Head call

[Brooklyn]

1st. What's the proper Marine term for toilet? Latrine? Head?

2nd. While reading a book on Marine Boot Camp the author wrote the differences in the Marine training vs Fort Benning's infantry training ( OSUT ). He said something about at Benning the "soldiers-in-training" actually have toilets with walls and doors around them. This got me wondering. What's the ****ter like at Marine Boot Camp? Is it prisonish? Do they give us a bucket to hand on our waists? Maybe a floor with a hole in it and a couple of hoses? You catch my drift. Any incite?

[Shadowman777]

1st. What's the proper Marine term for toilet? Latrine? Head?

2nd. While reading a book on Marine Boot Camp the author wrote the differences in the Marine training vs Fort Benning's infantry training ( OSUT ). He said something about at Benning the "soldiers-in-training" actually have toilets with walls and doors around them. This got me wondering. What's the ****ter like at Marine Boot Camp? Is it prisonish? Do they give us a bucket to hand on our waists? Maybe a floor with a hole in it and a couple of hoses? You catch my drift. Any incite?

"Head" would be the word. Others references may include "the bowl" and the "reading room" but for boot camp purposes - da head!

I believe squids call it the "potty chair."

Divider only for guys. Believe me, you have so little time to crap (you grab paper as you are sitting down) that you don't care who sees what. And no one is looking as they are too busy trying to find an open stall! LOL! And yes, the Corps uses toilets.

I just thank God my last name ends with a "W!" You will understand why when you get there!

Steve

[Brooklyn]

LOL, don't tell me they make us go in alphabetical order. My name begins with a "D" so I guess if that's the case I'll get to go first shift. Can't be mad about that. Wouldn't want to be the guy that runs out of "head" paper, lmao.

I'm not really concerned with privacy, I was just curious.

I also read that the regular Army boot camp actually lets "soldiers- in-training" take showers in stalls, Sundays off, weekly phone calls, concerts, and a host of other things that made my mouth drop. Those guys got it easy!

[GySgtRet]

Although this may be TMI for some here it goes anyway. Pun inteneded. I don't really remember taking many sitting head calls. I do remember a number of recruits making emergency head calls both sitting and standing though. The drill instructor would confirm with the recruit that he had to make an emergencey head call first. Then the recruit would have to run around the squad bay with his flashlight on top of his head "gourde", "brainhousing group" till the drill instructor gave permission that the emergency was over. Then the real fun and games would begin. I think this is why I don't remember many head calls while at recruit training at Parris Island. Yes they are called headcalls.

[Shadowman777]

LOL, don't tell me they make us go in alphabetical order. My name begins with a "D" so I guess if that's the case I'll get to go first shift. Can't be mad about that. Wouldn't want to be the guy that runs out of "head" paper, lmao.

I'm not really concerned with privacy, I was just curious.

I also read that the regular Army boot camp actually lets "soldiers- in-training" take showers in stalls, Sundays off, weekly phone calls, concerts, and a host of other things that made my mouth drop. Those guys got it easy!

Marine Corps is the same way in regards to weekends off. You get to date WM's - and even private rooms for those who "get lucky!" The Corps does not supply condoms though, so make sure you bring plenty to boot camp. (If you're good looking that is)

Steve

[GySgtRet]

I also read that the regular Army boot camp actually lets "soldiers- in-training" take showers in stalls, Sundays off, weekly phone calls, concerts, and a host of other things that made my mouth drop. Those guys got it easy!

We don't talk any Army trash never was in that outfit, I can't tell you anything about. It could be true. It sounds more like the Air Force though.

[LCplLake]

I know of a boot who wasnt even taught how to drill. Instead, his DI's taught him MCMAP. Graduated as a grey belt. Moreso, I've heard rumours of the DI's not being allowed in the chow hall - cant confirm that yet, havent heard it from the horses mouth. But I know the MCMAP story is true...

-Lake

[MKocher]

We don't talk any Army trash never was in that outfit, I can't tell you anything about. It could be true. It sounds more like the Air Force though.

