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jinelson
11-20-06, 03:01 PM
Socialism-Communism-Democratism - What's the difference?

The advent of the socialistic/communistic tenets of Karl Marx and their direct implementation by Lenin and Stalin has been a slow but steady political process in our country. When you read the manifestos of Socialism and Communism you are aware of phraseology which is full of hate. An emotion which is effectively hidden in the sentences which proclaim the rise of the workingman. You do not read of any love or of any real humanitarian instinct. Only the overt drive for power and conquest. The common denominators for all of the Marxian Credos has been the abolition of private property, the distribution of wealth, a completely secular society or an assault on any religion and the heavy taxation of all to the point of forced dependency on government or a governing class. This is also the present platform of our Democratist party.

Marx, in his studies of economics, tended to focus mainly on capitalism. A way of life which he hated with a passion. Unfortunately, in all his works there is a lack of knowledge and sensitivity relative to the human equation.......that is, the innate human desire to create, to succeed, to possess self worth and to own.

Basically the difference between socialism/communism and democratism in today’s American political atmosphere is only in degree and not in principle. As a Socialist the aim is to control; the objective of the Communist is to own; and the main tenets of the Democratist is an embracing of both.

We have, in this instant, a distinction without a difference. To allow for difference between these entities would be to allow for a modicum of dignity for the so-called Democrat party. To understand that there is little difference is to face reality.

Our history indicates that the influx of socialist thought and doctrine has been pervasive in the last half of the 20th century with no sign today of a let-up and it was possibly spawned just prior to the beginning of the last half of the past century and during the Franklin D. Roosevelt era. The seeds of the give-away programs could have been planted at this time and principally right after WW II when Russian communism, fresh from its victories of the war was emboldened to begin its stretching on a more serious note.

At Yalta, Franklin D. exhibited his magnanimous, generous and expansive nature by giving Stalin the Balkan countries. Later he furthered this atrocity by allowing the Russians a good piece of Germany and half of Berlin. He made the appeasement philosophy of Neville Chamberlain appear as chicken feed.

Roosevelt himself was an unwitting pawn to the communists at that time and possibly in being so weak to the demands of Stalin he could have been, either consciously or unconsciously, a willing adherent to the Bolshevik ideology.

He didn’t stop there. He went local. This kind of fertile soil allowed Democratism to gain a toehold in the once proud Democrat party and created the vacuum which was later filled by the flower children of the sixties. And they filled it with an impact from which we are still reeling. The Roosevelt residue was the cadre already in place which welcomed with open arms these recalcitrant mop-head, pot-smoking misfits as they filled the open posts awaiting them. The legislative dominance of the so-called Democrats during this period exacerbated, encouraged and abetted their culture drenching hypotheses and destructive lifestyles into every aspect of our daily lives. They oozed, eased and seeped into every segment of our society which included the once considered standard bearing institutions of the day.

They presented us with culture shock. The Democrat party, or whatever you wish to call this hodge podge (and I prefer Democratist) is basically a coalition of, illiterate radicals, intellectual snobs, guilt ridden nouveau rich, the major unions, abortionists, trial lawyers, radical environmentalists, the world of entertainment freaks, generally the field of education, gay rights activists and helter skelter revolutionaries. This broad brush excludes the naive in these categories but the others know who they are. The average American who claims to be a democrat is carried along with the backwash of this conglomerate and is obviously unaware of the quagmire into which he has been thrown and to which he is a willing dupe.

After WW II we were warned on many fronts. I can still recall the Walter Winchell radio broadcasts and his lone voice via the radio waves. Some can also recollect the warnings of Senator Joe McCarthy who unfortunately lost his cause to ferret them out because of his zeal for operating beyond the limits of our constitutional safeguards. McCarthy did a great deal of flushing but the vermin hung onto the edges and with the help of the news media were able to keep from being swept down the drain.

In his book, The Fight for America, Jesse Friedman stings McCarthy pretty well but then admits “In the last few years, CIA and KGB declassified information has confirmed to some degree McCarthy's accusations of Communist infiltration in our government. I am not calling Senator Joe McCarthy a liar. He was right. The problem is, he didn't know it!”

