Answer Back To Immigrant No Shopping Day

[semperfiman]

Subject: Buy something on May 1st!!!!
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> > > On Monday May 1, 2006 the illegal aliens are threatening to
> > >> do absolutely no shopping of any kind. They want to show Americahow
> > >> powerful their numbers are by staying home and by not spending their
> > >> money at the stores; to show us how much we need them. - In response,
> > >> every American should go to at least one store and buy at least one
> > >> item. It doesn't take much of our time or money. Let's send our
> > >> message out that we won't be pushed around and bullied. If Americans
> > >> don't do something, and just stand around and watch these aggresive
> > >> demands WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR COUNTRY IN OUR LIFETIME.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > > Shop on May 1 - and pass this on to all your friends and relatives.

[Hocker]

[quote=semperfiman]Subject: Buy something on May 1st!!!!
> > >
> > > On Monday May 1, 2006 the illegal aliens are threatening to
> > >> do absolutely no shopping of any kind. They want to show Americahow
> > >> powerful their numbers are by staying home and by not spending their
> > >> money at the stores; to show us how much we need them. - In response,
> > >> every American should go to at least one store and buy at least one
> > >> item. It doesn't take much of our time or money. Let's send our
> > >> message out that we won't be pushed around and bullied. If Americans
> > >> don't do something, and just stand around and watch these aggresive
> > >> demands WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR COUNTRY IN OUR LIFETIME.
> > >>
I have a wife and 3 kids I have no freakin choice but to buy something everyday.
But we should take it a step further ,stop selling stuff to all immigrants and maybe they would all go the F home.

[jennifer]

BLAH BLAH BLAH... IM NOT AN IMMIGRANT BUT I AM MEXICAN AND ITS ABOUT TIME THAT WE STAND UP... AND US MEXICANS ARENT THE ONLY IMMIGRANTS IN THE U.S, THERE IS ALSO PEOPLE THAT COME ILLEGALY FROM EUROPE, IRELAND... AND OTHERS... SO THEREFORE, MEXICANS ARE NOT THE ONLY IMMIGRANTS HERE... THERE ARE WHITE IMMIGRANTS TOO :/ AND IM GOING TO WORK... I DONT THINK I HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE... BUT I 100% SUPPORT WHAT MY PEOPLE ARE DOING

[Wyoming]

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Ok, dear Jennifer, I ‘think’ I see where you are coming from. No, the Mexican people are not, by any means, the only immigrants in the US. The argument can be made that we are ALL immigrants and that the Indian was here 1st. Even that doesn’t hold water when you think and read that ‘they’ immigrated across the strait to Alaska, etc., etc.

Support your people? That is a fine undertaking. You say that you are NOT an immigrant. OK, but isn’t all of this about ‘illegal’ immigration? Hasn’t the fire been fueled by the United States flag being flown upside down? Haven’t numerous Hispanic politicos in LA come out in favor of all of this mess?

It’s written somewhere that the biggest portion of ‘illegals’ are working as domestics. For shame that a soccer Mom should have to clean her own toilet.

It’s also said that that ‘illegals’ are taking jobs way from the ‘Americans, or legal folks who live here. I say bull. Try to get some of the welfare folks to pick tomatoes or follow the crops or whatever. The porch monkeys ain’t going to do it, at all.

Go for it, support your people. Remember, your people are citizens of this country. If they are 'illegal', what right do they have in this mess.


I have traveled to many, many, many foreign countries, and that is exactly what I was, a foreigner. No allowances were given me because I didn’t speak the language. None. Only in your finer establishments did an English translation appear. Why was that? The all mighty dollar.


I think it is best, as you say, that you go to work. Something tells me that the Marine Corps will not be forgiving.


One last thing, I do not always agree with all that is said or written by others.

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[Wyoming]

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I tried to edit my above post, but it appears I exceeded the time limit imposed.

I wanted to add that folks should read the descriptions of the forums -


Open Squad Bay Exchange ideas and thoughts with your Band of Brothers. Remember to be courteous and respectful.


That works for me.

[rsta]

Jennifer, you're 100% wrong! You are part of the problem and not part of the solution. There wasn't one word said about Mexicans, white, black, red, purple, or green, only illegal. If you support illegal activity on this scale you need to wake up. Are you not showing up for work tomorrow in support of them?

[Hocker]

And she doesn't support her people coming here un-regulated, we live in a system were everything is balanced , unfortunately we have some liberal fags that like to give everything away for free , nothing is for free my friends it all has a cost .

They come here to have babies and we pay for it, they get sick we pay for it , I'm sick of paying for **** that ain't mine , I have my own squad to take care of and a few others (kids friends that have parents that suck at being parents), and I dont mind doing that , but these blood sucking maggots come here knowing they will get a free hand outs and our Gov. lets them do it.

When will Americans go protest that we will not pay taxes with out proper representation . Demand same status for non paying medical attention and tax breaks, illegals dont pay taxes , get free medical and get same rights has we do , BULL****!!!!! Crap I'm mad now ,sorry,,
I just shut down my transportation Co. because of fuel prices $3.19 diesel at the pump. While my fellow Marines take it hard every day in Iraq , sorry I'm not a politician, either we pull out or annihilate the bastards and aquire their oil fields that where paid for in blood by US Marines ,Navy, Army and Air Force personal on behalf of the USA.
Sempir Fi.