It was in the book "Making the Corps", he spends a little time comparing Marine Corps Boot Camp to Army Basic Training, and goes and visits the other training site.

The Army just has an entirely different philosophy when it comes to training, which is fine. It's not necessarily worse, just different.

[VaMarine]

I know for a fact the Drill Sergeants are not allowed in the Chow hall with them... and i heard a rumor of the whole stress card thing.. not sure about that but... yeah there you go..

[MKocher]

I know for a fact the Drill Sergeants are not allowed in the Chow hall with them... and i heard a rumor of the whole stress card thing.. not sure about that but... yeah there you go..

The whole stress card thing actually started with the Navy. In their training they started to hand out these cards with all of the important phone numbers and chain of command stuff that a lot of recruits were too stressed out to remember in those first couple of days. So they came to be known as "stress cards" and, some of the recruits totally misunderstood what they were and starting waving them around in the faces of the instructors. So the Navy stopped the program, and now it has been attributed to every service but the Marine Corps.

[Shadowman777]

The whole stress card thing actually started with the Navy. In their training they started to hand out these cards with all of the important phone numbers and chain of command stuff that a lot of recruits were too stressed out to remember in those first couple of days. So they came to be known as "stress cards" and, some of the recruits totally misunderstood what they were and starting waving them around in the faces of the instructors. So the Navy stopped the program, and now it has been attributed to every service but the Marine Corps.

The scuttlebutt was that a recruit was given three 5 minute "timeout" cards that could be used at any time. I could see that happening in the other three services but never the Marine Corps. And even if the Corps was "forced" to adopt such a program, I pity the poor SOB who tried to use one. His life would be a living hell for the next 13 weeks! LOL!

[Shadowman777]

Stress Cards: http://www.snopes.com/military/stress.htm

[MKocher]

For a few years during the 1990s, the <nobr>US Navy</nobr> did issue "stress cards" to new recruits, but they weren't the "Get out of jail free" coupons military lore has since turned them into. Rather, these cards listed names and phone numbers of resources the newcomers could contact "if things pile[d] up." The cards were strictly for informational purposes: they informed recruits of available support services.
Navy trainers began reporting that some of the recruits had taken to raising their cards while being disciplined, as a way of signalling for time out. It's unclear whether any of those enduring basic training really thought that was the purpose of the cards or whether this was just standard armed forces jackassing, but the Navy took no chances and got rid of the cards.

Yeah, that's what I was saying. It was just a list of phone numbers and stuff, and some stupid recruits.

[tatudgrl]

I know for a fact the Drill Sergeants are not allowed in the Chow hall with them... and i heard a rumor of the whole stress card thing.. not sure about that but... yeah there you go..
I was in boot about ten years ago, my DI's loved (sarcasticly) to eat chow with us. No such thing as a stress card when I was in.
tatudgrl

[VaMarine]

I was in boot about ten years ago, my DI's loved (sarcasticly) to eat chow with us. No such thing as a stress card when I was in.
tatudgrl


If you went to boot then we wouldnt be speaking about your time in.. But if you are talking about Basic Training in the Army... well that might be a different story then...

Stress cards i stand corrected.. but i said thats what i had heards..

[MKocher]

If you went to boot then we wouldnt be speaking about your time in.. But if you are talking about Basic Training in the Army... well that might be a different story then...

Stress cards i stand corrected.. but i said thats what i had heards..

I figure the stress card story has the same source as the one that consistently pops up about Field Radio Ops having a life expectancy of 12 seconds in the battlefield. :rambo:

[VaMarine]

Was it 12 seconds in the battlefield or 12 seconds in combat... If you read One Bullet Away during the ambush they drove into.. the guy that had to leave the platoon was their radio man.. But some things i just take with a grain of salt.. others you have to believe till you are told otherwise..

[Shadowman777]

If you went to boot then we wouldnt be speaking about your time in.. But if you are talking about Basic Training in the Army... well that might be a different story then...

Stress cards i stand corrected.. but i said thats what i had heards..

