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thedrifter
07-18-06, 07:23 AM
Can talking halt killing in Middle East?

By Dion Nissenbaum

McClatchy Newspapers

JERUSALEM — International diplomats swung into action Monday on the increasingly deadly face-off between Israel and Hezbollah as Israeli air attacks claimed at least 40 more lives in Lebanon and Hezbollah missiles wounded 11 in Israel.

Israel acknowledged for the first time that only diplomacy would bring a long-term solution to the conflict, and Lebanon's prime minister pleaded for a cease-fire. But Israel rebuffed a proposal to deploy United Nations peacekeepers along its border with Lebanon and stuck to its refusal to release prisoners in exchange for the return of two Israeli soldiers captured last week by Hezbollah.

"Time is of the essence," said U.N. Undersecretary-General Vijay Nambiar, head of a U.N. team that was shuttling between Beirut and Jerusalem. "Creative solutions have to be found in order to prevent a broadening and deepening of the conflict."

After days of saying it wouldn't intervene in the conflict, the Bush administration also began showing an interest in brokering an end to the fighting. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice planned to travel to the Middle East to mediate.

But McCormack said details of the trip had to be worked out, and Rice had just returned to the United States from Russia, where she'd been attending the Group of 8 summit.

Iran and Russia also pressed for diplomatic solutions, with Iran calling for a cease-fire and a prisoner exchange and Russia offering to contribute troops to a peacekeeping force.

In a candid moment of frustration captured by an open microphone, President Bush lashed out at Hezbollah and expressed frustration with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan for not prodding Syrian President Bashar Assad, one of the Lebanese militant group's main backers.

"I feel like telling Kofi to get on the phone with Assad and make something happen," Bush told British Prime Minister Tony Blair during a lunch at the G-8 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia.

"See, the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this **** and it's over," he said.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also singled out Syria for prolonging the crisis by not stopping Hezbollah from firing rockets into northern Israel and not trying to persuade the group to free two Israeli soldiers captured in a cross-border raid Wednesday.



In a speech carried live in Israel, Olmert denounced Hezbollah as "subcontractors for the axis of evil that runs from Tehran to Damascus" and said his nation was prepared for a long fight.

"We are not looking for war or conflict," Olmert told the Israeli parliament. "But when necessary we will not shy away from them."

In his speech, Olmert outlined his demands to end the crisis: release of the two Israeli soldiers; expulsion of Hezbollah from the southern Lebanese border, where militants are firing rockets into Israel; deployment of Lebanese troops in the area; and full disarmament of Hezbollah under unfulfilled U.N. resolutions.

"We are trying to neutralize their ability to rain terror on us," said Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry. "Having said that, we understand that the long-term solution is not military, but diplomatic."

Regev suggested that Israel's military campaign had succeeded in laying the groundwork for peace talks by targeting Hezbollah and weakening its ties to Syria and Iran.

"If you have more energetic support behind the Lebanese government, that is a recipe for an improved reality," said Regev.

U.N. official Nambiar, conferring with Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora on Monday, called his meeting "a promising first start" but stressed that "much diplomatic work needs to be done before we arrive at any grounds for optimism."

Nambiar declined to discuss what idea he'll present to Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni when they meet today. It wasn't clear whether he'd met with Hezbollah representatives.

Israel has dismissed one idea proposed by Annan and Blair for the creation of an international force to be sent to the Israel-Lebanon border.

"We've got one force that has been quite a failure and that's UNIFIL," said Regev, referring to the 2,000-strong United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon deployed along the border.

UNIFIL's limitations were underscored over the past week when it basically became stranded. A UNIFIL statement Monday complained that it was unable to supply food and water to its troops, much less help deliver humanitarian aid to civilians, because Israel had not guaranteed free passage.

Experts who have served in Lebanon dismissed the idea of an international force unless it has the full backing of both Israel and Hezbollah.

"It's a nonstarter," Timur Goksel, who served 24 years with the U.N. observer force and now teaches in Beirut, said by telephone. "If the intention is to observe, there is already a force in place. If they are talking of a deterrent force to prevent fighting, it will immediately be seen as an occupation force here. And when you have an occupation force, no matter what your flag, even under the United Nations, that's when the trouble starts."

Another option would be a fresh, stronger multinational force. But that too has been tried in Lebanon, with disastrous results. After Israel's 1982 invasion, the United States led a four-nation force with France, Italy and Britain in Beirut as part of a cease-fire. The U.S. force was gradually sucked into Lebanon's civil war. Shortly after a U.S. warship off the coast fired at a Muslim militia on behalf of rival Christians, a suicide bomber in 1983 destroyed a Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 Marines.

Israel has demanded that Lebanon dispatch its troops to the border to rein in Hezbollah, a proposal that most analysts believe the weak Saniora coalition couldn't achieve.

Saniora again appealed for Israel to halt its punishing bombardment of Lebanon, which, in addition to killing scores, has created a growing refugee crisis.

Thousands of Lebanese residents are heeding Israel's warning and are fleeing southern Lebanon.

McClatchy Newspapers reporters Cliff Churgin and Nada Raad contributed to this report, which was supplemented with material from The Washington Post.

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JERUSALEM — International diplomats swung into action Monday on the increasingly deadly face-off between Israel and Hezbollah as Israeli air attacks claimed at least 40 more lives in Lebanon and Hezbollah missiles wounded 11 in Israel.

Israel acknowledged for the first time that only diplomacy would bring a long-term solution to the conflict, and Lebanon's prime minister pleaded for a cease-fire. But Israel rebuffed a proposal to deploy United Nations peacekeepers along its border with Lebanon and stuck to its refusal to release prisoners in exchange for the return of two Israeli soldiers captured last week by Hezbollah.