[OLE SARG]

Well said Hocker!!!!!! By God I feel the same way. It's about time our politicians (and I use that word loosely) in D.C. get some gonads and take a stand on this issue. It seems like all they are concerned with is who is going to vote for their fatasses. I urge them to do their job and do it NOW!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[jinelson]

My two cents is I am an American and "my people" are the American people. We dont have African Marines, Irish Marines, Mexican Marines, English Marines, Japanese Marines, Chinese Marines, Vietnamese Marines, German Marines, Scottish Marines, French Marines, or any other nationality Marines only United States Marines. Why must we have nationality Americans. A house divided shall not stand and Im glad that the Corps has the leadership to make that be, and wish our government did as well.

[Wyoming]

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Good posts all.

The key word here is 'illegals', not Mexican.

Jennifer, it may interest you to see the outcome of a demonstration of this type in Mexico City, or Havana, or Hong Kong, or Caracas, or Bogota, or Malabo, or any of the other places where the citizenry has the same rights as they have here. And what do you think the outcome would be of the demonstrator on the White House lawn? Would she have done this in Hong Kong or on the mainland, and gotten away with it?



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[Osotogary]

Down here in South Florida there was an idea floating around that the National Anthem be re-worded to Spanish so that those of spanish speaking descent could sing along. How about those apples? Somethings you just shouldn't mess with and the National Anthem is one of them. Then again, everything else seems to have been messed with so why not the National Anthem?
Immigrant No Shopping Day- Isn't today a mass protest day all over the world? I could be wrong but it sure seemed like May the 1st was always a Communist/Socialist day of protest? Workers rights always seemed to be the focal point of these protests. Please correct me if I am wrong. Everything just seems to be coincidental.

[jgorosco]

I am an AMERICAN by birth and and not one member of my family has crossed the so called border at all. I am brown colored and to be honest I am ashamed of all the hispanic people crying for rights that ILLEGAL people should have. Last time I looked if you are an ILLEGAL you have NO RIGHTS!! And as for Jennifer backing HER people, is a very ignorant remark. Her people over in Mexico do not even like Hispanics here in America. I will do what I can to boycott businesses that support this idiotic movement. Funny thing is these idiots are using a famous quote from Cesar Chavez who was AGAINST ILLEGAL Immigrants. If they only knew that he would go to the borders like the Minute Men and stop them from coming over!! He even used violence to stop them from coming over.

But seriously we need to do what we can to boycott businesses that support this May 1st day, we need to write anyone and everyone in political office to get our voice heard. My 2 cents.

[DobbinsBlythe]

Every day, people come to the US of A LEGALLY in order to gain freedom, respect, and a new chance at life. No disrespect to different races or places of origin, but if they can't play by the rules, they have no right being here, eating our food, taking our jobs, and DEFINATELY not changing words to our Anthem, policy regarding OUR FLAG, and regarding this place as THEIR HOME. It's not their home until they've earned it. Every American citizen has earned their right to stay here somehow or another, or have gotten their asses kicked (wether physically or verbally) for not doing so. This topic is such a fireball. This is America. We don't speak English, we speak AMERICAN. If I go back to Korea, we speak Korean. You don't come to another country expecting them to bend to your will. It's a privalege to see the world. It's a privalege to have an opportunity for change in your life. A country does not bend to people. People make the country, people bend to the will of the greater good. Meaning, you don't like it, change it if you have the right to. If you don't have the right, DEAL with it.

"Ask not what you're country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." -JFK

I think that speaks pretty loud. The eyes of an American child crying because some idiot without citizenship is burning their flag at school and someone TOLERATING IT--that speaks a million and a half words. I'm going to have kids one day. If someone messes up their America, I'm going to mess them up. I think that's how pretty much everyone feels.

Much Love
-Maria

[bugs]

BLAH BLAH BLAH... IM NOT AN IMMIGRANT BUT I AM MEXICAN AND ITS ABOUT TIME THAT WE STAND UP... AND US MEXICANS ARENT THE ONLY IMMIGRANTS IN THE U.S, THERE IS ALSO PEOPLE THAT COME ILLEGALY FROM EUROPE, IRELAND... AND OTHERS... SO THEREFORE, MEXICANS ARE NOT THE ONLY IMMIGRANTS HERE... THERE ARE WHITE IMMIGRANTS TOO :/ AND IM GOING TO WORK... I DONT THINK I HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE... BUT I 100% SUPPORT WHAT MY PEOPLE ARE DOING
Very, very disturbing! And 'us' Mexicans???? Are you American or Mexician?
So easy t point the finger at others, cuz one of the other posters pointed out, the org post did not single out any one country's ILLEGAL immigrants, so stop whining!
What is your defenition of ILLEGAL? When does it become legal to be illegal? So if i go on a robery spree, how many will it take before i can do it legally?? ZERO, it will never be legal because it is ILLEGAL!

[Old Marine]

There are two key words in these posts.

They are LEGAL an ILLEGAL.

[Wyoming]

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Jennifer, you need to read this. It was posted elsewhere by Chuck. It this what you support? Do you really claim these people as yours?


"You old white people. It is your duty to die."

Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets; "Go back to Boston! Go back to PlymouthRock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over.

Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council. "They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over . . . We are here to stay ."

Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico, "The American Southwest seem to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot."

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas; "We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population . . . I love it. They are ****ting in their pants with fear. I love it."

Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, "Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California."

Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor, "We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country. . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, "I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back."

Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton, "California is going to be a Hispanic state. Anyone who doesn't like it should leave."

Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General , "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California."

