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Sir Rinda
10-15-06, 03:02 PM
I am 20 years old. Had high test scores, and am very active. I served one year in the Marines. I never got out of SOI. I was going to be a mortarman but got injured in training and went to MRP where I soon lost all motivation. I went UA once for 9 days and was company NJP'd. I went UA again for a little over two months(but was not charged with desertion),and when I came back I popped for marijuana. I was speacial court-marshalled, and I am currently on appellate leave waiting for my DD214 to arrive via mail. I am going to recieve a BCD therefore I will have a RE4 code. I was very cuaght up with the scumbags of legal seps Camp Geiger. I wake up every day feeling that I have wasted such a great oppurtunity. I will do anything and everything to re-enlist. What will it take?

GySgtRet
10-15-06, 04:49 PM
What you discribe are Sea Lawyers, they have been around for a long time. I am afraid that you will have to wait for your BCD, then attempt to upgrade if allowed to by CMC. The CMC is who will have authority to re-instate you to our Corps. You have three strickes against you I am not sure if it is even possible to re-tread into the Corps. At any rate you will have to wait for about two years before all is said and done.

Marine84
10-15-06, 09:34 PM
tsk,tsk,tsk

cplbrooks
10-16-06, 12:27 AM
sorry chief, it sounds like you made your bed. UA, then desertion and then pop on a drug test? You had your second chance after the first UA. Why do you want the Corps to waste more time and money fooling around with you?

lucien2
10-16-06, 11:02 AM
Forget it, they have forgotten you.

STA0311
10-16-06, 11:49 AM
After all of the 200+ Marines and Sailors busted on Camp LeJeune around 2000 for Ex. They arent even going to care about a "problem child" that has not even been to the tough part of the Corps yet...come on SOI is easy.

outlaw3179
10-16-06, 01:24 PM
STA...I remember that time...we use to have weekly health and comforts, a Urinalysis twice a week , it was pretty bad. I lived in Horno and there were these barracks known as the cartel. I mean it got so bad some guy got executed on some rifle range by mainside becuz of a drug deal gone bad.

STA0311
10-16-06, 01:44 PM
Yeah...I was a "chaser" during that time and it sucked. Escorting all these terds around to their lawyers and stuff...we were pretty mean to them.

Marine84
10-16-06, 06:31 PM
What will it take?

Probably an act of God.

aang
10-16-06, 06:43 PM
It is cetainly a long shot. I waited for five years before my appellate review was completed. You should know however, you do have the right to end your voulntary appellate leave if that is what you are on. Your Commanding Officer has the power to suspend or set aside the sentence at his discretion should you show a good possiblity for rehabilitation. This might be your only shot. It is funny how we make such stupid mistakes at cetain time sin our lives. One thing you want to make very clear with your C.O. is your taking responsibility for your actions and any letters of recommendation and or character from your outift. Were you in SAC if so which company? I may have some resources for you to utilize from the cilivian side of things but they dont come cheap. However, they are very successful in keeping you from getting a BCD. take it from me a BCD is almost a death sentence when it comes to retention or re-enlistment in any branch. Good Luck and Semper FI

Sir Rinda
10-17-06, 11:16 AM
Well I appreaciate everyone's input. I know I have committed a terrible thing, and I want nothing more than to repair my military service. I will never forget, nor give up. In fact, does anyone know some of some people I can write (congressman, CMC, HQMC, etc.) ? I just think that during a time of war, there has got to be a way. Not to mention some people are giving the option of either going to jail, or joining the Corps. If they will recruit convicted felons, why won't they take a former Marine who wants nothing more than to honorably serve his country.

SSgtOfMarines
10-17-06, 12:11 PM
Well I appreaciate everyone's input. I know I have committed a terrible thing, and I want nothing more than to repair my military service. I will never forget, nor give up. In fact, does anyone know some of some people I can write (congressman, CMC, HQMC, etc.) ? I just think that during a time of war, there has got to be a way. Not to mention some people are giving the option of either going to jail, or joining the Corps. If they will recruit convicted felons, why won't they take a former Marine who wants nothing more than to honorably serve his country.

