How do you get Back in

[devildog817]

good evening devildogs im a young pup who got a Medical Dicharged very early in my carreer i heard rumors that i can get back in and i heard rumors that im SOL i was rated 30% by the va and i just wondering is it possible to get back in oh yah im on the tdrl list and re code in 3p thanks Semper fi

[Static_Sky25]

Made me look at my DD-214 my code is RE-3F anyone tell me what my chances are?

[jinelson]

The best thing to do is speak to a recruiter and bring your DD-214 he will most likely get you in touch with a prior service recruiter. From what I have heard and read many are waivable and can also be upgraded through the complaint process. Here's a link that may help you;

http://www.ig.navy.mil/Complaints%20%20(Reenlistment%20Codes).htm

[outlaw3179]

Hey Jinelson...thanks for that link...i pulled my 214 out again also...thinking about getting back in also..really really helpful.

[Ed Palmer]

What are Reenlistment Codes?

These codes are entered on military discharge documents and characterize a Navy/Marine Corps member's future eligibility to enlist or reenlist after discharge or separation from the military service.

RE-1- Eligible for reenlistment.

RE-1A- Eligible for reenlistment.

RE-2- Ineligible for reenlistment. Recommended for reenlistment but ineligible because of status: Fleet Reservist Retired (except for transfer to TDRL), Commissioned Officer. Warrant 0fficer, Midshipman, Cadet.

RE-3A- Failure to meet area aptitude prerequisites. Fully qualified for enlistment, provided mental criteria of table 2-1 are met. Alien.

RE-3B- Restricted assignment. Parenthood. Pregnancy.

RE-3C- Reenlistment authorized by CMC only. Ineligible for enlistment, unless waiver is granted. Conscientious Objector.

RE-3D- Failure to meet disciplinary standards. Ineligible for enlistment, unless waiver is granted. Demonstrated dependency or hardship not meeting criteria specified in BUPERSMAN Article C-10308.

RE-3E- Failure to meet education prerequisites. Fully qualified for enlistment provided education criteria is met. Erroneous induction.

RE-3F- Erroneous enlistment.

RE-3G- Condition (not physical disability) interfering with performance of duty.

RE-3H- Hardship

RE-3K- Disenrolled from Naval Academy, not considered qualified for enlisted status.

RE-3M- Marriage.

RE-3N- Importance to national health, safety or interest.

RE-3P- Physical disability (includes discharge and transfer to TDRL). Obesity. Motion sickness. Disqualified for officer candidate training.

RE-3R- Rank reappointment restriction. Ineligible for reenlist unless waivered

RE-3R- Professional growth criteria. Ineligible for reenlist unless waivered

RE-3S- Sole surviving son.

RE-3T- Overweight

RE-3U- Minority

RE-4- Not recommended for reenlistment


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Are Administrative Separation Codes and Reenlistment Codes the same?





No. Administrative Separation Codes are used to represent the reason the service member is leaving the military service, i.e., 213, Discharge for retirement as an officer. For more information about discharge or separation from Naval service, see Administrative Separations, on this website.



The reenlistment codes represent an enlisted member's ability to return to military service, i.e., RE-1, fully qualified for reenlistment versus RE-4, ineligible for reenlistment.




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How do I change a reenlistment code?

You must first submit your request to change a reenlistment code to BUPERS (PERS-254).

Following a response from BUPERS and depending on how long you have been discharged from the Naval service, submit a request to change the RE code by writing to the Board for Correction of Naval Records.

More about BCNR on this website.

[Osotogary]

I'm 60 and willing. I've got a real quick first step and I don't need a whole lot to sustain (1 six pack and some BBQ'd ribs). I don't know if that's good enought to get into any service but I'm game.
Good luck Devildog and anyone else who wants to contribute. Go for it.

[bigdog43701]

just give me orders for iraq and i'll even provide my own 782 gear and m-16s (have two).

[CAS3]

For a medical discharge, you would need to get a waiver that states your disability will not effect your ability to maintain PFT scores or you are fit for duty. Also, if you had recieved seperation pay you can never re enlist.

[VaMarine]

As well the 3F will most likely not let you re-enlist either due to it basically meaning you lied on your previous enlistment.. .

[jryanjack]

What's the difference between a RE-1 and RE-1A?

[VaMarine]

from my understanding.. nothing...

[beowulf77]

I was honorably discharged in 2000 with a RE-3C. One week after receiving the RE-3C, they mailed a NAM to my mom's house for my work as the Battalion Safety NCO. The stated reason for my sh**ty re-code was getting 3 NJPs (2 battalion level) during the first 13 months of my enlistment. I got busted down but still managed to pick up E-4 before I was discharged. I ran a 1st class PFT, always qualified at the range, and won a NAM. However, I still got hit for getting into trouble during the initial part of my enlistment. I want to reenlist (I was turned down from being an officer earlier this year b/c of my re-code) but I have to finish up this last year of law school. I'm still in great shape physically but will turn 30 in Feb 07 right before I graduate law school. What are the chances of me going back in enlisted?

[champrt78]

Is there any hope for an RE-4

[champrt78]

Hello everyone, hopefully someone here can gimme an answer.
I am still in fr now but will be hiting my EAS on July 8th im gonna get an honorably but with an RE-4. I was in a jet ski accident where my best friend died, we were both marines both drunk, it was an accident, I was charged with Misdemeanor invoulantary manslaughter without gross negligence and recieved 3yrs probation from California and NJP for DUi by the Corps, is there anything I can do to get back in, to any service? I am a 4.6/4.7 Marine ither than this no other trouble at all , I heard that the Army National Gaurd is will grant a waiver? I just want to stay in i already missed my 2nd tour in i raq I just wanna get back over there and re-join the fight.

[beowulf77]

Hello everyone, hopefully someone here can gimme an answer.
I am still in fr now but will be hiting my EAS on July 8th im gonna get an honorably but with an RE-4. I was in a jet ski accident where my best friend died, we were both marines both drunk, it was an accident, I was charged with Misdemeanor invoulantary manslaughter without gross negligence and recieved 3yrs probation from California and NJP for DUi by the Corps, is there anything I can do to get back in, to any service? I am a 4.6/4.7 Marine ither than this no other trouble at all , I heard that the Army National Gaurd is will grant a waiver? I just want to stay in i already missed my 2nd tour in i raq I just wanna get back over there and re-join the fight.

