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06-16-06, 05:55 PM
June 16, 2006

Shackles removed from confined Marines, sailor

By Gidget Fuentes
Times staff writer

OCEANSIDE, Calif. — Military officials on Friday said they have decided to remove shackles put on seven confined Marines and one sailor whenever they’re outside their individual cells at the Camp Pendleton brig, a Marine Corps spokesman said.

The eight men, confined at the brig since May 24, were being held with “maximum” restraints based on their battalion commander’s decision following an initial investigation into the shooting. As of Friday, they were shifted into what’s called “medium-in” restraint in pre-trial custody, which does not require shackles to be worn, although they remain escorted anytime they are outside their cell, according to 2nd Lt. Lawton King, a base spokesman.

Under “medium-in,” they won’t have any personal restraint while inside the brig, but once outside – such as to go to a court hearing – each “is restrained with handcuffs attached to a leather belt … and their respective escorts carry along leg cuffs in the event they are needed,” King said.

The decision to lower the restraint level came after a June 15 review by the brig commander, he said.

The seven Marines and Navy corpsman, all members of the Pendleton-based 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines currently deployed in Iraq, were first confined to quarters in Iraq on May 12 after allegations rose over the April 26 death of an Iraqi man in the village of Hamdaniya.

Families and defense attorneys representing three of the men had been complaining publicly and to base officials about the confinement measures that were imposed. The brig houses Marines and sailors who are awaiting court hearings or courts-martial as well as those convicted and serving a sentence.

Each of the men are in an 8-foot by 9-foot cells, alone, in a section called “special quarters,” where they receive their meals. Each gets one hour a day to spend at an enclosed outdoor courtyard, where they could exercise if they want, and they can meet with their attorneys in a small private room and with family members in a visitors’ room during weekend and holiday visiting hours.

Jeremiah Sullivan III, a San Diego attorney representing the sailor, a 20-year-old third-class hospital corpsman, has likened the conditions to worst than what convicted felons at the federal “Supermax” prison must endure.

David M. Brahms, a retired brigadier general and attorney in Carlsbad, Calif., who’s met with many of the families, is representing a 21-year-old lance corporal.

The men are “shafted and shackled in the worst conditions being imposed,” Brahms said June 14. “Saddam [Hussein] has a better circumstance than these guys.”

The eight men will remain in special quarters in individual cells, said Maj. Jeffrey Nyhart another base spokesman. Base officials say the brig, which is a Level II confinement facility, does not have “solitary confinement,” unlike prisons including Fort Leavenworth.

Source: http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1875786.php


06-16-06, 06:12 PM
Just who is or was there battalion CO? I think that this is going to be a black eye to our Corps no matter which way this turns out. So I belive the thing to do is srick up for the 7 Marines and one Salor. They have the deck stacked aginest them now. I all so belive that the battalion co needs to be looked at and investagated more.

06-16-06, 07:32 PM
Sometimes, such as this, shiat should roll uphill, all the way to General Hagee, IMHO.


06-16-06, 08:17 PM
Seems to me kind of funny that the restaints came off AFTER the CO of the Iraq Theater of Operations received the preliminary report from the investigators of the alleged massacre. Makes you wonder, don't it?

06-16-06, 09:21 PM
This still total bull sh!t. They are still being stuck in an 8 x 9 cell for 23 hours a day. Been there (prolife work) - and it sucks like there is tomorrow. You want to bang your head off the walls....

06-16-06, 09:48 PM
Lets go Shadowman777 I"ll ride with ya and bring my ropes too..

06-16-06, 10:10 PM
Lets go Shadowman777 I"ll ride with ya and bring my ropes too..

Old salt former Marines - and even Nam Vets? We'd scare them sh!tless - as we've been through the same sh!t they have, but have more time in life, and have completed our time.

Day-yam - I pity the fools~!!! We would be their worst nightmare! F*cking, eh?

We'd need an OIC. Any available?

Still Marines - yet old enough to not give a sh!t. We are very dangerous people! LOL!

06-17-06, 12:06 AM
I live about 45 mins from
pendleton so we can use my place as the LOD.

06-17-06, 03:52 AM
WOW Steve... You guys should really go out there... you too "tom"... lol...

06-17-06, 10:55 PM
Devildogs up !!!! This sickens me to hear of there conditions, why is it we have gitmo conditions crammed down our throats but hardly a word about our own, which frigging side are we on anywho. Myself I think its time for both Pace and Hagee to ride off into the sunset, lets get some friggen backbone in there. And I thought my time had to much political crap in it.