Dude, the Corps doesn't want your sorry ass in its ranks. Now go back to your mop and your Burger King floor.

GunnyL
10-17-06, 01:36 PM
Get on with your life young man, you haven't got a prayer in the world of rejoining this Corps.
You had an opportunity to do the right thing and you chose to do the wrong thing. Lack of discipline and integrity on your part is not forgiven by a Corps who holds those things so dear.
You should have thought about your priorities while you were in, not after they bounced your sorry ass out!

enough said

aang
10-17-06, 01:38 PM
You can always write your congressman or ask the CMC for a waiver. If you are still on appellate leave contact NAMALA and ask for a JAG lawyer who is representing you. They will see if there is anything they can do at this point. As long as you are in you can still utilize the JAG services.

David Jameson
10-17-06, 03:34 PM
Lei It Go.

Sir Rinda
10-20-06, 03:04 PM
Well...........I will never give up.........I know what I did was wrong, but I still wake up everyday proud to have just earned the title Marine. So I will do everything in my power to try and correct this error on my part. I wake up everyday angry at myself for losing my motivation. I was a highly squared away Marine for a while. But I let an injury and low morale get to me.

God Bless everyone in the Armed Forces.
Semper Fi , LnCpl Rinda

lucien2
10-20-06, 04:14 PM
Dude, the Corps doesn't want your sorry ass in its ranks. Now go back to your mop and your Burger King floor.

Comedy.

DUFFER
12-27-07, 10:09 PM
stupid phuk

3077India
12-28-07, 01:04 PM
SIR RINDA, sounds like you went into the Corps with a bad attitude and you F**KED yourself. No one forced you to go UA or smoke pot. Where was all this sudden concern for your future when YOU CHOSE TO DO THOSE THINGS? You had a great opportunity and you blew it. For what you have done you will be hard pressed to find sympathy here.


Well...........I will never give up.........I know what I did was wrong, but I still wake up everyday proud to have just earned the title Marine. So I will do everything in my power to try and correct this error on my part. I wake up everyday angry at myself for losing my motivation. I was a highly squared away Marine for a while. But I let an injury and low morale get to me.Hindsight is always 20/20 and it is good that you are angry, but you state that it is because you lost your motivation? So you let yourself go UA and smoke pot? Doesn't sound like you are angry or have regrets for any of that. At the very least you've let down the Corps and your brother Marines.

Achped
12-28-07, 01:58 PM
Rinda, I've spent 4 months at Camp Geiger in MRP. I probably saw you there even, running around in greens when we were in tans, or in tans when we were in greens.

Let me tell you this straight up.

I have zero respect for you. Guys like you are the reasons Marines like myself take the easy way out and get discharged. You run around talking about how all you have to do is "this" and say "that" and you'll get out. Not only that, but Marines like you are also the reason we don't get any priviledges and are treated like recruits, because they're always worried some piece of dirt like you is going to run away, which is why it takes months before anyone in SACo is even allowed off base on the weekends. Just recently, they've made some new rules and the bags of garbage in MRP are staying with the legal platoon, even if they're not being sep'd for legal issues. MRP finally doesn't spend 3 hours sitting on line every day doing nothing, standing by, because a piece of trash like yourself wanted to smoke or use his cell phone when he wasn't supposed to.

I hacked it out, I went through that piece of crap platoon, in that same squad bay, with those same instructors, and those same de-motivating pieces of trash that somehow earned the title, I've sat on that base for months. I didn't lose motivation. You did. Now I'm going back to training next month and you're trolling around "da burg" as someone who couldn't hack it. Don't come back.

And imagine that, I'm from St. Pete too.

Crusader20
12-28-07, 02:23 PM
Sorry, your choices in life were not the standards that the Corps wants or needs. What happens, if you do get back in, and you hit a rough spot? Sorry, CMC, gotta go!

And is it fair to the squad the you are assigned too? When bullets are flying, will you be there? My bet is no. I feel that if you were allowed back in you will mess up or want out within a year.

Get on with your life. Get some education and find a nice 9 to 5 job.