From my understaning, unless you can get it upgraded, a '4' is an absolute death sentence to any re-enlistment possiblities...like I said UNLESS you can get it upgraded. It will be hard enough for me to get around my '3' but a '4' is next to impossible. My advice, and what I would have done had I known how important it was at the time was FIGHT the RE-Code tooth and nail...don't sign anything consenting to it. If your service is honorable then you have some leverage...don't give in.

[CAS3]

You need a waiver from the COmmandant himself.

Best of Luck!

[OLE SARG]

God, I saw the title of "How do you get Back in" for this thread and thought ms murtha was trying to get back in our Beloved Corps HA HA HA!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[rproctor922]

Question

My 214 shows a RE Code of 3, nothing else. My seperation code was JHJ, how hard would it be for me to get into the Marines?

[SSgt Quinn]

SSgt Quinn here. New to the Recruiting Field, not a volunteer to the billet. Will do whatever I can to help in my early stage (because you are also helping me to learn by looking into your individual cases.)
Ok, here's the gouge from a Recruiter's perspective on RE codes:
If you don't have an RE code of 1+ change, there's definitely an issue.

I had my first RE-3F contact today, as a matter of fact. Did what I could, but cannot touch him until he hits 2 yrs (following date of discharge). No, he wasn't a fraud-enlist.

Gotta tell ya'll, what really gets to me is the fact that anyone who is completely qualified for enlistment is a smartass punk & believes they are going to go to :flag: college for 200 years & become a trillionaire immediately after graduation (stupid phukn idiots). Those that have some quirks in their history & are either PDQ'd or temp DQ'd & are begging to come in & for me to help them. SH*T guys! Don't make me the bad guy. My job is to qualify you for MC service - IF U R QUALIFIED, & I will do what I can to help you qualify. It not only helps you, but it helps me too. But if there is some issue/reason that you are not qualified (initial or reenlistment), don't try to dodge the bullet. Take responsibility for your own actions. What I can do is to respond to posts here. If anyone is in my area (NH), send me your email & I will do whatever I can to help. No whining if you don't like my response, tho!

[OneOfTheFew77]

1st I wanna say that I have spent the last 4 hrs surfing the net trying to get an understanding of the reenlistment process before I go the the recruiting office. My situation I thought was a lil different, but after reading hundreds of threads on many forums, I was surprised to see how common it was.

I joined in '96, finished boot and was honorably discarged after 9 months total service. On my DD214, the sep code is HFX1 and RE-3P reentry code. I have learned alot about these codes and what they mean as far as my possible reenlistment but one question i have not had answered is...

How long of a break in service requires you to do boot camp again?

Believe it or not... I WANT to go trough boot again. It's been more than 10 yrs. and feel I would need to. For myself as a Marine and for those I might serve beside.

If anyone can shed some light on this subject for me it would be greatly appreciated.

Semper fi

[Chumley]

What's the difference between a RE-1 and RE-1A?

SSgt Quinn,

Same question from me, mine's purely outta curiosity....RE-1 and RE1A - what's the difference?

Thanks for your time!
SFi
C

[sgtmama]

Just out of curiousity how many waivers has the Commandant actually signed? What if the person had a good RE code and honorable discharge, but had been NJP'd for a pop? They are not allowed to ever reenlist in the Corps, any idea of the chances of a waiver getting signed?

[SgtChase]

Hey Marines, new to this site but glad to be here. I know there have probably been several threads on this same subject but since this is the latest one I figured I'd post here.

I spent 8 years in the Corps and got out in 2006 with a reenlistment code of RE-1A. I was a 4066 (yes, a pogue) at first and then lat moved to the new 0689 (super pogue) MOS after I picked up Sgt. Being a data Marine, I got out; thinking the grass was greener on the other side. And yes, I did get a well paying job, house, wife, kid...you know the drill.

But the itch to put the uniform back has never left. Working on an Army "post" makes me want to rejoin all the more. Me and the wife have been discussing it for a while and now she's cool with me re-upping. I've talked to the local recruiter here and also one of my buds from Oki who is a recruiter now.

My biggest concern now is my date of rank. One guy told me I may be able to keep it and the other said I'd drop to 0. What determines this? I spent 4 years as a Sgt and to lose the time would suck...particularly for being out less then two years. Any recruiters or Marines who've "been there, done that" out there to answer this? Thanks and Semper Fi.

:flag:
Sgt Chasteen

[outlaw3179]

My buddy just joined again , got out in 06 from the recruiting field , and reenlisted as a motor t guy. Got to keep his rank but lost all his time in grade. Was a Sgt. , I know it sucks, but man at least youll get to put on your uniform again a be able to call yourself a United States Marine. Semper Fi man , I say go for it!

Also once he got out of the national Guard it probably took almost 4 or 5 months for all the paperwork to come back and reenlist.

[SgtChase]

Outlaw,

Yeah...I'm figuring on losing it. Oh well, best case senerio i'll put in another year as Sgt and get selected for Staff. Gonna hit up the recruiter in town here again and see if he has anymore info. He said he'd talk to some of his people and maybe my monitor for more specific MOS info. He did tell me that coming back under BSSRB may take a month or two. Probably gonna do it regardless. Just a matter of logistics at this point.

[Wiggles]

Goos luck, I am trying to go back in myself. what about cutting score, does that stay the same?