James Forrestal was Under Secretary of the Navy under Roosevelt and Secretary of defense with Truman. The Forrestal diaries tell a story not often read or heard in our historical perspectives. There was also the fear of communistic spread here and abroad, the desire for a solid “World Organization,” and the recognition of an obvious leftist movement of the American Press.

September 2, 1944 ---- In Forrestal’s letter to Palmer Hoyt, “I find that whenever any American suspects that we act in accordance with the needs of our own security he is apt to be called a god-damned fascist or imperialist, while if Uncle Joe (Stalin) suggests that he needs the Baltic Provinces, half of Poland, all of Bessarabia and access to the Mediterranean, all hands agree that he is a fine, frank, candid and generally delightful fellow who is very easy to deal with because he is so explicit in what he wants.”

September 28, 1945 ---- Ambassador Patrick Hurley who had just returned from China told Forrestal, “a good many of the professional staff of the State Department had not merely been of no help to him but a definite hindrance.” He went on to relate that many of the American Correspondents were communistically inclined as well as many of the people in the State Department.”

July 10, 1946 ---- While visiting Japan and MacArthur at this time Forrestal wrote that MacArthur stated he was critical and contemptuous of what he called the left-wing writers in the American press. They were, he said, playing the game, whether consciously or not, of the communists against the interests of their own country.

As you can see, nothing has changed.

The fact that we have a party in our country whose sole role is to win an election even if it aids and abets an enemy while we are at war is a sad commentary. It happened before and they got away with it. Maybe this is what James Russell Lowell meant when he wrote, “Democracy gives every man a right to be his own oppressor.”

In the American Revolution we had our Tories and our Loyalists who were willing advocates of the English continued rule. In WW II Norway had its Quislings and France was infested with Vichies. Since then we here have been infected with collaborators, legal rebels, insurgents, accepted traitors and the 4th estate which in truth is a 5th column. All who have knowingly aided and abetted the enemy. Especially since the Vietnam war our country no longer fully recognizes treason or the job description of a traitor.

During and since Roosevelt the socialist and communist minded have infiltrated our government from top to bottom and have held heavy sway in the direction of what was once the Democrat party. During and since Vietnam the un-American forces at work attempting to undermine our country have grown bolder thanks to an absolutely apathetic public.

The Democratists became emboldened when they discovered how completely they dominated their colleagues beginning with the war in Vietnam. They found that they could, through the aid of their cohorts in the news, actually determine the results of a war. They found that the American public could be easily swayed and in this discovery were able to recruit more and more followers.

Our soldiers won the “skirmishes” in the field but the Democratists won the battle for North Vietnam right here at home. And their treachery went unpunished.

On April 18, 2004 in a Detroit News article Tom Sowell pointed out, “Support for the war eroded and demands that we get out reached a crescendo. The irony in all this is that the communistic insurgents were beaten decisively during the Tet offensive. But what they lost in battle in Vietnam the communists won in the American media and in public opinion shaped by the media.”

In later years, after the communists were firmly in power in Vietnam, they admitted that the Tet offensive was a military disaster for them. The Premier of N. Vietnam stated ---- “That if it hadn’t been for your rebels and collaborators we would have sued for peace but because of them we had too much going for us.”

General Vo Nguyen Giop, commander of the North Vietnamese forces believed that their war strategy was valid and well grounded and well formulated but not sufficient for victory. He also stated that his military had been hard pressed to being victorious in any battle but they were encouraged to continue since the American troops were being knifed from behind with the cleaver of American public opinion.

In an interview which appeared in the Wall Street Journal August 3, 1995, the then Colonel Bui Tin stated frankly “that the key to their victory was the American home front, and that they were encouraged to fight on by all the anti-war demonstrations in the United States.” He further acknowledged that “Visits to Hanoi by people like Jane Fonda and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses.”

