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Drehzahl7
11-06-06, 10:13 PM
hey there guys... just curious if anyone out there had any info on this MOS.. I have enlisted to serve as a small arms repair technician, but i remember talking to a recruiter a couple years ago about Aircraft Recovery Specialist .. I searched on About.com and couldnt find it anywhere.. the closest thing was/is a position that is mostly fire and rescue.. From what i remember the aircraft recovery specialist would be a first responder position that would extract crash victims and would also make sure none of the secret/important equipment would be left behind for the enemy to get ahold of.. i know it had a little bit to do with first aid and such, but it was mostly geared towards protecting the crash site and not so much with medical stuff.. any info including the MOS number (think it was an 07 field) would be greatly appreciated..
Drehzahl7
11-09-06, 01:38 PM
anyone?
Christiansen
11-09-06, 02:59 PM
Try searching for 7011 instead of 07
Drehzahl7
11-09-06, 05:09 PM
thanks but that is nto the one.. 7011 deals with landing gear and emergency landing clearing.. the job i was talking about works with aircraft crashes.. but thanks bro.. really appreciate it
Kildars
11-09-06, 05:12 PM
You're wrong, there is no 07 field.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/marinejobs.htm
Hope that helps.
Camper51
11-09-06, 05:18 PM
MOS 7051, Aircraft Firefighting and Rescue Specialist
Summary. Personnel of MOS 7051 employ firefighting equipment and extinguishing materials to rescue victims involved in aircraft crashes and to fight fires in and around aircraft or structure. Typical duties include operating, servicing, inspecting, and testing aircraft firefighting and rescue vehicles, firefighting systems, controls, and rescue equipment; instructing personnel in the technique and procedures of fighting fires and operating heavy equipment to hoist and salvage all types of naval aircraft.
Requirements/Prerequisites
(1) MM score (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marineenjobs/blmarineasvab.htm) of 95 or higher.
(2) Complete the Fire protection Apprentice (Marines) Course.
(3) Vision correctable to 20/20, maximum vision impairment of 20/50 and normal color acuity.
Duties
(1) MGySgt to Pvt:
(a) Performs applicable functions of turret operator and rescuer.
(b) Operates vehicles with a rated capacity of at least 3/4 of a ton.
(c) Functions in all phases of aircrew rescue to include forcible entry, canopy removal, ejection seat safety precautions, and personnel removal.
(d) Administers first aid to injured personnel. Personnel are qualified in CPR and up to first responders level.
(e) Utilizes appropriate techniques with different types of extinguishing agents.
(f) Operates, maintains, and refills all types of extinguishers.
(g) Performs driver operator maintenance and inspection on all types of firefighting and support equipment licensed to operate under the 5-ton category.
(h) Maintains individual protective clothing and self contained breathing apparatus.
(2) MGySgt to Cpl:
(a) Operates firefighting vehicles up to and including those in the 17 ton category.
(b) Applies appropriate firefighting and rescue techniques and procedures for attack, control, and extinguishments of fires.
(c) Utilizes proper radio communication techniques and procedures as applied to airfield operations.
(d) Demonstrates familiarity with the construction, crew location, hazardous areas, and hoisting points of naval aircraft.
(e) Performs the duties of a firefighting dispatcher.
(f) Utilizes structural firefighting and extinguishing procedures.
(g) Applies appropriate safety precautions to be observed in crashes of aircraft loaded with ordnance.
(3) MGySgt to Sgt:
(a) Operates heavy equipment of at least a 30-ton capacity.
(b) Performs driver operator maintenance and inspection on all types of firefighting, support vehicles, and heavy equipment up to and including those in the 50-ton category.
(c) Hoists aircraft for movement and uprights inverted aircraft for crew rescue.
(d) Performa material requisitions, inventory, issue and accounting supply functions.
(4) MGySgt to SSgt:
(a) Drives, operates, performs driver operator maintenance, and inspects all types of firefighting, support vehicles, and heavy equipment up to and including those in the 50-ton category.
(b) Directs all phases of aircraft firefighting and rescue operations.
(c) Performs technical training in all phases of aircraft firefighting and rescue operations and basic structural firefighting.
(d) Supervises off-station independent emergency responses for aircraft incidents and mutual aid support.