[Deich0686]

I guess I have a different version of the same story. I shipped out to MCRDSD June 2006 and was sent home in Mid to late July 2006 due to "erroneous enlistment". My shoulder was separated during a IPT session where it tended to have "chronic dislocations" when it was lifted above my neck. I returned home to have serious shoulder surgery to repair it. Since then I re-enrolled in college, shuffled around a bit, and was recently hitched (less than a month). My wife knows my past incredibly well and in fact we only meant by what we see as "God's intervention". Had I graduated boot camp and went to my MOS I would have never meant her in the way we did. We both attribute my injury as a sign of us to be together; however I attribute my near obsession of the Marine Corps history, The Iraq and Afghanistan war, and my undying thoughts of the Corps as a reason to try again. With a little over 80 college credits at a 2.5 GPA (struggling) I still wonder about re-joining every day. She knows when I am struggling with the thoughts of re-joining; I tend to get a bit depressed and quiet when I am thinking of the my time in the Boot; every time I bring it up in conversation she simply becomes shy (out of character) and does not want to talk about it. I tend to back off and let a dead horse lie. This happens two or three times a month since we have been dating, engaged and even married now (over 16 months all together). Recently though I approached the idea with more fervor; There are a few things I love in my life, my wife, my dog, and the Corps. I tend to get a lot of crap since I was only in boot for such a short time; and sometimes I think I deserve it but it is still a undying love. She has given in to exploring the possibility of re-joining, but now is the question of whether I can or not. My re-enlistment code was given before they knew the true extent of my injury. The injury left me lacking "15-20%" or feeling in my right hand, and I lost 2 to 3 inches of mobility in moving my arm behind my back. And even though I am in the worst shape of my life I can still do pull-ups, push-ups, and run 2 miles without it dislocating. Occasionally it hurts, but I am more than capable of pushing through it and doing what needs to be done. I was taken in last semester to such an extent that I skipped a class and walked into a recruiters office with all my DD-214 and recent medical documents. He said it would take no time getting back in and to come back in the month before I wanted to leave. Having gone through the procedures before about getting the first time, because of my ACL surgery, I know this is not true. I walked in the recruiter’s office November 2005 and finally got in May 2006 and shipped in June... because of my medical history (No medical waiver though...). My recruiters were awesome though, Gunny Sgt. Kelley and Gunny Sgt. Polanski fought hell and high water to get me in, and they did.

I am 21 now; full-time student, married, and work part-time. I should graduate in a year and half but currently don't have the desire to apply to OCS, rather I want to be active duty enlisted. With a bit over 80 credit hours of college (at Taylor University and Indiana University) Would I be able to any Automatic Promotions over E-2, I do know the Navy Gives E-3 for 70+hours but am not for sure about the Marines, I toyed with the idea of the Navy as a Corpsman, or the Army as infantry; but nothing would do except for the Marines.

Also, for the Marine Wives; what would you suggest? I know this will be hard being recently married and one partner leaving for 5 to 6 months for training. But would you have tips for my wife and I?


For anyone else that has suggestions I am open to all ears. My desire to become a Marine is unwavering, and I am more than willing to fight to get back in. If you have past experience similar to the situation I am in I would be honored to hear of how you got through it. I feel if I don't join now I will have this regret for a long time.


-Deich

[Camper51]

Deich,

Talk to a RECRUITER. ONLY a recruiter on ACTIVE DUTY can answer your questions with any authority...

[jeff0311]

Guys I need help!!!

I got out of the Marine Corps in July 07 with an RE-3C (emergency leave then changed to HUMS status)

How can I get back in????????

[Phantom Blooper]

RE-3C- Reenlistment authorized by CMC only. Ineligible for enlistment, unless waiver is granted. Conscientious Objector.You need to see a prior service recruiter.

What is HUMS status?:evilgrin:

[jeff0311]

humanitarian ..kinda like getting transferred due to family problems

[fjmas1976]

I was discharged in 1999 with an Honorable Discharge due to a medical issue (NO NJP'S,PROBLEMS, OR DISCIPLINARY ISSUES OF ANY KIND). The medical issue is no longer present and I was recently told it might be possible to re-enlist in the Reserves. Upon speaking with a Prior Service Recruiter, I was informed that my reenlistment code was an RE-3C. I was never aware of what an RE code was and what it signified until now.

I am starting the process of trying to get the RE code changed. Has anyone here gone through this either with Headquarters Marine Corps or the Board of Naval Record Corrections? What is the success rate usually on a case like this? Any idea on a time frame? Any help or advice is much appreciated.

[VaMarine]

I got my 3C changed thru HQMC with out a problem.. Literally called and submitted a faxed letter stating the humanitarian situation had resolved itself.. and that was it.. With medical I would assume that it is a little more difficult to change but should be the same basically provide proof that the problem is resolved and that should rectify the situation,...

In addition you can join the National Guard and some other branches with a 3c as long as the character statement on the 214 says that you completed your contract or something along those line...

Semper Fi
Jon Hays
2LT SC VaANG
USMC 1998-2005

[fjmas1976]

In addition you can join the National Guard and some other branches with a 3c as long as the character statement on the 214 says that you completed your contract or something along those lines

I could never do that. No offense to the other branches and the National Guard. All my fellow Jarhead buddies I work with would NEVER forgive me.....lol.

[bear03]

good evening devildogs im a young pup who got a Medical Dicharged very early in my carreer i heard rumors that i can get back in and i heard rumors that im SOL i was rated 30% by the va and i just wondering is it possible to get back in oh yah im on the tdrl list and re code in 3p thanks Semper fi

Delvildog817, I had an RE3P, had service connected dis with VA at 0%. I reinlisted after 911,The navy docs said they were not satisfied my condition would not be made worst and said no. Well at the time I just wanted back in the service so I hit the Army, not my corps but As A New Yorker I wanted in. I was set and back in sevice and due to that anger I went from mobile at 0% to pain management and at the door of 50%.
Now You can reinlist only if medicaly cleared, you will be requiered to pay back every penny you recieved from the VA. So depending on how long you have been collecting your 30% from the VA you may want to reevaluate the whole thing and make sure that your condition is compleatly squared away.
Good luck and Semper Fi :usmc:

[slimmy07]

Devil, Im a former USMC recruiter(2004-2007) and If you have been getting 30% disability pay, you would have to pay it all back prior to joining again. Just go see your local Recruiter, ANY recruiter, it does NOT have to be a prior service recruiter. Semper Fi

Sgt. S

[fjmas1976]

Since posting my last, I was talking to a buddy of mine who is in the Army National Guard. I told him about my issues with my RE-3C and he suggested I join the National Guard, do one year on a "trial" program they have, get out with a better RE code, and head back to the Corps.

I can't believe I am actually thinking of this, but if it will eventually bring me back in the Corps it would be worth it. My question is.....has anyone heard of doing something along these lines or know anyone who has spent some time in another branch after the Corps? I don't know if I could bring myself to join another branch........any help/info/advice is MUCH appreciated.

