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10thzodiac
08-29-06, 01:06 PM
I have to go in for a cat scan of my sinuses (head) in a couple of hours. I've been resisting this with the doctors both VA & private because of to much radiation and I canceled one appointment last week already. I had two cat scans of my head and neck three years ago due to a head on collision and was knocked out. On the INTERNET they say one head cat scan is equal to 115 chest x-rays, ouch! My private doctor tells me it's about 3-4. He also said you can x-ray the crap out of a head because the tissues grow so slowly there.

My daughter just called and said her hair dresser told her she just had a client who had a head cat scan the day before and when she went to put foil on her hair, her hair began to smoke and she had to remove the foil and told her to come back when the radiation is out of her system.

I don't know what to do now, sh*t or go blind! Headaches or radiation-induced cancer risk

Don't disappoint me now, I know what a few of you that love me are going to say, but there is one thing none of us can't do, not die :banana: bring it on.

thedrifter
08-29-06, 02:16 PM
We sometimes have to do things, even though we really don't want to..

If it saves my life, or helps change the condition I would go for it...

I just had an MRI last week, since my left arm and hand went dead..It feels like it is sleeping.
Just got the report back and need to see a specialist..

Now I have to find out my options...
I didn't like what they already stated...but I might have too...

Ellie

rktect3j
08-29-06, 02:32 PM
Usually when the doctor tells me to do something I go and do it. Usually.

Camper51
08-29-06, 04:11 PM
Since when is your daughter's f*cking hairdresser smarter than a doctor?

I don't think I would believe that story at all.

You are so insistent on "checking the facts" I am surprised you did not check that one out with the professionals who do this type of work day after day, or at least the AMA.

I would certainly be "consumer wise" but not stupid... If the medical procedure is going to help diagnose the problem, and it is the correct procedure to follow, why would you even consider NOT doing it?

Marine84
08-29-06, 05:27 PM
I went through the same thing a year ago with a breast (yes ya'll one of the twins has a little glitch) - before that I hadn't seen a doctor in 8 years or so - I worried myself sick (literally) because I didn't want to know but I wanted it out at the same time. DO IT! Just don't get a perm too close to the time you get the scan done and you'll be OK (I know, you probably don't have enough hair to perm anyway :p ). If you pass out, you'll be in a medical facility - what better place to pass out if you had your picks?

Better to know and be able to do something about it than not know and it turn into something major down the road. Good luck man and let me know what you decide.

10thzodiac
08-29-06, 07:44 PM
After the VA doctor, I got a second opinion from our family doctor who told me that I may have a bacterial, viral, fungus infection or polups... or something else and to get the cat scan the VA...

10thzodiac
08-30-06, 10:55 AM
My VA doctor called me at 8:30 am with the test results from the cat scan. The good news is that my brain scan is OK (argumentative) but all my sinuses are totally messed up. Test Inconclusive if anti-biotic regimen appropriate now. She is now sending me to VA ENTspecialist. In the mean time sending out VA sinus pain meds and I'm to start using nasal sprays.

I know this is not that serious (I think) as compared to problems of others. I never intended to make a big deal out of this. but maybe this will help others, God forbid someone of you gets something like this. I use to weather out bad colds, my advice now, is see the doctor right away and avoid what I'm going through. Meds for pain are taking longer to work now as compared to when I first started.

Thanks everybody for your support!

SF:usmc:

Richard

rktect3j
08-30-06, 11:16 AM
I don't know if this helps or not. I get a lot of sinus infections myself. I was told by my doctor that the more infections you get and the more meds you take for this the smaller your sinuses/tubes, to relieve the sinus buildup, become. Thus more blockage and more pain. I was told of a new procedure that they send a thin wire with a tube thru the sinus and then blow up the tube like a baloon in order to stretch the sinus. Just an fyi. Like I said I do not know if that helps any. Maybe look into that if this is something you are suffering from.

10thzodiac
08-30-06, 11:49 AM
I don't know if this helps or not. I get a lot of sinus infections myself. I was told by my doctor that the more infections you get and the more meds you take for this the smaller your sinuses/tubes, to relieve the sinus buildup, become. Thus more blockage and more pain. I was told of a new procedure that they send a thin wire with a tube thru the sinus and then blow up the tube like a baloon in order to stretch the sinus. Just an fyi. Like I said I do not know if that helps any. Maybe look into that if this is something you are suffering from.

