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thedrifter
03-05-06, 06:09 PM
Murtha: Only Iran, al-Qaida want U.S. in Iraq
Decorated former Marine says American presence ‘depleting’ resources
Reuters
Updated: 3:50 p.m. ET March 5, 2006

WASHINGTON - The U.S. presence in Iraq is hurting the worldwide war on terrorism and benefits only Iran and al Qaeda, Rep. John Murtha said Sunday.

Murtha expressed skepticism of assurances given by Gen. Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday. Pace said the war in Iraq was going “very, very well.”

“Why would I believe him?” said Murtha, D-Pa. “This administration, including the president, has mischaracterized this war for the last two years ... So why would I believe the chairman of the Joint Chiefs when he says things are going well?”

“The only people who want us in Iraq are Iran and al-Qaida,” Murtha said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” political talk show. “And I talked to a top-level commander the other day and he said China wants us there also. Why? Because we’re depleting our resources ... our troop resources and our fiscal resources.

“The war on terrorism is worldwide. In Iraq, it’s a civil war,” said Murtha.

Murtha, who in November called for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, said it was useless for the United States to advise Iraqis.

“One of the problems I see and frustrating things is our ambassador keeps giving advice to the Iraqis,” Murtha said. “Every time we give the Iraqis advice, they vote for someone else ... The Iraqis don’t pay attention to our advice.”

The U.S. role in fighting terrorism around the world is being subverted by Iraq, said Murtha, who characterized the sectarian strife between Iraq’s Sunni and Shi’ite Muslims as a civil war that must be settled internally.

Murtha, a decorated Vietnam veteran who retired from the Marines Corps Reserve as a colonel in 1990, said Iraq would do a better job of rooting out terrorists once U.S. troops leave the country.

“I’m convinced they know where they are, they know who they are,” he said. “But they won’t tell us because they’ve turned against us. We’ve lost the hearts and minds of the people.”

The United Nations is scrutinizing Iran because of its nuclear research but Murtha said Tehran has become emboldened because of the U.S. focus in Iraq.

“We have a situation where our military is in such bad shape, it couldn’t deploy to a second front,” Murtha said. “And the Iranians know this. North Korea knows it. China knows it. We’re depleting our resources in Iraq.”
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Ellie

greensideout
03-05-06, 09:22 PM
We just sent C-130 Gun Ships to Iraq. Makes me wonder why a WMD, (the Gun Ships) are needed there. Maybe expecting a run across the border by Iran?

Right or wrong, Murtha calls it as he sees it.

ferg81mm
03-06-06, 05:13 AM
wtf

the gd iranians are f n surrounded

ferg81mm
03-06-06, 05:52 PM
http://www.uark.edu/depts/globmark/middeastmap.jpg

ferg81mm
03-06-06, 05:59 PM
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,90017,00.html?ESRC=eb.nl


WASHINGTON - The Pentagon's top general acknowledged Sunday that "anything can happen" in Iraq, but he said things aren't as bad as some say. "I wouldn't put a great big smiley face on it, but I would say they're going very, very well from everything you look at."

The comments drew criticism that Gen. Peter Pace is glossing over problems in the three-year-old U.S. campaign.

"Why would I believe him?" asked Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a major critic of the Bush administration's handling of the war. "This administration, including the president, (has) mischaracterized this war for the last two years."

Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, cited political progress such as holding elections and writing a constitution as well as military progress like training Iraqi security forces.

"No matter where you look - at their military, their police, their society - things are much better this year than they were last," Pace said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Murtha, responding to Pace in an appearance on CBS' "Face the Nation," said that Iraq has 60 percent unemployment, oil production below prewar levels, and water service to only 30 percent of the population.

American troops are doing everything they can militarily but "are caught in a civil war," said Murtha, a former Marine who has called on the administration to bring U.S. troops home.

"There's two participants fighting for survival and fighting for supremacy inside that country," he said of ethnic divisions. "And that's my definition of a civil war."

Murtha added: "The rhetoric is so frustrating - when they keep making statements which are very optimistic, and then it turns out to be the opposite. ... And the public has caught on to that, and they're very pessimistic about the outcome."

Pace and Murtha spoke as Iraqis continued a stalemate over forming a new government, a delay that has prevented parliament from meeting since it was elected Dec. 15.

Pressure mounted Sunday on Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari to give up his bid for a new term amid anger over the recent surge in sectarian killings that has complicated already snarled negotiations on a new Iraqi government.

Pace said the violent firestorm that followed the bombing of a revered Shiite mosque two weeks ago had forced Iraqis to look into "that abyss" and realize "that's not where they want to go."

"Anything can happen, I agree," Pace said, then added: "I believe the Iraqi people have shown in the last week to 10 days that they do not want civil war."

Ending the insurgency depends not only on military efforts but also on whether the Iraqi government can give the people what they want, Pace said. He said the number of people in the insurgency will drop if people see that the new government can come through with jobs and services.

"If you have an opportunity to get a job and feed your family, you're much less likely to accept $100 to go plant a bomb inside a road," Pace said.

Sen. Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the U.S. must stick with the Iraqis.

"They're talking about putting their act together," Lugar, R-Ind., said on CBS. "Now, the fact is that they may or may not be successful, but we better hope that they are, because the consequences for our country and the war against terror are very fateful if they are not."

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