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prmama
07-09-02, 09:27 AM
Watch out fews u have meet your match? I'll eat you up and spit you out.

prmama
07-09-02, 09:33 AM
Lets party

prmama
07-09-02, 09:36 AM
Watch out men here I come?

thedrifter
07-09-02, 09:39 AM
You put me in this war.......

You will be all washed up.......

Sempers,

Roger

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/3177.jpg

devildog2B
07-09-02, 10:11 AM
That is the most disturbing picture i have even seen lol damn where u find stuff like that lol.......omg throw one of those at the enemy ( wimen ) and they would run lol

prmama
07-09-02, 10:22 AM
Just remember u have been warned.

devildog2B
07-09-02, 10:50 AM
just a funny wimen picture lol



http://www.steakandcheese.com/pics-dd.html and click on pic number 5 lol ok...sorry i couldnt put the pic on here directly it is over 500 - 300 lol

prmama
07-09-02, 11:03 AM
You are a sick pervert.

A man went to see a famous psychiatrist.

The doctor showed the man an inkblot and asked, "What does this remind you of?"

The guy replied, "A naked woman." Then the doctor showed the man another inkblot and asked the guy the same question.

The guy responded, "A naked woman on a bed."

This went on and on, inkblot after inkblot.

The psychiatrist finally said to the guy, "You are a sick pervert."

"I'm not the pervert here." The guy replied.

"You're the one with all of the dirty pictures."

prmama
07-09-02, 11:07 AM
This what we think of husbands.

JAMarine
07-09-02, 11:07 AM
<B>I Am Afraid,,,,,,,,,,,,Very Afraid.............


NOT!


Take Your BEST Shot Heather MARINE.

prmama
07-09-02, 11:08 AM
WHAT MEN DO TO US WOMEN?

devildog2B
07-09-02, 11:10 AM
http://www.steakandcheese.com/pics-dd.html


pic number 1394 lol thats what happens when dinner is A: late B: is cold and C: i find you with the mail man lol

prmama
07-09-02, 11:19 AM
DD2B U R IN BIG TROUBLE. WHAT TO DO SOME IRONING?

devildog2B
07-09-02, 11:22 AM
bbbbwwwwwwaaahahhahaahahaha lol and let it be known that I am the iron man :)

prmama
07-09-02, 11:31 AM
Today's joke for this category


Women's instructions
WOMEN'S COMPACT INSTRUCTION BOOK

Never do housework. No man ever made love to a woman because the house was spotless.

Remember you are known by the idiot you accompany.

Don't imagine you can change a man - unless he's in diapers.

devildog2B
07-09-02, 12:01 PM
just a link you ought to see lol

http://hometown.aol.com/uwofb/myhomepage/personal.html

prmama
07-09-02, 12:30 PM
Manhood

A man was in a terrible accident, and his "manhood" was mangled and torn from his body. His doctor assured him that modern medicine could give him back his manhood, but that his insurance wouldn't cover the surgery, since it was considered cosmetic. The doctor said that the cost would be $3500 for small, $6500 for medium, and $14,000 for large. The man was sure he wanted a large, but the doctor urged him to talk it over with his wife before he made any decision. The man called his wife on the phone and explained their options. The doctor came back into the room, and found the man looking quite dejected. "Well, what have the two of you decided?" asked the doctor. The man answered, "She'd rather remodel the kitchen."

prmama
07-09-02, 12:32 PM
How Many Men?


How many honest, intelligent, caring men in the world does it take to do the dishes?

Both of them.

prmama
07-09-02, 12:38 PM
Men Suck


Men will brag that there are women waiting by the phone at this very moment for their call. Who are these women?
- Women working at 900 numbers.

Where is the best place in a book store to find a man who is handsome, a good lover and a stimulating partner?
- In the pages of a romance novel.

What do you do with a man who thinks he's God's gift?
- Exchange him.

Why is the book "Women Who Love Too Much" a disappointment for many men?
- No phone numbers.

Why do men like smart women?
- Opposites attract.

SGT T
07-09-02, 12:42 PM
I FOUND A GUY THAT SAYS HE HAS GONE OUT WITH ALL OF YOU HIS NAME IS RICCO

prmama
07-09-02, 01:23 PM
STILL TRYING TO IMPRESS THE WOMEN

SGT T
07-09-02, 02:50 PM
I THOUGHT I IMPRESSED YOU FROM THE START:cool:

prmama
07-09-02, 02:54 PM
When ru going to realize that women are stronger then men? In more ways then one.

JAMarine
07-09-02, 03:24 PM
Here's your roomy for the day Heather.

This is actually a test of my being able to follow directions.

prmama
07-09-02, 03:35 PM
Word of advice. Was it good for u as it was for me?

SGT T
07-09-02, 03:45 PM
I DONT KNOW ABOUT JAMARINE BUT I ENJOYED IT.....LMAO:cool:

prmama
07-09-02, 03:57 PM
Here is u trying to take a peek it Lakers

SGT T
07-09-02, 04:16 PM
SO YOU CAUGHT ME SNEEKING A PEEK...WELL WHAT U DIDNT SEE IS WHERE MY DIGITAL CAMERA WAS POINTING......NICE TATTOO.....LMAO:cool:

prmama
07-09-02, 04:34 PM
Compare the genders
Differences Between Men & Women

NICKNAMES: If Gloria, Suzanne, Debra and Michelle go out for lunch, they will call each other Gloria, Suzanne, Debra and Michelle. But if Mike, Phil, Rob and Jack go out for a brewsky, they will affectionately refer to each other as Fat Boy, Godzilla, Peanut-Head and Useless.

EATING OUT: And when the check comes, Mike, Phil, Rob and Jack will each throw in $20 bills, even though it's only for $22.50. None of them will have anything smaller, and none will actually admit they want change back. When the girls get their check, out come the pocket calculators.

BATHROOMS: A man has six items in his bathroom-a toothbrush, shaving cream, razor, a bar of Dial soap, and a towel from the Holiday Inn. The average number of items in the typical woman's bathroom is 437. A man would not be able to identify most of these items.

GROCERIES: A woman makes a list of things she needs and then goes out to the store and buys these things. A man waits till the only items left in his fridge are half a lime and a soda. Then he goes grocery shopping. He buys everything that looks good. By the time a man reaches the checkout counter, his cart is packed tighter than the Clampett's car on Beverly Hillbillies. Of course, this will not stop him from going to the 10-items-or-less lane.

SHOES: When preparing for work, a woman will put on a Mondi wool suit, then slip on Reebok sneakers. She will carry her dress shoes in a plastic bag from Saks. When a woman gets to work, she will put on her dress shoes. Five minutes later, she will kick them off because her feet are under the desk. A man will wear the same pair of shoes all day.

CATS: Women love cats. Men say they love cats, but when women aren't looking, men kick cats.

DRESSING UP: A woman will dress up to: go shopping, water the plants, empty the garbage, answer the phone, read a book, get the mail. A man will dress up for: weddings, funerals.

LAUNDRY: Women do laundry every couple of days. A man will wear every article of clothing he owns, including his surgical pants that were hip about eight years ago, before he will do his laundry. When he is finally out of clothes, he will wear a dirty sweatshirt inside out, rent a U-Haul and take his mountain of clothes to the Laundromat. Men always expect to meet beautiful women at the Laundromat. This is a myth perpetuated by re-runs of old episodes of "Love, American Style."

OFFSPRING: Ah, children. A woman knows all about her children. She knows about dentist appointments and soccer games and romances and best friends and favorite foods and secret fears and hopes and dreams. A man is vaguely aware of some short people living in the house.

prmama
07-09-02, 04:39 PM
I found something that men are not perfect.


http://www.theperfectjoke.com/

Enjoy it both ladies and gentlemen.

Heather

prmama
07-09-02, 04:43 PM
Men are like ... newborn babies.
They're cute at first, but you get tired of picking up their crap.

Men are like ... coffee.
The best ones are rich, hot and can keep you up all night.

Men are like ... computers.
Hard to figure out and never enough memory.

Men are like ... coolers.
Load them with beer and you can take them anywhere.

Men are like ... chocolate bars.
Sweet, smooth and they usually head right for your hips.

Men are like ... power tools.
They make a lot of noise, but it's hard to get them to work.

Men are like ... remote controls.
Simple. Easy to use. And usually lying around a TV.

Men are like .... shag carpets.
Soft, fuzzy and extremely easy to walk on.

Men are like ... vacuum cleaners.
They're not much fun, but at least you get to push them around.

Men are like ... road kill.
They usually just lie around until they start to smell.

Men are like ... soap operas.
They're fun to watch, but don't believe everything you hear.

Men are like ... pillows.
Eventually, even the best ones get soft and lumpy.

Men are like ... old car tires.
Balding, full of hot air, and it never hurts to have a spare.

Men are like ... plastic wrap.
Cheap, Clingy and very easy to see through.

Men are like ... department stores.
Their clothes should always be half off.

