Jarhead

[hunter06]

Hey Jarhead just came out today and i was wondering what you all thought about that movie. I thought it was ok but it could of been better. But for the most part it was good.

[wannabemarine10]

I did not see the movie. I read the book and thought that Anthony swoffard was disrespectful to the Marine Corps and Marines in general. I do not plan to see the movie unless it is much different than the book.

[Smalcom]

the movie is quite a bit different... a lot of Marines enjoy the movie quite a bit... just try to see it if u want

[Kidd916]

Jarhead is by far the worst Marine movie i have ever seen in my life. It truely was a waste of money and the time i spent watching it. It only shows how one individual was un-motivaited, and did not want to be in the corps. My girlfriends dad saw it and pretty much said afterwards "watching that movie was like getting slapped in the face".

Boo on Jarhead

[awb5711]

The book was definitley better than the movie. I laughed the whole time. In my humble opinion it was a good and accurate movie. The movie was trying to show what its like when a bunch of Type A guys get bored. You will see when you get to your unit. There is a lot of stuff like that going on. You can be the most motivated Marine in the Corps but you will act like that too when you are sitting around for months on end. But I wouldnt expect any of you guys to understand that....yet!!!

[outlaw3179]

I thought the book sucked cuz Swofford all he did was whine about how he hated the Marine Corps. ..the movie though was entertaining and I enjoyed the parts when it was just talking about how the Marines hang out and kill time. I thought that was pretty accurate but eveything else ..not so much . Book sucked , Movie was ok.

[Old Marine]

The book was definitley better than the movie. I laughed the whole time. In my humble opinion it was a good and accurate movie. The movie was trying to show what its like when a bunch of Type A guys get bored. You will see when you get to your unit. There is a lot of stuff like that going on. You can be the most motivated Marine in the Corps but you will act like that too when you are sitting around for months on end. But I wouldnt expect any of you guys to understand that....yet!!!

If the movie "Jarhead" depicts the way our Marines are conducting themselves these day's, then I am very glad that I retired in 1973. During my time in the Corps a Marine knew better than to act in that manner. But I wouldnt expect you to understand that. :evilgrin:

[Focus Fate]

The book was amazing. I've read it about 4 or 5 times and re-reading it again. I loved the movie. Although the movie didn't touch on the book very much. The movie could have been a LOT better. But on its own I liked it.

You have to realise the book and the movie is not about The Corps. It's a ****ing memoir. It IS about one individual. So I don't understand all these Marines crying over how it wasn't moto. How it was a 'slap in the face'. The movie is not about the ****ing Corps! It's about Anthony ****ing Swofford. About HIS experiance, about the things HE went through while at war. If you want a movie to tickle your ****ing balls about damn Corps watch Sands Of Iwo Jimo or Gung Ho!, or some ****.

[jgorosco]

Look at this little poolee puke coming on here and being DISRESPECTFUL to us that earned the Title. Saying we are crying about this, b*tching about that, and let me tell you something; You do not even rate to speak or talk like that to any one of us on this site. We have sweated and bleed for the Corps. Maybe we don't like being put in a negative light to the civilian world in which you still live in. So be sure to mind your manners little boy before a Marine minds them for you.

[outlaw3179]

Geez cowboy ...can you keep your spurs from jingling ..calm down

[outlaw3179]

Focus I understand youve probably seen every war movie there is out there and you think you know , but you dont . So keep your mouth shut and go earn the ****** the title first before you speak about what you dont know.

[Focus Fate]

How am I disrespecting the title? My point is quite simple. It's not a movie about the Corps. It's based on a book which is a memoir. Just because he was un motivated, doesn't make the Corps look bad.

This has nothing to do with what war movies I've seen or not. My point is still that it wasn't meant to be some moto movie about the Corps. I think all of you are taking the movie out of context greatly.

[Marine84]

Focus - you'll see once you make it through (IF you make it through) - the book sucked! Anthony Swofford sucks!

And Jason - Semper Fi my friend - I'm an Ordie (6541) too! I was at H&MS 11 at El Toro back in the 80s. That's the first time I've seen ANYBODY use IYAOYAS. That's cool as hell!

[Focus Fate]

I realise Swofford wasn't the best Marine just from reading the book Marine. My point, as I've said over and over, is that non the less it is about HIS experiance there. That is why I like the book. Because it is a memoir of that time of his life. I dont like it beacuse of the content it even holds about the Marine Corps. I love the subjects he tackles in the book about his emotions. His thinking, and esspecially his writing.