(e) Conducts fire prevention inspections on flightlines, fuel pits, hangers, and support structures and/or facilities.
(5) MGySgt to GySgt:
(a) Directs structural firefighting and salvage operations.
(b) Diagrams crash Sites and prepares administrative reports on aircraft crashes or incidents.
(6) MGySgt and MSgt:
(a) Performs and/or supervises emergency operations.
(b) Advises and assists in the development of budget requirements and prepares all necessary administrative reports.
(c) Conducts fire prevention inspections on flightlines, fuel pits, hangars, and support structures and/or facilities.
(7) MGySgt:
(a) Organizes, administers, and assists in the management of an aircraft firefighting and rescue unit, both in garrison and in an expeditionary environment.
Related DOT Classification/DOT Code
(1) Firefighter, Crash, Fire, and Rescue 373.663-010.
(2) Fire Captain 373.134-010.
Related Military Skill. Firefighter, 8811 (http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marineenjobs/bl8811.htm).
Information Derived From MCO P1200.7V Part I and Part II.
Camper51
11-09-06, 05:19 PM
double post deleted
Camper51
11-09-06, 05:55 PM
PS Drehzahl7, I found this in the first place I looked, you could have done the same. It took me all of a few seconds. In the future use your resources around here or on Google...
Drehzahl7
11-09-06, 11:19 PM
see... like the 2nd paragraph in here.. Aircraft Recovery specialist.. so i guess i would have to enlist as a 7000/basic airfield services and then how do i get into aircraft recovery specialist? i know nothing is guaranteed and all but how would i go about taking that path? and by the way, i did try seraching on about.com and on marineparents.com as well.. sorry if disrespect you.. didint mean to.. just very courious.. thanks for your help
Formal schooling is provided to Marines entering the OccFld.
Entry level jobs include work as an aircraft recovery specialist, aviation operations specialist or aircraft firefighting and rescue specialist.
Billets available in the OccFld range from duty at each air station/facility and with each Marine aircraft wing/group/ squadron to the opportunity to serve in various category "B" jobs (MOSs 8000-9599).<SCRIPT>zSB(3,3)</SCRIPT> Marines entering this OccFld will receive MOS 7000, Basic Airfield Services Marine.
They will participate in routine airfield services functions while training for a designated MOS within the OccFld.
As Camper51 has shown, the 7051 MOS is what you are inquiring about. They are the ones who will recover downed aircraft, e.g. aircraft recovery.
(5) MGySgt to GySgt:
(a) Directs structural firefighting and salvage operations.
As a former 7041, Aviation Operation Specialist, falling under to 7000 MOS umbrella, I can assure that it is the 7051 specialist who takes care of the recovery of the crews and aircraft when an incident has occured. Hope this helps.
Christiansen
11-10-06, 08:31 AM
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10722
Maybe I am incorrect, but I found this thread on THIS message board and thought it was the job. Maybe I'm wrong. (read the last post)
killerinstinct
11-10-06, 08:39 AM
I had a few friends that did firec crash and rescue.. for the most part they sit on the runway in their truck.. occasionally when a plane gets hot brakes. they will come full geared in silver suits and stand by. other than that. they clean their trucks.
sgt gsoulard
11-19-06, 08:03 AM
Your posting of the job description of 7051 mos brought back memories of when i was doing the job back in the early 70s....as the description is as close as it was back then at the point....i guess we were right back there that they decided to keep it almost the same here 2006
crzyredneck
11-19-06, 11:34 AM
I signed my papers when i enlisted to become a part Crash fire and Rescue. I leave Jan 3rd for Basic, and i cant wait. I have always wanted to be a fire fighter, and i earned my Texas Fire Fighting Certification when i was in High School, so i am looking forward to the chance to be a Crash Fire and Rescue Personel, but of course after i achieve the ultimate goal of becoming a United States Marine!