Men are like ... horoscopes.
They always tell you what to do and are usually wrong.

Men are like ... plungers.
They spend most of their lives in a hardware store or the bathroom.

Men are like... Placemats.
They only show up when there is food on the table.

Men are like... Mascara
They usually run at the first sign of emotion.

Men are like... Bike Helmets.
Handy in an emergency, but otherwise they just look silly.

Men are like... Government bonds.
They take so long to mature.

Men are like... Parking spots.
All the good ones are taken, the rest are handicapped.

Men are like... Lava Lamps.
Fun to look at, but not all that bright.

Men are like... Bank accounts.
Without a lot of money, they don't generate much interest.

Men are like... High heels.
They are easy to walk on once you get the hang of it.

Men are like... Curling Irons.
They're always hot, and they're always in your hair.

prmama
07-09-02, 04:47 PM
"I'm hungry." = I'm hungry.
"I'm sleepy." = I'm sleepy.
"I'm tired." = I'm tired.
"Do you want to go to a movie?" = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
"Can I take you out to dinner?" = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
"Can I call you sometime?" = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
"May I have this dance?" = I'd eventually like to have sex with you.
"Nice dress!" = Nice cleavage!
"You look tense, let me give you a massage." = I want to fondle you.
(while shopping) "I like that one better." = Pick any freakin dress
and let's go home!
"What's wrong?" = I don't see why you are making such a big deal out
of this.
"What's wrong?" = What meaningless self-inflicted psychological
trauma are you going through now?
"What's wrong?" = I guess sex tonight is out of the question.
"I'm bored." = Do you want to have sex?
"I love you." = Let's have sex now.
"I love you, too." = Okay, I said it...we'd better have sex now!
"Yes, I like the way you cut your hair." = I liked it better before.
"Let's talk." = I am trying to impress you by showing that I am a
deep person and maybe then you'd like to have sex with me.
"Will you marry me?" = I want to make it illegal for you to have sex
with other guys.

lakers
07-09-02, 04:53 PM
so you pulled me into this mess when i wasent even looking didnt you heather well you know what they say about pay back and im the B---H lmao now

SGT T
07-09-02, 05:00 PM
I SMELL A CAT FIGHT....ILL GET THE MUD AND THE BIKINS SOMEBODY ELSE GET THE BEER AND TOWELS:D

NUTHIN BUT LUV FOR THE LADIES

prmama
07-09-02, 05:02 PM
You put me into it yesterday. lmao
Heather

USMC0311
07-09-02, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by prmama
Compare the genders
Differences Between Men & Women

NICKNAMES: If Gloria, Suzanne, Debra and Michelle go out for lunch, they will call each other Gloria, Suzanne, Debra and Michelle. But if Mike, Phil, Rob and Jack go out for a brewsky, they will affectionately refer to each other as Fat Boy, Godzilla, Peanut-Head and Useless.
anything relating 2 vagina!!

EATING OUT: And when the check comes, Mike, Phil, Rob and Jack will each throw in $20 bills, even though it's only for $22.50. None of them will have anything smaller, and none will actually admit they want change back. When the girls get their check, out come the pocket calculators.
Vagina

BATHROOMS: A man has six items in his bathroom-a toothbrush, shaving cream, razor, a bar of Dial soap, and a towel from the Holiday Inn. The average number of items in the typical woman's bathroom is 437. A man would not be able to identify most of these items.
clean Vigina

GROCERIES: A woman makes a list of things she needs and then goes out to the store and buys these things. A man waits till the only items left in his fridge are half a lime and a soda. Then he goes grocery shopping. He buys everything that looks good. By the time a man reaches the checkout counter, his cart is packed tighter than the Clampett's car on Beverly Hillbillies. Of course, this will not stop him from going to the 10-items-or-less lane.
Clean and fluffed Vagina
SHOES: When preparing for work, a woman will put on a Mondi wool suit, then slip on Reebok sneakers. She will carry her dress shoes in a plastic bag from Saks. When a woman gets to work, she will put on her dress shoes. Five minutes later, she will kick them off because her feet are under the desk. A man will wear the same pair of shoes all day.
OFF and Feet Wall 2 wall

CATS: Women love cats. Men say they love cats, but when women aren't looking, men kick cats.
only ones called Vigina

DRESSING UP: A woman will dress up to: go shopping, water the plants, empty the garbage, answer the phone, read a book, get the mail. A man will dress up for: weddings, funerals.
all 4 Vigina

LAUNDRY: Women do laundry every couple of days. A man will wear every article of clothing he owns, including his surgical pants that were hip about eight years ago, before he will do his laundry. When he is finally out of clothes, he will wear a dirty sweatshirt inside out, rent a U-Haul and take his mountain of clothes to the Laundromat. Men always expect to meet beautiful women at the Laundromat. This is a myth perpetuated by re-runs of old episodes of "Love, American Style."
clean panties R nice

OFFSPRING: Ah, children. A woman knows all about her children. She knows about dentist appointments and soccer games and romances and best friends and favorite foods and secret fears and hopes and dreams. A man is vaguely aware of some short people living in the house. Yep hada 2 happen

lakers
07-09-02, 05:05 PM
WELL WELL SGT T WHO NEEDS BIKINIS HUMMM :D ANYWAY HEATHER THE PICTURE YESTERDAY WAS SOOO YOU :p

prmama
07-09-02, 05:10 PM
Got one of u if u like.

SGT T
07-09-02, 05:17 PM
POST IT POST IT POST IT I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU TO POST IT

lakers
07-09-02, 05:22 PM
OH YOU DONT EVEN WANT THAT KIND OF MESS ON YOUR HANDS NOW DO YOU SGT T

SGT T
07-09-02, 05:50 PM
i always look forward to that kind of stuff

wrbones
07-09-02, 05:55 PM
the other day. Trouble was, SHE thought she was foxy.

wrbones
07-09-02, 06:06 PM
... but I did find some pics of the ladies. Linda for example.....

wrbones
07-09-02, 06:16 PM
of Heather....

prmama
07-09-02, 07:38 PM
I toldf u to wear your glasses.

prmama
07-09-02, 07:40 PM
Cook I know u like this.

wrbones
07-09-02, 07:54 PM
> > > Recently a "Husband Shopping Center" opened in Dallas, where
> > > women could go to choose a husband from among many men. It was laid
out
> > > in five floors, with the men increasing in positive attributes as
you
> > > ascended
> > > up the floors.
> > >
> > > The only rule was, once you opened the door to any floor, you must
> > > choose a man from that floor, and if you went up a floor, you
couldn't
> go
> > > back down except to leave the place never to return.
> > >
> > > A couple of girlfriends go to the place to find men.
> > >
> > > First floor, the door had a sign saying "These men have jobs and love
> > > kids." The women read the sign and say, "Well, that's better than not
> > > having jobs, or not loving kids, but I wonder what's further up?" So
up
> > they
> > > go.
> > >
> > > Second floor says "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, and
> > > are extremely good looking." Hmmm, say the girls. But, I wonder
what's
> > > further up?
> > >
> > > Third floor: "These men have high paying jobs, are extremely good
> > > looking, love kids and help with the housework." Wow! say the women.
> Very
> > > tempting, BUT, there's more further up! And up they go.
> > >
> > > Fourth floor: "These men have high paying jobs, love kids, are
> > > extremely good looking, help with the housework, and have a strong
> > romantic
> > > streak."
> > >
> > > Oh, mercy me. But just think! What must be awaiting us further on!
> > > So up to the fifth floor they go. The sign on that door says;
> > >
> > > "This floor is empty and exists only to prove that women are
impossible
> to
> > > please. Goodbye."
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Sparrowhawk
07-09-02, 09:35 PM
You know how to play it.

Most little girls do

I sort of changed it for you....LOL


http://vietnamveterans.bizland.com/gameb.gif

prmama
07-09-02, 09:45 PM
Run as fast as u can.

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:24 AM
but very funny! LMAO prmama is such a pretty little thing, though.

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:26 AM
...that she is entering my little world....

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:34 AM
and hypnotic surealism....

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:35 AM
and perceptions....

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:38 AM
with all it's twists and turns.....

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:44 AM
is a necessary skill.

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:46 AM
...and fear

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:49 AM
will reveal thinks amazing to see....

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:52 AM
...bur yet complex in it's workings....

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:54 AM
..of change.

wrbones
07-10-02, 01:59 AM
..is obscene....

wrbones
07-10-02, 02:01 AM
...are at constant war....

wrbones
07-10-02, 02:03 AM
..is my world....

wrbones
07-10-02, 02:04 AM
...must scurry to hide....

wrbones
07-10-02, 02:08 AM
..your...well. you get the picture.

wrbones
07-10-02, 02:10 AM
...but you've been warned.

prmama
07-10-02, 09:00 AM
Where the women beats the battle.

prmama
07-10-02, 09:02 AM
Back.

prmama
07-10-02, 09:06 AM
Magic and Hereos

prmama
07-10-02, 09:09 AM
Where I am the hereo.

