself, would always return his call with an answer or explanation even if it wasn't what he wanted to hear.

So why doesn't Bush respond to 55 Congressmen of his own party? The only advice I can give Bush is, the First Law of Holes states that when you're in one, stop digging.

My rant for the day.

crate

[greensideout]

What the heck is wrong with President Bush, or his administration, when 55 REPUBLICAN Congressmen sign a letter asking him why two Border Patrol agents are being sent to prison for nothing more than doing their job, and no one in the administration from Bush on down even dignifies their concern with a response?

One of three of the signers that Lou Dobbs interviewed on CNN this evening commented that when Clinton was president, he could call with any question that came to mind, and someone, sometimes Clinton himself, would always return his call with an answer or explanation even if it wasn't what he wanted to hear.

So why doesn't Bush respond to 55 Congressmen of his own party? The only advice I can give Bush is, the First Law of Holes states that when you're in one, stop digging.

My rant for the day.

crate


That's a damn good question! Where is Bush on this one? For that matter, where is he on the boarder invasion?

To ignore the Boarder Agents and the senseless conviction (they deserve a pardon) is no less then to honor the scum sucking drug runner.

[kato811]

check in to the facts of the crime. the guys were shot in the back as they were running away unarmed.

[greensideout]

Good! They were smuggling drugs into this country, the USA. Frig 'em. Let the border patrol do their job.

[crate78]

The question is not guilt or innocence, the question is why won't Bush respond to 55 members of his own party.

crate

[10thzodiac]

What ever happened to what General Butler wanted to do ? "Let's build up a national defense so tight that even a rat couldn't crawl through!"

What do we get, a frigging moron digging a hole and running the country into it.

[greensideout]

Bush runs a tight ship. He is at the helm. He doesn't want to hear any advice from Congress (your voice and representation in government). He will decide the course of the ship even if it is headed into an iceberg.

[jinelson]

Ok so lets all blame Bush for something that never should have even happened to begin with. I sincerely believe that the CIC will pardon these two agents in due course. But this travesty of justice never should have been heard by a judge to begin with. There are many filthy hands in this case and none of them are in the executive branch of the government! Anyone ever heard of the ACLU or Socialist Democratic Party? Lets hear a minority point of view from a guy that says we dont need new immigration laws only a government that will enforce the existing ones.

Jim


www.tancredo.org
Tancredo Labels Border Patrol Imprisonment an Injustice

(WASHINGTON, DC) - Representative Tom Tancredo (R-CO) today said on the former Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean reporting to prison to serve their 23 combined years in prison for shooting Mexican drug smuggler Osvaldo Aldrete Davila in the buttocks.

“If I were in the Oval Office, this travesty would not be taking place,” said Tancredo, Chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus. “Instead, it would be Osvaldo Aldrete Davila serving time for repeatedly smuggling drugs into the United States and violating our border laws.”

Ramos and Compean reported to prison today at 3 p.m. EST after Judge Cardone denied the agent’s request to remain free during the appeals process. Ramos was sentenced to 11 years, while Compean was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Tancredo concluded, “The current administration allowed the use of their resources to track down a drug dealer living in Mexico to testify against our own Border Patrol agents. This injustice should have been stopped well before a presidential pardon was being demanded.”

[greensideout]

I hope that you are right on the pardon Jim. I do however, think that the Pres could have tightened the screws on this case and we would not have Boarder Agents going to jail for doing their job.

[yellowwing]

The Border Agents were also convicted up trying to cover up the shooting (http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/10778157/detail.html).

Maybe the President is asking "Why would these two would try to cover up a shooting?" The Judge and Jury certainly asked that question.

[greensideout]

Likely because of the ROE and all the PC crap!

[3077India]

Bush runs a tight ship. He is at the helm. He doesn't want to hear any advice from Congress (your voice and representation in government). He will decide the course of the ship even if it is headed into an iceberg.President Bush doesn't want to hear advice from anyone especially those who get paid to advise him. He follows his own program and to hell with what the people want.

[DWG]

I can see the problem with the agents' failure to report the shooting, but 11 and 12 years for that? Something more is up that isn't coming out. Why did the drug smugglers' mother even know anyone in the Border Patrol to complain to? Why is it we can find this guy to testify when we can't catch anyone else? Why was this guy allowed to walk when he was caught a SECOND time smuggling drugs? Is his immunity life long? :confused:

And, for Gawd sake, child molesters only get 3-5 years in jail in this country. At least these two guys were doing something productive!! Too many tall trees and short rope going to waste in this country. If we want justice, we may have to do it ourselves!