MarineNCO
12-31-07, 07:34 AM
I have seen many of your type come through Camp Geiger. I work here in the Supply section. Each and everyone of you that are/were students have to come through my shop when you get processed out. Each and everyone of you had the same thing to say: "I made a bad choice". This, in my opinion, is an excuse and a flimsy one at that. I do not want that type of person next to me in a fighting postion. One that lacks the moral courage to take a stand and do what is right. You may have graduated Marine Corps Boot Camp. You may have been told you earned the title of United States Marine. I beg to differ. You earn that title each and every day. Every time you take a stand and do what is right you earn that title. The one time you don't do what is right you no longer deserve to be called United States Marine. When I say this I am not talking about the occassional ass chewing from your superiors. I am talking about DUI, Drugs, Theft, and the more heinous crimes like Murder and Rape.

Since you have known from a very young age that drugs are bad and are not to be tolerated the information passed to you in Boot Camp should have been nothing new. You made a choice to do something that a Marine has been instructed and taught not to do. This leaves you no excuse to say "I made a bad decision".

You and those like you need to stay the hell out of the Marine Corps.

davblay
12-31-07, 10:19 AM
As an old recruiter frined of mine once said, "if Moses parts the Red Sea again, and you are standing there with him, you might ask God For his forgiveness, but the Corps hasn't got any for you lad!". Not everyone is meant to be a Marine, and you are one of them! Just carry on with your life, or try the Army in a couple of years!

If you came here for suggestions, we see a ****bird with regrets, if you want advice, suck it up, you done this to yourself! Without people like you the Corps would only need 50% of the 5800s (MPs) we have now!

Just my 2 cents

Dave

sparkie
12-31-07, 10:38 AM
Hey, Bros,,,,, check the post date. LOL

davblay
12-31-07, 10:59 AM
My answer still stands for anyone with a similar problem in the future!

Semper Fi

Dave

3077India
12-31-07, 12:36 PM
My answer still stands for anyone with a similar problem in the future!

Semper Fi

DaveYeah, I caught that after I posted my reply. Figure He's nolonger around here, maybe? :nerd:

ARMY GRUNT
12-31-07, 02:31 PM
A BCD is very hard to overcome. Even in light of the need for troops. It is probably very true that it will be almost impossible for you to get back into the Corps. So, besides owning up to your errors and accepting consequences, the only next thing that you can do to over come this would be to speak with a National Guard Recruiter. The National Guard in some states is so low on recruits that they have wider and more open waivers going on for RE-4. You other guys here mught laugh.... I had too many Old Salts in my life to teach me that you forgive a fellow soldier no matter the uniform. Many a man that would have been considered a criminal or crazy has received many a heroic award or in the heat of battle became that true soldier.

MarineNCO
01-03-08, 07:13 AM
Wow. Didn't even notice the post date. Who resurrected this thing? Ahh...Duffer did. *sighs dramatically*.

DUFFER
01-04-08, 06:20 PM
crap... I don't even know how I "resurected" this thing. Sorry about that. I just hunt through old threads and jokes seeing what I have missed. Again... sorry to bring it up but none the less this idiot is just that... and then some. Ciao' ! Duff~

jahhead88
01-04-08, 08:30 PM
I'm a substance abuse counselor for the VA. I can tell you this, you need to take responsibility for what you did. Whether or not you were in MRP is irrelevant. Two UA's and a dirty drug drop. Nobody ordered you to go UA or to smoke marijuana.

You want to be a Marine. You want to stay in, why now? If you were having difficulties why didn't you talk to one of your NCO's. If you thought you had trouble with Pot, why didn't you seek out counseling. You brought this on yourself. Yeah, you can talk to your congressman, but what good would that do?

Your right you earned the title Marine, but what did you do with it? Bottom line is you violated a trust. You can't fix that overnight like putting a band aid on a bleeding wound. If you are a religious person, I suggest you start praying immediately. Marine, it's time to step up to the plate and take your lumps.

You want to stay in, what price are you willing to pay? Personally, I'm surprised your not in the brig for what you did. You made the choice to go UA, and you made the choice to smoke weed. Now, it seems like you want to choose the consequences of your actions. It doesn't work that way.