Sparrowhawk
07-10-02, 09:40 AM
Heather's Guide to Dating Etiquette


1. Do not enter your date in a female mud-wrestling contest without asking her permission.

2. Do not refer to your hunting dog as "the other woman in your life."

3. Do not mention your UFO abduction experiences until at least the third date.

4. Do not expect a woman wearing a dress to be happy about climbing into a truck with tires that are taller than she is. Be sure to warn her to wear jeans.

5. Your favorite faded Dukes of Hazard t-shirt should be saved for the fifth or more date, unless, of course, it's the only clean shirt you have.

6. If the woman drives, never, ever try to get away with spitting tobacco down the side of your seat on the hope that she won't notice. She's not like your slobbering fishing buddies, so you must always roll down your window when you need to spit.

7. Never compare her figure to that of a Coors can, even if you're trying to tell her that she's real sleek.

8. Deep Woods Off! is not a substitute for deodorant.

9. Never tell a woman straight out that you can't have her name tatooed on you because your Mom, who is so proud of your bicep bearing her name, would be psychotically jealous.

10. Do not invite a woman to go cow-tipping if she's wearing high heels.

prmama
07-10-02, 09:52 AM
With your sick minds. I thought of somehting that would make everything better.

prmama
07-10-02, 09:53 AM
This is for both of u.

SGT T
07-10-02, 10:04 AM
TO POSTING FUNNY PICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT....MAN BONES ALL THOSE CRAZY PICS ARE MAKING ME DIZZY SO I AM SURE THEY ARE MESSING UP THOSE WOMEN.....

CAS3
07-10-02, 10:26 AM
prmama and bones are having their own "strange" war!! Should we show them how it is done?

Spiderman
07-10-02, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by CAS3
prmama and bones are having their own "strange" war!! Should we show them how it is done?

Spiderman climbs up Cas' window, This I gotta see.... he says


Cas and Sgt "T"


Hahehehehehhe, hummm maybe I can sell tickets, to the show?

CAS3
07-10-02, 10:34 AM
Ahh the alter ego emerges...
Spiddy climbs the wall..
sees CAS dressed in sweats
sees SGT T not dressed


hmmm...what the..

sees CAS walking toward the closet...

SGT T is heading for the bed...


CAS grabs something from the closet..
SGT T moves the bed to the other side of the room...

PUGLE STICKS...

GEE WHAT WERE YOU GUYS THINKING????

SGT T
07-10-02, 10:39 AM
I KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING..ANYWAY A LITTLE TIP FOR THE LADIES

http://www.funny-city.com/photos/42.jpg

CAS3
07-10-02, 10:40 AM
I am sure you know that works from your own experience...

CAS3
07-10-02, 10:41 AM
YOU HIT 169 POSTS WOOOHOOOO

SGT T
07-10-02, 10:47 AM
SGT T STARTS TO GET UNDRESSED WITH CAS WHEN HE REALIZES THAT THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT STATES....OOPS SORRY

prmama
07-10-02, 10:55 AM
Nice to c another wm playing???????

CAS3
07-10-02, 10:57 AM
the big tease now????


Hey, ever wonder why women are smarter than men?

Sixguns
07-10-02, 10:57 AM
Yeah, CAS can play games. Problem is she doesn't win them. Just because she has jumped on the wagon, doesn't mean the women are going to win. I see the addition of CAS as a negative, more than a positive for your side. Good luck anyway!!!


Sixguns

CAS3
07-10-02, 11:02 AM
READ....
jealousy will get you no where!

Shaffer
07-10-02, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by CAS3
Ahh the alter ego emerges...
Spiddy climbs the wall..
sees CAS dressed in sweats
sees SGT T not dressed


hmmm...what the..

sees CAS walking toward the closet...

SGT T is heading for the bed...


CAS grabs something from the closet..
SGT T moves the bed to the other side of the room...

PUGLE STICKS...

GEE WHAT WERE YOU GUYS THINKING????

RUN "T" RUN! Get the hell outa there... You don't know where those pugil sticks have been :eek:

By the way...CAS...where do the batteries go in them? :p

prmama
07-10-02, 11:07 AM
What u think we can't over power u men? Well, I can do it. Without a hesitation. Even If I was the last person standing on a desserted island>

prmama
07-10-02, 11:15 AM
Good to c ya too. Every man needs to hide.

prmama
07-10-02, 11:16 AM
These Two Were Meant For Each Other...

A truck driver was going south on I-75, when he came upon a weight station. When he pulled in and got on the scales to be weighed, the scale master told the driver that he was 900lbs. over weight. The truck driver replied, I can take care or that. The scale master asked he how could he fix the problem? The driver said, let me go around back, and I'll fix the overweight problem. The scale master agreed to let him fix his problem. About half an hour later the truck driver got back on the scales, and the scale master said, driver, you are still 900lbs. over weight. The truck driver said, I don't understand what went wrong. I let 50lbs. out of each tire on the rig. After thinking the problem over the scale master said, well 18 tires times 50lbs. would equal 900lbs. I guess my scales must be wrong. I'm sorry driver, you may continue on down the road, and have a nice day.

I was thinking more of the line of bones and cook.

SGT T
07-10-02, 11:19 AM
THANKS FOR THE ADVISE SHAFFER I HAD NO IDEA..............................RUNS FOR THE DOOR AND FINDS IT LOCKED....TURNS A SEE'S CAS COMING AT HIM.....
NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sixguns
07-10-02, 11:37 AM
Being a dick is great!!! Just think of all the fun I can have. Women love it! You know you do!! I will send you an e-mail later ith all the reasons of why being a dick is fun!!! Try not to be jealous!!


Sixguns

Spiderman
07-10-02, 11:42 AM
Sgt T watch out, there's more!!!!


Just saw what else she has in that closet, let's all look in there, see what we can find...

Let's see what's in CAS' closet...Hahahaheheheheheh



http://www.handcuffs.org/small%20main.jpg

Spiderman
07-10-02, 11:50 AM
Anybody know what they are for? I found them right next to her bras.. A whole bunch of them.


Difference sizes and everything.... ROTFLMAO

SGT T
07-10-02, 12:41 PM
THOSE THINGS COULD BE GOOD OR BAD

Shaffer
07-10-02, 12:49 PM
:confused:
You talking bout the pugil sticks???

You better be careful. You are bordering on crossing over that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy! :D

SF,

Jerry

SGT T
07-10-02, 12:52 PM
THE HANDCUFFS MAN THE HANDCUFFS....I DO NOT SWING FROM MY TREE THAT WAY

wrbones
07-10-02, 02:04 PM
I figured with women being a bit dizzy anyway, a little push might get 'em over the edge....

lakers
07-10-02, 02:17 PM
NOW BONES, YOU KNOW THAT WHEN A WOMAN SETTLES DOWN WITH A MAN, ANY MAN, SHES ALREADY WENT OVER THE EDGE!!! SO YOUR PICTURES ARE POINTLESS TO US LMAO :D :p

Rat Patrol
07-10-02, 02:55 PM
I member the 1st time I saw Cas wear this fake bottom.

It was "Girl's night out," and she wore it to impress the men.

I'll see what else is in this closet!

Rat's can find out all sorts of things....ROTFLMAO

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:09 AM
Some folks be getting warnings, I see, and others be getting their sexy stuff deleted, Strange as my strategy is, I don't have such interference to worry about....Therefore, I must be one of the good guys!

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:12 AM
...admirable, I think they may be reaching beyond their abilities.

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:18 AM
...I dearly love those who go around tilting at windmills...

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:20 AM
...set their sights much too high

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:22 AM
any woman who can do this...

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:25 AM
..someone like this...

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:26 AM
,,drives something like this...

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:29 AM
..looking like this in the morning...

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:32 AM
...to become vulnerable.

wrbones
07-11-02, 01:35 AM
against myself, or the men of leatherneck.com!

Barndog
07-11-02, 06:13 AM
I claim plausable deniability.

Bones is right, you know........... LOL


Semper FI

Barndog

TeufelHunden
07-13-02, 09:55 AM
After spending time with Eve, Adam was walking in the Garden with God. Adam told God how much the woman meant to him and how blessed he felt to have her. Adam began to ask questions about her.

Adam: Lord, Eve is beautiful. Why did you make her so beautiful?

God: So you would always want to look at her.

Adam: Lord, her skin is so soft. Why did you make her skin so soft?

God: So you would always want to touch her.

Adam: She always smells so good. Lord, why did you make her smell so good?

God: So you would always want to be near her.

Adam: That's wonderful Lord, and I don't want to seem ungrateful, but why did you make her so dumb?