I think we all were taken in by the supposed stess card thing.

BTW - killer signature pic VA. Very well done.

Steve

[outlaw3179]

12 seconds for Radio Op...in SOI we were told machine gunners had an 8 second life expectancy ..lol...So I think every MOS hypes up how badazz they are.

[Shadowman777]

12 seconds for Radio Op...in SOI we were told machine gunners had an 8 second life expectancy ..lol...So I think every MOS hypes up how badazz they are.

True, true.

My son is in Airframes, and currently with VMFA-232 - the "Red Devils." I think his life expectancy is like 80 years. I was in Aviation Ordnance. I believe my life expectancy was 75 years???

[MKocher]

My reserve unit is a recon unit and I'm going to be a Field Radio Op. This does not bode well for me :/

;)

[Shadowman777]

My reserve unit is a recon unit and I'm going to be a Field Radio Op. This does not bode well for me :/

;)

LOL - check out this thread - it has gone from "Head calls" to "life expectancy." I will take upon myself to right this ship!

Question: "What is the life expectancy of a boot recruit who spends too much time on the head?"

[MKocher]

Question: "What is the life expectancy of a boot recruit who spends too much time on the head?"

I will answer this question with another question:

"How long does it take the average recruit to drown after being shoved into the toilet by an irate DI?"

[VaMarine]

I will answer this question with another question:

"How long does it take the average recruit to drown after being shoved into the toilet by an irate DI?"


To answer both the questions life expectancy of a recruit that spends too much time on the head? Unlimited because there is no recruit that is that stupid.. plus if so when the Drill Instructor comes in screaming.. what ever he was trying to push out will expel itself in an instant..

How long does it take a recruit to drown depends on whether he has be WSQed yet.. If he has then the recruit will not drown because he is one with the water and knows that he can continue to survive as long as he does not ingest his bowel movement that suddenly released when the drill instructor entered the Head

If the recruit has not been WSQ'ed approximately 20 mins.. You can breath in water.. and survive for a while before you officially drown...

[Brooklyn]

Yea, but how much wood could a recruit chuck if a recruit could chuck wood?

[VaMarine]

As much as it took to make the Drill Instructor Tired.

[VaMarine]

Thought of a couple more answers for you..

One the Recruit knows better than to drown with out requesting permission from the Drill instructor and so for wont drown for fear of doing squats thrusts till he dies again..

Again.. The recruit also knows that he doesnt want to **** off the scribe who would have to fill out all the paper work over his death and doesnt want to be stand fire watch every other hour for the rest of his life..

[outlaw3179]

Why is the sky blue?

[Kaziganthi]

Yeah... You will learn to be able to dump very swiftly... About 120 seconds from time you run in to the time you run out... Talk about "gone in 60 seconds..."

The Drill Instructors do eat in the chow hall... While you are ourside waiting to get inside... So they get to hover over you while you eat yer few morsels

[Kaziganthi]

Oooohh I hate scribes... Especially "tainted ones"... Taking bribes for somehow overlooking someone next in line for fire watch... Mine got caught and he served some pretty messed up posts for the most part of 3rd phase...

[VaMarine]

We were talking about Drill Sergeants not Drill Instructors when it came to they cant be in the chow hall with you.. In the Army they are marched to the Chow hall by the guide and then marched back by the guide or a troop handler but not a Drill Sergeant..

I knew of some tainted scribes, at one point for telling the Guide where to stick it i got 4 days of fire watch 1 hour on 1 hour off.. It ****ed him off more that after serving it.. I still told him where he could stick it...

[lprkn]

I know for a fact the Drill Sergeants are not allowed in the Chow hall with them... and i heard a rumor of the whole stress card thing.. not sure about that but... yeah there you go..

When I was at Fort Sill for my MOS training (0811), we used the same chow hall as the doggies. And yes, their drill sergeants were allowed in the chow hall with them. Maybe it's a Fort Sill thing, that place is messed up anyways.

They even got ice cream whenever they wanted!