[slimmy07]

Since posting my last, I was talking to a buddy of mine who is in the Army National Guard. I told him about my issues with my RE-3C and he suggested I join the National Guard, do one year on a "trial" program they have, get out with a better RE code, and head back to the Corps.

I can't believe I am actually thinking of this, but if it will eventually bring me back in the Corps it would be worth it. My question is.....has anyone heard of doing something along these lines or know anyone who has spent some time in another branch after the Corps? I don't know if I could bring myself to join another branch........any help/info/advice is MUCH appreciated.


I have heard of this before. It is a long process because you do have to join the guard for one year then get the release from the irr after, then join the Corps again. It can be done, but its a very long process. I knew of someone that did this, but he ended up staying in the guard because he was getting promoted very fast.

[getts8329]

Has anyone here with a disability rating gone back in and paid the VA back?

[Sgt Petzold]

Goos luck, I am trying to go back in myself. what about cutting score, does that stay the same?


you don't rate a cutting score killer... you're a Sgt... you get FitReps.

[Sgt Petzold]

Devil, Im a former USMC recruiter(2004-2007) and If you have been getting 30% disability pay, you would have to pay it all back prior to joining again. Just go see your local Recruiter, ANY recruiter, it does NOT have to be a prior service recruiter. Semper Fi

Sgt. S


I've never heard of this, and I'm disabled... you don't pay it back you just stop getting it.

they don't count the time you were out as time in service and you were a veteran so you rate that pay... I'll call my VA rep and verify this but I think you are talking craziness.

otherwise I'd have to pay close to 40,000 to get back in... yeah right.

[bear03]

I've never heard of this, and I'm disabled... you don't pay it back you just stop getting it.

they don't count the time you were out as time in service and you were a veteran so you rate that pay... I'll call my VA rep and verify this but I think you are talking craziness.

otherwise I'd have to pay close to 40,000 to get back in... yeah right.

I can tell you I have gone through this after 9-11. The only reason I didn't have to pay back anything is because I was rated service connect @ 0 % so I had collected nothing to pay back. That came from both the staff NCOIC of the recruting center and my veterans rep when I had ck'ed to verify the information I was given.
So unless something has changed since then, and a recruter that ended his tour as a recruter in 07 rules changed since then. Crazyness you may think, But you can try to go back and hope you dont have to pay it back.

[slimmy07]

I've never heard of this, and I'm disabled... you don't pay it back you just stop getting it.

they don't count the time you were out as time in service and you were a veteran so you rate that pay... I'll call my VA rep and verify this but I think you are talking craziness.

otherwise I'd have to pay close to 40,000 to get back in... yeah right.


Trust me, I was on recruiting duty for 3 years (2004-2007) so I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA AND EXPERIENCE ABOUT WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. I actually tried to put some former Marine back in who had 30% disability and the word that came back down was, that they had to pay back all their disability pay. One former Marine that wanted to get back in was going to have to pay OVER 45,000 to get back in. He chose not to join.

[fjmas1976]

Trust me, I was on recruiting duty for 3 years (2004-2007) so I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA AND EXPERIENCE ABOUT WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. I actually tried to put some former Marine back in who had 30% disability and the word that came back down was, that they had to pay back all their disability pay. One former Marine that wanted to get back in was going to have to pay OVER 45,000 to get back in. He chose not to join.
Does this apply to both Active Duty and Reserves? That's a big chunk of change to throw down.:flag:

[slimmy07]

Does this apply to both Active Duty and Reserves? That's a big chunk of change to throw down.:flag:

Are you asking if I put in both active and reserve? If so yes. If your asking if its the same for both active and reserve...well yes. They are both the Marine Corps. You still have to go through the same MEPS process. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTIVE AND RESERVE, EXCEPT ONE IS PART TIME AND ONE IS FULL TIME. What Im trying to say is they are both MARINES.

[fjmas1976]

:usmc:Roger that......I wasn't sure if it would be different. Thank you for clearing up my confusion. Semper Fi:usmc:

[fjmas1976]

I sent away for my SRB to NPRC in St. Louis so I can send it in with my DD149........TAKING FOREVER TO ARRIVE:evilgrin:. I was told that if I send my SRB along with the DD149 it will expedite the process. I am also interested to see why I got the RE-3C due to the fact that I never had NJP, Court Martial, or ANY disciplinary issues.

Would an RE-3C be given for an Honorable Discharge due to a medical issue?

[Sgt Petzold]

Are you asking if I put in both active and reserve? If so yes. If your asking if its the same for both active and reserve...well yes. They are both the Marine Corps. You still have to go through the same MEPS process. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTIVE AND RESERVE, EXCEPT ONE IS PART TIME AND ONE IS FULL TIME. What Im trying to say is they are both MARINES.


you completely misunderstood his question.... is that the same rule (paying off your benifits from the VA) to getting back in.

I thought it was rather clear and straight forward. No harm meant by this, just trying to get his answer cleared up.

[fjmas1976]

you completely misunderstood his question.... is that the same rule (paying off your benifits from the VA) to getting back in.

I thought it was rather clear and straight forward. No harm meant by this, just trying to get his answer cleared up.
That's exactly what my question was.....I should have been a little clearer and worded it different. I wasn't trying to say a Reservist isn't a Marine or anything along those lines.:iwo:

[Sgt Petzold]

... are you quoting my response because you're talking to me or that my response was what you meant to ask?

[slimmy07]

I thought I answered it. Yes, it is the same. why would it be different?

[Sgt Petzold]

so you're saying someone wanting to get back in even to the reserves has to pay the money back?

does this only apply to people who fall off contract?

[slimmy07]

so you're saying someone wanting to get back in even to the reserves has to pay the money back?

does this only apply to people who fall off contract?


Yes it does SSGT. I dont know what you mean by fall off contract though?

[Sgt Petzold]

You have to be ****ting me.... you're a recruiter? I have to take the fact that you don't know that term to put you under suspicion.

Besides.... I'm living proof that what you've said doesn't apply (Now anyways). I have just talked to my local recruiters about your claims and they, to include a GySgt, think the source (I didn't give them the location of the info) doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

They said you need a letter from a doctor stating that you are 100% capable of being a Marine and your injuries will not flare up or prevent that in the future.