God: So she would love you.

prmama
07-13-02, 10:24 AM
http://www.malebasher.com/sixinches/

makes u wonder.

prmama
07-13-02, 10:33 AM
this is for all men out there

http://www.funshack.com/idiot.html

Sixguns
07-13-02, 02:56 PM
HOW TO IMPRESS A WOMAN

Wine her,
Dine her,
Call her,
Hug her,
Hold her,
Surprise her,
Compliment her,
Smile at her,
Laugh with her,
Cry with her,
Cuddle with her,
Shop with her,
Give her jewelry,
Buy her flowers,
Hold her hand,
Write love letters to her,
Go to the end of the earth and back again for her.

HOW TO IMPRESS A MAN

Show up naked.
Bring beer.


And you girls say that we are too difficult!!!!


Sixguns

TeufelHunden
07-13-02, 02:59 PM
...Too, too funny, but true Sixguns!

wrbones
07-13-02, 03:23 PM
...you present a challenge. I'm gonna enjoy this, as the other ladies around here have become entirely too predictable. You took me by surprise, darlin, this I will admit. I've had to change my strategy a little bit, and my original tactics have been set at some disarray. Would you like a look into the mirror? I will reveal things about yourself, to yourself that you have never known.......(insert evil laugh, here)

prmama
07-13-02, 03:42 PM
I can play your sick games. That is fine with me....... BRing it on hon. And for anyone that wants in on it. Well, we'll c about it.



Bones i can think like you too. There you go and hide from me.

wrbones
07-13-02, 05:46 PM
Subject: The blonde strikes again





A blonde was sitting in class when the professor asked her if she knew what the Roe vs Wade decision was.

She sat there for quite a while pondering this very profound question and finally sighed and said,

" I think that is the decision George Washington made prior to crossing the Delaware."

prmama
07-13-02, 09:13 PM
U would need to checkl this out. Or anyone that dares



Http://www.keenechat.com/aaa/




U will love it from someone that is sick in the head and it is a woman.



Heather

CAS3
07-13-02, 09:42 PM
I did as you had asked...the two requirements of impressing a man.

You,however, did NONE of the male requirements.
You should heed your own posts!;)

Sixguns
07-13-02, 09:46 PM
CAS,

You NEVER brought beer!!!!


Sixguns

CAS3
07-13-02, 09:48 PM
Couldn't find BALENTINE'S........LMAO

Sixguns
07-13-02, 09:54 PM
And you can't get those few things right!!

What man would be able to able to give you all those things??? Oh wait, maybe that's why finding a man is difficult for you!!!!

Sixguns

CAS3
07-13-02, 09:57 PM
It's not finding men that is the problem...
Its finding the UNmarried ones!! You know the type...they think you are awesome and then ooops...they are already involved...with their wives.

Sixguns
07-13-02, 10:02 PM
Maybe a new spot is what you need. Stop hanging out in the "Married but looking" chat rooms!!! Dumb Ass!!!

Sixguns

CAS3
07-13-02, 10:03 PM
Its not a chat room thing...it is the entire eastern seaboard...wannna move west..LMAO

Sixguns
07-13-02, 10:13 PM
I think we can legally be together there!!! They have all kinds of neat laws (or lack of them) there. They even sell steroids over the counter!!

Sixguns

CAS3
07-13-02, 10:17 PM
HEE HEE...Do you need steroids to BULK up?
There is one part of your body that doesn't need it..
Thats right ladies, pay attention...:p
Bruce is THE BOMB!!!


Bruce...
Now you owe me 20 bucks...
See how many emails you get from this one...:D

I would run away with you anyday as long as I get flowers!

Sixguns
07-13-02, 10:27 PM
Well, I'll get the flowers for you, but the minute you start referring back to that laundry list of other items we will be done. Youknow what they say about giving an inch? I'm not giving you the whole football field!!

I'm not paying you $20, but I assure you that you will be repayed.

Sixguns

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:15 AM
often you see only the surface of things as they really are......usually you see only that which you wish.....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:17 AM
reveals much about ourselves....our foolishness and vanity....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:24 AM
...about important issues

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:28 AM
...reveals much....stripping you to your essentials.

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:30 AM
you cannot resist the temptation to look...

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:32 AM
reveals more than we wish to see...both the light, and the dark sides of our nature....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:34 AM
,,, often more than you think you can explore.

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:37 AM
..as well as your lack of focus....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:43 AM
...the good and bad side of your personality.

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:45 AM
...the complex ...

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:46 AM
of the workings....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:48 AM
...your minds....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:49 AM
...your deepest desires.....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:51 AM
...dreams.....

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:52 AM
...it reveals that you're just an ass, like the rest of us! LMAO!

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:56 AM
...you ladies don't look too bad at all.

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:58 AM
...yer not!

prmama
07-14-02, 09:12 AM
Bones this is what I think of you. Remember I can play dirty too.



Just click here:

Http://www.debsfunpages.com/dirtyoldman.htm



Bones u would love it.
Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 09:26 AM
For all you women that are waiting for the perfect male to arrive.



Just Click here and see:


http://www.gotlaughs.com/humor/perfectman.stml



There is no perfect man.

Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 09:32 AM
It remeind me of you Bones or any man that challenges me.



Just click here:


http://www.gotlaughs.com/humor/ithappens.shtml



Bones you look so cute hon



Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 09:35 AM
Or here is another one that men r just full of themselves.



Just click here


http://www.gotlaughs.com/humor/men.cfm



Got to love me

Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 09:43 AM
After the bs that you say hon. Don't u wish that we change ya hon.



Just click here and see what I'm talking about



http://www.justsaywow.com/newfun4/manmorpher.cfm




Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 09:46 AM
Hmm that is a good question.



Ladies just click here and see if you agree with me.

http://www.justsaywow.com/news4/mjokes.cfm



hahahaha that is good

Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 09:59 AM
Here a little game to play for men and ladies. Have fun.


Click here

http://www.justsaywow.com/categories/fun/gendergame.cfm

I think this is true

Heather

prmama
07-14-02, 10:03 AM
Have you ever wondered if your mind is normal? Well, do this little mind exercise and find out! Free will or neurological wiring? You decide!


Try the following exercise, guaranteed to raise an eyebrow. There's no secret trick to it!


Just follow these instructions, and answer the questions one at a time and as quickly as you can. Remember, do it as quickly as you can, but don't advance until you've done each of them.


Now, scroll down (but not too fast, so you don't miss anything)...



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If not, you're among the 2% of the population whose minds are different enough to think something else. 98% of people will think of a carrot when they do this exercise!

wrbones
07-14-02, 01:57 PM
I was thinking of tomatos, what does that mean, darlin'? ;)

wrbones
07-14-02, 02:03 PM
If I weren't already married..... ...maybe we could all move to Utah.......

prmama
07-14-02, 02:08 PM
I love ya too. hon



Heather

wrbones
07-14-02, 06:37 PM
Make Me Feel Like A Woman



On a recent transatlantic flight, a plane passes through a severe storm.

The turbulence is awful, and things go from bad to worse when one wing is struck by lightning. One woman in particular loses it. Screaming, she stands up in the front of the plane. "I'm too young to die," she wails.
Then she yells, "Well, if I'm going to die, I want my last minutes on earth to be memorable!
Is there ANYONE on this plane who can make me feel like a WOMAN?"

For a moment there is silence. Everyone has forgotten their own peril.
They all stared, riveted, at the desperate woman in the front of the plane.

Then a man stands up in the rear of the plane. He is gorgeous, tall,built, with reddish-blond hair and hazel eyes, he starts to walk slowly up the aisle, unbuttoning his shirt...





......one button at a time.

























.......No one moves.





















.......He removes his shirt.














......Muscles ripple across his chest





























......he whispers:





































......"Iron this."

Sixguns
07-14-02, 08:20 PM
Iron it!!!!

That was a good one!! Great post, Bones!!!

Sixguns

prmama
07-14-02, 08:46 PM
a barber shop

A man enters a barber shop for a shave. While the barber is foaming him up, he mentions the problems he has getting a close shave around the cheeks.

"I have something for you," says the barber taking a small wooden ball from a nearby drawer.

"Just place this between your cheek and gum."

The client places the ball in his mouth and the barber proceeds with the best shave the man has ever experienced.

After a few strokes the client asks: "And what if I swallow it?"

"No problem," says the barber.

"Just bring it back tomorrow like everyone else does."

prmama
07-15-02, 08:51 AM
What is in the Mind of a male????? This is for adults only. Just a website jerry.

http://www.nuttypic.com/risque/malebrain/


Bones u know u love it.

SGT T
07-15-02, 09:47 AM
I CANT BELEIVE THIS IS STILL GOING ON .....I COULD OF SWORN THAT BONES' MORTARS TOOK THE LADIES LAST STRONG HOLD OUT....MAN LOOKS LIKE WE MAY NEED TO CALL IN SOME AIRSUPPORT

prmama
07-15-02, 10:46 AM
Have U thought that I would have given up by now. never. I just don't quit like that.

Heather

Sixguns
07-20-02, 03:23 PM
They're just ignoring you!!!!

Maybe we will entertain you with a few more responses before we crush you for your previous posts and links. Until then enjoy the silence, but remember, it won't last for long!!! Or you can consider this giving you a head start. You can run, but you can't hide!!! It's just a matter of time before you are gunned down!!