Do you think I read that book and said "Wow! This is what it's really like!"

Or saw the movie and thought "Wow! Thats what the Corps is going to be like!"

Please do not play me for some fool. I think some people are taking the book and movie out of context. I seriously doubt anyone walked out of the theatre or away from the book thinking any differantly than they previously did about the Corps, however much or little they previously knew. I also fail to see how I am disrespecting anyone with the point I am trying to make here.

[outlaw3179]

No big deal Focus..in a few years youll be the next guy writing a book about how the Corps sucks, and how you were abused, and so on , and so on. and Im sure your book will suck just as bad as Anthony Swoffords. But hey ..stay motivated. Yut Yut!

[Focus Fate]

Alright. So now we're getting into the **** talking huh?

How many times do I have to ****ing voice my POINT.

I'm not here to get anyone to change thier view, just to understand mind.

Outlaw, I'm thinking of the best way to tell you to shut the **** up in a respectable manner but I am at a loss. You can say as much **** as you want. That I will be a ****ty Marine, that I wont be able to take it. But I really don't ****ing care, because I know I'll make you eat your words. My like for Swoffords work will in no way make me any less of a Marine. Just like your ignorant comments do not make you any less of a Marine.

[awb5711]

Old Marine...I don't know why expressing my opinion on a movie causes you to come after me like that. I'm sorry if I live in a different world than you did. Times have changed. "Leave it to Beaver" is no longer around. You don't know who I am or what I have done for the Corps. So I would think about that before you start judging and talking down to other Marines.

[chrisnica]

Simply put, movie is not as good as some people make it seem. I thought it was going to be great cause it's a Marine movie, but no. Extremely dissapointed with it. For me, Rules of Engagement is still my favorite.

[IczerI3]

Waiting for the DVD because I have not seen it yet...joe

[LCplLake]

Focus Fate - check it out young one - they're no longer focused on your opinion of the book, but rather how you defended your opinion. Tone down on the language, and put the attitude in check. You're right, someday you will make'em eat your words.. and trust me, its a good feeling... I know. But until that day, you just need to put your foot in your mouth and wait it out. Save all this fire for your fight for the title.

Outlaw - I cant tell if you're trying to provoke a fight, or just being sarcastic. Either way its immature, dont care if you're a Sgt or not - save the BS for another forum please... We can call eachother sh*tbags all day, but I think in a situation like this everyone just needs to drop it..

Old Marine - I'm sure in the Old Corps, everything was different. I'm sure it was harder, I'm sure you were hazed a lot. I've got a lot of respect for what you went through. But things have changed, what was acceptable 30 years ago, isnt always acceptable anymore. And what wasnt accepted back then, is possibly accepted as common behavior now. Regardless, saying you're happy you retired when you did - instead of sticking in the Corps.. thats kind of a low blow to us new Marines, dont you think? In any way, do I expect you to pay me any kind of respect.. but common courtesy would be appreciated. As I said to the Sgt, please save that kind of nonsense for another forum....

I know I stepped on some toes with this one. Personally dont care, its just the internet, its just a forum folks.. relax. All I ask that everyone looks at the POINT of my posts.. and not try to comment back at me about the fact that I'm a LCpl. We're all Marines.. so please dont try to pull the rank card on me.

-Lake

[Focus Fate]

Focus Fate - check it out young one - they're no longer focused on your opinion of the book, but rather how you defended your opinion. Tone down on the language, and put the attitude in check. You're right, someday you will make'em eat your words.. and trust me, its a good feeling... I know. But until that day, you just need to put your foot in your mouth and wait it out. Save all this fire for your fight for the title.


Will do, Lake.

[jgorosco]

Focus the point I was trying to make is that, your attitude towards some of the people that voiced their opinion was totally unacceptable. I am glad you enjoyed the book, gives you some incite into the Corps albeit in a negative light. When I was telling you to check your manners I meant that with all sincerity. Do not come on here and try and disrespect Marines when you haven't even got to boot yet. You are trying to get your opinion across just like everyone else is. And your your signature "I read books, I'll be a sh*tbird Marine" is uncalled for also. Believe me once you get in thats all you will be doing to try and get ahead. If you need any help or have any questions please feel free to ask.