What you say sure makes allot of sense to me. I know that Afrin decongestant spray can make your sinuses addicted to it. Thanks for the heads up about the balloon procedure. I also read on Yahoo medical questions recently they are having success with new steroid sprays.

For the longest time I thought I had feelings of depression. It is turning out that I've probably had this sinus stuff along time before the month long head cold that started in the middle of March. I did notice in the past years if I got a headache I'd take a couple of Benadryl® Allergy & Sinus Headache Caplet (http://www.pfizerch.com/product.aspx?id=250) and not only did the pain go away, I didn't have any feelings of depression anymore and felt reborn.

Hope your sinus get better too, brother!

SF

Richard

Camper51
08-30-06, 04:37 PM
10thzodiac, I hope all goes well. Nothng like a good sinus headache to just ruin the sh*t out of your day...

10thzodiac
08-30-06, 06:33 PM
10thzodiac, I hope all goes well. Nothng like a good sinus headache to just ruin the sh*t out of your day...

The Meds just kicked in all the way a little while ago. I had very little restful sleep last night. I did feel good enough to walk around the park this afternoon for awhile. My Japanese wife is up everyday at 5:30 and walks for two hours then waits on me hand and foot all day. It took President Johnson's intervention to get us married (Marine Corps problems), we still have the letters from then Lt Gen. Chapman, Chief of Staff Headquarters Marine Corps: The President of the United States has asked me to...

SF

10thZodiac

10thzodiac
09-01-06, 03:57 PM
I had to lie down this afternoon... sinus pain giving me crappy headaches again. Apparently the symptom relief meds are not working all that well anymore.The wife woke me up and said our private doctors nurse is on the phone. The nurse said they just received the VA cat scan results and that I had chronic sinusitis and the doctor wants to start me immediately on two weeks of antibiotic therapy. I told her to phone it in to my pharmacy.

Otherwise I'll have to wait till September 8th to see the VA EMT doctor before beginning treatment. My private doctors nurse suggested to still keep that appointment. Now I'm in between, as the VA doctor wanted me to see their specialist first. At first when I called the VA EMT (specialist) to see if I have an appointment scheduled they said, "call tomorrow". I called the next day and at first they wanted to give me an appointment for the 14th of September, I told her, "I can come in any time could you make an earlier appointment?" That is how I got the 8th.

I guess I should consider myself fortunate having the best of both worlds, private & government.

On an earlier different issue I told my VA doctor I did get a second opinion and it concurred with hers. She took in stride and wasn't offended, I guess it is quite common. Allot of Veterans just get a VA doctors rubber stamp for medications prescribed by thier private phyisians.

FYI. Before it was $50 dollars for Veterans of means to see a VA doctor and prescriptions $2. Since so many Veterans of means were just coming in for basically prescriptions, the VA started loosing money so they started charging more for prescriptions ($8) and less for doctor visits ($15). The government says now they are now not loosing money anymore compared to the former pricing model, actually breaking even.

SF

yellowwing
09-01-06, 05:00 PM
A guy comes to work with his nose all bandaged up. His buddy's ask him WTF!

The guy says, "Well had some seenus touble Friday night."

His buddy asks him, "You mean sinus trouble?"

The guy replies, "No, seenus trouble. I was out with my girlfriend and my wife seen us!"
:banana:

10thzodiac
09-01-06, 08:09 PM
Yellowwing, that's a timely one, and I can start using it right now on everybody, thanks!

How about the one where the guy's nose is all bandaged up and some one tells him, "I know, you thought he said stand up, but he really said shut up!"

SF

P.S. Eleven bucks a pill at Sam's Club, total $144.00. I should of asked you to get it filled for me in Canada! The pharmacist worked at the VA before and said, "the VA doesn't prescribe this medicine ($)."

horselady
09-01-06, 11:01 PM
Wait a minute! I think I can help you. <br />
<br />
I had bad sinus infection 3 or 4 time a year for 10 years, which <br />
were treated with antibiotics each time. The drugs worked but <br />
seemed less effective each...

horselady
09-01-06, 11:04 PM
I forgot to tell you, you should probably use the antibiotics
to clear up the infection you have now before starting
on the sprays. Or I guess you could use the sprays
concurrently. Best to ask the MD.