Have a nice day!!

wrbones
07-20-02, 03:35 PM
Stand by for incoming.

prmama
07-20-02, 03:46 PM
Would love anyone to change me. Especially bones hon. Bruce don't even got there
Heather

Sixguns
07-20-02, 03:51 PM
That's why this board is so great!!! I don't have to go there to get you back!! Even better than artillery fire and air support. Don't worry about me getting you, it's every man in this site!!!

wrbones
07-20-02, 03:57 PM
and from more than one source, that you recieved much help from others in some of your earlier posts here.I understand this. I understand both sides of that story. I was admittedly somewhat confused, for I am fairly good at reading people, and the nature of several of your posts had revealed my instincts to be true and good. Then there was a sudden change in the nature of your posts, revealing a vindictveness that was somewhat in the nature of what I had seen, but it also included a certain wittines that wasn't previously present. This was the help others had offered you. It is a compliment to me that others joined you in attempting to displace my mastery of this type of thread and the resultant fun we all enjoy with them. Your attacks have been more personally directed towards me, and not to men in general. This reveals more about you than you might wish. I do believe you will miss the lesson you are about to be party too. All you will see is an attack, and not revelation. I hope that I am wrong. The following is all tongue in cheek, but it's purpose is to reveal ourselves to ourselves. Relax and enjoy. Then think long and hard before you respond. The Dreamweaver and digger of ditches is at work.

Sixguns
07-20-02, 04:09 PM
Bones I thoroughly enjoyed your last post. Obviously, you have studied the character and demeanor of your subject. I too became aware of information that has altered my opinion of what has transpired during the course of this thread. My G-2 allowed me to better understand and see through the smokescreens that had been set up.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:22 PM
a most wonderful serenity and peace to the world....

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:26 PM
...that some have seen our inner being for what is really there.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:31 PM
...that the help and comfort of others is impossibly far away, there are means to communicate available. The distance can be spanned.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:33 PM
... overwhelming and seemingly impossible.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:34 PM
...and you are all alone....

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:36 PM
and nurse our damaged minds and bodies

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:38 PM
upon an uncaring world with an animalistic passion that is beyond the irrational.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:45 PM
...to us, world shattering disaster...

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:48 PM
...as far as the eye can see.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:50 PM
as an earth mother, with hidden abilities at peace and yet full of danger to those who oppose you.

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:51 PM
you dream....

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:53 PM
and haven from the darkness that is the world around you.

prmama
07-20-02, 04:54 PM
Yes, I do admite to getting little help. But To let u knopw that The inner beauty of one self is more important then those of the outer self. I love ya for making be a better person for it but realize that I don't get that much help from people. I'm not afraid of any come backs and trust me when we start all over again I will come back on top.
I do play dirty just like you. Over all it is all in fun here. Besides I've been leaving u along for awhile since u are not feeling good.

Heather

wrbones
07-20-02, 04:58 PM
...and full of the past....horror fills your soul at the sight of what you've become.

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:00 PM
...yet darkness and shadow surround.....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:02 PM
and you see no way out of the present torment.

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:03 PM
...out there....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:05 PM
...the darkness has become comfortable.....but the desire to be free has been supressed....even with the doors wide open....you cannot leave....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:08 PM
...of what we hope, and dream for ourselves....but it is unclear, dim, and wavering with the passing breezes of life....We cannot clearly see ourselves...and hope that others see us so....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:12 PM
...you reveal yourself again...in beauty and vulnerability.

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:14 PM
be at peace.

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:15 PM
...it is near to you if you would only see it......

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:18 PM
...your heart's desire....fantasy's should be for our night's dreams....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:20 PM
...while living in the midst of plenty.

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:22 PM
peace....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:23 PM
...true spirituality....

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:28 PM
...hillbilly wisdom.....if you can accept it.

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:32 PM
..or losing, you have already lost.Documentation from many sources can be given for my position. All you have to do is ask. I prefer the Jimmy Stewart school of thought. Revealing my point with little humorous stories......and in my case pictures. Be careful, darlin...you might hurt yourself here. I'm just holding the mirror.

prmama
07-20-02, 05:37 PM
Hon go and read ur playboy and sit on it. Cause this girl is back to play.
Heather

wrbones
07-20-02, 05:47 PM
or do you ignore that which is truth? Heather if you think I waste my time, be aware.....I see where this will go, and it will not be well for you to ignore me. Be careful, darlin. I do not want to see you hurt yourself.

wrbones
07-20-02, 06:21 PM
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We hear a lot about relationships with others and many times we can lose sight of the quality of the relationship we have with ourselves. There are times when the toxicity of our relationships with others is driven by the toxicity of the relationship with have with ourselves.

How many times do we discover, after ending a negative relationship that we feel better about ourselves when the relationship is over? How many times have you heard the sigh of relief when the relationship is over; the new lease on life, the joy, and the lightness of "being out of that one!"

When you are in a toxic relationship with yourself – as with many toxic substances – there are many signs that may suggest you may need an internal healing. Let’s take a look…

If you hear yourself always putting you down…



If you are noticing patterns in your life that leave you feeling unfulfilled, unhappy.



If you are abusing substances.



If you find it difficult to be with/without people.



If your friends/family are always angry with you. (There are lots of reasons for this – you must examine the causes).



If you are always angry with you – if you always feel angry at the world.



If you are second-guessing yourself a lot of the time.



If you are experiencing excessive self - blame and guilt.



If you are always tired.



If you are always tearful and sad – feeling hopeless and helpless much of the time.



If you always think that everything is everybody else’s fault.



If you live in fear.



If you are struggling with any of this things…consider individual and/or group therapy. When you are creating your own inner pain – the most important thing to remember (and initially the most difficult) is that you DO have choices; you DO NOT deserve the pain! While you may have learned many painful things about life as a child or even during recent adult experiences - you do have the right to work towards change if change is what you want.

wrbones
07-20-02, 06:29 PM
.


TEN QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF






... ABOUT A NEW RELATIONSHIP...



Use these questions as a starting point to help you determine whether you are about to step into a relationship that is likely to be positive or negative.



1. ARE YOU GIVING YOURSELF TIME TO LEARN YOUR NEW PARTNER?

Time is essential. If you are "in love" in a very short period of time....are you in love with love?



2. DO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF WHEN YOU ARE WITH YOUR PARTNER?

If being with your partner leaves you with a feeling of not wanting to be with yourself - there is definitely a problem. Pay attention!



3. DO YOU RESPECT EACH OTHER FOR WHO YOU ARE RIGHT NOW?

If you find yourself saying you would like your partner if only..., you may need to rethink the relationship.



4. DO YOU SHARE SIMILAR VALUES?

Never overlook the importance of having similar values. You do not have to be a carbon copy of each other, but if your values are in conflict, you may be headed for trouble .



5. DO YOU BOTH HAVE YOUR OWN FRIENDS?

DO NOT EVER give up your friends to focus exclusively on your relationship. DO NOT EVER enter into a relationship where giving up your friends is a requirement of the relationship.



6. DO YOU HAVE SIMILAR RELATIONSHIP GOALS?

If you know you are looking for one type of relationship - and your potential partner is looking for another, do not put yourself through the misery of trying to change your partner's mind! Find someone with like goals!



7. IS THE RELATIONSHIP ABLE TO WITHSTAND DISAGREEMENT?

If not - you are in trouble. No relationship is without some disagreement. The trick is to learn to engage in productive disagreements.



8. DO YOU HAVE SIMILAR VIEWS ABOUT FRIENDSHIPS?

This will give you some insight into your partner's views about the value and importance of others. Pay attention!



9. DO YOU AND YOUR PARTNER RESPECT EACH OTHER'S DIFFERENCES?

You MUST be in a respectful relationship - and you BOTH must be able to respect each other. Without respect, the relationship is unlikely to be able withstand many challenges.



10. DO YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THE RED FLAGS?

Define what your red flags are --- and then pay attention. Always. Do NOT assume that you are wrong or misinterpreting. If something comes up that feels like a red flag, talk with your partner, get more information, and then think honestly - about what you think.

wrbones
07-20-02, 06:41 PM
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ATTACK ON AMERICA

"THERE'S JUST ONE LITTLE PROBLEM" AUDIOTAPE

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COMMUNICATIONS HELP

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DEPRESSION

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VIOLENT CHILDREN Part 2

YOU AND YOUR CHILD






ANGER AWARENESS

ANGER MANAGEMENT



By Pamela Brewer, MSW, Ph.D., LCSW-C


Our lives have changed. As we now work to move forward, and “settle in” to an awareness of our new future, it is important to focus on self-care. We can do little for others if we forget to care for ourselves. As the shock now begins to be laced with anger, it is important to understand our anger and what to do with the feelings. Here are some ways to think about self-care:



Anger and hurt are flip sides of the same coin. If you are feeling hurt, you are experiencing anger. If you are experiencing anger - you are experiencing hurt.



