Is this ture?

[MichaelG]

Everyone in my family does not want me to join the Marnies, they want me to go in the Air Force cause its easy and they dont wnat me to be dissapointed if I fail. They are always telling me how I might fail or I get beat. Well one of my sisters friends came back from Marine basic training and told my sister some stuff and now shes like "Hey mike my friend just got back from the Marnies and said that they spit in his face and beat him and one of his friends." She siad that he was beat so bad that he had to go to the hospital. Now is this true can they really beat you till you go to the hospital? I was kinda sceptical about this but came here to ask.

Thanks,
Michael Gwyn

[quillhill]

Well, I can't say for sure about Marine Corps recruit training, but I would be surprised if the policy isn't the same. I know that the training instructor's at Air Force basic military training are NOT allowed to touch trainees. I would imagine it's the same for Marine Corps drill instructors, so I am calling major BS on the tale your sister is trying to weave.

If you want to be a Marine, go talk to a recruiter. There's lots of information out there and tons of videos of recruit training like "Making of a Marine" and "Parris Island Drill Instructors" that will give you an idea of what recruit training, (aka boot camp) is really like.

And if you want a comparison, I'll burn a copy of the Air Force BMT DVD of my brother in law's flight from last summer. It's an hour long and it gives an inside look at AF training.

If you want to be a Marine, you want to be one of the best, one of the few, the proud. Keep doing your research with INFORMED sources and listen to your heart.

The Air Force is fine. I'm glad my brother in law selected that branch. It suits him. Not everyone can be a Marine. Would I be just a bit prouder if he had gone that route? Absolutely. Was it any of my business to try and influence his decision on which branch he chose? Absolutely NOT.

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

A Drill Instructor cannot hit a recruit. Not saying it never happens, because it might. But, the DI would really wish he didn't... it would mean the end of his Marine Corps career. And I see no way that a recruit could be beaten so badly that it required a trip to the hospital, and yet it didn't make national news.

I was injured in boot camp (actually, a few times) and I saw first hand that it would be difficult for a DI to get away with it. Just weeks before graduation my head got into a fight with a step leading to the squad bay. The step won, and I got to make a trip to the hospital for stitches. From that day, until the day before graduation when the stitches and bandages were removed, I was stopped often (when going to medical) by DIs from other companies wanting to know what happened. It was often difficult to convince them that I had actually fallen in the ladder well and that it wasn't the result of a DI gone bad.

[Static_Sky25]

Drill Instructors and other recruits are not allowed to beat or even verbally abuse you. However if some drill instructor happens to have an overabundance of saliva you may be an unwilling recipient if he is screaming in your face, but I have never seen a Drill Instructor intentionally spit on a recruit. also whats called "blanket parties" sometimes happen these are usually doled out to the "a$$ recruit" because when he messes up other recruits as well as himself can and usually are punsihed by "I.T." (Incentive training) but these are strictly prohibited by Marine Corps regulations but as some people say "it's only wrong if your caught"

So while you will not get "beat" it's not suggested that you become a habitual screw-up
and no DI will spit on you on purpose

[MichaelG]

Thanks for the info guys. I do have a video of Marnie training its called "Ears open, Eyeballs click". Its a pretty good movie some parts were kinda boring but its pretty good.

[Noci]

Some kid got the butt of riflr to his eye in my Plt, I got jacked in the gut, foot swept and picked up by my nostrils! I pretty much deserved it and would NEVER dime out a DI.

[GySgtRet]

You raise a question that has been asked many times. Yes it does happen and no it isn't swept under the carpet. For a Marine Drill Instructor to do such a thing would be a carreer stopper period. As Echo_Four_Bravo points out I concure. I was injured by my own stupidity while at recruit traing in 73. The Navy docs asked me what happen. Did a Drill Instructor strike you? Were you denied medical treatment. This was worse than the injury was. I was and still am loyal to the Marines Corps. If I had said anything derogitory towards any Drill Instructor there would have been a massive investigation on the alligations. Of course I did not have to press charges because no abuses had occured. So when somebody has a friend of a friend that tells somebody else it may be a complete different story that actually happened. Check it out for yourself and get your own answers, but please do not put the recruiter on the spot by asking this, you will not being going there to probe alligations if you want to be a Marine fine then do it other than that go somewhere else. I have to be blunt because you need to know the truth.