10thzodiac
09-02-06, 09:11 AM
I forgot to tell you, you should probably use the antibiotics
to clear up the infection you have now before starting
on the sprays. Or I guess you could use the sprays
concurrently. Best to ask the MD.

I'm very happy to hear your horse is well and doing fine, good for the both you! I did a little horse back riding in my teens in the local Forest Preserves. I loved those Quarter horses. I remember once at a full gallop at a "T" intersection running into another horse T-boning it and flying off my horse. Luckily I gabbed my horses neck while flying off and over and was able to dangle from it. No horse or person got hurt, but the other riders boyfriend tried rearing his horse onto me. Hmmm I wonder why?

Last night was a bummer, couldn't sleep (Allegra D). The VA doctor said, I have to start using nasal sprays, but she didn't say what kind yet. Maybe it will be in the mail today? I will appreciatively copy all the information that you provided me. I like to go natural too but I could never get anything to work.

While in Beijing PRC this April, adjacent to Tienanmen Square our tour guide got free parking by bringing us to an alleged world famous Homeopathic College. The professors there claimed just by feeling your pulse they could diagnose, pregnancy, your ills and prescribe the necessary homeopathic remedies.

The professor that diagnosed me shocked the living daylights out of me! Last year I messed my 63 y/o shoulders up busting out concrete for a couple days with a #90 jack hammer. Guess what the first thing the professor told me, "You have shoulder pain." You could of imagine what was going through my mind when he told me that! Of course at $600 the wife wouldn't let me buy the homeopathic remedies they wanted to sell me for all my aches and pains, not that I would of bought any of them. In hindsight that could of been an educated guess, he did ask how old I was though his young cute Chinese girl interpreter who spoke english and Japanese fluently.

Thanks again Bonni, much appreciated!

SF

Richard

His_angel
09-02-06, 12:16 PM
FYI. Before it was $50 dollars for Veterans of means to see a VA doctor and prescriptions $2. Since so many Veterans of means were just coming in for basically prescriptions, the VA started loosing money so they started charging more for prescriptions ($8) and less for doctor visits ($15). The government says now they are now not loosing money anymore compared to the former pricing model, actually breaking even.

SF

That is not a flat rate for all veterans there. Fee's are based on income and disability rating. That's why I have to fill out some form every year updating my personal information. {For me it's usually late Aug/early Sept.} I haven't had a doctor appt or prescribed medication that I've had to pay for as of yet. I went for a couple of years without any insurance or coverage not realizing I was elibible for medical care through the VA.

horselady
09-02-06, 12:40 PM
I'm very happy to hear your horse is well and doing fine, good for the both you! I did a little horse back riding in my teens in the local Forest Preserves. I loved those Quarter horses. I remember once at a full gallop at a "T" intersection running into another horse T-boning it and flying off my horse. Luckily I gabbed my horses neck while flying off and over and was able to dangle from it. No horse or person got hurt, but the other riders boyfriend tried rearing his horse onto me. Hmmm I wonder why?

Last night was a bummer, couldn't sleep (Allegra D). The VA doctor said, I have to start using nasal sprays, but she didn't say what kind yet. Maybe it will be in the mail today? I will appreciatively copy all the information that you provided me. I like to go natural too but I could never get anything to work.

While in Beijing PRC this April, adjacent to Tienanmen Square our tour guide got free parking by bringing us to an alleged world famous Homeopathic College. The professors there claimed just by feeling your pulse they could diagnose, pregnancy, your ills and prescribe the necessary homeopathic remedies.

The professor that diagnosed me shocked the living daylights out of me! Last year I messed my 63 y/o shoulders up busting out concrete for a couple days with a #90 jack hammer. Guess what the first thing the professor told me, "You have shoulder pain." You could of imagine what was going through my mind when he told me that! Of course at $600 the wife wouldn't let me buy the homeopathic remedies they wanted to sell me for all my aches and pains, not that I would of bought any of them. In hindsight that could of been an educated guess, he did ask how old I was though his young cute Chinese girl interpreter who spoke english and Japanese fluently.