Because the feeling of power is often preferable to the feeling of vulnerability – we often “opt” for the angry feelings.





Anger is a normal, natural human emotion.

You can choose to act on your anger or not. If your experience of your anger is that you can not choose, please meet with a mental health professional right away. There is help available to you.

Even as we experience anger, it is important to participate in daily routines as much as possible.

Do not minimize your pain or compare your pain to others. Ultimately, thiswill exacerbate your feelings of internalized anger and shame.

Continue to reach out to the children and actively listen to their thoughts. Let them know that it is okay to feel angry or fearful or both.

Develop a plan to be in touch with people you care about on a regular basis.

Express your range of emotions - showing care not to harm yourself or others.

Do not forget to find joy in small things - the rain, the sun, a smile - they can bring great pleasure.



Continue with your appropriate health routines.




Do not use this as a time to engage in substance abuse.




Pay attention to your own safety needs.




Do not allow your fear to turn to rage to turn into excuses to harm others.




Turn to writing in a journal as one of the tools you use for self-expression.




Do not try to deny the effects of the recent trauma on your emotional/ social functioning.




Avoid making significant life decisions right now – if possible.




For those who have experienced past traumas – this may be a more difficult time – you may wish to work with a mental health professional.




Anger is often a defense against hurt – if you feel your anger growing to the point that you want to harm yourself or others – seek professional assistance now.

prmama
07-20-02, 06:50 PM
Hon why don't you go back and crawl into the little hole that u been in. Got and read ur playboy. Cause it looks like to me that you are happier sitting there.

wrbones
07-20-02, 06:53 PM
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation
identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.
recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior
affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)
chronic feelings of emptiness
inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)
transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

wrbones
07-20-02, 06:57 PM
A pervasive and excessive need to be taken care of that leads to submissive and clinging behavior and fears of separation, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

has difficulty making everyday decisions without an excessive amount of advice and reassurance from others
needs others to assume responsibility for most major areas of his or her life
has difficulty expressing disagreement with others because of fear of loss of support or approval. Note: Do not include realistic fears of retribution.
has difficulty initiating projects or doing things on his or her own (because of a lack of self-confidence in judgment or abilities rather than a lack of motivation or energy)
goes to excessive lengths to obtain nurturance and support from others, to the point of volunteering to do things that are unpleasant
feels uncomfortable or helpless when alone because of exaggerated fears of being unable to care for himself or herself
urgently seeks another relationship as a source of care and support when a close relationship ends
is unrealistically preoccupied with fears of being left to take care of himself or herself

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:08 PM
A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

prmama
07-20-02, 07:14 PM
Hon U talk the talk but lets c if u can walk the walk. I c everyone is inpress with U. But we all know it is not true.

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:14 PM
Anxiety is as much a part of life as eating and sleeping. Under the right circumstances, anxiety is beneficial. It heightens alertness and readies the body for action. Faced with an unfamiliar challenge, a person is often spurred by anxiety to prepare for the upcoming event. For example, many people practice speeches and study for tests as a result of mild anxiety. Likewise, anxiety or fear and the urge to flee are a protection from danger.
Fears are not normal, however, when they become overwhelming and interfere with daily living. They are symptoms of an anxiety disorder, the most common and most successfully treated form of mental illness.

As a group, anxiety disorders afflict nearly nine percent of Americans during any six-month period. Symptoms can be so severe that patients are almost totally disabled--too terrified to leave their homes, to enter the elevator that takes them to their offices, to attend parties or to shop for food.

"Anxiety" is a word so commonly used that many people don't understand what it means in mental health care. Complicating matters is the fact that "anxiety" and fear are often used to describe the same thing. When the word "anxiety" is used to discuss a group of mental illnesses, it refers to an unpleasant and overriding mental tension that has no apparent identifiable cause. Fear, on the other hand, causes mental tension due to a specific, external reason, such as when your car skids out of control on ice.

The Disorders
"Anxiety disorders" refers to a group of illnesses: generalized anxiety disorder, phobias, panic disorders, post-traumatic stress disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorders. When people suffering from anxiety disorders talk about their condition, they often include these descriptions:

unrealistic or excessive worry
unrealistic fears concerning objects or situations
exaggerated startle reactions
"flashbacks" of past trauma
sleep disturbances
ritualistic behaviors as a way of with dealing with anxieties
shakiness
trembling
muscle aches
sweating
cold/clammy hands
dizziness
jitteriness
tension
fatigue
racing or pounding heart
dry mouth
numbness/tingling of hands, feet or other body part
upset stomach
diarrhea
lump in throat
high pulse and/or breathing rate
In addition, people suffering from anxiety disorders are often apprehensive and worry that something bad may happen to themselves or loved ones. They often feel impatient, irritable and easily distracted.

Generalized Anxiety Disorder
People with generalized anxiety disorder suffer with unrealistic or excessive anxiety and worry about life circumstances. For example, they may feel panicky about financial matters even though they have a good bank balance and have paid their debts. Or they may be preoccupied constantly about the welfare of a child who's safe at school. People with generalized anxiety disorder may have stretches of time when they're not consumed by these worries, but they are anxious most of the time. Patients with this disorder often feel "shaky," reporting that they feel "keyed up" or "on edge" and that they sometimes "go blank" because of the tension that they feel. They often suffer also with depression.

Phobias
This type of anxiety disorder afflicts over 12 percent of all Americans during their lifetimes. People who suffer from this illness feel terror, dread or panic when confronted with the feared object, situation or activity. Many have such an overwhelming desire to avoid the source of fear that it interferes with their jobs, family life and social relationships. They may lose their jobs because they can't go to business lunches for fear of eating in front of others. They may quit a job in a highrise office to work on the ground floor because they fear elevators. They may become so fearful of leaving their homes that they live like hermits. The following are common phobias:

Social phobia is the fear of situations in which a person can be watched by others, such as public speaking, or in which the behaviors which arise from the person's feelings might prove embarrassing, such as eating in public. It begins in late childhood or early adolescence.

Simple phobia is the fear of specific objects or situations that cause terror . The condition can begin at any age. Examples are fear of snakes, fear of flying, or fear of closed spaces. Some of these phobias are often normal in early childhood.

Agoraphobia, the fear of being alone or in a public place that has no escape hatch (such as a public bus), is the most disabling because victims can become housebound. The illness can begin any time from late childhood through early adulthood and, left untreated, worsens with time.

Panic Disorders
Panic disorders afflict 1.5 million Americans during any six-month period. Victims suddenly suffer intense, overwhelming terror for no apparent reason. The fear is accompanied by at least four of the following symptoms:

sweating
heart palpitations
hot or cold flashes
trembling
feelings of unreality
choking or smothering sensations
shortness of breath
chest discomfort
faintness
unsteadiness
tingling
fear of losing control, dying or going crazy
Often, people suffering a panic attack for the first time rush to the hospital, convinced they are having a heart attack. Sufferers can't predict when the attacks will occur. Certain situations, however, such as driving a car, can become associated with them if it was in those situations where the first attack occurred. Untreated, panic sufferers can despair and become suicidal.

Obsessive-Compulsive Disorders
Obsessive-compulsive disorders (OCD) afflict 2.4 million Americans. People with OCD suffer with obsessions, which are repeated, intrusive, unwanted thoughts that cause distress and extreme anxiety. They may also suffer with compulsions, which psychiatrists define as rituals--such as hand washing--that the person with the disorder goes through in an attempt toreduce his or her anxiety. People who suffer from obsessive disorders do not automatically have compulsive behaviors. However, most people with compulsions also have obsessions.

Victims of obsessions are plagued with involuntary, persistent thoughts or impulses that are distasteful to them. Examples are thoughts of violence or of becoming infected by shaking hands with others. These thoughts can be fleeting and momentary or they can be lasting ruminations.

The most common obsessions focus on a fear of hurting others or violating socially acceptable behavior standards such as swearing or making sexual advances. They also can focus on religious or philosophical issues, which the patient never resolves.

People with compulsions go through senseless, repeated and involuntary ritualistic behaviors which they believe will prevent or produce a future event. However, the rituals themselves have nothing to do with that event. For example, a person may constantly wash his or her hands or touch a particular object. Often, people with this disorder also suffer from a complementary obsession such as a worry over infection.

Examples of compulsive rituals include:

Cleaning , which affects women more often than men. If victims come in contact with any dirt, they may spend hours washing and cleaning even to the point that their hands bleed.
Repeating a behavior , such as repeatedly saying a loved one's name several times whenever that person comes up in conversation.
Checking , which tends to affect men more than women. For example, victims check and recheck that doors are locked or electric switches, gas ovens and water taps are turned off. Other patients will retrace a route they have driven to check that they did not hit a pedestrian or cause an accident without knowing it.
Obsessive-compulsive disorders often begin during the teens or early adulthood. Generally they are chronic and cause moderate to severe disability in their victims.

