View Full Version : Marines Killing Civilians? What?
Kildars
10-07-06, 01:20 PM
Since I am only allowed to post here I figured I'd post this link for discussion, I think I need to hear what other Marines think about this, what do you think should happen to the Marines in this article? I think they deserve whatever comes at them what they did is totally unnecessary and unexcusable, if they're found guilty. The fact that they think it's so inconsequential just blows my mind. This is not what the Marine Corps stands for, and why people do this is just beyond me. I hope I'm allowed to post this, if I'm not just delete it.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/10/06/marines.iraq.ap/index.html
I dont know what to believe in this story. there are so many different possibilities on what could have happened. Bacos could have just been looking for the easy way out and lied in order to shorten his sentence to one year. The story is 1 against 7.
Or, he could be telling the truth. There were 3 shots to his head, and 7-10 more shots to the chest...thats an awful lot.
This case is simply going to come down to evidence because its hard to base a case on a "he said, she said" type of deal.
If this case is true, then those Marines deserve to go to prison. Marines do not kill civilians. I just hope their sentence is based on solid evidence and not on the testimony of one person.
Master Sephiroth
10-07-06, 03:44 PM
Innocent until proven guilty.
Kildars
10-07-06, 03:49 PM
So I was browsing in the open squad bay and I guess there is a big controversy over this and these 8 men, well now 7 since the corpsman turned his back and pleaded out are being held and their rights are not being respected.
Echo_Four_Bravo
10-07-06, 06:50 PM
Yeah, I am pretty sure they didn't commit any crimes, but that they will be offered as a sacrifice to the media because the people with power don't have what it takes to stand up and tell them no.
Unfortunately, these 7 Marines won't be the first, nor the last of our servicemembers to be charged and found guilty and imprisoned for political reasons...innocent or not....
Born Invincible
10-07-06, 09:00 PM
unfortunately for all of them there was a video. unfortunately for all but the corpsman it is now evidence.
SgtGorman
10-07-06, 10:57 PM
Marines kill Iraqi Civilian is B.S. What is the purpose of war? What is the difference between Iraqi Insurgent and Vietnam Vietcong? They are damn Civilian, but was trained to be a combatants. If we don't kill them, they'll kill us.
Marine84
10-08-06, 09:41 AM
It is NOT BS fraser! Think about it, you're in a foreign country where EVERYBODY is trained to fight - you do not know going around one corner or another WHO will try to kill you. Better THEM than YOU, you think?
I say kill 'em all and let GOD sort 'em out! They ALL went through it TOGETHER - this Corpsman should have kept his pie hole shut. Eventually this whole thing would have blown over - they would have probably lost this jail time and that would have been it.
The worst thing about this is how the Corpsman sold out his Marines. That Corpsman will never be able to go to another unit in the Corps.
The media needs to get the hell out of Iraq and stop jeopardizing the mission.
Echo_Four_Bravo
10-08-06, 11:18 PM
The video means nothing to me, and I hope it won't matter to the members of the courts martial that are selected to judge these men. They killed terrorists, which is what they're supposed to be doing. Now, because those on the left want to make a splash, they're going to go down for it. I think we should put a medal on their chest and tell them well done!
Now, I suppose there is about a 1% chance that I am wrong and that these people really were innocent. If so, I really feel bad for them and their families. However, "fog of war" is a fact of life. I'm not sure it can be described as a criminal action though.
Smalcom
10-09-06, 12:19 AM
SH** happens... Marine kill people, theres probably more to the situation then what they are telling us, im sure it was legit
It is NOT BS fraser! Think about it, you're in a foreign country where EVERYBODY is trained to fight - you do not know going around one corner or another WHO will try to kill you. Better THEM than YOU, you think?
I say kill 'em all and let GOD sort 'em out! They ALL went through it TOGETHER - this Corpsman should have kept his pie hole shut. Eventually this whole thing would have blown over - they would have probably lost this jail time and that would have been it.i was saying that the whole situation was not worth it because you can expect casualties in war
Rules for the War on Terrorism:
U.S: You will wear uniforms, give P.O.W's the basic human needs, and play by the rule book.
Al-Quadia: You will wear civilian clothes, behead P.O.W's, and burn the rulebook!
(Got that from the Navy Times. My Dad's a retired "Squid")
ckkinders
10-16-06, 12:33 PM
Innocent until proven guilty.
unfourtunately this is not true anymore. In my opinion the general public should have no knowledge of this situation until everything is setteled. These things should not be allowed on tv or newspapers or magazines until the trial is over and everything else is over. The media is rediculous...I often wonder whose side they are on because they are certainly NOT bias towards the United States and OUR military! Why don't they ever talk about the GOOD things that are going on over there??? Why don't they ever talk about OUR military giving up their lives to make that country a better place? Or how about the fact that they are fighting for the rest of our country's FREEDOM!!!
Kildars
10-16-06, 01:14 PM
unfourtunately this is not true anymore. In my opinion the general public should have no knowledge of this situation until everything is setteled. These things should not be allowed on tv or newspapers or magazines until the trial is over and everything else is over. The media is rediculous...I often wonder whose side they are on because they are certainly NOT bias towards the United States and OUR military! Why don't they ever talk about the GOOD things that are going on over there??? Why don't they ever talk about OUR military giving up their lives to make that country a better place? Or how about the fact that they are fighting for the rest of our country's FREEDOM!!!
Because the Media needs ratings, and people feast on tragedy and bad things that occur, positive things are boring. The Media is a prosecutor, whether it's the enemy or our country they're prosecuting. Anything to get a story.
Master Sephiroth
10-16-06, 02:54 PM
It's disgraceful.