Professor Fernando Guerra, Lo yola Marymount University; "We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos . . . "

Are these just the words of a few extremists? Consider that we could fill up many pages with such quotes. Also, consider that these are mainstream Mexican leaders.

THE U.S. VS MEXICO:

On February 15, 1998, the U.S. and Mexican soccer teams met at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The crowd was overwhelmingly pro-Mexican even though most lived in this country. They booed during the National Anthem and U.S. flags were held up side down. As the match progressed, supporters of the U.S. team were insulted, pelted with projectiles, punched and spat upon. Beer and trash were thrown at the U.S. players before and after the match. The coach of the U.S. team, Steve Sampson said, This was the most painful experience I have ever had in this profession."

Did you know that immigrants from Mexico and other non-European countries can come to this country and get preferences in jobs, education and government contracts? It's called affirmative action or racial privilege. The Emperor of Japan or the President of Mexico could migrate here and immediate ly be eligible for special rights unavailable for Americans of European descent. Recently, a vote was taken in the U.S. Congress to end this practice. It was defeated. Every single Democratic senator except Ernest Hollings voted to maintain special privileges for Hispanic, Asian and African immigrants. They were joined by thirteen Republicans. Bill Clinton and Al Gore have repeatedly stated that they believe that massive immigration from countries like Mexico is good. They have also backed special privileges for these immigrants.

Corporate America has signed on to the idea that minorities and third world immigrants should get special, privileged status. Some examples are Exxon, Texaco, Merrill Lynch, Boeing, Paine Weber, Starbucks and many more.

DID YOU KNOW?:

Did you know that Mexico regularly intercedes on the side of the defense in criminal cases involving Mexican nationals? Did you know that Mexico has NEVER extradited a Mexican national accused of murder in the U.S. in spiteof agreements to do so? According to the L.A. Times, Orange County, California s home to 275 gangs with 17,000 members; 98% of which are Mexican and Asian. How's your county doing?

According to a New York Times article dated May 19, 1994, 20 years after the great influx of legal immigrants from Southeast Asia, 30% are still on welfare compared to 8% of households nationwide. A Wall Street Journal editorial dated December 5, 1994 quotes law enforcement officials as stating that Asian mobsters are the "greatest criminal challenge the country faces." Not bad for a group that is still under 5% of the population.

Is education important to you? Here are the words of a teacher who spentover 20 years in the Los Angeles School system. "Imagine teachers in classes containing 30-40 students of widely varying attention spans and motivation, many of whom aren't fluent in English. Educators seek earning materials likely to reach the majority of students and that means fewer words and math problems and more pictures and multicultural references."

WHEN I WAS YOUNG:

When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island. They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.

HOW CAN YOU HELP?:

Send copies of this letter to at least two other people, 100 would be even better. Help us get the word out.

California Coalition for Immigration Reform
5942 Edinger, Suite 113-117
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone 714 921 7142

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[csilva]

that last quote with the soccer match was very disturbing, i did not know how bad it has become, and i recently tried to research on the "illegal" immigration issues, and America needs to be accountable for everyone entering this country, european, asian, latino, or african. our government has to know and be accountable for anyone living in our communities. it is not only an economic issue, it is a safety issue as well.

[chafas2531]

:marine: Gunny, that is so profound! Sometimes simplicity is bliss! What part of illegal is not understood? That is the question I would ask to any proponent of this issue. Enough said! Brethren, this is still a land of laws and they must be enforced and obeyed. God bless America!
ben

[hoytarcher45]

Did anyone know that Mexico has taken its own steps to shut its border with the rest of Latin America, so that only its citizens can migrate to the US?
Did anyone also know that next to oil, mining, and agriculture, money pulled from the US economy is the number four way that Mexico generates revenue? Mexico is like a growth on the a$$ of America, and I dont see why the freakin fence isnt going up faster.

Just a thought....there is all this talk of diversity being such a great thing, and quotas in the workforce and in education are established everywhere. But why is diversity important anyway? ITS NOT! Diversity teaches someone to be more proud of their race, then the fact that they are Americans. We as a society need to forget the idea of diversity, and teach UNITY instead.

[Marine84]

Jennifer - here's blah, blah, blah back to ya.............that's funny - you proud of YOUR people when you're fighting for MINE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Even wearing OUR uniform, in OUR military?!?!?!?!?

Ain't nobody trying to keep YOUR people out of this country, we just want them to do it LEGALLY like YOU would have to do when you go to THEIR country.

If you're so proud of your heritage girl, spread the word and tell them that there is a legal way of getting into this country AND don't change MY National Anthem to something that is NOT mine. It doesn't even translate the same!

AND - since you're so proud of "your" people why haven't you moved over there, become a Mexican citizen and maybe get in with the federalis? You're one to worry about girl - I don't know if I like the idea too much of somebody "guarding my house at night" knowing she may let "her people" come on in if she takes a notion to.

Did you take the same oath I did when I was in the Corps?

[jryanjack]

Couple of thoughts -

Old Marine - you said it all!

Marine 84 - you beat me to my post! I'm not against immigration, just illegal immigration, if you come in legally then its fine, that's why we have laws!

[sniper 217]

Now hear this:
This is the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States of America</st1:place></st1:country-region>. We have fought and died to keep it that way.
You want to come into this country and live, then do it legally; If not stay out we don’t need you. I could care less about your countries problems. Stay home and fix them.
Just because you came in illegally doesn’t give you the right to stay and work here. If I was an employer and you walked off the job, just keep walking and don’t look back because you’re looking for other employment now. Close your shops I don’t care I’ll just find somewhere else to take my business. Here’s the knife cut your own throat you dumb a$$.