:mad:

[sdk87to91]

Unfortunatley our country is so liberal minded that the cops cant do their jobs anymore.
The Honorable Mr. Bush cant do anything bold without upsetting the precarious balance he needs to run the country.
It is a fine line he has to tread. Perhaps he needs to get things done right now and thinks he cant take chances.
I fear he will not get anything done as long as he is President because they want him to fail so bad.
Sorry to say but we may need a Democrat President before the country can get back to business. It would likely be an embarasement to them but at least the Dems would put their minds back to work. The way I see it a Republican President would likely inherit their unfounded wrath by default.


How about this solution to the drug smuggling "Eliminate the market, and Legalize Marijuana" Make people take a class and show them what it does to you first then let em at it.

Maybe that is a wild idea but it would likely eliminate the biggest border problem. Let legitimate mexican business men export it to us, tax the hell out of it to pay for more border security.

[killerinstinct]

1. He was shot in the a$$

2. He is now suing the government for his pain and suffering.

Now, here is my take on this situation:

I really must say at this point in time Bush is a biggot. His press release stating how the courts tried the two officers and that's what the courts are for. When I hear this statement it brings to mind when not too long ago he was upset at the courts for ruling in favor of gay marriage and the courts were using it's power to rewrite laws.

I just wonder why don't they send this drug dealor to Guantanomo and keep him away from U.S. law and end this.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: HELL, THEY GAVE MS. KERRY;A MEDAL FOR THAT CHIT!!!:evilgrin:

[maverickmarine]

I can see the problem with the agents' failure to report the shooting, but 11 and 12 years for that? Something more is up that isn't coming out. Why did the drug smugglers' mother even know anyone in the Border Patrol to complain to? Why is it we can find this guy to testify when we can't catch anyone else? Why was this guy allowed to walk when he was caught a SECOND time smuggling drugs? Is his immunity life long? :confused:

And, for Gawd sake, child molesters only get 3-5 years in jail in this country. At least these two guys were doing something productive!! Too many tall trees and short rope going to waste in this country. If we want justice, we may have to do it ourselves!

:mad:


I agree, get a rope!!!!! As to the "how did she even know who to complain to", that is a question we ask here in Austin all the time. You think the people know the number to our customer service line better than they know freakin' 911, you would think it's printed on our ambulances and squad cars, LOL.

[drumcorpssnare]

The problem with Bush is that he was never a U.S. Marine! Otherwise, he would have had those two border patrol agents standing tall in the Oval Office, explaining their poor marksmanship skills!:D
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[DWG]

The problem with Bush is that he was never a U.S. Marine! Otherwise, he would have had those two border patrol agents standing tall in the Oval Office, explaining their poor marksmanship skills!:D
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

I think we need to hire those female security guards from up in Canada that nailed that attempted robber 4 times, one of the shots gave him a partial vasectomy.
Line the border with drug dealers hanging from trees( oh I forgot, scaffolds) and the problem would cease; at least from the tree ornaments!

[drumcorpssnare]

DW- Yeah, that's the ticket! I'd like to take a page from the history of "Vlad the Impaler." With a Marine Corps slant, of course....
I'm told there are thousands and thousands of WW II vintage M-1 Garands, still in Cosmoline; crated.
I say, un-crate all of them, and fix bayonets! Afix steel plates to the top of concrete pylons, and weld the M-1 butt plates to the top of the pylons...bayonets up!
Catch an illegal on this side of the border....give 'em a "bayonet enemma" 'til the point sticks out the top of their skull! And you're right, DW. Just leave 'em there to rot. Rather grim, but it sends a real clear message!

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[DWG]

DW- Yeah, that's the ticket! I'd like to take a page from the history of "Vlad the Impaler." With a Marine Corps slant, of course....
I'm told there are thousands and thousands of WW II vintage M-1 Garands, still in Cosmoline; crated.
I say, un-crate all of them, and fix bayonets! Afix steel plates to the top of concrete pylons, and weld the M-1 butt plates to the top of the pylons...bayonets up!
Catch an illegal on this side of the border....give 'em a "bayonet enemma" 'til the point sticks out the top of their skull! And you're right, DW. Just leave 'em there to rot. Rather grim, but it sends a real clear message!

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

Would you mind terribly if I got one of those Garands for myself before we start the "Visitor Cricifiction Program"? Actually I would hate to see such a noble weapon put to such ignoble use. Can't we just impale them on the lumber we were going to use on the border fence?
:banana: :mad: Welcome to the USA, trespassers!!


ya know if or when sunman sees this he's gonna have a FIT!!

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: THE NATIONAL GUARD TROOP'S,ON THE BORDER;HAVE BEEN (ORDERED) NOT TOO. FIRE BACK, IF FIRED UPON!!! HELL, THEY AREN'T EVEN ISSUED AMMO!!!THAT PLACE SHOULD BE A FREE FIRE ZONE!!!:iwo: S/F 10/4~20/20!!!