Oh yeah MALS 24 ORD KMCAS to whoever asked Sorry I forgot 92-95

[Focus Fate]

Focus the point I was trying to make is that, your attitude towards some of the people that voiced their opinion was totally unacceptable. I am glad you enjoyed the book, gives you some incite into the Corps albeit in a negative light. When I was telling you to check your manners I meant that with all sincerity. Do not come on here and try and disrespect Marines when you haven't even got to boot yet. You are trying to get your opinion across just like everyone else is. And your your signature "I read books, I'll be a sh*tbird Marine" is uncalled for also. Believe me once you get in thats all you will be doing to try and get ahead. If you need any help or have any questions please feel free to ask.

Oh yeah MALS 24 ORD KMCAS to whoever asked Sorry I forgot 92-95

I completely understand. Though I didn't feel I was being disrespectful in my initial post, but re-reading it at this moment I can see how it may have been taken that way. I appologize if you felt I was directly insulting you, which wasn't the case.

[outlaw3179]

lake ..noted. errr

[ArticMonkee]

Focus Fate - check it out young one - they're no longer focused on your opinion of the book, but rather how you defended your opinion. Tone down on the language, and put the attitude in check. You're right, someday you will make'em eat your words.. and trust me, its a good feeling... I know. But until that day, you just need to put your foot in your mouth and wait it out. Save all this fire for your fight for the title.

Outlaw - I cant tell if you're trying to provoke a fight, or just being sarcastic. Either way its immature, dont care if you're a Sgt or not - save the BS for another forum please... We can call eachother sh*tbags all day, but I think in a situation like this everyone just needs to drop it..

Old Marine - I'm sure in the Old Corps, everything was different. I'm sure it was harder, I'm sure you were hazed a lot. I've got a lot of respect for what you went through. But things have changed, what was acceptable 30 years ago, isnt always acceptable anymore. And what wasnt accepted back then, is possibly accepted as common behavior now. Regardless, saying you're happy you retired when you did - instead of sticking in the Corps.. thats kind of a low blow to us new Marines, dont you think? In any way, do I expect you to pay me any kind of respect.. but common courtesy would be appreciated. As I said to the Sgt, please save that kind of nonsense for another forum....

I know I stepped on some toes with this one. Personally dont care, its just the internet, its just a forum folks.. relax. All I ask that everyone looks at the POINT of my posts.. and not try to comment back at me about the fact that I'm a LCpl. We're all Marines.. so please dont try to pull the rank card on me.

-Lake


Can't say I cared much for the film but.....I am glad someone said it.:thumbup:

[cgkades]

The movie was funny due to the fact that it did show what it's like to be a Marine and very bored. but it only gives the public one narrow view of someone who didn't like being in the Corps.

i was left with wow, now this is what everyone is going to think of me being a Marine.... great.... so thumbs down to Jarhead

[Kaziganthi]

My father and I both agree (father was in Vietnam 68-70) that the movie is just a negative light to the Corps... I mean the movie mentions up jacking off like 5 times... Ok well I work my ass off and I have learned more in the Corps so far than just how to play with my pecker... It was quite retarded to me that the book made it to movie when there wan't really anything that happened of interest... Man goes to war, man tried to get a kill, man gets ****ed out of it, hmmm... Oh and he beat his meat 7-8 times... I paid $20 to take my girl to see it, man I could've done something better with that money and time...

Anthony Swoffard, thanks for serving, ripping me out of 20 bucks to see your movie which sucked, and being played by a man that played a gay cowboy...



I-Y-A-O-Y-A-S! (6531)

[Old Marine]

I would bet that Chesty Puller has rolled over in his grave.

As far as Marine Movies, I used to think that "Heartbreak Ridge" was the worse one I had seen until this "Jarhead" thing came out. I'm sure I will forget it just as I did the Eastwood movie. Most movies they make these days are terrible.

[Old Marine]

Focus Fate - check it out young one - they're no longer focused on your opinion of the book, but rather how you defended your opinion. Tone down on the language, and put the attitude in check. You're right, someday you will make'em eat your words.. and trust me, its a good feeling... I know. But until that day, you just need to put your foot in your mouth and wait it out. Save all this fire for your fight for the title.

Outlaw - I cant tell if you're trying to provoke a fight, or just being sarcastic. Either way its immature, dont care if you're a Sgt or not - save the BS for another forum please... We can call eachother sh*tbags all day, but I think in a situation like this everyone just needs to drop it..

