I think my recruiter is BS'ing me [Archive] - Marine Corps

amandapeyton

07-11-06, 02:12 AM

My recruiter is telling me that the MOS I want (0231 Intel) has no openings for next fiscal year. I can't believe that! I have the scores and I have a ship date of Sep. 11th. Is he giving me a load of ***? What should I do?

Thnx!

DONT OVERRIDE THE CENSOR>>>>WANABEE.....WINKY WINK

GySgtRet

07-11-06, 05:54 AM

Did your recruiter offer yo something close to what you want to get into? The Marine Corps works on its needs first of all. If you are qualified like you say you are then there must of been an alternative MOS for you. Help us help you.

Welcome to Leatherneck and your interest in the marine Corps.

Marine84

07-11-06, 08:08 AM

What is it that these guys are missing these days? You not walking into Burger King kid - there is only one way of doing things in the Marine Corps - THEIR WAY. If the Corps needs you to empty trash cans that's what you'll do (which you will do plenty of anyway no matter what MOS you get).

Korling

07-11-06, 08:40 AM

See if you can get 2600 MOS's. Signals Intel was/is a great MOS, it is still intel, you need a TS clearance and depending on the particular MOS you'll get lots of training (took 2 years before I got the 2673 MOS). You get to deploy a lot...etc. I would see no motivation for a recruiter to lie to you about closed MOS's that you are qualified for.

amandapeyton

07-11-06, 12:32 PM

Thanks to all for the quick responses.

The other job he is pushing is legal specialist. I understand that the needs of the USMC come first and that there will be plenty of "trash duty". However, it is his statement that there are "no openings for next year" for that job that has me questioning things. I did some research and found MARADMIN 264/06 that said the 02 series MOS's are not fast filling. I also found out that there is an SRB. That tells me this is a critical field and I can't believe there is no school openings for 2007.

Korling, I will check out the 2600.

Thanks all.

Echo_Four_Bravo

07-11-06, 12:37 PM

I don't understand how you can select a particular MOS anyway. I thought you only got to pick the MOS field? Regardless, we join to become Marines... not whatever our MOS is.

Marine84

07-11-06, 01:33 PM

I thought my SRB was my Service Record Book - what does it stand for these days? Maybe there aren't any openings in the particular field you're wanting to get into - maybe not - is that going to be your deciding factor as to whether you go or not?

amandapeyton

07-11-06, 01:46 PM

SRB stands for selective re-enlistment bonus. I am going to join the Marines no matter what! I was just using that fact as evidence that I see that the Intel field needs people.

Marine0313

07-11-06, 02:49 PM

What you read was for Marines Reenlisting not for Poolees enlisting

You still choose the field not the specific MOS

rktect3j

07-11-06, 03:05 PM

It's getting really tiring to hear a person/poster ask a question on this forum and have to keep reading crap like "Needs of the Corps." If you don't have the answer to the specific question, try to help out a little bit less in the future. We all know the old schtick and it isn't impressing anybody here with the hardcorps, take it in the arse, attitude.

How about some real help for those seeking it.

Just venting a bit.

Carry on.

Semper Fi.

ssgtt32

07-11-06, 04:24 PM

I do believe that a certain MOS can be closed for the FY-07, simply because they look at the big picture! example being: how currently in that MOS (by Grade), who is scheduled to retire and what is the rate of promotions, the Corps does not want one MOS to become stagnate! with that being said, if you can maybe find a similar MOS close to the one you want, go for it and then try to lat-move! if i am way of base someone please let me know!
S/F
Maurice

amandapeyton

07-11-06, 04:28 PM

Well, I just got back from the recruiter. He said there werre no more intel slots open for females for the rest of this fiscal year for the S.E. recruiting district. I can buy that. He is checking on next year and/or possibly trading with another district for a female slot.

Thank you everyone for your support.