Thanks again Bonni, much appreciated!

SF

Richard

I hope you feel better, Richard. I know the usual OTC sprays made me feel worse and the OTC pills dried out my eyes and mouth. So I hope you can get the enormous relief that I did from the homeopathic ones.

You're better than me on horseback. I've never come close to falling off
and managed to hang on. And I must've fallen off over a hundred times.
Broken several ribs and my back/pelvis as well. But I'll never give it up
until I can't sit up anymore. Hopefully not until I'm in a box!
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/lol5.gif

CoffeeHead20
09-06-06, 09:10 AM
General S.D. Butler had it right. And no war commenced via pre-emptive strike ends up with the "desired" result. Not for Japan. Not for Germany. Not for the USA in the Middle East, either. Wisdom, Brother, wisdom. Amen. S/F

outlaw3179
09-06-06, 02:08 PM
Wow! Thats great ! Now what the hell does that have to do with the subject ?

iamcloudlander
09-06-06, 02:30 PM
Don't try this unless you check it out with an MD first but last year I worked with a man that had chronic sinus problems also. His face was all swollen and he was hurting constantly. His MD had him try a new procedure that he had read about in a medical journal.
What he had him do was (honest) inhale a mixture of salt and water (like sea water) into his sinuses. I suppose that this broke up the mucus and then brought it out. He used this procedure for a few days and you could see the improvement daily. Once he got it cleaned out he was put on anti biotics and now he has no sinus problems at all.
Like I said don't try this until you check it out with a doctor first. I hope it would work as well for you as it did for my friend.

rktect3j
09-06-06, 02:46 PM
I hope you feel better, Richard. I know the usual OTC sprays made me feel worse and the OTC pills dried out my eyes and mouth. So I hope you can get the enormous relief that I did from the homeopathic ones.

You're better than me on horseback. I've never come close to falling off
and managed to hang on. And I must've fallen off over a hundred times.
Broken several ribs and my back/pelvis as well. But I'll never give it up
until I can't sit up anymore. Hopefully not until I'm in a box!
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/lol5.gif
My dad told me that when you fall off a horse you get right back up on it. When I was about 12 my dad put me up on this horse of his friends. Thing bucked me off. Took about 12 stitches in the arm. Never got back on another. He never told me what to do when the horse throws ya. Probably should ask him though.

rktect3j
09-06-06, 02:48 PM
Wow! Thats great ! Now what the hell does that have to do with the subject ?
I agree. Is he talking about a pre emptive strike on the sinus problem or the horse situation? How does that work here?

outlaw3179
09-06-06, 02:56 PM
no impact ...no idea......

10thzodiac
09-06-06, 08:16 PM
I have been taking the antibiotics prescribed by my private doctor since last Thursday. Additionally the Allegra D he started me on a week ago Tuesday. Feeling better slowly. I see the VA neurologist tomorrow for the headaches and dizziness and on Friday the VA ENT specialist. I was thinking about what people did fifty or a hundred years ago for chronic sinusitis, they probably died. We have it good! Thanks again, everybody for your suggestions and support.

Thank you, CoffeeHead20 for the http://groups.msn.com/HolisticMedicineForum (http://groups.msn.com/HolisticMedicineForum) web site and the recommendation (Quote) “I typically use Pe Min Kan Wan formula for sinus involvements with outstanding results”. In addition, thank you for your post to this thread referring to my signature quoting General Smedley Butler

S/F
<O:p
Richard
<O:p

rktect3j
09-06-06, 08:27 PM
Would have helped if coffe head let the rest of us in on the private joke. Some sort of reference leading us dumbies onto it. Not all of us graduated Harvard.

At any rate, my boss took that alegra D for his allergies. He hasn't ever had allergies since then about 7-8 yeras ago.

I'm on sudafed right now so....

