jm4magic
08-02-06, 02:29 PM
Hey guys my cousin came over from <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:State><ST1:place>Florida</ST1:place></st1:State> a few weeks back, and we got into a heated discussion on the War on Iraq/Terror. He recently just sent me an email on his views of the Bush Administration and the Conservative movement. Anyways I really need help in finding the facts and replying back to my cousin. If you guys can help me out I would highly appreciate it.Thanks!
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Hey Jameel,Sorry it took me so long to reply, I keep forgetting that I have this new emailaddress. So anyway, those articles really do suggest that there was a linkbetween Al-qaeda and Saddam. This is good, because it means that the war had areal purpose. My problem is that all these things are being found AFTER weattacked Iraq. The pre-war intelligence was really really bad. Wasn't thewhole reason for going to Iraq because they supposedly had WMDs? It turns outthat most of the intellignece about WMDs came from an Iraqi informant named"Curveball" who they now realize has lied and is probably just crazy: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7369843/site/newsweek/ (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7369843/site/newsweek/) http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5412317/site/newsweek (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5412317/site/newsweek).There's a lot of evidence that proves that Bush's cabinet planned the Iraq warlong before 9-11, but that 9-11 finally gave them an excuse to go through withit. Most of America was still fearful and angry at Muslims and the Middle Eastright after 9-11 happened, so it was easy for Bush to get support for war with aMuslim country. Within a year and a half, he had us convinced that war withIraq was the right thing to do, and that getting rid of Saddam was somehow moreimportant than catching Osama bin Laden. http://www.sundayherald.com/39221 (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.sundayherald.com/39221');) http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=233 (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=233');) http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specials_2003-08/articles/10739-1.html (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specials_2003-08/articles/10739-1.html');) So why does Bush want Iraq so badly? We talked about oil, and I still thinkthat's a big part of the reason. Main reason is control over that region. Ifall he wanted was to catch terrorists, he would have focused more effort on binLaden and become closer allies with other Muslim countries, so that they wouldwork with him to find terrorists in their own countries. Instead, he went towar on a "hunch" and thousands of US troops and innocent civilians have diedbecause of it. And because of civilian deaths and incidents like Haditha andAbu Ghraib prison, he's created even more terrorists! If he just wanted to freethe people from an evil dictator, he could've started with Haiti, Liberia,Zimbabwe, or countless African countries. Of course, they have nothing that wewant, so there's not much reason for the US to go there. There have beendocuments about Bush's plan to gain some control over one Middle Easterncountry, and then spread from there. If the US is successful in Iraq, Iguarantee you that Iran will be next on the list, and war is not going to stopuntil the US takes over most of the Middle East. That's why terrorists call theU.S "crusaders", because we are spreading our way of life (democracy) bykilling, destroying, and taking over. Democracy is great, but you can't getpeople to like it by shoving it down their throats. So bottom line is, I thinkthe idea of fighting terrorism is just an excuse, while the plan to gain controlof the middle east is the real reason behind all of this.Let me know what you think. But don't make me read like 10 websites, haha! Take care, I'll talk to you later.
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Hey Jameel,Sorry it took me so long to reply, I keep forgetting that I have this new emailaddress. So anyway, those articles really do suggest that there was a linkbetween Al-qaeda and Saddam. This is good, because it means that the war had areal purpose. My problem is that all these things are being found AFTER weattacked Iraq. The pre-war intelligence was really really bad. Wasn't thewhole reason for going to Iraq because they supposedly had WMDs? It turns outthat most of the intellignece about WMDs came from an Iraqi informant named"Curveball" who they now realize has lied and is probably just crazy: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7369843/site/newsweek/ (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7369843/site/newsweek/) http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5412317/site/newsweek (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5412317/site/newsweek).There's a lot of evidence that proves that Bush's cabinet planned the Iraq warlong before 9-11, but that 9-11 finally gave them an excuse to go through withit. Most of America was still fearful and angry at Muslims and the Middle Eastright after 9-11 happened, so it was easy for Bush to get support for war with aMuslim country. Within a year and a half, he had us convinced that war withIraq was the right thing to do, and that getting rid of Saddam was somehow moreimportant than catching Osama bin Laden. http://www.sundayherald.com/39221 (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.sundayherald.com/39221');) http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=233 (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/fullstory.asp?id=233');) http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specials_2003-08/articles/10739-1.html (http://javascript<b></b>:ol('http://www.utne.com/web_special/web_specials_2003-08/articles/10739-1.html');) So why does Bush want Iraq so badly? We talked about oil, and I still thinkthat's a big part of the reason. Main reason is control over that region. Ifall he wanted was to catch terrorists, he would have focused more effort on binLaden and become closer allies with other Muslim countries, so that they wouldwork with him to find terrorists in their own countries. Instead, he went towar on a "hunch" and thousands of US troops and innocent civilians have diedbecause of it. And because of civilian deaths and incidents like Haditha andAbu Ghraib prison, he's created even more terrorists! If he just wanted to freethe people from an evil dictator, he could've started with Haiti, Liberia,Zimbabwe, or countless African countries. Of course, they have nothing that wewant, so there's not much reason for the US to go there. There have beendocuments about Bush's plan to gain some control over one Middle Easterncountry, and then spread from there. If the US is successful in Iraq, Iguarantee you that Iran will be next on the list, and war is not going to stopuntil the US takes over most of the Middle East. That's why terrorists call theU.S "crusaders", because we are spreading our way of life (democracy) bykilling, destroying, and taking over. Democracy is great, but you can't getpeople to like it by shoving it down their throats. So bottom line is, I thinkthe idea of fighting terrorism is just an excuse, while the plan to gain controlof the middle east is the real reason behind all of this.Let me know what you think. But don't make me read like 10 websites, haha! Take care, I'll talk to you later.