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:15 PM
Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)
Often associated with war veterans, post-traumatic stress disorder can occur in anyone who has experienced a severe and unusual physical or mental trauma. People who have witnessed a mid-air collision or survived a life-threatening crime may develop this illness. The severity of the disorder increases if the trauma was unanticipated. For that reason, not all war veterans develop PTSD, despite prolonged and brutal combat. Soldiers expect a certain amount of violence. Rape victims, however, are unsuspecting of the attack on their lives.

People who suffer from PTSD re-experience the event that traumatized them through:

Nightmares, night terrors or flashbacks of the event. In rare cases, the person falls into a temporary dislocation from reality in which he or she relives the trauma. This can last for seconds or days.
Psychic numbing," or emotional anesthesia. Victims have decreased interest in or involvement with people or activities they once enjoyed.
Excessive alertness and highly sharpened startle reaction. A car backfiring may cause people once subjected to gunfire to instinctively drop to the ground.
General anxiety, depression, inability to sleep, poor memory, difficulty concentrating or completing tasks, survivor's guilt.
Theories About Causes
Probably no single situation or condition causes anxiety disorders. Rather, physical and environmental triggers may combine to create a particular anxiety illness.

Psychoanalytic theory suggests that anxiety stems from unconscious conflicts that arose from discomfort during infancy or childhood. For example, a person may carry the unconscious conflict of sexual feelings toward the parent of the opposite sex. Or the person may have developed problems from experiencing an illness, fright or other emotionally laden event as a child. By this theory, anxiety can be resolved by identifying and resolving the unconscious conflict. The symptoms that symbolize the conflict would then disappear.

Learning theory says that anxiety is a learned behavior that can be unlearned. People who feel uncomfortable in a given situation or near a certain object will begin to avoid it. However, such avoidance can limit a patient's ability to live a normal life.

More recently, research has indicated that biochemical imbalances are culprits. Many scientists say all thoughts and feelings result from complex electrochemical interactions in the central nervous system. Moreover, some studies indicate that infusions of certain biochemicals can cause a panic attack in some people. According to this theory, treatment of anxiety should correct these biochemical imbalances. Although medications first come to mind with this theory, remember that studies have found biochemical changes can occur as a result of emotional, psychological or behavioral changes.

No doubt each of these theories is true to some extent. A person may develop or inherit a biological susceptibility to anxiety disorders. Events in childhood may lead to certain fears that, over time, develop into a full-blown anxiety disorder.

Treatments of Anxiety Disorders
Generally, anxiety disorders are treated by a combination approach. Phobias and obsessive-compulsive disorders often are treated by behavior therapy. This involves exposing the patient to the feared object or situation under controlled circumstances, until the fear is cured or significantly reduced. Successfully treated with this method, many phobia patients have long-term recovery.

Medications are effective treatments, sometimes used alone and often in combination with behavior therapy or other psychotherapy techniques. In addition to behavior modification techniques and medication, talking issues out in psychotherapy can be crucial.

There is good reason for optimism about treatment of even the most severe anxiety disorders. Research indicates that 65 percent of the phobic and obsessive-compulsive patients who can cooperate with the therapist and conscientiously follow instructions will recover with behavior therapy. Studies have shown that while they are taking the medications, 70 percentof the patients who suffer from panic attacks improve. Medication is effective for about half of those suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder.


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(c) Copyright 1988 American Psychiatric Association

Produced by the APA Joint Commission on Public Affairs and the Division of Public Affairs. This document contains text from a pamphlet developed for educational purposes and does not necessarily reflect opinion or policy of the American Psychiatric Association.

Revised 1994


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Additional Resources
Agras, M.W. Panic: Facing Fears, Phobias, and Anxiety . New York: W.H. Freeman, 1985.

Barlow, D. Anxiety and Its Disorders: the Nature and Treatment of Anxiety and Panic . New York: Guilford Press, 1988.

Barlow, D. and Cerny, J. The Psychological Treatment of Panic . New York: Guilford Press, 1988.

Beck, A. Anxieties and Phobias . New York: Basic Books, 1985.

Goodwin, D.W. Anxiety . New York: Oxford University Press, 1986.

Gorman, J. The Essential Guide to Psychiatric Drugs . New York: St. Martin's Press, 1990.

Greist, J., Jefferson, J. and Marks, I.M. Anxiety and Its Treatments: Help Is Available . Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, Inc., 1986.

Insel, T., ed. New Findings in Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder . Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, Inc., 1984.

Mathew, A.M., Gelder, M.G. and Johnston,D.W. Agoraphobia: Nature and Treatment . New York: Guilford Press, 1981.

National Phobia Treatment Directory (second edition). Anxiety Disorders Association, 1986.

Pasnau, R. Diagnosis and Treatment of Anxiety Disorders . Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, Inc., 1984.

Sheehan, D. The Anxiety Disease and How to Overcome It . New York: Bantam, 1990.

Zane, M. and Milt, H. Your Phobia . Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Press, Inc., 1984.

Other Resources:

Anxiety Disorders Association of America
(301) 231-9350

National Alliance for the Mentally Ill
(703) 524-7600

National Institute of Mental Health Information Resources and Inquiries Branch
(301) 443-4513

National Mental Health Association
(703) 684-7722

National Self-Help Clearinghouse
25 West 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036
(212) 354-8525

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:18 PM
NECROFILE

Complaints of a co-dependent
BY DONNA LYPCHUK
Every time I break up with somebody, it takes me ages to get over it. I read in Psychology Today that it's supposed to take half the duration of the relationship for your heart to heal. If you were with someone for five years, for example, it would take you two and half to heal. In my case, though, it seems to be the inverse ratio. I was with my first boyfriend for 10 years. That means I won't get over it for 20. I refuse to let it go. To quote Hunter S. Thompson, "If it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it."

Isn't it more healthy to kill the thing you love than let it stomp all over you? Did the person who abandoned you think about live-and-let-live, or did he deliberately attempt to destroy your well-being? In the natural world, I'm sure the penalty for such willful destruction and abandonment of the nest is death. When a man leaves you for another woman, isn't he really denying you the right to bear progeny? Being basically a beast, do I not have a right to my homicidal urges toward the other woman and the Judas ex-boyfriend?

Did women in prehistoric times have a good attitude toward the other woman, or did they hit them in the head with a rock? In this day and age, some people switch partners as easily as long-distance companies, and give no more thought to it. This, I suppose, is the height of non-co-dependent behaviour.

Over the years I have collected a number of platitudes that are supposed to comfort me during my hours of darkness. One I find particularly frustrating is: "Don't worry, he's only going to do to her what he did to you." This is supposed to comfort me? Instead it gets me obsessing about the honeymoon phase of the relationship, which I quite enjoyed.

Then there's the Codependent No More advice, which suggests that you can avoid post-coital pain by practising HALT -- never getting Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired. This fills me with rage. It's hard not to be hungry, angry, lonely or tired if the guy left you to pay the rent and bad-mouthed you to your friends, unless your name happens to be Onassis. Most women live in a much harsher reality; you met the guy to alleviate your hunger, anger, loneliness and tiredness in the first place.

The Christian/new age approach says you took in a stray and fed him in the hope that one day he would become strong enough to reciprocate your love. Instead, he gathered the strength to walk out. New agers and Christians encourage you to be a saint, and give love "unconditionally." But I am not a holy being. I am human. Acting like a martyr only reinforces that victim position that feminists find so disgusting. That is why most women, when their boyfriend doesn't call when he's supposed to, start hoping he has been in some kind of terrible accident rather than being so pleasantly distracted that he can't pick up the phone.

I also hate the reincarnation theories about karma: "Because the matter was left unresolved in this life, you are sure to meet him again in the next life" (don't get me hoping), or "This happened to you because you were mean to him in a past life and he is getting even." Talk about blaming the victim. I remember one philosophical friend telling me, "Things end. Even the most beautiful piece of birthday cake spoils if it is left out in the sun." Uh, ever heard of Saran Wrap? How about putting that cake in the freezer, like my parents' (who have been together over 50 years) wedding cake?

Zen Buddhists will tell you to detach from your emotions, saying, "The trees don't get sad in the autumn when they lose their leaves... why should you?" Because I am not a tree. Then there's the patronizing "You have to shut the door on the past before another door will open." What architect from hell designed that one? Why can't we leave all our doors (i.e., options) open? Doesn't that contradict the saying "Don't burn your bridges"? Only in love are you encouraged to burn a bridge, especially if there's too much water under it.

If you've really been wronged by your man, there's the old "If you sit by the river long enough, the body of your enemy will come floating 'round." Do people think that is what the heartbroken person wants to see? Why can't he come floating down the river on a raft, waving and smiling and beckoning you to get on so you can both sail into the sunset?