[sniper 217]

Bugs:
What more it there to say.
Either come in legaly become a citizen then you can complain, until then stay out and shut up.

[sniper 217]

jinelson:
Wrong; The only americans are the NATIVE Americans, but we treat them like they are third and fouth class citizens, the rest of us are immagrant too. But we are here legally, and we have been adopted to be called Americans by are citizenship. But I agree with the rest
Semper Fi

[jennifer]

ok so maybe i worded some things incorrectly... i apologize for starting a dispute... i dont think that they should come here illegally even though my mother and her family came here illegally... i was born here in california... but i am still mexican... mexican american... we do have laws for a reason... i dont see how people even give jobs to the illegal immigrants... thats just pretty much motivation for the rest of them to come here and get jobs... if people would stop giving illegal immigrants jobs then maybe we wouldnt have this problem... (illegal immigrants getting jobs here is one of the main reasons they come here...) im sorry to say this but we shouldnt be allowing illegal immigrants to come to america (although i have family that is still illegal immigrants, but they are workin on becomin u.s. citizens...)

[bugs]

Dont you mean you are a AMERICAN of Mexican decent???


ok so maybe i worded some things incorrectly... i apologize for starting a dispute... i dont think that they should come here illegally even though my mother and her family came here illegally... i was born here in california... but i am still mexican... mexican american... we do have laws for a reason... i dont see how people even give jobs to the illegal immigrants... thats just pretty much motivation for the rest of them to come here and get jobs... if people would stop giving illegal immigrants jobs then maybe we wouldnt have this problem... (illegal immigrants getting jobs here is one of the main reasons they come here...) im sorry to say this but we shouldnt be allowing illegal immigrants to come to america (although i have family that is still illegal immigrants, but they are workin on becomin u.s. citizens...)

[franco90]

see I knew this subject would get everyone on there toes . MAN just let it be

[DobbinsBlythe]

see I knew this subject would get everyone on there toes . MAN just let it be


We can't let it be. It's an issue that's going to rip our country apart if we don't fix it.

Jennifer, your people are the American people. You should be an American first. That's where your citizenship is. I tell people I'm an American. I was born and bred an Army brat from Ft. Riley, KS. My father was part Cherokee. My mother is Korean, but THAT is NOT my identity. I am an American. I'd only hope that the people fighting for my freedom would feel that way too. I'm concerned.

[rktect3j]

My two cents is I am an American and "my people" are the American people. We dont have African Marines, Irish Marines, Mexican Marines, English Marines, Japanese Marines, Chinese Marines, Vietnamese Marines, German Marines, Scottish Marines, French Marines, or any other nationality Marines only United States Marines. Why must we have nationality Americans. A house divided shall not stand and Im glad that the Corps has the leadership to make that be, and wish our government did as well.
I have been pushing this idea for a few years now. What we had fought for, for so long was to end segregation that was imposed on our society by the majority. Today we have those who are trying to segregate themselves through their minority status. Why? Because it pays to since we instituted new laws. For me you are either an American, green card holder seeking citizenship or illigal. Two of these belong here and they other does not.

[RLeon]

BLAH BLAH BLAH... IM NOT AN IMMIGRANT BUT I AM MEXICAN AND ITS ABOUT TIME THAT WE STAND UP... AND US MEXICANS ARENT THE ONLY IMMIGRANTS IN THE U.S, THERE IS ALSO PEOPLE THAT COME ILLEGALY FROM EUROPE, IRELAND... AND OTHERS... SO THEREFORE, MEXICANS ARE NOT THE ONLY IMMIGRANTS HERE... THERE ARE WHITE IMMIGRANTS TOO :/ AND IM GOING TO WORK... I DONT THINK I HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE... BUT I 100% SUPPORT WHAT MY PEOPLE ARE DOING
Aw, c'mon Jennifer. If you really cared about your people you would go UA and go March, that would be the ultimate expressio of your dedication...
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Look, as far as the Mexican aspect with this ILLEGAL immigrant problem you can blame Mexico's bad economy and corrupt government. Mexico supports these boycotts and protest becuase Mexico doesn't wan't to deal with their own people, they want to dump their problems on the US. These are the people that get mad when we deport illegals back to Mexico, but refuse groups from other Central American countries entry. Ask an Immigrant, illegal or legal from Central America which country was the worse one to travel through and they will tell you Mexico. The Corrupt police extort, harrass, and abuse them, while the gvernment looks away...but what do you expect from a country that legalizes drugs to get a boost in tourism.
If you really cared about your people you would march againts the government of Mexico.

[Range Coach]

I am seventh-generation born AMERICAN of German descent. I grew up speaking German at home. I'll never forget the day that my Grandmother slapped my face for speaking German in public. Later, she told me that it was okay to be proud of my heritage but I must NEVER forget that I am an AMERICAN first and should act and speak accordingly in public. This amazing woman (still alive at 97) knows what it means to be an American and will tell you without hesitation: "I have lost children, brothers, nephews and cousins, all of whom fought for this country and our way of life. Don't dishonor them." If it's better in "your" country, go back---but don't take my country and way of life with you.

[Ron Bragdon]

May Day in Red Square....
May Day in Beijing....
May Day in Havana....
May Day in MacArthur Park????
May Day in Central Park????
May Day in Boston Commons????

