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thedrifter
07-06-06, 04:17 PM
Gangs use Internet to showcase exploits

By ANDREW GLAZER, Associated Press Writer

Some of the country's most notorious street gangs have gotten Web-savvy, showcasing illegal exploits, making threats, and honoring killed and jailed members on digital turf.

Crips, Bloods, MS-13, 18th Street and others have staked claims on various corners of cyberspace. "Web bangers" are posting potentially incriminating photos of members holding guns, messages taunting other gangs and boasts of illegal exploits on personal Web sites and social networking sites.

"I'm just being real and I ain't got nothing to hide," said Kristopher "Kasper" Flowers, 30, a professed member of the 18th Street gang with facial tattoos of "18" and "666." The main 18th Street gang Web site has a link to "Kaspers World."

Gangs once only roamed the streets of big cities but now can be found in 2,500 U.S. communities, according to the FBI. Police departments suddenly faced with the unwelcome arrivals are looking for help anywhere they can get it, including the gangs' own easy-to-find Web sites.

George W. Knox, director of the National Gang Crime Research Center, said he has trained hundreds of police officials in how to cull intelligence on gang membership, rivalries, territory and lingo from these Web pages.

"In order to understand any subculture, be it al-Qaida, witches, devil worshippers or gangs, you have to be able to know their own language," Knox said.

The tendency for gang members to brag about their exploits on Web pages such as the popular networking site Myspace.com has in some cases helped investigators make arrests.

Chicago police recently arrested a teenager accused of spraying his gang nickname on a church by tracing the moniker to his Myspace.com account. His online profile included his address, photo and real name.

A Northern California judge ruled earlier this month that two teens charged with beating a boy into a coma could be tried as adults after prosecutors showed photographs of the two from Myspace.com. In the images, they flashed the hand signs of a local gang.

Myspace.com representatives could not be reached for comment.

Deputy Tom Ferguson of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department's gang investigation unit has identified a number of graffiti writers who posted to a public Web site photos of themselves in front of their work.

"Maybe they think we don't look at it," Ferguson said. "But we're out there gleaning information on them."

Knox said it's important for police to learn how to read between the lines on gang Web sites and blogs. Just as time on the streets has given gang investigators the ability to read the hieroglyphics of wall graffiti, time on the Web helps them understand arcane Web clues. Gang identifiers, such as tattoos, graffiti tags, colors and clothing often are embedded in each site.

"You can study gang blogs and, an hour or two into it, pick up on subtle word choices," Knox said. "These are holy words to them."

Knox and others fear gangs are using the Internet to recruit new members, who can be influenced by the secret handshakes, clothing and slang of gang cultures.

"There may be a lot of wannabes out there," said Kenneth Davis, a school resource officer for the Yonkers Police Department in New York and an expert on gang graffiti and Web sites.

Flowers, a Hollywood tattoo artist who says he has sworn off violence, said he gets e-mails from wannabe gangbangers from far reaches of the Web but usually does not respond.

"If I do, I tell them to get a life and do your own thing and don't try to be part of something else," he said.

Ellie

kovanfleet
07-06-06, 06:05 PM
one of my ex-friends has fallen into the crips over the past year. his myspace is loaded with flashy crip sign and symboles (like the star of david, dont really understand why they would use that). some of his gang buddies have videos of fellow gang members doing drive byes, its kinda sad becuase the guy who gets shot truns and looks right at the camera before he got shot in the chest and then the passenger gets out to finish the guy off with a few more in the head.

NYcityborn
07-06-06, 06:47 PM
Gangs are just a bunch of pathetic group of kids who parents dont love them, so they turn to gangs thinking its a family, I dont like them and when I walk by them I look in there faces, there pathetic excuses for life.

Brooklyn
07-06-06, 07:05 PM
Gangs are just a bunch of pathetic group of kids who parents dont love them, so they turn to gangs thinking its a family, I dont like them


Are those the reasons you don't like them or was that just an added physco analyzation?

NYcityborn
07-06-06, 07:13 PM
Are those the reasons you don't like them or was that just an added physco analyzation?
both, because I remember there was time where these gang members shot this girl and they couldnt do a trial because there was a protest, they were waving signs saying ''Dont Snitch'', and there were a time were they were having a party and they came and did a random shootout, so like I said, they are pathetic people who need a life.

Brooklyn
07-06-06, 07:19 PM
Yea, I understand you believe they're pathetic. I was just wondering though did you also have a problem with them because their parents don't love them and they think of the gang as a family. That's the way it looked from your first post.

kovanfleet
07-06-06, 07:35 PM
Gangs are just a bunch of pathetic group of kids who parents dont love them, so they turn to gangs thinking its a family, I dont like them and when I walk by them I look in there faces, there pathetic excuses for life.

i agree totaly, bunch of pusses that cant fight there own battles so they join a bunch of fake a$$ punks that think there bad cuase they got a hand gun in there pocket.

outlaw3179
07-06-06, 07:57 PM
Theres like a butload of gangs at my school...they were all trying to recruit me cuz of my bo staffing skills.

kovanfleet
07-06-06, 08:17 PM
they always want guys with sweet skills.

The Sandman
07-06-06, 09:05 PM
Al Qaeda does it. Why not these street terrorists?

Echo_Four_Bravo
07-07-06, 12:52 AM
They're all just a waste of skin. Anyone that holds the human life in such low regard should be ashamed to call themselves human.

LittleDevilDog
07-07-06, 08:57 AM
Yea, I understand you believe they're pathetic. I was just wondering though did you also have a problem with them because their parents don't love them and they think of the gang as a family. That's the way it looked from your first post.

Brooklyn... not sure why you keep questioning NYcity, here.

Case in point is.. they're A WASTE OF BREATH AND FLESH. Not sure why we're stretching this past limits it needeth not be stretched..

Brooklyn
07-07-06, 03:27 PM
Brooklyn... not sure why you keep questioning NYcity, here.



I didn't keep questioning him. It was one question. Why did I ask it? Perhaps i was curious?

Marine84
07-07-06, 04:07 PM
Or maybe Brooklyn is in one...............? Even though I don't know what kind of gang it would be in LA - The Gater Squad?

Brooklyn
07-07-06, 05:20 PM
Heh...funny, you obviously don't know much about LA.

But, no, I'm not in a gang. I don't need others for support and I don't walk with a crutch. I just thought it was a little strange that he threw in there that he didn't like them becuase their parents don't love them and they're looking for a family.

LittleDevilDog
07-09-06, 10:01 AM
Nothing personal, Brooklyn. But regardless of the reason each person hates gangs (no reason is a bad one), they're TRASH.

Just saying..

Brooklyn
07-09-06, 04:39 PM
Nothing personal, Brooklyn. But regardless of the reason each person hates gangs (no reason is a bad one), they're TRASH.

Just saying..

Thank you for telling me your opinion on the matter...again.

LittleDevilDog
07-09-06, 04:53 PM
Wasn't stating a opinion. ;)

I'm going to leave it at that.. I'm gonna drop it.