Old Marine - I'm sure in the Old Corps, everything was different. I'm sure it was harder, I'm sure you were hazed a lot. I've got a lot of respect for what you went through. But things have changed, what was acceptable 30 years ago, isnt always acceptable anymore. And what wasnt accepted back then, is possibly accepted as common behavior now. Regardless, saying you're happy you retired when you did - instead of sticking in the Corps.. thats kind of a low blow to us new Marines, dont you think? In any way, do I expect you to pay me any kind of respect.. but common courtesy would be appreciated. As I said to the Sgt, please save that kind of nonsense for another forum....

I know I stepped on some toes with this one. Personally dont care, its just the internet, its just a forum folks.. relax. All I ask that everyone looks at the POINT of my posts.. and not try to comment back at me about the fact that I'm a LCpl. We're all Marines.. so please dont try to pull the rank card on me.

-Lake

Maybe what went on in my Marine Corps 30 years ago is no longer accepted and maybe, just maybe, that is the problem with the Corps today. Back in the day a boot LCpl would never question a person of higher rank at any time regardless of the circumstances. You can put your common courtesy and civilian attitude where the sun doesn't shine. When you speak of hazing, what are you talking about? I was never hazed, but I was punched daily in Boot camp and when I got to Korea as a PFC, an (E-3) Corporal was god as far as I was concerned.

Maybe the Marine Corps has went to hell. I sure do hope not.

[Phantom Blooper]

Don't hold nothing back "Old Marine" Gunny Wilson! Let em' know what's on your mind. You should work for the Weather Channel. "Today's forecast young fighter is fair and partly cloudy ,so stick it where the sun don't shine!" Now back to you. :banana:


Jarhead my review:

No combat! No politics! And a naked Marine running around in a Santa hat! What kind of war movie is that?



Semper Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall :evilgrin:

[Bohica547]

What I liked about both the movie, and the book is, that it is was a slap in the face. Its takes you back to ground zero. Now, I am not a Marine, and I have the deepest respect and appreciation to all those who now, or did serve. Personally, I think the movie sends one good message. The Corp. isn't what you you see on the posters. In your career, there is a good chance that you will meet some Marines, enlisted as well as officers that will rub you the wrong way. Personally, I think Swofford is a bit of a whiner, me not being a Marine really doesn't allow me to make that judgement. I think he was looking for a little sympathy with both of these projects, its up to you if you want to feel sorry that he is mentally damaged. My childhood is similar to Swoffords, I had an absentee father, a controlling mother, and some whacked out family members, but I don't ask for your sympathy, because I don't need it. As for being a Marine, I'm pretty sure it would be a step up from what I'm doing right now.

Lastly, the message I like the best from the story, is how explains how every "Jarhead" is you, how it is a brotherhood, that when you enter, you can't really leave.

Being a current civilian this gives little if any weight to these words, but In my opinion, the book and the movie, is a relatively good balance of the negatives and positives of being a Marine.

If you have or haven't seen it, keep in mind its one man spouting off, I bet some of his squad mates would paint the series of events in a different light, and just dimiss him as a whiner.

Thank you, for allowing me my $0.02.

[Static_Sky25]

seems to me that focus knows all and is going to re-teach every Marine in the Corps... now I know FF that I prolly don't rate being so disrespectful to you. But your seriously stepping in it bud....

[Static_Sky25]

No big deal Focus..in a few years youll be the next guy writing a book about how the Corps sucks, and how you were abused, and so on , and so on. and Im sure your book will suck just as bad as Anthony Swoffords. But hey ..stay motivated. Yut Yut!
my previous post was in reply to this...

[CrazyBrave83]

Truthfully, I'll vouch for Focus here.

He's a good, motivated Poolee. Just a bit of a hothead, s'all. :D

[Static_Sky25]

I don't have a problem with motovation... hell I'm a pretty moto fella... but mouthing off and *****ing out Marines.... he's asking to have it handed to him...

[Old Marine]

Focus and Bohica:

Thirty day's of **** & punk.

[CrazyBrave83]

No no I agree, Joe...and he knows that, everything has a consequence. Just stating that he's actually a good kid, trust me on that one.

[Static_Sky25]

No no I agree, Joe...and he knows that, everything has a consequence. Just stating that he's actually a good kid, trust me on that one.
Just yet to see it personally

[CrazyBrave83]

Just yet to see it personally

Stand by, bro.