I thought we had defeated Communism, but ..
How is it that the Islamo-Fascist Terrorists are armed with AK-47s and RPGs?
How is it that the high holiday of International Communism is being celebrated in the USA?

To the hymn that begins with
"From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli"
perhaps we will have to add a verse beginning with
"From the barrios of East LA to the dens of Old DC".

One thing I learned in an over 10 year involvment in things Vietnamese, is that an enemy is as an enemy does. A supposedly benign and friendly appearing person could still be out to destroy your home, life, and liberty. What really hurts is that so often the person who harms you doesn't even know it, nor do they understand that they are following someone else's evil plan. They are too ignorant and naive to check out who is leading them. They become, to borrow from the old Communist Propagandists, "Running Dog Lackeys" doing their masters' will and bidding.

I recall for you to remember that Ho Chi Minh's forces never had a true victory on the battlefield. They never expected to. Everything in their war plan was geared to the American mass media, and to inciting riots and/or demonstrations hoping to be made into riots. The point of the exercises being to influence the Washington Wimps AKA the US Congress.

Oh.. A parting thought.. In a few days is the 5th of May, aka "Cinqo de Mayo". Before going all "whoop-ti-doo" about it, please observe that all it really signifies is that, if on their own home ground, even the Mexicans can beat the French.

[jennifer]

oorah... and yes i am an american first... i was and raised here in SO CAL... :D theres so much stuff going on around here in the world... i think that its a sign to the world comin to an end...
I am seventh-generation born AMERICAN of German descent. I grew up speaking German at home. I'll never forget the day that my Grandmother slapped my face for speaking German in public. Later, she told me that it was okay to be proud of my heritage but I must NEVER forget that I am an AMERICAN first and should act and speak accordingly in public. This amazing woman (still alive at 97) knows what it means to be an American and will tell you without hesitation: "I have lost children, brothers, nephews and cousins, all of whom fought for this country and our way of life. Don't dishonor them." If it's better in "your" country, go back---but don't take my country and way of life with you.

[Hocker]

This my have been said before I dont know , but if we took the Marines out of Iraq and put them on US boaders illegals wouldnt even be an issue any more.

[chafas2531]

:marine: Jennifer, my dear young L/Cpl. Firstly, you did not start a dispute, at least in my estimation, and secondly, the last time I studied History and Geography California was still part of the United States so anyone born in the United States is considered an American. Permit me to speak rather boldly and give you some straight dope. This generation seems to have lost its compass for reasoning and feels that anything goes or if you will, "whatever floats your boat." I'm sorry but that does not compute and I can't find that in any Marine Corps manual. I was born in Fort Hood, Texas and that makes me an American (third generation to be exact). My allegiance is to the constitution of the United States of America not any other country. Remember when we raised our right arm? No digo que no podemos tener orgullo en nuestra raize etnica pero que tenemos la honra de celebrar los dos. Y los que no saben o no entienden lo tenemos que demostrar y eso por lo bien. Understood? When our kids are not reading in school, instead of blaming the government, we look at ourselves and start studying twice as hard to change that. When our kids lag behind in Math we do the same. This generation seems to want to sidestep its responsibility and not do what is right. All Marines, past and present, are fully cognizant of this very fact. We must do what is right! Jennifer, you seem to be very bright but please let this old educated grunt encourage you to pursue your education and learn. Keep the ways we have been raised up in, at least the ones I know, and don't be afraid of being different. You are our future but you are listening to the contmeporary voice of today which calls out to do your own thing or to put it simply: politically correctness. There are reasons this country became what she is and there are reasons why she is becoming what it is, and that not too good. Your mission: do what I did when I was a young Marine--keep your mouth shut, ears and eyes open! You will be astonished to the amount of knowledge you will discover. Some good, some bad but nevertheless you will have learned. Finish your education while you are young and can afford it. God bless you young American!

[recon532002]

Just how it sounds I am so tired of the people that are being human doings they have fogotton how to be human beings. How would Christ have delt with this Mess. Everyone wants a freebee no one wants to work for it.
RECON:iwo:

[chafas2531]

Can someone please get me squared away as to why this was posted 6 different times. I don't know if I pushed a wrong key or tab? ben

[franco90]

you are so wrong for doing that to the Marine Hymn
I am hispanic and proud to serve been in the gun club since 1994 .

To the hymn that begins with
"From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli"
perhaps we will have to add a verse beginning with
"From the barrios of East LA to the dens of Old DC".

[franco90]

you are so wrong for doing that to the Marine Hymn
I am hispanic and proud to serve been in the Gun club since 1994



To the hymn that begins with
"From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli"
perhaps we will have to add a verse beginning with
"From the barrios of East LA to the dens of Old DC".

[Hocker]

Can someone please get me squared away as to why this was posted 6 different times. I don't know if I pushed a wrong key or tab? ben
I thought you were try to get a point across lol :flag:
Or the admins secretly want to make sure some one got the message.
Or you comp messed up.
I really dont F'n know , Sempir Fi

[beaufort bob]

To Jennifer:
Since when aren't Mexicans white? I believe they are part of the caucasion race no more than people from Ireland, England, Germany, et. al.
Nobody has ever said you can't come here. Just don't do it like thieves in the night. Yes, we are a country built by immigrants, but they didn't do it sneaking over the next door border. There has been a large gap since the mass immigigration of the Irish in the 1850's ande 18'60's, but they came here legally as did all of western Europeans. Did you ever here of Ellis Island , Jen. Well, maybe you should . People were checked for disease, especially TB and syph. If you were sick, you were turned back. Who the hell is turning you people back? In fact, diseases that we thought were gone forever are now re-surfacing, especially TB. Read between the lines , Jen.
I live in a town where a lot of construction is going on. If I was a contractor, I'd say to the workerswho striked today, "y'are out of a job" and I'd hire legal crews to replace them. But you know, we deserve what we get. We don't have the balls todeal with these people. Big business is comprised of a bunch of greedy bastards. It's a double edge sword. Just like 9/11, we bring things upon ourselves. the cow is always out of the barn.