[His_angel]

Everyone in my family does not want me to join the Marnies, they want me to go in the Air Force cause its easy and they dont wnat me to be dissapointed if I fail.
Thanks,
Michael Gwyn

Once you reach a certain age you have to own your decisions.
1. You go AF instead of Marines. You may love it and never regret it.
2. You go AF instead of Marines. You hate it and blame yourself and you blame those who didn't support your original decision.
3. You go Marines and fail. At least you tried. Can't regret something you at least tried.
4. You go Marines. You graduate boot and know pride unlike anything anyone other than a Marine can comprehend.

Lots of scenerios and possibilities. You are going to be the one that has to serve out a contract if you join. Not your parents. You have to be dedicated and motivated about the decision you make. Of course there is always ...

1. Go to AF basic and pass. Decide 4 years down the road to join Marines. Have to do Marine boot camp.
2. Go Marines boot and graduate. Decide 4 years later to go AF instead. You won't have to go to AF boot.

At least that's how it was when I served. Someone correct me if that has since changed.

angel

[Noci]

Good points Angel!

[Curt Geezus]

I have two friends in the Air Force, they think I'm stupid for joining the Marines..but they never give a reason other then its hard.

Consider this: 86% of recruits make it through boot camp. I have seen several people make it through boot camp and they werent anything special. If you prepare yourself, why would you worry about failing?? Its not BUD/S or something like that. You can do it.

[Noci]

86% make it thru Marine Corp Boot, if so thats sad it was like 68% when I went.

[rktect3j]

I was never hit nor did I ever see a recruit hit. It just never happend while I was there and I did 4 months instead of 3.

[Poskew]

If something like that does happen to me while I'm in basic training I will probly deserve it. Other than that I'm not going to take it personal or worry about it.

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

Poskew, that is an outstanding answer. It is the same way I thought of it. But now, looking back, I know that it isn't right. If a DI beats you up, they should pay the price. (I'm not talking about just a little push or punch, but being really beat up)

[Poskew]

Yes sir. The only way I could see a recruit getting stomped like that is only if they probly took a swing at the Drill Instructor or something extreme along those lines. I'm going to stick to my response on if it happens to me I probly deserve it and also I'm not going to worry about it and let it affect my choice of joining the Marine Corps. Think about this though, if it happens and people know about it and it didn't go public it was probly because that recruit did something so extreme to deserve a beating that bad. Or like I said before the Drill Instructor might have just been defending himself. I wouldn't fully know due to the fact I haven't been to basic traning yet. I'm just throwing in my two cents. :)


Poskew

[Marine84]

I never saw anything like that - now I did see some of the DIs sooooooooo mad at a recruit that they covered her with spit while they chewed her out and that recruit was GONE within 24 hours. They yelled at us, turned red in the face with the bulging vein on the forehead but none of them touched anybody.

As far as your struggle between the Corps and the AF.................it was the same for me. I went to go see an AF recruiter first (thank GOD he wasn't a good salesman!) - coming out of his office, the Marine recruiter stopped me and said "you don't want to talk to him - you want to talk to me" and I did - he was a REALLY good salesman! :bunny: (I still remember his name - SSGT Manuel Pierre Beasley). What His Angel posted was the selling point for me - I could always go AF if I didn't like the Corps and I wouldn't have to do bootcamp again. Besides, I knew the Corps was the hardest one and I just wanted to see if I could do it. And the rest is history.......................:banana:

[Tallboot]

Its always "my friend that did so and so said" or "My best friends friend said" blah blah blah, your really think they would get people to consider joining the Marine Corps if they did that? Anything that happens to you in Bootcamp you probably deserved it. They dont spit in your face and degrade you, the point of being so hard is to Moto you, and make you work harder and give it your all even if you fail at it. If you dont wanna join the Corps then dont, bc you wont make it if you dont want it.

[Noci]

I sawa recruit push a DI while I was in PCP. He caught an ass beating that was sweet. The rest of us shut our sucks!

[His_angel]

DI's didn't have to lay a hand on anyone to hurt them and make them wish they had not done or said something or made them wish they had done or said what they were supposed to. I couldn't count the times I was yelled, screamed and hollared at. Usually followed by a round of pushups, mountain climbers, running in place or some other dreaded form of physical punishment. I don't recall being hit or anyone else being hit by a DI. Unless of course it was in the course of training such as pugil sticks or hand to hand combat.