[DWG]

:evilgrin: THE NATIONAL GUARD TROOP'S,ON THE BORDER;HAVE BEEN (ORDERED) NOT TOO. FIRE BACK, IF FIRED UPON!!! HELL, THEY AREN'T EVEN ISSUED AMMO!!!THAT PLACE SHOULD BE A FREE FIRE ZONE!!!:iwo: S/F 10/4~20/20!!!

Crap like this is what really makes me wonder why in the hell I waste my time voting. This should be a no brainer no matter what your party is; troops on the border, anybody or anything crosses w/o permission-FIRE IT UP! Then burn what remains and ship the ashes, via air drop, to Mexico City.

[OLE SARG]

Drug smuggler caught for the second time equals not a shot in the ass but one right in the back of the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now watch, this ******* will sue and our liberal ass courts, and pseudo-intellectual judges, will award him his retirement money!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[DWG]

Drug smuggler caught for the second time equals not a shot in the ass but one right in the back of the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now watch, this ******* will sue and our liberal ass courts, and pseudo-intellectual judges, will award him his retirement money!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

Aw hell, OleSarge-you gave away the ending!!
:mad: :(

[greensideout]

Bush says he will take a look at the case.....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2c2933%2c244938%2c00.html

[OLE SARG]

Would have saved a lot of heart-ache if they had just killed the SOB!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[seabag]

20,000,000 illegals in America, here to do 'jobs
We won't do'.

Everyday, 12 Americans die at the hands of illegals-DUI's, murder,etc.
12x365= 4,380 dead Americans per year.

One smuggler shot in the ass.......who cares?

Too bad the Border Agents tried to actually do their jobs....federal employees
should just put in their 20 and retire. Why raise the bar for the next guy?

[3077India]

20,000,000 illegals in America, here to do 'jobs We won't do'.Interesting, Damnocraps make that same assertion, the only problem with that is that there aren't any jobs Americans won't do as long as they can get paid a decent salary to do it.

[yellowwing]

It was a bad shoot. They tried to cover it up and didn't even report it. That doesn't sound like any line of duty of any PD.

And yes the guy is sueing for $5 million.

[DWG]

It was a bad shoot. They tried to cover it up and didn't even report it. That doesn't sound like any line of duty of any PD.

And yes the guy is sueing for $5 million.

Still, 11 and 12 years, respectively? Fire the bastids, don't throw them in jail-the part about bringing a known drug dealer INTO the country to testify against them frosts my a$$. Drug dealers and smugglers should be given the same treatment here that the Chinese and Singapore mete out. 1st offense-DEATH-no 2nd offense!

[OLE SARG]

It might have been a "bad shoot" but to solicite the testamony of a ****head drug dealer who should have been dead is a disgusting!!!!! If anything, the border agents need more firearms training in hitting their target "Center of Mass"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you imagine the **** these guys are going through down there and NO HELP from our federal government.
Probably, a lot of the illegals coming through the fences down there are headed to work for the ****head pelosis in their multi-million dollar hotel!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[hmckinley]

It might have been a "bad shoot" but to solicite the testamony of a ****head drug dealer who should have been dead is a disgusting!!!!! If anything, the border agents need more firearms training in hitting their target "Center of Mass"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can you imagine the **** these guys are going through down there and NO HELP from our federal government.
Probably, a lot of the illegals coming through the fences down there are headed to work for the ****head pelosis in their multi-million dollar hotel!!!!

SEMPER FI,In nam we started the McNamira dream wall. Build one from ocean to gulf on our side of the border, destroy the fence and watch the mine fields work by electronics. (hope this is declassified by now).

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: HELL~SLICK WILLY CLINTON,PARDONED HIS BROTHER;WHO WAS KNOWN AS THE BIGGEST "COCANUT"NORTH OF THE RIO GRANDE!!!AMERICAN JUSTICE~HEY???(LMFAO):evilgrin: 10/4~20/20:iwo:

[Sgt Leprechaun]

While it "may" or "may not" have been a bad shoot, the entire thing has been handled in a **** damn poor manner. This is so typical of our screwed up system, in that we are more concerned with navel gazing and worrying about illegal aliens 'rights' than we are with two guys on the road, at the pointy end of the stick, trying to do their jobs.

I'm personally disgusted with the President over this, and, truth be told, have lost alot of respect I once had. NOT because he won't pardon them, but because he didn't even bother to look at the case until the political pressure has reached the boiling point. I think he's more worried about political correctness, and kissing the hindquarters of the mexican gummint, than he is with his own people.

Folks, sad to say, this is only gonna get worse. :(

[10thzodiac]

He's only worried about his legacy now, "The Worst President in American History !" How many more chances & lives are we going to let him sacrifice so he has a chance to look good ? He was only suppose to be chasing "Number One Priority, Usama bin Ladin." And now he has pret'near all of the Moslem's in the world hating America, while he lets our first defense, the border patrol die on the vine like our brave troops who are still looking for WMD !