I would give my recruiters contact information to anyone who PM's me if you'd like to ask them yourselves since I am not lying and want to give assurances to prove that.

[oldtop]

I think someone is confusing apples and oranges here... You do not have to pay back any VA disability that you received if you return to active service, unless the VA fails to stop your benefits on time. Any VA benefits that you receive after returning to active service must be repaid, you cannot collect AD pay and VA benefits at the same time. If you were paid seperation pay when you were discharged, you may possibly be required to repay that back if you return to AD, (not positive about that, but seems reasonable since you must repay it anyway before receiving VA money) if the seps pay has not already been recouped by the VA. I know a number of veterans that have voluntairly returned to AD to play a part in the GWOT and none has been required to repay VA Disability before returning to AD, only requirement was to be accepted for AD, and stop the VA money as of the date of return to AD.

[Sgt Petzold]

OohRah Top.

[slimmy07]

You have to be ****ting me.... you're a recruiter? I have to take the fact that you don't know that term to put you under suspicion.

Besides.... I'm living proof that what you've said doesn't apply (Now anyways). I have just talked to my local recruiters about your claims and they, to include a GySgt, think the source (I didn't give them the location of the info) doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

They said you need a letter from a doctor stating that you are 100% capable of being a Marine and your injuries will not flare up or prevent that in the future.

I would give my recruiters contact information to anyone who PM's me if you'd like to ask them yourselves since I am not lying and want to give assurances to prove that.

ARE you SERIOUSLY questioning that I have NEVER been on the Duty??? If so, with all do respect.. three words, Screw You SSGT. I almost LOST my marriage because of recruiting duty. 80 hour weeks, stress and pressure of making mission. Getting up at 4am to take an applicant to MEPS only to work till 2100 because I cant set 3 appointments for the day. I HAVE BEEN ON THE DUTY! What special duty have you done SSGT??? Recruiting duty is the TOUGHEST job in the Corps other than being involved in a fire fight. Also, my sources were one..BEING AN 8411, and two my NCOIC at the time which was a MSGT, who is now an RI and a Master Guns. You probably have NO idea what an RI is, well its a recruiter instructor. Also, SSGT I was NOT worried about lame terms like fall off contract. The TWO words I worried about was appointments and contracts, which you have NO idea what that work involves or how TOUGH it is. This is a sore subject with me SSGt because I almost lost my marriage to this duty. If you think my info is false, then so be it. Im just going off my EXPERIENCE and my former NCOIC which was a MASTER SERGEANT at the time. Things as I know from EXPERIENCE do change on the duty. I was an 8411 from 2004-2007, so it could have changed, but to question me ever being a recruiter...YOU DONT KNOW ME!

[Sgt Petzold]

ARE you SERIOUSLY questioning that I have NEVER been on the Duty??? If so, with all do respect.. two words, Screw You SSGT. I almost LOST my marriage because of recruiting duty. 80 hour weeks, stress and pressure of making mission. Getting up at 4am to take an applicant to MEPS only to work till 2100 because I cant set 3 appointments for the day. I HAVE BEEN ON THE DUTY! What special duty have you done SSGT??? Recruiting duty is the TOUGHEST job in the Corps other than being involved in a fire fight. Also, my sources were one..BEING AN 8411, and two my NCOIC at the time which was a MSGT, who is now an RI and a Master Guns. You probably have NO idea what an RI is, well its a recruiter instructor. Also, SSGT I was NOT worried about lame terms like fall off contract. The TWO words I worried about was appointments and contracts, which you have NO idea what that work involves or how TOUGH it is. This is a sore subject with me SSGt because I almost lost my marriage to this duty. If you think my info is false, then so be it. Im just going off my EXPERIENCE and my former NCOIC which was a MASTER SERGEANT at the time. Things as I know from EXPERIENCE do change on the duty. I was an 8411 from 2004-2007, so it could have changed, but to question me ever being a recruiter...YOU DONT KNOW ME!


do you think you're Ricky Bobby?! I can judge a person by the comments they make just like any other person on this site! I could really care less about who your SNCOIC was or who he has become. Falling off contract is a term used very often in the Marine Corps both in Recruiting and Career Planing fields. It astounds me that you would respond to such a minor offense of putting you under "suspicion"... this does not imply you were not there or went to school. I can see why your Master Sergeant rode you so hard... your attitude is something to be desired, and I can guess that it didn't attract too many potential recruits.

And on another note I am leaning harder towards you being a bad recruiter now than being a poser recruiter. Good day.:usmc:

[slimmy07]

do you think you're Ricky Bobby?! I can judge a person by the comments they make just like any other person on this site! I could really care less about who your SNCOIC was or who he has become. Falling off contract is a term used very often in the Marine Corps both in Recruiting and Career Planing fields. It astounds me that you would respond to such a minor offense of putting you under "suspicion"... this does not imply you were not there or went to school. I can see why your Master Sergeant rode you so hard... your attitude is something to be desired, and I can guess that it didn't attract too many potential recruits.

And on another note I am leaning harder towards you being a bad recruiter now than being a poser recruiter. Good day.:usmc:


Call you it what you want, but I did complete the duty. And FYI.. The NCOICs RIDE EVRYBODY. I was actually a pretty good recruiter. I was not great, but I did write contracts and IM proud to say that I still keep in touch with most of the Marines I put in.The funny things is, all 3 of the NCOICs that I had on the duty said that the reason I wrote contracts was my attitude. Also, I have never heard of "falling off contract" That means NOTHING to me, and I could care less about that word.Contracts, appointments, interviews meant something to me on that duty. I have a great attitude, but when someone questions me on what I have done expecially becuase the duty was the TOUGHEST thing I have ever done, that TICKS me off. I almost lost my marriage. My wife, not the Corps is the most IMPORTANT thing to me.

Also, FYI I contacted a buddy of mine who is an NCIOC 8412, he is a SSGT. He said that you do NOT have to pay back your VA, but you do have to get cleared from the VA doctors NOT a civilian doctor. Also, you do have to pay back ANY seperation pay.That is the latest up to date scoop.
Good Day and Semper Fi

[slimmy07]

Now I spoke to a different contact, He is a GYSGT NCOIC 8412 as well, and he states that you do have to pay it back, both the VA pay and the seperation pay (if any). I got 2 different 8412s telling me to different things. I would just go to your local RSS and try to hash it out with the station NCOIC.