[bigdog43701]

Focus,

All I Have To Say About Your Ramblings Is, It's A Marine Thing. A True Marine Would Never, Ever Dishonor The Corps.

Death Looks At Everyone,
Marines Smile Back!

[Bohica547]

Focus and Bohica:

Thirty day's of **** & punk.

I don't know why I am being grouped with him. Iwas trying to be respectful. Oh well ain't the first time I've been spit in the face while being nice. I can't please everyone.

Post Script: After reading my post I realize I wrote things in a manner that sounded like I am an expert, and I definitely am not. I'll drop and give you all 25 for bad conduct.

[Shadowman777]

Well at least I found out what I was looking for in regards to the movie "Jarhead." I will pass on renting the DVD until it hits the "5 DVDs for 5 days for 5 nights" shelf.

I have never liked movies about Marines, because the actors who portray Marines - aren't - and can never know what it is to be a Marine, unless they have been one. "Full Metal Jacket" is an exception (at least the first half of the movie) as Gunny gave it legitimacy, and played the perfect Drill Instructor.

Just my take -

Steve

[PooleeNGN]

im just a poolee but man that movie sucked. for civies who watch this, they dont know anything about the corp but after this, they probably think badly of the corp. i mean why would someone make a movie about a Sh*tbird's point of view. and i get what old Marine was trying to say. the Corp and boot has gone soft during his days. me i persoanlly agree with him. the reason why Marines are called that is because you guys are elite, Mean, tough fighting machines. what they did back then was to make everyone earn the title and become elite, now it is just easier to do it and i guess thats what he was trying to say.

[Shadowman777]

im just a poolee but man that movie sucked. for civies who watch this, they dont know anything about the corp but after this, they probably think badly of the corp. i mean why would someone make a movie about a Sh*tbird's point of view. and i get what old Marine was trying to say. the Corp and boot has gone soft during his days. me i persoanlly agree with him. the reason why Marines are called that is because you guys are elite, Mean, tough fighting machines. what they did back then was to make everyone earn the title and become elite, now it is just easier to do it and i guess thats what he was trying to say.

I agree with much of what you write - but I disagree that boot camp has gone softer. In fact, I would submit that it is tougher now then it ever has been, evidenced by what I went through in 1979 - as compared to my son in 2002.

The Corps will always be the Corps. That will never change. What has changed is society its "me first" attitute. The "do unto others, before they do it unto you." That has been the biggest difference between Old Marine's time and now.

You see it in LCpl Lake's attitude. He doesn't know sh1t about life, is a non-rate barely out of boot camp - yet thinks he has the answers for everything, even though he is still wet behind the ears. He even has no problem mouthing off to an NCO SGT. He is a product of his generation.

Regardless, the Crops will remain the Corps.That being said, boot camp may need to be extended from 13 weeks to 16 weeks in order for more time to "readjust" civilian attitudes, but the Corps is flexible that way! Who knows - boot may be 26 weeks in 20 years. Wouldn't that be fun!!! LOL

Steve

[SmokeyBandit]

It's not a movie about the Corps.
Well then the book and the movie shouldn't have the title Jarhead.

[NYcityborn]

I agree with much of what you write - but I disagree that boot camp has gone softer. In fact, I would submit that it is tougher now then it ever has been, evidenced by what I went through in 1979 - as compared to my son in 2002.

The Corps will always be the Corps. That will never change. What has changed is society its "me first" attitute. The "do unto others, before they do it unto you." That has been the biggest difference between Old Marine's time and now.

You see it in LCpl Lake's attitude. He doesn't know sh1t about life, is a non-rate barely out of boot camp - yet thinks he has the answers for everything, even though he is still wet behind the ears. He even has no problem mouthing off to an NCO SGT. He is a product of his generation.

Regardless, the Crops will remain the Corps.That being said, boot camp may need to be extended from 13 weeks to 16 weeks in order for more time to "readjust" civilian attitudes, but the Corps is flexible that way! Who knows - boot may be 26 weeks in 20 years. Wouldn't that be fun!!! LOL

Steve
it would be more funner,because I do hear that they are saying that Marines now are getting soft like the Army,which I dont believe,but extending the weeks be cool to prove them wrong.

[Focus Fate]

Well then the book and the movie shouldn't have the title Jarhead.

Smokey did you bother to read the rest of the post I made? Because clearly you did not. It is a memoir, and yes he was in the Marines. The book is about how he feels being labeled a Jarhead is a stigma. Read between the lines, tar-tar.