Ever consider that the friend of a friend of a friend was just making up stuff to make it sound worse than it is so he could look better for his efforts? Or the natural effects of gossip when things get ellaborated and added to each time the story is told one person to another? Or just maybe the whole fairy tale story was concocted to prusuade you not to join the Marines?

angel

[Noci]

I have felt and seen it, but I do not disagree with it. He's teaching me to go to combat not be a waiter.

[Tallboot]

Id rather be hit, then do a bunch a push ups, sit ups, and mountain climbers, in the middle of day in the sun 96ºF anyday, but i dont get that choice.

[Noci]

LOL I'd rather niether, but you get what ya get.

[Poskew]

I wouldn't mind either. Heck I might as well take as much as possible there so I'm stronger when I hit the Fleet.

[Geetar]

One other point should be made that I haven't seen posted yet. Once you raise your right hand and take the oath, The Marine Corps is going to try their best to make you into a Marine. If you have trouble in boot camp, the D.I.'s are going to be there to help you out. The are going to shape and mold you, teach you things you never dreamed of.

If you still have trouble... well, worst case scenario is that you might get recycled to the next series for additional training. The U.S. Government, The Marine Corps, and American tax payers have made a large investment into you becoming a Marine. You can be sure that they are going to do their best to get 4 years of service in return. It takes a lot for them to just walk out the door and go home. I read somewhere once that the average cost to put a recruit through boot camp is upwards of $200,000. That's not cheap.

Good luck with your choice.

[ringoffire]

Echo four Bravo, GysgtRet, & Geeter all made very good points and I have to agree with them. My Husband was DI at Parris Island; They are not allowed to beat-up recruits. I have never heard of a DI spitting on a recruit, either, not intentionally. If you want to become a Marine, you will. Keep failure out of your mind and believe in yourself. The DIs are hard on recruits, but they don't want you to fail and will do what they can for you, but you have to put forth the effort, too. Like Geetar said, worse case is you get recycled for additional training. Also, I have never heard of a DI letting a recruit fail, it's just not an option.

[LittleDevilDog]

Yes sir. The only way I could see a recruit getting stomped like that is only if they probly took a swing at the Drill Instructor or something extreme along those lines. I'm going to stick to my response on if it happens to me I probly deserve it and also I'm not going to worry about it and let it affect my choice of joining the Marine Corps. Think about this though, if it happens and people know about it and it didn't go public it was probly because that recruit did something so extreme to deserve a beating that bad. Or like I said before the Drill Instructor might have just been defending himself. I wouldn't fully know due to the fact I haven't been to basic traning yet. I'm just throwing in my two cents. :)


Poskew

Oh, please thank me that I found this.

It's BOOTCAMP not BASIC TRAINING.

Bootcamp = HARD STOMPIN' MARINES!

Basic Training = The BASIC Army.. with BASIC Training.

[Poskew]

Boot Camp ? Ha I'm sorry.

[TazMatt]

I will say that it does happen because it happened to me when I was in Boot Camp,but it didn't kill me and today none the wosrt for it. A corporal sucker punched me for something I had done I don't remember what but as I stated it didn't kill me or anything and if I think hard about it I probably deserved it . I enjoy reading post where everybody says that nothing ever happens,wake up every body knows it happens just not to the extreme that some people say. I spent six years in the Corp and never was affected by what happened.Semper Fi Sgt.Matt 69-75:flag: :usmc:

[WannabeAT]

I enlisted in the Marines because I have always heard it was the hardest. That's why I want to go to boot camp. I would feel like I cheated myself if I took the "easy route" Not saying the other boot camps are easy, because I've never been to any of the service's boot camps so I can't say, but from what I hear, they aren't as demanding as Marine Corps boot camp is. I wanted to take the hardest route and get what I think to be, the best title. Boot camp being hard is not a good reason not to join. All my friends think I'm crazy too. I've even got a lot of family members still trying to talk me out of it, after I signed a contract and everything.

[Geetar]

Honestly, the hardest thing to me was climbing the rope. I had never climbed a rope prior to going. My technique sucked and therefore I fell short of the top just by inches on my first attempt. After a major butt chewing, which is to be expected, they gave me a some tips to help me get to the top. My problem was that I didn't used my feet and legs properly. I relied on upper body strength alone and wore myself out too quickly. They showed me how to lock the rope with my feet and support my weight with my legs.

Good luck!!

[marinegreen]

A smack here and there never killed anyone,pain heals.And bruises go away.The DI'S are there to Help and make you succeed and if you dont concentrate and stay focused you might recieve a love tap.TAKE THE PAIN !!! ITS TEMORARY !!!!