[thedrifter]

You been squared away Marine....but I did think You you got Your point through.....;) :D

Ellie

[RLeon]

Can someone please get me squared away as to why this was posted 6 different times. I don't know if I pushed a wrong key or tab? ben
Don't know, but you made a great point in the following quote.

No digo que no podemos tener orgullo en nuestra raize etnica pero que tenemos la honra de celebrar los dos.
Nothing wrong with ethnic pride, but Nationality supercedes that, especially when a Nation is made up of many different ethnicities.

[kwikdri]

My Grandparents came from Italy...there were no signs in Italian, nobody "helping" them...they made it on there own by following the rules and "working" to become Americans. If a Mexicano wants to come here..do it like everyone else..LEGALLY...we don't need anymore bloodsucking parasites here that don't want to follow the rules yet yell they want this & that..GO HOME..They get medical care & SS that even our own citizens cant get..DISGUSTING

[Phantom Blooper]

I cross border poor and broke,
Take bus, see employment folk.

Nice man treat me
good in there,
Say I need to
see welfare.

Welfare say,
"You come no more,
We send cash
right to your door."

Welfare checks,
they make you wealthy,
Medicaid it keep
you healthy! !

By and by,
I got plenty money,
Thanks to you,
American dummy.

Write to friends
in motherland,
Tell them 'come
fast as you can.'

They come in turbans
and Ford trucks,
I buy big house
with welfare bucks

They come here,
we live together,
More welfare checks,
it gets better!

Fourteen families,
they moving in,
But neighbor's patience wearing thin.

Finally, white guy
moves away,
Now I buy his house,
and then I say,

"Find more aliens
for house to rent."
And in the yard
I put a tent.

Send for family
they just trash,
But they, too,
draw the welfare cash!

Everything is
very good,
And soon we
own the neighborhood.

We have hobby
it's called breeding,
Welfare pay
for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist?
Wife need pills?
We get free!
We got no bills!

American crazy!
He pay all year,
To keep welfare
running here.

We think America
darn good place!
Too darn good for
the white man race.

If they no like us,
they can scram,
Got lots of room in
Pakistan.

[JAMarine]

My put (opinion) is this. It's plain and simple.

IF YOU DON'T BELONG HERE, DON'T BE LONG HERE. Come into my Country legally as the law spells out or don't come at all.

All this Senate Crap that if you've been here between 0 - 3 years and 5+ years and 3 - 5 years....... Bull$hit. Where on earth is the NIS (National Immagration Service) (or whatever it's called) at while these March's are going on? Man "0" Man.... talk about a fishing hole.......

Thanks

[jennifer]

thanks all for your help :D and advice

[hoytarcher45]

Blood will run before I'm forced to go to Pakistan.

[artgle]

For Jennifer, Marine in San Diego.
Y'know? It's not the "Legal" immigrants that I have a problem with.
It's the ones who come here without papers, flaunting the system.
It's the one in Belmont, NC., so many D.U.I.s and keeps coming back under different names, until he Killed the husband and left the Mother a vegetable, and two infant children without care-takers.

Or the other one, same thing, until he killed that Honor-Roll student on Rte. 77 just south of Charlotte, NC.

The ones who come "Legally", and pay taxes, and do it "RIGHT", I'll hold the doors open to "GLADLY" welcome them.

It's the *&^%$# SCUM, like MS-13 that I have a problem with.

Semper Fi., Jenn, and God Speed your safe return.

Art

[jennifer]

WOOOOORD!!
For Jennifer, Marine in San Diego.
Y'know? It's not the "Legal" immigrants that I have a problem with.
It's the ones who come here without papers, flaunting the system.
It's the one in Belmont, NC., so many D.U.I.s and keeps coming back under different names, until he Killed the husband and left the Mother a vegetable, and two infant children without care-takers.

Or the other one, same thing, until he killed that Honor-Roll student on Rte. 77 just south of Charlotte, NC.

The ones who come "Legally", and pay taxes, and do it "RIGHT", I'll hold the doors open to "GLADLY" welcome them.

It's the *&^%$# SCUM, like MS-13 that I have a problem with.

Semper Fi., Jenn, and God Speed your safe return.

Art

[semperfiman]

I love a good debate. I'm sure some were opened today.

[rb1651]

Time for my two cents. I agree with all here that if you are here LEGALLY, I will welcome you with open arms, and give as much help and respect that I can give you to help you succeed. If you're NOT legal, I will also help you. I'll help you get your a** back across the border, be it north, south, east or west, as quick as possible. Just a short rant, last year we had an entire family of "legal" Hispanics, they had all of the proper paperwork to be here, get wiped out by an "illegal" Bosnian who was drag racing down the street and nailed their van as they were turning into Boylan H.S. to watch their daughter/graddaughter/sister/niece graduate. Six people lost their lives that afternoon because someone who had no right to be here killed them. Now these illegal immigrants are in my streets protesting? Bulls**t!!!