GySgtRet

07-11-06, 07:17 PM

Did you check into the 26XX field? Let us know how things go please. And now would you please update your profile...???

yellowwing

07-11-06, 08:53 PM

Korling

07-11-06, 10:39 PM

2600 is good for the lat move to 0200 later on as you will already have the clearance and some related training. Glad to see your recruiter is going that extra mile for you, hopefully something will come through...now focus on preparing to earn the title.

Echo_Four_Bravo

07-12-06, 01:47 AM

Things being filled up for this fiscal year makes total sense. It is pretty late in the game. But, I will admit I am surprised to see that they have specific openings for male and female 0200s. I would have assumed that either sex could fill the roll just fine since it isn't one of the jobs closed to women. Live and learn I suppose.

Rktect, I don't think the comments here about "Needs of the Corps" are intended to make anyone sound hard core or try to evade the question. We may have been on this board for a long time, but many of the poolees have not, and that is something everyone should learn as early as possible. This poolee has four posts as of this moment, so I doubt she has seen it posted all that often.

rktect3j

07-12-06, 01:18 PM

Echo Four,

I think the particular response I went off on, and many like it that I have seen here, is not to show new poolees that the Corps needs come first but rather for some Marines to have yet one more opportunity to dog another poster. I have this strange ability to be able to read a post and understand its meaning and implications. Amandapayton asked a question, and a good one. She wasn’t looking to be dogged because she is the new poster on the site or looking for a learning lesson from us in Marine Corps politics. I don’t really know the motivation behind the response. Maybe it was just one more ways to look hard Corps and bump up the total post count for the individual. The question amandapayton asked was ,“Is he giving me a load of cr*p? What should I do?” in regards to the MOS she wanted having no openings.

A response such as “suck it up” really doesn’t fly anymore. The Corps will exact a great price from you for the years you will be giving it. It is in your, the poolees, best interest to get back as much as you can. Whatever the Corps can offer up for your service should be expected by every one of us. If you sit there and accept that sacrifice for the Corps is what is expected or the status quo, you really aren’t going to go far fast. It’s the long hard road for you. This poster is interested in something specific. Do you have any constructive advice for her?

Respectfully submitted
Rktect3j

Semper Fi.

Marine84

07-12-06, 01:57 PM

So you're saying it's better to lie to them and tell them that they can have anything THEY want? Then have MY tax dollars wasted because they find out different when they get in? Don't get me wrong - I don't have a problem with anybody taking advantage of a system if they can - what I do hate is when they've been told they can have the stars, moons and green clovers if they sign on the dotted line and then they can't even win a breach of contract because they don't know codes that are used on their contracts. Ever heard anybody use the line "that's not what my recruiter said"?

Nobody is trying to be hard Corps about anything with poolees - it's just a lot of us WANT them to WANT to be there. Your tax dollars are being spent too - wouldn't you want the same?

rktect3j

07-12-06, 03:47 PM

You bet. Which is exactly why I want them to get the MOS or at least the field that they are interested in. Isn't that the same. Instead, you sound more as if you are inclined to have someone join the Corps and then expect to be happy when any MOS is determined for them. Yes, every Marine a rifleman but still we have primary MOS's. Maybe private Smith will be more motivated if he/she actually has an interest in their job, maybe. I know I would be more motivated in my job if I thought the person working next to me actually cared about their job. This is not called babying it is called foreward thinking.

Today I have a career in architecture. I spent 4 years at school and then 5 years as an intern and another 1.5 studying for and passing 9 exams to become licensed. It would have really sucked if at the end of that process, they told me I was going to be a manager at Walmart instead of being the licensed Architect that I am.

Whadoyathink?

Echo_Four_Bravo

07-12-06, 10:40 PM

Rktect, I don't understand why you're so fired up. The girl wanted to do something, and the recruiter told her it couldn't happen. She didn't like the answer and came here. In that situation, it is in fact, a needs of the Corps issue. If the Marine Corps needs a person with that MOS, they will accept new enlistments for it. If they do not need people in that field, they will not. You worked towards your profession and got what you wanted, and that's great. Marine recruits will do the same thing. But, they may not always be able to select their first choice. Rather, they have to select what is available at a given point.