[Static_Sky25]

But he's still just showin me (and everyone else) he's a punk :thumbdown

[Static_Sky25]

being a civvilian gives him LESS room to speak about it... the movie was based on a Marine therefore... the "club" gets first pull

[yellowwing]

Yes, and some civilians have a lot of heart and courage. Even some poolees have a more guts and determination than others. I saw where Focus Fate toned it down and apologized (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showpost.php?p=158274&postcount=23), that's good enough for me.

The Corps has always had a place for the high spirited and rambunctious types. I didn't care for Swafford's story worth a damn, but I do like the guts in this kid.

[Lithium]

The book was not that good in my opinion, as for the movie it was an ok Depiction of what life is like during modern war. I personally went out and bought the movie, just to see it, and like i said I thought it was ok.

[jgorosco]

Ap, I know about free speech and all, so save the political BS for someone else. And "Hey Man", I was telling him to show some respect on here which he and I have already squashed. So I advise you to try and start something with someone else cause you are barking up the wrong tree with me. Another thing, just like he can say whatever the f**k he wants to say, then SHOULDN'T I have the same rights to say whatever the F**K I want to say? Think before typing anything else idiotic

[Brooklyn]

What is IYAOYAS ?

[CrazyBrave83]

I dunno if you'll get that answer, Brooklyn.

Them ordinance Marines protect that acroynym with sheer ferocity. :D

[Marine84]

It stands for If You Ain't Ordnance You Ain't S__t. I'm Ordnance too - can you believe that? They actually let some of us females build bombs!

[Shadowman777]

It stands for If You Ain't Ordnance You Ain't S__t. I'm Ordnance too - can you believe that? They actually let some of us females build bombs!

Unless they have changed MOS codes again, you hung the ordnance right (6531)? I was Aviation Ordnance 6521 - which meant we build the stuff up, 31's hung it, and 41's were missile techs. Still the same today??

Steve

"Death from Above"

[Future-USMC-LT]

Personally, I hated the movie. To any civilian watching this, it paints the Corps in a negative light. To me, Swofford comes across as a whiner who felt like the Corps screwed him over, and then, instead of taking it like a man and pulling himself back up, he goes and whines in a book and movie.

As for the discussion about the Corps being softer, I've never experienced the Old Corps, only the New Corps, so I don't have the standing to comment on it.

[Marine84]

I was a 41 Shadowman - the day I graduated from my frist school in Millington the instructors told us "Now you can forget everything that you have been taught here" - lots of us had those dumb looks on our faces like "DAMN! We been hazed again!" but it's a good thing I did retain some of it cause I got to buildup every now and then.

[jgorosco]

6541 MCAS Kaneohe Dropping Hell from the Heavans. JunkShop and GunShop was my expertise

[Lithium]

Hey I watched the movie again and Im kind of Confused about the end where he had the opportunity to shoot the Iraqi general. He got orders to shoot the General from a Lt. Col. and was told to halt by a Major, so then he should have still shot because a Lt. Col. outranks a Major. Maybe its just me though?

As for the rest of the movie, bad acting

[Lithium]

Ohh Ohh...and the music was decent....

Dont worry Be happy
Nirvana and various others that I know the song of.

[Sgtj]

Maybe the order was changed last minute! You think your going to tell a major to f off, No! Why would the government spend $3.50 on a round, when they can drop a 1/2 million dollar bomb. Politics my friend politics!

[jryanjack]

Sgt J is correct. The major was in his chain of command and his order was lawful so Swofford did the correct thing by following the order.

[LDO Capt]

I think some of you have missed one important point, IT WAS A MOVIE. Made in Hollywood, for ENTERTAINMENT. As with ANY movie some will like it, some won't. My wife and I have diffrent opinions with just about every movie we see but we dont have fights about it.

To answer the Ordnance question the MOS is now split into two MOS's 6531's work the flight line, 6541's work build up storage and equipment repair. The 6521's merged into the 6541 field about 10 years ago. Another interesting point is that the aviation ordnance MOS's are the only MOS that celebrates their own birthday seperate from the Marine Corps birthday. :banana:

IYAOYAS

Capt G - 6502

[Lithium]

ok I understand now

[Tallboot]

The movie is unrealistic in some ways, im ready for a movie bootcamp, Battles and Realistic information and real thoughts .. i dont like movies trying to make a statement like Apocolypse now (it is a good movie though).