[semperfiman]

2 posts up eyes

[jennifer]

uh huh :D :banana:
Time for my two cents. I agree with all here that if you are here LEGALLY, I will welcome you with open arms, and give as much help and respect that I can give you to help you succeed. If you're NOT legal, I will also help you. I'll help you get your a** back across the border, be it north, south, east or west, as quick as possible. Just a short rant, last year we had an entire family of "legal" Hispanics, they had all of the proper paperwork to be here, get wiped out by an "illegal" Bosnian who was drag racing down the street and nailed their van as they were turning into Boylan H.S. to watch their daughter/graddaughter/sister/niece graduate. Six people lost their lives that afternoon because someone who had no right to be here killed them. Now these illegal immigrants are in my streets protesting? Bulls**t!!!

[hrscowboy]

25 mexican workers where fired today at griffin wheel here in Kansas City for not showing up for work...South west steel is giving out Pink slips in the Morning for the very same thing. Buttom line is WHOS YOUR DADDY NOW?????

[bugs]

HELLicopter YEA! Bout time someone took a stance and actually did something like that! But just wait and see, they'll hire some lawyer and they'll get their jobs back..........It's all legal till it's done to a minority - then it's all racial profiling! BS!
Anyway, if they can 'fire' a worker, chances are they were legal to be workingat that site????
I guess I dont understand how you can fire someone that is invisible to the system, by being illegal and not putting back into the system??

I actually told my son yesterday that there is NO WAY hewould join the service till this goverment opens their eyes and we obey ALL laws and inforce ALL laws that this country has been founded on!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[Phantom Blooper]

Sunday afternoon April 30, I went to the grocery store here in town. Due to the agriculture and industry here in eastern NC it has a fairly high percentage and ratio of immigrants...whether legal or illegal I really don't know.These markets around here have a pretty extensive line of products and vegetables to make a close to the border meal. I haven't asked to see green cards and my foreign language skills are nil. I have to use books when I traveled overseas.

Anyhow it was after one o'clock so the beer and spirits were able to be sold. Anyhow to make a long story short. They may have boycotted American owned businesses and product yesterday but they sure as hell was stocking up on the American made products and beer,wine,cigarettes ect. over the weekend. Go figure this one out...


Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall :evilgrin:

[chafas2531]

BeaufortBob. You are absolutely correct! We are Caucasion. Its our government again trying to pull a quick one over our eyes. Great post! We all must do the right thing! RLeon. Thanks but you omitted the last part: for the good of everyone, irregardless of color or whatever. That can be correctly construed as Americans. Hey, could you let me know where I can get your quote? PhantomBlooper. Super post! And I also love your post. The problem is that political correctness and this tolerance nonsense is giving away super duper ear plugs so the masses can't hear reveille and you know what "can't" means! That is the problem. They are teaching this nonsense to our kids in every instituion of education in this country, at least in the public sector. Have a great one my brethren and thanks for all the posts! Semper Fidelis!
ben

[thedrifter]

THE PICTURES YOU WON'T SEE
By Michelle Malkin · May 02, 2006 05:01 AM

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005112.htm

Ellie

[jennifer]

YA BUT WILL IT EVER BE LIKE THAT???


I actually told my son yesterday that there is NO WAY hewould join the service till this goverment opens their eyes and we obey ALL laws and inforce ALL laws that this country has been founded on!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

[chafas2531]

:usmc:
YA BUT WILL IT EVER BE LIKE THAT???
Jenn. As long as we have a Marine Corps and a people who will stand up for their convictions to do what is right, and notice I said what is right, not acceptable or popular, it will be like that. You see while we were asleep the enemy came in and spread their propaganda of P.Correctness and tolerance. The masses are eating it up and even our government is being seduced by it. We don't want to speak the truth because it may offend someone. I could care less who gets offended if it is truth. I pray no one ever needs the aid of an oncologist because he will get very offensive with us and the treatment even more offensive--just downright toxic to be straightforward! Yet I don't hear anyone crying over that offense. We don't want to offend muslims so we don't dare speak the truth. The government could have stopped 9/11 but was afraid of offending a certain group due to racial profiling. I can go on and on but space would not allow. Suffice to say that yes, there are still Americans who care and dare to stand up and speak truth irregardless of the consequences of their stance. Rightousness is what will exalt a nation. And righteousness entails "right living." We have seemd to have forgotton this somewhere along the way. You see a river runs the path of least resistance. Our society is doing likewise. Whatever is easy and non-offensive is the watchword of the day. Please don't make me work for it or earn it. That sounds like work and who wants that? God bless you Marine! Semper Fidelis!
ben:iwo:

[jennifer]

errrr.... KILL!! :evilgrin:
:usmc:
Suffice to say that yes, there are still Americans who care and dare to stand up and speak truth irregardless of the consequences of their stance. Rightousness is what will exalt a nation. And righteousness entails "right living." We have seemd to have forgotton this somewhere along the way. You see a river runs the path of least resistance. Our society is doing likewise. Whatever is easy and non-offensive is the watchword of the day. Please don't make me work for it or earn it. That sounds like work and who wants that? God bless you Marine! Semper Fidelis!
ben:iwo:

[rktect3j]

Suffice to say that yes, there are still Americans who care and dare to stand up and speak truth irregardless of the consequences of their stance. Rightousness is what will exalt a nation. And righteousness entails "right living." We have seemd to have forgotton this somewhere along the way. You see a river runs the path of least resistance. Our society is doing likewise. Whatever is easy and non-offensive is the watchword of the day. Please don't make me work for it or earn it. That sounds like work and who wants that? God bless you Marine! Semper Fidelis!
ben:iwo:
You can see this when a person askes others for advice. Two views are then given to him/her. One is the hard way that will get the job done. The other is usually from someone going nowhere who gives out the easy popular advice which is then taken. Of course after that you end up having to do it over again the right way which was offered up to you to begin with.

