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fontman
08-18-06, 08:44 AM
THE NUMBERS ON THE HISPANIC INVASION
By Neal Boortz

That's right. The invasion is still underway. Even while the world was pressuring Israel to cave in to Hezbollah. Even while were watching this strange little man confess to a murder he probably did not commit .. the invasion continues.

Here's an interesting website for you. It's called immigrationCounters.com The #1 Site for Real-Time Immigration Statistics. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the information on this site .. but it sure does get your attention. Here are the stats as of about 6:00 this morning:

Illegal Immigrants in Country 20,426,887
Money wired to Mexico $23,575,296,302
Cost of Social Services for Illegal Immigrants $397,469,111,828
Illegals Enrolled in Government Schools K-12 3,749,373
Cost of Illegal Immigrants Enrolled in K-12 $14,489,987,299
Illegal Immigrants Incarcerated 315,460
Cost for Incarcerations of Illegal Immigrants $1,446,245,595
Illegal Immigrant Fugitives 623,761

Here's a statistic from elsewhere, one that I did check out. Out of all of the outstanding warrants for murder in Los Angeles, 95% of them are for illegal aliens.

One more thing: You do remember that immigration fuss in the Congress some weeks back, don't you? The House had one version that called for the borders to be controlled and contained no guest worker program, the Senate had a bill calling for amnesty and only a token attempt to control the borders. Nothing got done. The Senate bill was written by Harry Reid and Ted Kennedy. It contained a provision for about 370 miles of fencing along the Mexican-U.S. Border. But .. here's what you probably didn't know. That fence can only be built with after consulting Mexico as to its location. Well isn't that special! Mexico gets to decide where we put our border fences!

yellowwing
08-18-06, 09:02 AM
I think legislating the border is going to be like trying to legislate the drug problem. Plenty of opportunity for political posturing but no real results.

ese4mc
08-18-06, 09:45 AM
Another awe-inspiring idea by "light-Bulb" Kennedy & his liberal cronies

Camper51
08-18-06, 10:49 AM
This is another classic example of "make em feel good" followed by a quick "F*ck em" policy.

now that things have died down nothing really gets done and we are still screwed by having to pay and take care of illegals...

GunnyL
08-18-06, 02:58 PM
The Government of Mexico takes a 25% cut of all money that is wired to Mexico! I think the US Government needs to take another 50% up front.
If they find that 75% of their money is going to Uncle Sam and Uncle Pedro maybe they'll realize it's not such an great thing to come to America!!!

yellowwing
08-18-06, 03:16 PM
Not a bad idea at all. One of my roofers sent 3/4 of his money back to his uncle in the Honduras. After two years he went back an opened an blue jeans export shop. It would have taken him 10 years back in Central America.

ggyoung
08-20-06, 06:06 PM
ese4mc You are being nise to that drunk slob. His car has killed more people than my guns have.

OLE SARG
08-20-06, 07:37 PM
I like the way our president and congress have REALLY TAKEN ACTION ON THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION THING!!!!!!!!!! MY ASS!!!!!!!!
It seems like vacation was the most important things for all these *******s!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

iamcloudlander
09-09-06, 03:51 AM
A Frightening Analysis

We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration — both legal and illegal — was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: First to destroy America, "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States a 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved! Not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity! Unity is what it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games.

A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.

"E. Pluribus Unum" — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'x! xenophobes' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause.

A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America — take note of California and other states — to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

iamcloudlander
09-09-06, 03:53 AM
Amazing huh?

Read this to the bottom, and try not to be too shocked, these rules already apply!
1. Only professionals or investors can immigrate to the country. No unskilled laborers will be allowed in. Investors must be able to invest at least 40,000 times the daily average wage. If they can't, they are not allowed in.
2. Immigrants may purchase property, but locations and availability will be limited. Ocean front property cannot be purchased by immigrants. It is exclusively for citizens born in the country.
3. Immigrants cannot vote nor can they be elected to any public office.
4. Immigrants cannot collect any type of government assistance.
5. Immigrants cannot protest the countries government, policies or president.
6. Immigrants cannot display a flag of a foreign country.
7. Immigrants who have illegally entered the country will be found and imprisoned.
Sound kind of harsh?









Well, these are laws that are currently part of the Immigration Laws of, you guessed it, MEXICO!!!

ivalis
09-09-06, 06:17 AM
In the study of statistics there is a concept of the "significant" digit.

The last digit of a number reflecting the amount of anything is the last number that can be reasonably assured as being accurate.

An example, if you are confident of a number being accurate within one hundred the last 2 digits should be zero ie. 200, if one is confident that the number is accurate within ten the number should be 230, if confident that the number is dead nuts on 234 would work.

With the above in mind i have a problem with the statistics listed on the first post. In fact I always raise an eyebrow when i see statistics that that purport a level of accuracy that is impossible to defend.

The US census bureau cannot accurately count US citizens yet I am made to believe there is an accurate count of illegal immigrants and the related costs to society within one dollar.

While I agree that there is a problem with illegal immigrants in this country, don't buffalo me with bull**** statistics. The costs suggested for various services is particularily troubling. Are these the net costs (after subtracting the various taxes paid by or on behalf of illegal imigrants) or the gross costs.

yellowwing
09-09-06, 06:26 AM
bah! I do not think any resolution by Ted Kennedy or John McCain or Arlen Spectre will solve the issue.

jinelson
09-09-06, 07:36 AM
We dont need any new legistlation what we need is an administration that will force subordinate agencies to enforce the existing laws on the books. Do some recon on Congressman Tom Tancredo.

chafas2531
09-09-06, 08:00 AM
:marine: Both! Count me in! I still believe in a strong America and her laws! I will not back down, cow down, or go down from her principles. I still believe in Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve! I KNOW it takes a mother and Father to raise a child and not a whole village/gov't! And I KNOW behind every Marine there is a good woman who is probably more stronger than her Marine! I still believe in respecting my elders! I still believe in opening doors for real ladies! In short, I still believe in God, Corps, and Country! SEMPER FIDELIS!
A Heart O' Texas Marine ( and a Hispanic BUT AMERICAN FIRST!!!!):usmc:
Benjamin Mendez Soto

lucien2
09-09-06, 08:18 AM
:marine: Both! Count me in! I still believe in a strong America and her laws! I will not back down, cow down, or go down from her principles. I still believe in Adam and Eve and not Adam and Steve! I KNOW it takes a mother and Father to raise a child and not a whole village/gov't! And I KNOW behind every Marine there is a good woman who is probably more stronger than her Marine! I still believe in respecting my elders! I still believe in opening doors for real ladies! In short, I still believe in God, Corps, and Country! SEMPER FIDELIS!
A Heart O' Texas Marine ( and a Hispanic BUT AMERICAN FIRST!!!!):usmc:
Benjamin Mendez Soto

ooooh raaahhh brother!

10thzodiac
09-09-06, 10:41 PM
Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask Any Indian.


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lucien2
09-10-06, 09:09 AM
Amen.