Today’s Democratists, under the temporary leadership of John Kerry, continue to allude to the war in Iraq as “just like Vietnam.” Their purpose of course is to demean our country, give the enemy hope, and win the presidential election. They are unwittingly correct. It IS just like Vietnam. Traitors then and traitors today. No difference. Vintage Marx. Subverting our efforts and our country was and is the name of the game. They just pulled out their old and successful play book.

The man on the street today who thinks he’s a democrat and is following a democrat cause should be challenged with the following:

Do you believe: in the equal distribution of wealth; the fomentation of class envy and the superiority of a collective society; in the principle that government should soak the rich; in that perversion is a commodity to be virtued and extolled rather than just understood; in rewarding and encouraging the indiscriminate proliferation of unwed mothers; in that laws should protect the criminal at the expense of the victim; in that government should provide, protect and dominate your life from cradle to grave; that the UN is a viable, efficient and effective world peace keeper and that our soldiers should be under its command; that political correctness promotes respectful unity rather than resentful conformity and that free speech should be subverted to its subjective whims; that higher taxes are the means to solving our national debt; that government should fund everything that moves; that pitting class against class strengthens our nation; that money directed to the defense of our country should be re-directed to the agents of social engineering; that competition should be eliminated; that private corporations are the cause of all our problems; and that the student achievers should be held back so that non-achievers do not lose their self esteem.

This is but the tip of the iceberg. We are faced today not with civil differences of opinion but with actual pronounced hatred. An uncommon trait in the history of the American political system. This should not be unexpected since the leftists are now so much in control of the Democratist party and the American citizenry has been so brain washed and desensitized to socialist jargon, they no longer fear what once would have been a citizen backlash. The philosophy of Karl Marx is now unabashedly accepted.

Samuel Adams remarked to the traitors of his day ------ a day which recognized treachery on the home front, "If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

The last half century of dumbing down our education system and its graduates has taken its toll. Not knowing American history and not being able to develop a feel as to the tremendous sacrifices of our forefathers in bringing us to where we are has been an invitation to not taking advantage of its fulfillments, unwittingly repeating its former mistakes and not appreciating fully the wonderment of its unique creation.

The democrats who today are ignorantly supporting the democratists must take heed. Open your eyes, listen to what these traitors are saying, re-ignite your beliefs in this the greatest country in the world and act accordingly.

greensideout
11-20-06, 08:54 PM
Did you write this Jim? (I always like to know the author of what I am reading.)

yellowwing
11-20-06, 09:06 PM
No, my buddy Google came up with George M. Haddad, June 1, 2004 (http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/democratism_pt1.htm).

I'm just waiting to hear what Thomas Jefferson had to say about it! :banana:

greensideout
11-20-06, 09:08 PM
As far as the comments on Karl Marx goes one must first relalize that he did little more then put to pen the ideas of Friedrich Engles.

SuNmAN
11-20-06, 09:15 PM
A democrat is not a communist

so since half the population of the United States identifies themselves as democrat/liberal then half the American people are either traitors or support traitors?

cmon now

greensideout
11-20-06, 09:20 PM
No, my buddy Google came up with George M. Haddad, June 1, 2004 (http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/democratism_pt1.htm).

I'm just waiting to hear what Thomas Jefferson had to say about it! :banana:


I think you already know wing. (Did you post this under Jim's name or did ya want to just butt in?) :confused:

yellowwing
11-20-06, 10:18 PM
I know Jim just doesn't have the time to write 2,200+ words about my Democratic Party. I was poking fun at him about being another copy and paste ranger! :D

greensideout
11-20-06, 10:38 PM
I know Jim just doesn't have the time to write 2,200+ words about my Democratic Party. I was poking fun at him about being another copy and paste ranger! :D


Thanks for the author's name wing. Was helpful. I was slow on the up-take of the joke---you got it, Jim and 10th are going to run out of paste sooner or later and then what the heck are they going to say---lol. (They are Marines so they will most likely find a way to make more paste.) :scared:

jinelson
11-20-06, 10:55 PM
Hey ya gotta fight fire with fire lmfao I figured that one would suck him in for sure but no dice.;)