As a co-dependent, my favourite complaint is about "Time heals all." Time is not a healer. Time is evil's best ally. If we all just let it go and forget, evil is allowed to repeat itself again and again. This is why I will never let it go. Remembering is the only way to break the pattern.

prmama
07-20-02, 07:20 PM
U look more like this:

prmama
07-20-02, 07:22 PM
Then again, you look like the perfect male:

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:23 PM
Co-Dependencies

The definition of co-dependency is more of an understanding of a concept. As a result of its complexities, a simple definition is not suitable. However, when one is able to understand the many concepts, then a definition becomes clear. Simply stated, co-dependency/co-dependencies is a pattern of habitual self-defeating coping mechanisms. This is a result of coming out of an alcoholic or drug addicted home or otherwise preoccupied family. In these types of homes there are three messages:

a. don't talk

b. don't feel

c. don't trust

In a healthy family, members can talk, can feel, and they can tell the truth. Living in an environment where one feels as if they're constantly "walking on egg shells" and "waiting for the other shoe to drop" causes a great deal of stress and anxiety. This stress/anxiety is heightened when there are rigid, inflexible rules and belief systems imposed on people trapped in one of these families. As a result, the co-dependent develops habitual self-defeating coping mechanisms in an attempt to survive: such as - my fear of rejection determines what I say or do or, I like to avoid your anger. Further to this, these mechanisms cause the co-dependent to be out of touch with who they are because they have been in a mind altering experience.

Co-dependency is multi-generational and can be present even when there is no active drinking. The alcoholism and alcoholic traits plus the co-dependent's behaviour can be passed from one generation to another until an addiction and/or another co-dependency will develop.

Co-dependency is a disease which has, as its basis, a dysfunctional family of origin.

Who Can Become a Co-dependent?

Where do we need to look for this dysfunctional behaviour of emerging patterns of co-dependency? We will find it in a person who is alcoholic or non-alcoholic who has been adversely influenced by the following people:

a. Alcoholic or drug dependent parent

b. Co-dependent parent

c. The alcoholic or non-alcoholic who has an addicted spouse

d. Someone who has an addicted child

e. A co-dependent spouse

The end result is an inability to maintain functional relationships. In fact, co-dependents don't have relationships so much as they take "hostages". This latter statement will become more clear as we later examine characteristics of co-dependency.

Most co-dependents have been searching for ways to overcome the dilemmas of the conflicts in their relationships and their childhood. Many were raised in families where addictions existed - some were not. Many were later influenced by an addicted or co-dependent person. In either case, the reality in co-dependent's lives is that co-dependency is a most deeply rooted compulsive behaviour and that it is borne out of sometimes moderately, sometimes extremely dysfunctional family systems.

Co-dependents have each experienced in their own ways the painful trauma of the emptiness of their childhood and relationships throughout their lives. They attempted to use others, their mates, friends and even their children as their sole source of identity, value and well being and, as a way of trying to restore within themselves the emotional losses from their childhood. Their histories may include other powerful addictions, which at times, they have used to cope with their co-dependencies. The bottom line here is that the addictions that manifest themselves may possibly be, symptoms of a co-dependent personality.

Stages of Co-Dependency

The three stages of co-dependency are as follows:

1. Early: In this early stage, the co-dependent learns how to cope, and here the acceptance of drinking as normal takes place. They constantly try to help out a sick or addicted person.

2. Middle: Here there is habitual self defeating coping mechanisms, when the coping mechanisms don't work the co-dependent does more, takes on more responsibility. They adopt their behaviour to accommodate the heavy drinking. The focus is on the drinking.

3. Control: Here there is total family collapse and family degeneration. There is continual self-defeating behaviour.

The whole process is circular and rotate within the family from person to person. What we want to do in treatment is help each other to get out of this circular motion.

We need to look at stress and how we react to it. Stress is a non specific demand on the body by positive and negative forces. It is not bad by itself and it cannot be avoided, but we can understand the cycle of stress. Initially, an event takes place and we go down and don't cope so we have a dip or a valley. Then when we over cope and later come back down to some sort of normal state, we never reach the same base line again. Something we need to remember is that stress is like the wind, you do not see it, but you see its effects as it passes by.

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:24 PM
Dynamics of Co-Dependents

1. Out of touch with their own experience: They have been in a mood altering experience, and this leads to neglect of their needs. We normally say things such as "I used to do that at one time", etc.

2. Their feelings are discounted: They do not know how they have the right to feel. They show anger a great deal which protects them from exhibiting other feelings.

3. A great deal of emotional pain.

4. Learned not to ask for help: They have overwhelming feelings of being on their own and you should never ask for help because then you really are on your own.

5. Not able to get needs met: Not only are they not able to get their needs met, they can't even identify

their needs.

6. They mistake feelings: They mistake feelings such as control for security, intensity for intimacy

and obsession for fear.

7. They have extreme high tolerance for inappropriate behaviour.

8. Co-dependents feel terrible with their feelings of anger that they need to suppress all the time.

9. They do recognize what has happened to their own health. They believe the alcoholic has the problem.

10. Co-dependents adjust constantly but never make any real changes.

11. Co-dependents are compulsive about pretending: They do not tell the truth, they react constantly to the alcoholic and other people and always put up the front that everything is OK.

12. They get very defensive about trying to control their feelings.

13. Co-dependencies are infectious: Others that are vulnerable will get pulled in easily.

14. They come to know that the reason things are bad is because of them: Co-Dependent Characteristics

a. My good feelings about who I am stem from being liked by you.

b. My good feelings about who I am stem from receiving approval by you.

c. Your struggle affects my serenity. My mental attention focuses on solving your problems or relieving your pain.

d. My mental attention is focused on pleasing and protecting you.

e. My mental attention is focused on manipulating you (to do it my way)

f. My self-esteem is bolstered by solving your problems and relieving your pain.

g. My own hobbies and interests are put aside. My time is spent sharing your interests and hobbies.

h. Our clothing and personal appearance are dictated by my desires as I feel you are a reflection of me.

i. Your behaviour is dictated by my desires as I feel you are a reflection of me.

j. I am not aware of how I feel. I am aware of how you feel.

k. I am not aware of what I want. I ask what you want. I am not aware - I assume.

l. The dreams I have for the future are linked to you.

m. My fear of rejection determines what I say or do.

n. I use giving as a way of feeling safe in our relationship.

o. My social circle diminishes as I involve myself with you.

p. I put my values aside in order to connect with you.

q. I value your opinion and way of doing things more than my own.

r. The quality of my life is in relation to the quality of yours.

Part of the recovery process is when we can see and acknowledge our behaviour. Be patient, live and let God, and, above all, be good to yourself.

Here are some daily affirmations that will assist in getting in touch with you.

Just for Today I will respect my own and other's boundaries.

Just for Today I will be vulnerable with someone I trust.

Just for Today I will take one compliment and hold it in my heart for more than just a fleeting moment. I will let it nurture me.

Just for Today I will act in a way that I would admire in someone else.

I am a precious person

I am a worthwhile person

I am beautiful inside and outside

I love myself unconditionally

I have ample leisure time without feeling guilty

I am loved because I deserve love

I forgive myself for hurting myself and others

I forgive myself for letting others hurt me

I forgive myself for accepting sex when I wanted love

I am willing to accept love

I am not alone, I am one with God and the universe.

NOTE:

If you find yourself relating to any of the above there is help:

1. There are 12 step support groups in many cities.

2. In Alberta, AADAC holds free information sessions that look into the CODA issue. Call the AADAC recovery centre nearest you and they will be very helpful. The information sessions are excellent!

prmama
07-20-02, 07:25 PM
Your dream girl would scare everyone that contacts u.

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:28 PM
The Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous



he relative success of the A.A. program seems to be due to the fact that an alcoholic who no longer drinks has an exceptional faculty for "reaching" and helping an uncontrolled drinker.

The heart of the suggested program of personal recovery is contained in Twelve Steps describing the experience of the earliest members of the Society:

1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol - that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

The twelve step program has been used successfully in other areas of human difficulties. This is because it is a spiritually based pragmatic approach to living. These step can be found in your "Bible". What I call the book. It's a little harder to see them in there. Our traditions and doctrines get in the way of the truth.

prmama
07-20-02, 07:28 PM
U talk so much on disorders. How about seeing u for what u r? With the Misses telling everyone that U need to do more.

prmama
07-20-02, 07:31 PM
In reality I c ya begging for someone to help ya.

wrbones
07-20-02, 07:31 PM
...from this point on is only to your detriment. It is not my peurpose to gain the good will of others, however, you are beginning to reveal yourself to them. Many have not been impressed. Please, darlin. Let it go. ...and learn.

prmama
07-20-02, 07:32 PM
U needs someone to tell ya that U been a bad boy or in this case a bad elegrant.

prmama
07-20-02, 07:35 PM
Go into the refig and get urself somthing to drink. Have a cold one for me.

prmama
07-20-02, 07:36 PM
Go to lay down with the Misses. Cause I do believe that she missed ya.

wrbones
07-20-02, 09:49 PM
... I can play "poor innocent me" better than you can darlin. I'm already way ahead of you. Go back and read, dear. I addressed that in an earlier post today.