[Sgt Petzold]

I told you, you don't pay it back... you surrender your benefits and the doc has to say you can play Marine again... that's two to one.... and mine is not yours so... it's safe to say you don't have to pay it back... since I won't be paying mine back.

[fjmas1976]

When I spoke to the National Guard recruiter, he said my VA benefits would be held for the duration of my enlistment. He did bot say or mention that I would have to pay back any Disability pay (I already paid back my severance pay to the VA).:usmc:

[Sgt Petzold]

severance is different.... disability pay is compensation for us being broken due to military service. I'll be damned if I have to give that compensation back... I earned it.

[fjmas1976]

Roger that SSGT.......If I did have to pay back my VA Dis. Comp. it would be like $40,000. Not happening........:evilgrin:

[slimmy07]

I told you, you don't pay it back... you surrender your benefits and the doc has to say you can play Marine again... that's two to one.... and mine is not yours so... it's safe to say you don't have to pay it back... since I won't be paying mine back.


Like I said SSGT, I heard TWO different things from TWO different 8412(career recruiters) Marines. They are both from different RS though. To get a for sure answer you would have to talk to the RSS NCOIC and have him talk to OPS to get a 100% real answer because both of the 8412s that I know did state that. Simply hearing an answer form an 8411 Gunny doesnt matter till you get an answer from OPS.

[Sgt Petzold]

....*sigh* yes, gunny's spout off at the mouth without knowing what's going on... I knew that.

If they are mistaken and I wasn't asking for clarification when I asked... I'd try to double check... but I asked for clarification.... the gunny verified and that is what he told me. Thank you for your concern.

[slimmy07]

....*sigh* yes, gunny's spout off at the mouth without knowing what's going on... I knew that.

If they are mistaken and I wasn't asking for clarification when I asked... I'd try to double check... but I asked for clarification.... the gunny verified and that is what he told me. Thank you for your concern.


SSGT you have no clue on how recruiting duty works. He could be an 8411 and have been only on the duty for 6 months. Recruiting is NOT the FLEET nor is it the real Marine Corps. I was the RSS A-slash or ANCOIC as a Sergeant only because I was the SENIOR recruiter. I had 2 years on deck at the time when everyone else had 9 months or less. We had 1 GYSGT, 2 SSGT, and 2 SGT including myself. RANK DOES NOT MATTER ON RECRUITING DUTY. I was simply saying to check with an 8412 NCOIC, not a canvassing recruiter. I was just trying to help, but you obviously do not want my help. I do have concern for my fellow Marines, AlwaYS have and always will. I really am here to help.

[fjmas1976]

I finally received my SRB from the NPRC in St. Louis. It confirmed what I already knew.......I had no NJP's,Court Martials, disciplinary issues, etc. When I was Honorably discharged for my medical issue, I should have been given a RE-3P and not the RE-3C. So, I sent in the DD149 along with the SRB and additonal documentation. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to get feedback or a decision?:usmc:

[Sgt Petzold]

SSGT you have no clue on how recruiting duty works. He could be an 8411 and have been only on the duty for 6 months. Recruiting is NOT the FLEET nor is it the real Marine Corps. I was the RSS A-slash or ANCOIC as a Sergeant only because I was the SENIOR recruiter. I had 2 years on deck at the time when everyone else had 9 months or less. We had 1 GYSGT, 2 SSGT, and 2 SGT including myself. RANK DOES NOT MATTER ON RECRUITING DUTY. I was simply saying to check with an 8412 NCOIC, not a canvassing recruiter. I was just trying to help, but you obviously do not want my help. I do have concern for my fellow Marines, AlwaYS have and always will. I really am here to help.


ok, when I say the gunny checked on it... that doesn't mean that because he's a gunny he magically is allways right........ that means he checked on it.

you are seriously ****ing me off with this "SSgt you have now clue..." ****, I do know how it works. You need to re-read posts before you make comments.

to make is more simple for you to understand so you don't get confused again.

this one recruiter called MEPS to verify the "re-pay" inquirery I had. The answer was no.

[slimmy07]

ok, when I say the gunny checked on it... that doesn't mean that because he's a gunny he magically is allways right........ that means he checked on it.

you are seriously ****ing me off with this "SSgt you have now clue..." ****, I do know how it works. You need to re-read posts before you make comments.

to make is more simple for you to understand so you don't get confused again.

this one recruiter called MEPS to verify the "re-pay" inquirery I had. The answer was no.


I understand that you got your answer. My last post was that you do NOT understand recruiting duty. Unless you have been on it, you have NO clue on how it really works. I was implying that just because it was a GYSGT does not mean he is an expert because recruiting duty is NOT the fleet. It is a whole different beast. So, you might have an understanding on th VA disability, but not about recruitng. Also, re-read my posts, I got 2 different answers from 2 different NCOICs, so I was just saying to double check that.

[Sgt Baker]

I'm over the age limit and overweight too. I wonder if they would let me back in!!!!

[Hornet Handler]

I'm over the age limit and overweight too. I wonder if they would let me back in!!!!
Take you age now subtract your TIS and that is your composite age. As long as that is below the age limit your ok for that. You must be at/below weight though.

I've got 20lbs left to go before I can put in my package.

[Sgt Petzold]

officially it's called the constructed age.... but you have it right.... I have the order for all of this.

MCO 1130.80A

read through it and you'll get all the information you need


1. Eligibility

a. Applicants must fit one of the below categories:

(1) Former First Term Active Duty Sergeants or Corporals

(2) Former First Term Active Duty Lance Corporals. Former active
duty Marines discharged as lance corporals may be submitted only on a caseby-
case basis. Reenlistment requests must contain reasonable justification
as to why the Marine was discharged as an E-3 or why it is in the best
interest of the Marine Corps to reenlist the Marine. For example: the Marine
originally enlisted on a three year contract vice a four or five year
contract and did not have sufficient time to attain corporal; or the Marine
possesses a critically short skill that requires no retraining.

b. Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) Code. Former Marines must be assigned
a RE Code of RE-1A or RE-1B. Marines who were discharged for humanitarian
reasons (with an RE-3H code) must have their humanitarian situation resolved
and then contact CMC (MMER) to have the RE-3H code removed before applying.
The current edition of SECNAVINST 5420.193 contains additional instructions
for correcting military records.

c. Applicants cannot have received separation pay or Voluntary Separation Incentive/Special Separation Benefit (VSI/SSB).