"Time is of the essence," said U.N. Undersecretary-General Vijay Nambiar, head of a U.N. team that was shuttling between Beirut and Jerusalem. "Creative solutions have to be found in order to prevent a broadening and deepening of the conflict."

After days of saying it wouldn't intervene in the conflict, the Bush administration also began showing an interest in brokering an end to the fighting. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice planned to travel to the Middle East to mediate.

But McCormack said details of the trip had to be worked out, and Rice had just returned to the United States from Russia, where she'd been attending the Group of 8 summit.

Iran and Russia also pressed for diplomatic solutions, with Iran calling for a cease-fire and a prisoner exchange and Russia offering to contribute troops to a peacekeeping force.

In a candid moment of frustration captured by an open microphone, President Bush lashed out at Hezbollah and expressed frustration with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan for not prodding Syrian President Bashar Assad, one of the Lebanese militant group's main backers.

"I feel like telling Kofi to get on the phone with Assad and make something happen," Bush told British Prime Minister Tony Blair during a lunch at the G-8 summit in St. Petersburg, Russia.

"See, the irony is that what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this **** and it's over," he said.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert also singled out Syria for prolonging the crisis by not stopping Hezbollah from firing rockets into northern Israel and not trying to persuade the group to free two Israeli soldiers captured in a cross-border raid Wednesday.



In a speech carried live in Israel, Olmert denounced Hezbollah as "subcontractors for the axis of evil that runs from Tehran to Damascus" and said his nation was prepared for a long fight.

"We are not looking for war or conflict," Olmert told the Israeli parliament. "But when necessary we will not shy away from them."

In his speech, Olmert outlined his demands to end the crisis: release of the two Israeli soldiers; expulsion of Hezbollah from the southern Lebanese border, where militants are firing rockets into Israel; deployment of Lebanese troops in the area; and full disarmament of Hezbollah under unfulfilled U.N. resolutions.

"We are trying to neutralize their ability to rain terror on us," said Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry. "Having said that, we understand that the long-term solution is not military, but diplomatic."

Regev suggested that Israel's military campaign had succeeded in laying the groundwork for peace talks by targeting Hezbollah and weakening its ties to Syria and Iran.

"If you have more energetic support behind the Lebanese government, that is a recipe for an improved reality," said Regev.

U.N. official Nambiar, conferring with Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora on Monday, called his meeting "a promising first start" but stressed that "much diplomatic work needs to be done before we arrive at any grounds for optimism."

Nambiar declined to discuss what idea he'll present to Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni when they meet today. It wasn't clear whether he'd met with Hezbollah representatives.

Israel has dismissed one idea proposed by Annan and Blair for the creation of an international force to be sent to the Israel-Lebanon border.

"We've got one force that has been quite a failure and that's UNIFIL," said Regev, referring to the 2,000-strong United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon deployed along the border.

UNIFIL's limitations were underscored over the past week when it basically became stranded. A UNIFIL statement Monday complained that it was unable to supply food and water to its troops, much less help deliver humanitarian aid to civilians, because Israel had not guaranteed free passage.

Experts who have served in Lebanon dismissed the idea of an international force unless it has the full backing of both Israel and Hezbollah.

"It's a nonstarter," Timur Goksel, who served 24 years with the U.N. observer force and now teaches in Beirut, said by telephone. "If the intention is to observe, there is already a force in place. If they are talking of a deterrent force to prevent fighting, it will immediately be seen as an occupation force here. And when you have an occupation force, no matter what your flag, even under the United Nations, that's when the trouble starts."

Another option would be a fresh, stronger multinational force. But that too has been tried in Lebanon, with disastrous results. After Israel's 1982 invasion, the United States led a four-nation force with France, Italy and Britain in Beirut as part of a cease-fire. The U.S. force was gradually sucked into Lebanon's civil war. Shortly after a U.S. warship off the coast fired at a Muslim militia on behalf of rival Christians, a suicide bomber in 1983 destroyed a Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 Marines.

Israel has demanded that Lebanon dispatch its troops to the border to rein in Hezbollah, a proposal that most analysts believe the weak Saniora coalition couldn't achieve.

Saniora again appealed for Israel to halt its punishing bombardment of Lebanon, which, in addition to killing scores, has created a growing refugee crisis.

Thousands of Lebanese residents are heeding Israel's warning and are fleeing southern Lebanon.

McClatchy Newspapers reporters Cliff Churgin and Nada Raad contributed to this report, which was supplemented with material from The Washington Post.

yellowwing
07-18-06, 07:30 AM
"We are not looking for war or conflict," Olmert told the Israeli parliament. "But when necessary we will not shy away from them."
Talk about Cowboy Up! :banana:

OLE SARG
07-18-06, 08:59 AM
Too bad the United States doesn't have a set that big. If the United States took that attitude we wouldn't have the problems with the LEFT and the bleeding hearts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

redneck13
07-18-06, 09:06 AM
You got that right Sarge, Yellowing. I know Isreal has put up with probably more than we'll ever know. Did ya'll here the Lebanese Pres. on Fox? Hey? If you would've done what you were suppose to, as Isreal left, then "YOUR" army was to take over, but you coward down to these "IDIOT'S", so don't start complaining about Isreal defending themselves. I hope they get 'em all, and hell no, "YOU CAIN'T TALK TO IDIOT'S" or as a phrase...."YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!!" SF Now carry on you Blessed Maggot's.
Too bad the United States doesn't have a set that big. If the United States took that attitude we wouldn't have the problems with the LEFT and the bleeding hearts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,