And, I know plenty of people that have graduate degrees in a field, but work in something else. Their plan didn't work out as well as yours did. Whether in civillian life or the Marine Corps, part of what happens to you is a direct result of what you do to make your goals happen. But, part of it is also being in the right place at the right time. I, for one, got screwed by my recruiter. I was told I was going into one field, and I ended up at MEPS with a different choice... at that point my choice was to agree to a contract with several possibilities (a combat arms option) or not go to boot camp at that time. I didn't get it my way, and things still worked out well.

Marine84

07-13-06, 07:49 AM

RK - that's good that you were able to do that for yourself; however, you didn't get that degree from the Marine Corps. When you go through college - you can have it your way - when you go through the Corps you have to pretty much do it their way and anything extra is on your own time. Some have the drive for it - some don't.

rktect3j

07-13-06, 08:33 AM

You two make some good points. I agree with a lot of it. But that doesn't really help with the original question. Like I said, "suk it up" has never worked well and works even less well now. Poolees have options these days. Recruiters can exchange slots or the poolee can wait it out. Hopefully without fear of their recruiter lieing to them. I think that if you start a recruit out in the Corps based on a package of lies, it will show up in a Marine attitude land performance latter. Sorry if you guys got the shaft from your recruiters. I signed on as open contract. All I wanted was to be a Marine. For some though, their MOS/job for the next four years is a large part of their decision to join. It could end up being a lifetime career. We are all different.

It is very true that no matter what you do in the Corps regarding your MOS you had better be joining first and foremost to be a Marine. Your job will always be secondary to that.

Marine84

07-13-06, 08:37 AM

I don't think I got shafted - I went in open contract too - didn't know a blasted thing about bombs or working on racks but I sure had fun doing it!

yellowwing

07-13-06, 08:48 AM

I was probably lucky, I signed in mid October way before I even knew what a Fiscal Year even was. I got my requested MOS.

Echo_Four_Bravo

07-13-06, 10:21 AM

I don't think I got shafted. I loved the MOS I ended up with, but it isn't something I would have ever selected on my own before going to boot camp. Thankfully I am color blind, the first MOS they tried to give me out of the package would have been something I hated, but I got lucky and ended up with a great MOS- that is now almost phased out of the Corps... and I haven't been out all that long. So, it was good timing all around.

Korling

07-13-06, 02:12 PM

<<<<< Yet another Open Contract that enjoyed the MOS the Marine Corps gave me.

drillinstructor

07-13-06, 02:45 PM

OK let me explain..If you want that MOS wait on it. He is not BS-ing you. Everything has to be in order for that school so you are not placed in a waiting status until a school seat opens up backround check. bootcamp, and school seat has to mesh together. School seats are already filled up. The school is still up and running but a long school and very few classes a year. If that is what you want wait on it...

Mustang70

07-19-06, 01:58 AM

Kid, trust me...you don't want to sit in a CMS vault all day anyway:P Unless you WANT a desk job. If you're deadset of being in the "Chairbourne" Go 0100...it's right down the hall usually.....

yesyouam

09-29-07, 07:55 PM

When I signed up, I wanted to be in the band and there were no openings, so I tried NBC-- no openings, air traffic control-- no openings, so I got 0231... and it turned out to be a pretty sweet gig!

yellowwing

09-29-07, 10:43 PM

so I got 0231... and it turned out to be a pretty sweet gig!
Picking banjo in the S-2 Shop to unwind a bit? :D

SlingerDun

09-29-07, 10:58 PM

I understand that the needs of the USMC come first and that there will be plenty of "trash duty".trash duty? Meaning mindless manual labor, or trashy MOS's. hehe perhaps you could elaborate.

--->Dave

LeonardLawrence

09-29-07, 11:19 PM

rktect3j (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?u=22809) vbmenu_register("postmenu_180162", true); -
I understand where you are coming from with your comments and agree.

Open contract....not on your life....by personal choice ;) That may be good for some folks, but Ms. Peyton...and I want better...

Good luck...I would say if they can't make it happen...wait the year out and go to school...or something....