sgt gsoulard
11-19-06, 01:06 PM
Your going to find out that crash fire and rescue has a few if not many difference but it all come down to fighting fires, saving personnel and aircrafts, and alittle chore like hotspot, wheel watch and dispatch....but like you said first thing first get to be a Marine and then you'll experience the glory of being Crash crewman.....make me proud let me know how you made out at Basic after you graduate contact me and let me know the many things that your doing at Crash Fire and Rescue training... You have about a month and a half before you leave for Basic so get yourself in shape and make us pround
crzyredneck
11-20-06, 12:20 AM
Will do... the getting in shape is a lil slow for me, but i have been one who has never been physically fit... but i am working on it... before i enlisted i was 225lbs after enlisting i am 203 which is what i need to be for that, and i got a month and a half to get to 191, which i know i can do. But i cant wait for basic. But i will contact you if i remember, to be honest. If not ill make sure i do some sort of post, and if you remember me then you can reply or something. Im just not good with names, im better with faces. But like you said my first step is to become a marine. Which is why i signed in the first place
I was a 7011 aircraft recovery specialist. I will be glad to answer any questions regarding this outstanding MOS.
Drehzahl7
12-01-06, 04:30 PM
hey jcdc1 .. what exactly were your duties as a aircraft recovery specialist? im just curious as tho what you basically do. im a bit confused still. from what i have read, i belive that when a chopper or aircraft goes down you in with your team and secure the crash site and extract the personnel right? and then destruct any equipment that the enemy could get their hands on. thats what i understand it is, also what a recruiter told me.. but based on peoples comments here im not so sure..
No, your recruiter is blowing smoke up your ass. What we did was arrest aircraft by use of M-21 arresting gear and/or E-28 arresting gear.
You know how aircraft land on an aircraft carrier? Well that's what we did but on land. We also build the 6000ft. runway, install and maintain the runway lighting. It's pretty exciting watching an A-4 or F-18 hit the gear at 100 knots.
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marineenjobs/bl7011.htm
This might help clarify
Don't believe everything your recruiter tells you. You can't trust all recruiters. Some just want to get you in and once you sign on the dotted line and get sworn in, your pretty much on your own. You go one way and he goes the other, probably never see him again. Do your research so you know exactly what your getting into, like your doing now. Don't get me wrong, I love the Marine Corp and it's great, just make sure you know what you getting into.
SEMPER FI,
Pete
cgripp256
12-05-06, 12:32 PM
You are thinking of Search and Rescue. Jumping out of a helicopter and rescue swimming. I believe that is a secondary job duty. Not a primary MOS. I could be wrong.
However, EAF or Aircraft recovery is completely different. Go here: http://sats-eaf.org/History.htm
Think mechanic, electrician, hardwood flooring installer and you'll get the majority of it!
Semper Fi!
Cpl Christopher S. Gripp
7011/USMC 1993-1997
Drehzahl7
12-06-06, 03:10 PM
hey there Gripp.. thanks for the info.. at least now i am sure that 7011 is not what i want.. and yes, it does sound like i am looking for search and rescue.. thanks alot for all your help guys..
sapper101
01-13-08, 07:16 PM
I signed my papers when i enlisted to become a part Crash fire and Rescue. I leave Jan 3rd for Basic, and i cant wait. I have always wanted to be a fire fighter, and i earned my Texas Fire Fighting Certification when i was in High School, so i am looking forward to the chance to be a Crash Fire and Rescue Personel, but of course after i achieve the ultimate goal of becoming a United States Marine!
You enlisted to a assigned MOS of 7051? I thought that a poolee signed up in 70XX series and if you were lucky you got Crash Fire Rescue.
cgripp256
02-01-08, 07:24 PM
Regarding "guarunteeing" an MOS. Not sure if this is still true today but when I enlisted it was 70xx with a priority of 7051. I got to NAS Millington where the training was done at the time, started class and two days into it they pulled me and another kid out and threw us into 7011. I had no idea what it was and I thout Aircraft Recovery still sounded cool. I got to the class, sat down, got my materials and started listening to Gunny Budhinas (sp?) and I quickly realized this wasn't anything like I thought. It was, as I stated before, much more of an all around mechanic type job with some cool bits thrown in like performing arrested landings occasionally.
So the moral is there are NO GUARUNTEES in the USMC.
Gripp
Parker-0321
02-01-08, 11:29 PM
You enlisted to a assigned MOS of 7051? I thought that a poolee signed up in 70XX series and if you were lucky you got Crash Fire Rescue.
thats how it works, i signed up to be Crash and Fire Rescue and got Aircraft Recovery. it's a pretty cool MOS i enjoy it for the most part. there's nothing like watching F18's and Harriers take off and land from 20 feet away.