[Cory12231]

I love the movie myself. Made think about joining the marines. I am joining now.

[hunter06]

Cory12231,

You are joining the Marines but your favorite quote is an "Army Of One"?

[outlaw3179]

lol..hunter

[yellowwing]

Cory12231,

You are joining the Marines but your favorite quote is an "Army Of One"?
YES, that is an oversite that should be corrected upon completion of your USMC paperwork! :evilgrin:

[Brooklyn]

Cory12231,

You are joining the Marines but your favorite quote is an "Army Of One"?

HA, that's hillarious!

[Born2Kill]

I personally don't like the movie because it shows only the bad parts about the corps.

John

[VaMarine]

Hey I like that quote though.. whats wrong with an Army of one.. it just proves they are a bunch of individuals and not a team like the Marines..

[Lithium]

Hey I like that quote though.. whats wrong with an Army of one.. it just proves they are a bunch of individuals and not a team like the Marines..

Argh you beat me to the line...

[guido]

I guess to me the movie does show some truth about life waiting for that moment when you go in. but it is not about swofford it is about the Marine Corps. I the eyes of a person who has not earned the title or has even had the chance to mingle here with Marines all Marines are viewed the same as Swofford. The underlying note is that this is the Marine Corps and that ain't true. That was how one of the 10% saw it. As marines we can elate with the Swoffords' of the Corp but we know that it is not like that to all of us. and just where the hell are all the movies that show the Marine Corp in a more positive light?

I realise Swofford wasn't the best Marine just from reading the book Marine. My point, as I've said over and over, is that non the less it is about HIS experiance there. That is why I like the book. Because it is a memoir of that time of his life. I dont like it beacuse of the content it even holds about the Marine Corps. I love the subjects he tackles in the book about his emotions. His thinking, and esspecially his writing.

Do you think I read that book and said "Wow! This is what it's really like!"

Or saw the movie and thought "Wow! Thats what the Corps is going to be like!"

Please do not play me for some fool. I think some people are taking the book and movie out of context. I seriously doubt anyone walked out of the theatre or away from the book thinking any differantly than they previously did about the Corps, however much or little they previously knew. I also fail to see how I am disrespecting anyone with the point I am trying to make here.

[rktect3j]

I had a coworker ask me if I had seen this movie last week. I hadn't so over the weekend I rented it. I am sorry that I did. I served at the same exact time Swoford did. I don't recall a full platoon of retards anywhere in the Corps. Swoford didn't have one good time in the Marines. I don't know how that is possible. I think I do know who Swoford is though. There always seems to be one of them out there. The guy who is fighting it the whole way through or the one that never should have made it out of boot camp. He isn't picked on for no good reason. He is just the Pvt Pile of the bunch. Can't or won't do anything right. So outside of the scenery being on target the movie sucked and should not be allowed to infer that the Marines depicted were anything even close to actual Marines or the Corps. If you own a copy you should burn it.

[alexpw62]

The book was amazing. I've read it about 4 or 5 times and re-reading it again. I loved the movie. Although the movie didn't touch on the book very much. The movie could have been a LOT better. But on its own I liked it.

You have to realise the book and the movie is not about The Corps. It's a ****ing memoir. It IS about one individual. So I don't understand all these Marines crying over how it wasn't moto. How it was a 'slap in the face'. The movie is not about the ****ing Corps! It's about Anthony ****ing Swofford. About HIS experiance, about the things HE went through while at war. If you want a movie to tickle your ****ing balls about damn Corps watch Sands Of Iwo Jimo or Gung Ho!, or some ****.

Come on, dude. I mean, wow, how can you show that little respect when addressing Marines? I agree with your point, that this book IS a memoir, and is just one man's opinion, and should be evaluated as such; but there is a much better way to communicate that than being disrespectful. The Marines here have earned the Title AND WE HAVEN'T, we haven't earned the right to talk sh*t.

Although I don't agree with many of the points Anthony Swofford makes, I do think that Jarhead is a decent memoir, and I respect it. The movie was made by an Academy Award winning director, and I think it's an excellent movie despite the fact that I don't agree with it's anti-Corps tendencies.

[yellowwing]

Come on, dude. I mean, wow, how can you show that little respect when addressing Marines?
Focus Fate is now in Boot Camp. We shall see in 3 months what he thinks.