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thedrifter
01-14-03, 06:42 AM
Everyone was issued dress blues.
You kept your rifle in the barracks.
Your 782 gear did not wear out.
Mess halls were mess halls (NOT dining facilities).
No vandalism wrecked the barracks.
Everyone was a Marine and his ethnic background was unimportant.
We had heroes.

Chaplains didn't teach leadership to the experts.
Getting high meant getting drunk.
Beer was 25 cents at the slopchute.
Skivvies had tie-ties.
We starched our khakis and looked like hell after sitting down the first time.
We wore the short green jacket with the winter uniform.
We wore Sam Browne belts and sharpened one edge of the buckle for the bad fights.
We kept our packs made up and hanging on the edge of the rack.
We spit-shined shoes.
Brownbaggers' first concern was the Marine Corps.
Generals cussed.

Generals paid more attention to the Marine Corps than to politics.
UA meant being a few minutes late from a great liberty, and only happened once per career.
Brigs were truly "correctional" facilities.
Sergeants were gods.

The tips of the index and middle fingers of one hand were constantly black from Kiwi shoe polish.
We scrubbed the wooden decks of the barracks with creosole.
We had wooden barracks.
Privates made less than $100.00 a month.
Privates always had money.
You weren't transported to war by Trans World or Pan American airlines.

Barracks violence was a fight between two buddies who were buddies when it was over.
Larceny was a civilian crime.
Every trooper had all his gear.
Marines had more uniforms than civilian clothes.
Country and western music did not start race riots in the clubs.
We had no race riots because we had no recognition of races.
Marine Corps birthdays were celebrated on 10 November no matter what day of the week it may have been (except Sunday).
Support units supported.

The supply tail did not wag the maintenance dog.
The 734 form was the only supply document.
You did your own laundry, including ironing.
You aired bedding.
Daily police of outside areas was held although they were always clean.
Field stripping of cigarette butts was required.
Everyone helped at field day.
A tour as Duty NCO was an honor.
Everyone got up a reveille.

We had bugle calls.
Movies were free.
Movies cost 10 cents, 50 cents, or $1.00
PX items were bargains.
Parking was the least of problems.
Troops couldn't afford cars.
You weren't married unless you could afford it.
Courts-martial orders were read in battalion formations.
A bum didn't have a BCD awarded more than once or twice before he actually got it.

We had the "Rocks and Shoals."
Courts-martial were a rarity.
Marines receiving BCDs were drummed out the gate.
NCOs and officers were not required to be psychologists.
The mission was the most important thing.

Marines could shoot
Marines had a decent rifle.
The BAR was the mainstay of the fire team.
Machine gunnery was an art.
Maggie's drawers meant a miss and was considered demeaning as hell to the dignity of the shooter.
Carbide lamps blackened sights.
We wore leggings and herringbone utilities.
We had machine gun carts.
We mixed target paste in the butts.
We had to take and pass promotion tests.
We really had equal opportunity.

Sickbays gave APCs for all ailments.
We had short-arm inspections.
The flame tank was in the arsenal of weapons.
We had unit parties overseas with warm beer and no drugs.
Marines got haircuts.
Non-judicial punishment was non-judicial.
The squad bay rich guy was the only one with a radio.
If a Marine couldn't make it on a hike, his buddies carried his gear and helped him stumble along so that he wouldn't have to fall out.
The base legal section was one or two clerks and a lawyer.
We had oval dog tags.
Marine wore dog tags all the time.

We spit-shined shoes and BRUSH-shined boots.
We wore boondockers.
We starched field scarves.
We worked a five and one-half day week.
Everyone attended unit parties.
In the field we used straddle trenches instead of "Porta-Potties."
Hitch-hiking was an offense.
We used Morse Code for difficult transmissions.
The oil burning tent stove was the center of social activity in the tent.
We had unit mail call.
We carried swagger sticks.
We had Chesty Puller.

Greater privileges for NCOs were not a "right."
EM Clubs were where you felt at home...and safe.
We sailed on troopships,
We rode troop trains.
Sentries had some authority.
Warrant Officers were not in their teens.

Mess hall "Southern cooking" was not called "soul food."
Marines went to chapel on Sundays.
Weekend liberty to a distant place was a rarity.
The color of a Marine's skin was of no consequence.
The Marine Corps was a big team made up of thousands of little teams.
We landed in LCVPs and always got wet.
We debarked from ship by means of nets over the side.
We had platoon virgins.
We had parades.

We had pride.
We had Esprit de Corps.