[PYST187]

:!::!::!:

No, I was not a marine.
I would like to reenlist in any branch that will take me, Marines preferable but I'll take when I can get. I spoke with my local Army recruiter as I dont have a local Marine Corps recruiter in this small town. He said 2B is banned for life from reenlisting to contact the Vet. Office and see about getting it upgraded to a eligible code or to a code that could be waved. My local Veteran Services office said that there was no way to upgrade RECODES only discharges. I asked if there was anyway around it to get back in... he said no, try to enlist in the reserves or guard and go active from there. This information was promptly relayed back to the local Army recruiter who said it's been done and to ask to speak with his supervisor. So I turned to the internet for help/research to have a firmer ground to fight from.

I distinctly remember reading(on the internet) that someone overcame his 2Bravo recode and got it upgraded and then waved. IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP ME OR POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET HELP? I badly want back in to prove I'm not a dirt bag and it was a one time f*ck up that I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER and HAVE LEARNED TO BE BETTER. If I got a second shot or a second go around, I know that I could make it.

BACK STORY
I was active Air Force and was restricted to quarters due to having my wisdom teeth pulled and being put on Lortab for pain management. A fellow Airman came to my door and asked if he may have one. I let him get one and he left. He got in trouble months later and rolled on me. I admitted from the start that I did it and did not deny it. I got discharged following an article 15. They said it was distribution of a class3 controlled substance. My DD214 says "misconduct" separation code "JKK" recode "2B". I have worked two years for the local Sheriffs Department as a dispatcher and have only good reviews. I also have good reviews from my enlisted performance reports(prior to my f*cking up) and can get recommendation letters from almost everyone at the Sheriffs Department(the Sheriff himself included.)

Once again, any help would be welcomed. Thank you all.

[PYST187]

Changing Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) Codes
The Armed Forces use Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) codes to categorize individuals for enlistment or reenlistment in the Armed Forces. RE codes in the '1' series indicate a person is eligible for immediate reenlistment or prior service enlistment, provided otherwise eligible. RE codes in the '2', '3' and '4' series restrict the individual from immediate reenlistment or prior service enlistment. You must receive a review and/or waiver of these RE codes before you are eligible to enlist again.
There are many qualified prior service applicants who possess a '1' series RE code who will not be able to reenter the military due to specific needs of the service. (See article on Prior Service Enlistments).
In most cases, a person with a "2" RE or "4" RE code is not allowed to enlist. Those with an RE Code of "3" may be allowed to enlist, with a waiver, if they can show that the reason for discharge no longer applies. Such waivers are granted through the individual services through military recruiters, not the DRB process.


The Discharge Boards will not directly consider a request to change the RE code in the DRB process. There is one exception: If the DRB upgrades an applicant's discharge, the Board will also consider whether the RE code should be changed. If the applicant is considered a good candidate to return to the military, the RE code will be changed to "3A"--a waiverable code.
Any request to directly consider a change to RE code not involving change to the characterization of service and/or narrative reason for separation must be made through the appropriate Board of Correction for Military Records.


If you are seeking a waiver or change of the RE code for the purpose of entering another branch of service, you will need to contact the appropriate service recruiter. The prerogative to waive the individual's RE ineligibility based on post service performance and conduct rests with the Secretaries of the Army, Navy and Air Force. Each Secretary may allow an individual to enlist in the service under his/her jurisdiction. The Secretary of one branch of the Armed Forces has no authority to waive reenlistment/enlistment ineligibility for another service. For example, if a former Army member wishes to enlist in the Air Force, he/she must process through Air Force channels for prior service enlistment. If the RE code renders the veteran ineligible, he/she must process any review or change action through Army channels.

[fjmas1976]

This whole process regarding trying to get an RE code changed is confusing. I've heard 10 different answers from 10 different people and even the Prior Service Recruiter doesnt really know what the deal is with applying for an RE code change. Even something as little as what address to send it to became complicated because I had people tell me 3 different addresses and two different locations. I sent a DD149 to three different addresses hoping at least one of them will end up where it is supposed to.:usmc:

[AdrianC1982]

Changing Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) Codes
The Armed Forces use Reenlistment Eligibility (RE) codes to categorize individuals for enlistment or reenlistment in the Armed Forces. RE codes in the '1' series indicate a person is eligible for immediate reenlistment or prior service enlistment, provided otherwise eligible. RE codes in the '2', '3' and '4' series restrict the individual from immediate reenlistment or prior service enlistment. You must receive a review and/or waiver of these RE codes before you are eligible to enlist again.
There are many qualified prior service applicants who possess a '1' series RE code who will not be able to reenter the military due to specific needs of the service. (See article on Prior Service Enlistments).
In most cases, a person with a "2" RE or "4" RE code is not allowed to enlist. Those with an RE Code of "3" may be allowed to enlist, with a waiver, if they can show that the reason for discharge no longer applies. Such waivers are granted through the individual services through military recruiters, not the DRB process.


The Discharge Boards will not directly consider a request to change the RE code in the DRB process. There is one exception: If the DRB upgrades an applicant's discharge, the Board will also consider whether the RE code should be changed. If the applicant is considered a good candidate to return to the military, the RE code will be changed to "3A"--a waiverable code.
Any request to directly consider a change to RE code not involving change to the characterization of service and/or narrative reason for separation must be made through the appropriate Board of Correction for Military Records.


If you are seeking a waiver or change of the RE code for the purpose of entering another branch of service, you will need to contact the appropriate service recruiter. The prerogative to waive the individual's RE ineligibility based on post service performance and conduct rests with the Secretaries of the Army, Navy and Air Force. Each Secretary may allow an individual to enlist in the service under his/her jurisdiction. The Secretary of one branch of the Armed Forces has no authority to waive reenlistment/enlistment ineligibility for another service. For example, if a former Army member wishes to enlist in the Air Force, he/she must process through Air Force channels for prior service enlistment. If the RE code renders the veteran ineligible, he/she must process any review or change action through Army channels.
Where did you acquire this information from? Do you have a link or name for this source?