[DWG]

He's only worried about his legacy now, "The Worst President in American History !" How many more chances & lives are we going to let him sacrifice so he has a chance to look good ? He was only suppose to be chasing "Number One Priority, Usama bin Ladin." And now he has pret'near all of the Moslem's in the world hating America, while he lets our first defense, the border patrol die on the vine like our brave troops who are still looking for WMD !

I wholly agree about the border and I am totally disgusted with the Bush man over that. However, muslims have hated us long before either Bush was in office. First, take our troops and shut down the border in iraq-let them straighten out whatever the fu*k they want to do. Then bring our troops home and put them in bases along the border,create a DMZ on the Rio Grande and then extend it to the Pacific. Establish a visitor worker program and then start rounding up every other illegal, their families and whoever else is with them and dump them back across the border(irregardless of nationality). Any company guilty of hiring illegals immediately forfeits all its' holdings to the gov. (like the RICO program). No more "baby anchors" for illegals. A child born in this country to illegals is "fruit of the poisonous tree", issue of an illegal act-NOT A CITIZEN!
As long as the memory of slick willy exists, Bush will never be the worst president.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: IT AIN'T OVER TILL THE FAT LADY SING'S!!!A'LOT OF CHIT CAN HAPPEN IN TWO YEAR'S!!!HE CAN FINALLY PULL OUT HIS (VETO-PEN)AND HANDLE ANY CHIT PELOSI~AND HER GANG CAN THROW AT HIM!!!WHO KNOW'S IF THEY BRING OSAMA'S HEAD ON A PLATTER,OR IRAN GET'S NUKED??? HANDLE THE BORDER ISSUE~MAN THAT WOULD FUC-THE HILDABEAST UP!(LOL):)

[bootlace15]

Bush should'nt have to respond,its up to the homeland security to do their job. Bush can only suggest what to do at the borders,its the idiots in congress and the seneate to get it right. As I've already stated,they all suck,vote all the bums out in 08.

Bootlace15 out

[Fox 2/23]

howdie bros, I haven't checked in for a while. What President Bush has managed to do is fracture the American conservative community. I would say he's the worst president since Bill Clinton.

[rockyusmc]

hey fox as long as carter is alive he owns that title.i remember when he was worried about the attack rabbit.

[3077India]

...worst president since Bill Clinton.Let's ponder that for a moment...
Has President Bush been linked to the mysterious suicide of a "friend"? (Vince Foster)
Has he been linked to real estate scandal in his home state? (Whitewater)
Has he lied under oath to a grand jury? (Perjury would get any Serviceman or woman Court Martailled, yet the former CNC got away with it. So much for the rule of law.)
Has he embarrassed himself and his wife by having oral sex with an intern? (Remember the infamous "...that depends on what the mean of is is..."?)
Has any of our embassies been subjected to terrorist attacks and he paid lipservice to getting the culprits? (Our Embassy in Kenya, Clinton paid lipservice to bringing the terrorists to justice)
Has he ordered military strikes just to draw attention away from the sex scandal? (Bosnia-Herzegovenia)
Has any of the ships of our navy been attacked by terrorists (Remember the USS Cole another instance where Clinton only paid lipservice to catching the terrorists.)I think I left a few things out.

I'm not exactly thrilled by our prolonged involvement in Iraq either, but at least President Bush has made good on his promise to get the terrorists that attacked us on 9/11. That's more than I can say about Clinton.

[ggyoung]

bootlace15+++++++++++The hell buch should not have to respond. All of this bs is on his watch. The buck stops at buch.

[hmckinley]

I don't know what canal you paddled out of, but I think something is wrong with this site. I voted for Bush his first time and voted for him the second time. Only thing that I can see that clinton tried a couple of month's ago was adlibbed something about congress should make it eligible for a president to occupy the presidency for three terms. Wish they had took him up on it, then I could have voted for Bush again!

[ggyoung]

To start with look at all the problems the VA is going through. Look at this young Marine that just tock his own life. He was turned away from a VA hospital. Could not get in even on a suaside(sp) watch. We as Vietnam vets have had to fight them for every thing we get. This inclouds(sp) all of our leaders going way back. The last good pres. we had was FDR. The buck should always stop in front of our presadents. Always.

[gwladgarwr]

Dear Frederick, <br />
<br />
Tell President Bush his reckless escalation plan is not the will of the people <br />
<br />
In the President's State of the Union address, it was stay the course on Iraq. It seems the...

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Well said, sir. While not a Democrat, I have voted for strong democrats in the past, and would do so again. However, I've yet to see one in this current crop of surrender monkeys, whose only concern seems to be winning politically, at the cost of losing, militarily and morally.