A Marine stood by what he said and was never afraid to put his or her name to it.
Marines didn't judge other Marines by saying "can they do it?" but rather they completed tasks by saying, "this is how we are going to do it".
Marines didn't feel the need to be heroes, being a Marine was hero enough.



Sempers,

Roger



"This modern tendency to scorn and ignore tradition and to sacrifice it to administrative convenience is one that wise men will resist in all branches of life, but more especially in our military life."
(Sir Archibald Wavell: Address to the officers of the Canadian Black Watch, Montreal, 1949)

firstsgtmike
01-14-03, 07:23 AM
Roger,

I only missed four from the list: Swagger Sticks, Sam Browne Belts, Rocks & Shoals, and leggings.

That's past tense.

Present tense, is that I miss them ALL.

SHOOTER1
01-14-03, 10:42 PM
I missed the skivvies with tie ties,what is that? ,Herringbone utes, altho i have a set now, leggings, Ike jacket creosole ,and i was paid 72.00 a month, did carry Swagger Stick, in Nam, so youre telling me that all the rest is gone now, no way. Good Memories tho.

Lock-n-Load
01-15-03, 12:56 AM
:marine: I was issued 6 pair of white/boxer skivvies in Dec50 at Parris Island....there were two [2] strings on side of hips in order for you to secure wet skivvies to some extension to ...dry....also our pltn had 6 boots that failed to qualify on record/day at Rifle Range...as soon as DIs picked up their skinheads, they immediately wanted to know who DIDN'T qualify....those 6 had to wear...skivvies tied in front as a bib to every chow/call before we marched back to Mainside...and the unholy 6 were to march behind the boot pltn shouting, "We are shltbirds;we failed to qualify"...is this practice still in vogue at MCRDs :marine:

Lock-n-Load
01-15-03, 01:27 AM
I remember when...rollcall sounded at 5am every morning...after formation there was a mad rush to the head for our daily shave...we had 89 starting out and there were 9 double-edge blades issued...10 Boots to a line...if you were last Boot you had a rough-ass shave...we had 20 minutes to get shaving detail done...the DIs picked up all nine blades personally:marine:

SHOOTER1
01-15-03, 09:12 PM
Thanks Lock-n-Load, im still learning stuff day to day, i think im glad i didnt find out what they were when i was in. we were each issued razors and a can of shaving cream, being part Indian, i was still using the same can of shaving cream when i left for Nam, 3 years later, and hadent used up all the blades when mustered out , 4 yrs 3 mo later, only had to shave about twice a week, Ha Ha aint i lucky.

dibob
01-15-03, 11:29 PM
Excuse the nit-pick, but the tie-ties on the sides of the skivvie drawers were to adjust the waist size. The tie-ties for laundry was a seperate piece of cord and each tie-tie was measured by a metal clip. You cut each tie-tie from the cord depending on where the small metal clip was.

Lock-n-Load
01-16-03, 07:24 AM
You are correct, and you made my day...I was inconclusive... but happy as a hog for reminding myself...I am still human...Barbasol shaving cream was official issue, to me, it was just watered/down foam...from the Boot awakening process...I never purchased that product since. Semper Fi :marine:

Lock-n-Load
01-16-03, 07:38 AM
You were most fortunate in the shaving department...ONE of our DIs would check each Boot's face, and if he found you skipped shaving that morning here's what the penalty was for two [2] Boots one morning...the platoon lined up in separate columns on the Company street...the 2 non-shavers had to put their alunimum wash bucket over their heads and dry shave the other...doing double time and singing the Marine Corps Hymn; needless, to say, both reported for sickbay call...it was a graphic reminder to all...to shave every morning or else!! Parris Island,SC [Dec1950]:marine:

Barrio_rat
01-16-03, 10:16 AM
Barbasol is great as a polish remover when reconditioning boots. Also, it gets the old, built up polish out of the brushes.

Lock-n-Load
01-16-03, 12:12 PM
:marine: Hear...hear...hear....thx for the update...no wonder they didn't go Chapter #11...glad it is useful on other surfaces...Semper Fi:marine:

mardet65
01-20-03, 02:51 PM
When I went through PI in '65 some recruits still received brown rough leather boots and brown Marine Corps Emblems. Of course they had to em-new the emblems black and use black kiwi on the boots which were shined using the rounded edge of a small bottle to get gid of the roughness of the leather. I also recall when office hours before the CO literally meant; Come in Cpl., Sit down L/Cpl., Get out of here PFC.