[bugs]

We can go on and on and debate this over and over and over again...I think we need to stop and ask ourselves this....

"IS IT OK TO BREAK A LAW - REGARDLESS OF YOUR OWN FEELING ABOUT THE LAW?"

Im going to create a new topic in this forum with this question.....

[chafas2531]

:marine: bugs. That is a toughie! Generally, NO! Let me reply with another retorical one: If you saw a child crossing a highway and the law was that no pedestrian was allowed on the highway, would you save the child? I know I would, in a heartbeat. So that brings us to a dilemma. In this case I would live with the consequences but assured in possibly saving a life. Good question! In some ways too ethical for me. Ethics is not my bag. Semper Fidelis!
ben:iwo:

[rktect3j]

:marine: bugs. That is a toughie! Generally, NO! Let me reply with another retorical one: If you saw a child crossing a highway and the law was that no pedestrian was allowed on the highway, would you save the child? I know I would, in a heartbeat. So that brings us to a dilemma. In this case I would live with the consequences but assured in possibly saving a life. Good question! In some ways too ethical for me. Ethics is not my bag. Semper Fidelis!
ben:iwo:
Which would then come down to the police having "good judgement" and "critical thinking". If not the police then the Judge that would then decide the case. But lets face it when that person went ontot he road/highway and saved the child he may inadvertantly cause an accident, killing several others. Its all just a what if...

[chafas2531]

:marine: I believe it should be left up to the intent of the law rather than the letter. Unfortunately, the latter always prevails and especially in this society and especially what the judge would normally espouse.
Semper Fidelis!
ben:iwo:

[bugs]

Were off base from the question.....the answer is yes or no? I'm not trying to be rude, and actually chafas2531 did answer with a NO.
I understand there are issues we all have with laws of this Country and/or States within, but is it OK to break the law - without facing the consequences?

[chafas2531]

Joe, the answer is a resoundedly NEGATIVE! Nine! No!
ben

[RLeon]

THE PICTURES YOU WON'T SEE
By Michelle Malkin · May 02, 2006 05:01 AM

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005112.htm

Ellie
Gee what a SHOCKER, the image of the mass murderer commie SOB Ernesto "El Che" Guevara....:mad:
That's got to be one of my biggest pet peeves...especially when you see people wearing Che shirts at "peace" rally's, or peace loving bleeding heart liberal celebrities...:sick:
War is not the Answer...unless your a socialist guerilla...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/echo4lima/No_Che.jpg

[Osotogary]

RLeon-
Dead revolutionary figures are often times of high commercial value.

Here's a brief drift of a conversation that I over heard not too long ago between two, had to be, early teenage youngsters.

"Man that shirt is bad. Who's the dude?
That Dude? That's Che, man, and he was for the oppressed and the underdog somewhere in South America or Cuba...where ever. The dude was cool.
I've got to get me one of those shirts. Later."

Yep, good old Che still has commercial value. Guess who's commercial value? Certainly not Che or Che's family.

I don't suspect that they know both sides of the Che story.

[junker316]

Chafas2531 and Jennifer may be a bit confused. Here is a good example for you both. since we all say pretty much the same thing on Illegal Aliens breaking the Law to be here and we all agree that they should do it legally. Now Imagine that our Nation decides to let all the prisoners out of jail, no matter what crime they have commited, and said that it is because they only did something a little wrong. Like Charlie Manson having his mob kill the actress and cut out her unborn baby, Ted Bundy who enjoyed killing innocent and non-suspecting people, or Henry Lee Lucas who was also a rapist, child molestor, mass murder and Cannibal. Let's say that one of them moved into the house next to yours. In your wonderful and caring community. Hell let's make it that you move into a seemingly wonderful and caring community with more than just one known rapists, murderer, burgler, abuser, or molester. Remember that they only broke the law. Now answer this question...Does it really matter what Law they broke? Does it matter that your childern will never be safe while you live there? does it matter that you won't be safe while you live there? Does it matter what religon these known felons have or what gender they are or even what language they speak? I say NO. They broke a knwon Law for thier benefit and have caused more damage than good to the communities that they lived in. Just because they were sick, or distorted, in the head didn't make a bit of difference to the families that are still suffering for it.

Religon doesn't play a part in these Illegal Alien stuff. Neither does Sex, Creed, or anything else. It is all about who did it legally and is footing thier own bills and who didn't and are having thier bills footed for them. It is about who is trying to change our Nation into the Cess pool from where they came from. It must be a cess pool because if it wasn't they would be here trying to change my life into what they want.

Here is something for the illegals. Quit threatening my fellow Americans with all these empty threats before we treat them as if they where still where they came from. Quit trying to change our nation to fit the needs of the few there are more than just illegals in this Beautiful Country. And quit trying to act like the illegals are the only ones that matter, Americans are footing the bills and the illegals are only illegally here. If they decide to continue toi walk out on everything then they can walk the F-out of our Country and never come back.