CoffeeHead20
09-06-06, 09:00 PM
You are most welcome, Marine. Glad to be of service ! S/F

CoffeeHead20
09-06-06, 09:24 PM
DEMYSTIFYING THE CHINESE HERBAL FORMULA PE MIN KAN WAN

Helps the Body to Cure Itself of:
Acute Rhinitis
Chronic Rhinitis
Pollenosis
Allergies
Blocked Nasal Cavity
Sinus Blocks
Bronchitis
Chronic Idiopathic Cough
Nasal Drip Cough
Other Breathing Disorders
From the day that we are born and every day that follows the Human Body takes on Damage and Injury from the simple acts of daily living. As a child we must learn to walk, we fall, bump or head and suffer all types of injuries ranging from very small to more serious injury. Then as children, teens and all through adult life our body's suffer more and more strain, stress and injury through play, sports, work, etc. Each small injury that the body takes adds up and accumulates until the body can actually form an Injury Block in the vital nerve that cause the body parts to stop working correctly. Damage occurs to the body from repetitive stresses, injury and use. This can cause blocks in the nervous system. When the nervous system gets blocks, the body parts stop working correctly. This is when illness and diseases can form in our body (such as Allergies, sinus trouble and other Breathing disorders).
Many doctor's then blame many of these health problems on genetics, the foods you eat, stress and so on. Though these 'stresses' can make a problem worse, they are NOT the "real" problem. The "Real" problem is that the stresses of daily and monthly living cause small "Blocks" in the our body's nervous system. These "Blocks" then stop the body from working correctly and can cause the body to function in un-natural ways that can hurt the body and cause disease. We can ether leave the damage in the body and take medication and drugs to 'Hide' the problems (which never Cures it) and we can let the body get worse over the years or we can reverse the damages and keep our body's young, strong, healthy, and Free from Disease.
There are many natural items in this world that can actually un-Block vital nerves and reverse damage that the body takes. Pe Min Kan Wan Pills are one of them. Pe Min Kan Wan Pills work by unblocking nerves that go to the Nose and Sinuses while helping the Sinuses to repair the damage tissues causing the disease. This in turn can then help the body correct health conditions for a natural and permanent CURE!
What is a "Block". Imagine trying to water your garden with a hose that has a car parked on it. What would happen? Well, with the car parked on the hose, there would be very little water that could pass that "pinched off" area where the car is causing the block. Now what do you think would happen to the garden if the car stayed on the hose for the next 5 years? What will happen is that over the next few months and years the garden will take damage from the sun, bugs, wind, etc. Without the flow of nature through that hose the garden will be unable to heal the damage to the garden. The garden would begin to age and the garden would begin to look and Be OLD. If not corrected, that part of the garden will eventually die before its time. A "Block" is something un-natural stopping the natural healing flow of nature. Take away the healing flow and things get old and useless. The only way to restore Health and Healing is to remove the block and increase the healing flow of nature.
How Long Does it Take to UnBlock? This all depends on how long the block has been there, how bad it is, and how much damage has occured. To unblock a nerve can take anywhere from one month to 6 or more months.

CoffeeHead20
09-06-06, 10:46 PM
There are also excellent articles on alternative medicine approaches to sinusitis on the Life Extension Foundation site at:
http://www.lef.org/protocols/respiratory/sinusitis_01.htm

S/F

horselady
09-07-06, 10:01 PM
My dad told me that when you fall off a horse you get right back up on it. When I was about 12 my dad put me up on this horse of his friends. Thing bucked me off. Took about 12 stitches in the arm. Never got back on another. He never told me what to do when the horse throws ya. Probably should ask him though.

What he (or someone) should have told you is what
to do to ensure the horse doesn't buck you off.
It's called learning to ride. But don't feel bad,
I know many people who rode a horse only once
and never went back because of a bad experience.
I mean, you wouldn't try to ski down the advanced
hill if you'd never been on skis before. Sure, lots of
people go out on a trail ride without problems, but
most of those hack horses are old and tired and do the
same thing several times a day every day of the year.

But even these kind-hearted souls are still
living, breathing creatures with minds of their own.
And sometimes they just get fed up with all the ignorant
people who flop on their backs, bounce up and down,
then kick them hard while pulling too much on their mouths
with the reins at the same time.

It's a miracle more people don't get bucked off more often.

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