The Corps let you enlist, allowed you to carry the title, and to me it seems like you said p*** on that. You want to avoid a BCD and an RE-4. I would suggest you start making immediate amends. You seriously violated a trust, and to earn that back you're going to have to pay a price.

gutinstinct
01-04-08, 11:44 PM
Well...........I will never give up.........I know what I did was wrong, but I still wake up everyday proud to have just earned the title Marine. So I will do everything in my power to try and correct this error on my part. I wake up everyday angry at myself for losing my motivation. I was a highly squared away Marine for a while. But I let an injury and low morale get to me.

God Bless everyone in the Armed Forces.
Semper Fi , LnCpl Rinda Marines, I think Sir Rinda gave up. Its been approx 15 months since his last post. :confused:

lolcorps
01-12-08, 05:34 PM
Samething happened to me.....same exact thing except for the 2nd u.a.. The scum bag marines at Geiger r just that. All I can tell u is the marines will be your big brother until something goes wrong. Once a marine always a marine is bull crap. Look at the post your getting in return. I can tell u I got a o.t.h. to my friend-re-4b and I have great life working for the govt. Don't be fooled by these guys. Honorable or o.t.h. the govt doesnt have time to check backgrounds nowadays. keep your head up kid, and when you have grand kids you can tell them you had NO PART in this occupation.....because a war it is NOT. vietnam was a war this is a mere gang fight going on.lol

Wyoming
01-12-08, 06:10 PM
Samething happened to me.....same exact thing except for the 2nd u.a.. The scum bag marines at Geiger r just that. All I can tell u is the marines will be your big brother until something goes wrong. Once a marine always a marine is bull crap. Look at the post your getting in return. I can tell u I got a o.t.h. to my friend-re-4b and I have great life working for the govt. Don't be fooled by these guys. Honorable or o.t.h. the govt doesnt have time to check backgrounds nowadays. keep your head up kid, and when you have grand kids you can tell them you had NO PART in this occupation.....because a war it is NOT. vietnam was a war this is a mere gang fight going on.lol

Dirtbag toolsack!!

So you work for the government?

TSA?

Interesting.

lolcorps
01-12-08, 06:14 PM
yes maam.. in boston logan international.

Phantom Blooper
01-12-08, 06:28 PM
I decided to go u.a. for 13 days. Came back told them I smoked some weed and got discharged with a o.t.h..

The key word is YOU decided to do this now you want help to get an upgraded discharge certificate to go into the Army. Then you bad mouth honorable Marines that did their time honorably and some under fire. Because you made the decision to do with your life what YOU did. When you went to boot camp and were given classroom instruction you knew the repercussions on your life if you disobeyed orders under the UCMJ. YOU chose your path. Big Brother looks out for those that have potential and want to turn a new leaf. You do not...it is evident by the job that you have now. There will be another media publicized security breach at an airport...somewhere...and your record will be expunged and looked at closely and you will get fired for another bout of dishonorable service. You just haven't been caught yet by TSA or an audit by the government hasn't been done!

To blame the Marine Corps for your faults is consistent with the attitude that both you and SirRinda are doing. Police your life and do what you need to do to be honest in your dealings and straighten it out! To blame and bad mouth honorable Marines for your character flaws about how the Marine Corps is or is not is UNSAT. You weren't in the Marine Corps long enough to have a valuable opinion!:evilgrin:

gutinstinct
01-12-08, 06:37 PM
lolcorps, please fill out your profile

Wyoming
01-12-08, 06:40 PM
yes maam.. in boston logan international.

I call BS here, unless you are more stupid than I think, BUT, I've been wrong before.

So what's the deal, you such a dick you can't fill out a profile?

gutinstinct
01-12-08, 06:43 PM
I call BS here, unless you are more stupid than I think, BUT, I've been wrong before.

So what's the deal, you such a dick you can't fill out a profile? God, I love this site,:cool:

temarti
01-12-08, 07:41 PM
call BS on TSA, even though they are scumbags I don't think they would hire this one. I call that this POS works for a local govt mopping toll booths on the midnight shift...

yellowwing
01-12-08, 09:42 PM
Taken care of, Bros.

Anyway, three months of this episode is enough for now.