[DUNDEE]

How do you get Back in
good evening devildogs im a young pup who got a Medical Dicharged very early in my carreer i heard rumors that i can get back in and i heard rumors that im SOL i was rated 30% by the va and i just wondering is it possible to get back in oh yah im on the tdrl list and re code in 3p thanks Semper fi

I had a RE-3P discharge from boot camp in Jan 2002. I was able to get a BUMED waiver and return to boot camp in Jan 2005. It took 3 years and one day from the date I stepped off the island and the day I returned to those yellow footprints, but it can be done. The opportunity to return and earn the title was worth the wait. If you want it, keep trying. Good luck and Semper Fi.:thumbup:

[Mikewebe]

Anyone needed to do a tattoo waiver or age waiver. I'm 38 and they are telling me I can still qualify on age but may not grant the tattoo waiver, hoping to join the ATB in Billings, and they will only give me 36 months if it is approved. Also what is the length of the Corporals course and NCO school

[fjmas1976]

Tattoo waivers? Is this for all tattoos or only those visible while in Uniform?:usmc:

[Mikewebe]

Anything visible in PT gear or anything covered or not that may be considered offensive. So no naked chicks and stuff. One guy here just got denied his initial enlistment cause he has a Jack Daniels bottle on his leg

[Sgt Petzold]

the Marine Corps is cracking down on tattoos in general... so good luck getting one of those... three is the max and as previously mentioned... nothing lude or crude.

[Mikewebe]

Well I had 5 done while I was in and I'll fight that, especially since they got Gunnys on TV sleeved up

[Sgt Petzold]

those gunnies are grandfathered into it killer.

they were in before that order came down... don't think you'll win that one.

[slimmy07]

Well I had 5 done while I was in and I'll fight that, especially since they got Gunnys on TV sleeved up


You said that you had 5 wdone while you were in, As long as they were documented when you got out then your fine. If you got any ink done after getting out, it will require a waiver and it can take awhile. The max is 4 tattoos for new applicants and no sleeves, but in your case you had them while you were in and as long as they are DOCUMENTED...you will be fine.

[Javier1373]

I tried to go back in. My lil bro (1st Force) got out alittle bit ago and got sleeved after I got sleeved. Nothing lewd or crude. We both tried to go back but were denied because of our sleeves. I wasn't very happy but I can't complain. We're both cops and working the streets so it's not that bad.

[Cpl Yu]

HooRah Marines,

My name is Cpl. Yu, entered the service in 2003 and got out in 2006. I was medical retired and placed on TDRL with 30% disability from the Corps. I am currently working as a NYPD Police Officer, but found it to be way different than the Corps. Anyhow, my last reevulations physical while on TDRL found me unfit and want to place me on PDRL with 30%. After fighting it with the board, on July 1st, I was found fit to return to active service. I've been talking to a prior enlisted recruiter ever since and even before my physical down at Bethesda, MD. I have a RE-3P code which I was told that it would be automatically changed to RE-1A, because of what PEB had decided and I got orders from SECNAV and CMC to return to active service. However, I don't think my recruiter know how to proceed with me, as not many cases like mine ever got pushed from TDRL to fit for duty. Anyone have any experience with this?

[fjmas1976]

HooRah Marines,

My name is Cpl. Yu, entered the service in 2003 and got out in 2006. I was medical retired and placed on TDRL with 30% disability from the Corps. I am currently working as a NYPD Police Officer, but found it to be way different than the Corps. Anyhow, my last reevulations physical while on TDRL found me unfit and want to place me on PDRL with 30%. After fighting it with the board, on July 1st, I was found fit to return to active service. I've been talking to a prior enlisted recruiter ever since and even before my physical down at Bethesda, MD. I have a RE-3P code which I was told that it would be automatically changed to RE-1A, because of what PEB had decided and I got orders from SECNAV and CMC to return to active service. However, I don't think my recruiter know how to proceed with me, as not many cases like mine ever got pushed from TDRL to fit for duty. Anyone have any experience with this?
What is your question? Are you going back to Active Duty?

[bear03]

I checked with meps and the VA, As I was told Before, after 9-11 I would be requiered to pay it back if I had collected any VA comp.I was at service connect at 0% when I went back in so I had nothing to repay. I just re checked with the meps and VA and was told the same thing, I am collecting 30% now and I would have to pay it back.
I don't know, must be the MEPS center and the VA must be wrong. I know one thing this topic has been beat to death and no definitive answer has been put in place.
Good luck Devil Dog, hope everything works out for you.

[Sgt Petzold]

as a matter of fact the Marine Corps has an order that stated you have to pay back severance pay, not disability pay... they are just wording it wrong. if you want the order the message me and I'll get it for you, I'm too lazy to get it now since I'm not at home.

[Mikewebe]

As far as the tats being documented, they didn't do that 15 years ago, so they aren't. But I have photographic evidence of them while I was in. Maybe I could use that to my advantage.

[LawieE4]

New member here... quick question. Got out, Hon Discharge 20081214, RE-1A, 4 yrs Act Du, Cpl,... What options do I have If I re-enlist?

[oldtop]

If the discharge date you posted is correct, you're not out yet... go see your career planner. If you were discharged on 20071214..go to a prior service recruiter

[YutYut]

To add what Top stated, go see a prior service recruiter if you want to be a Reservist. Go to a regular recruiter if you want to go back on Active Duty.

[Sgt Petzold]

yeah... what yut yut said.

[SGT7477]

just give me orders for iraq and i'll even provide my own 782 gear and m-16s (have two).

Wish it was that easy we would all be there, Semper FI.

[Sgt Petzold]

there was a retired gunny who paid for a ticket to iraq in '03... general mattis thought it was so great, that he didn't send him home right away... but after the conflict they flew him home on government funds... the guy hitch-hiked to the base and bought himself an AK from someone... he had his retiree military ID.

[NotSoSneaky]

Hopefully this is not a repost, if so then sorry.
Ok long story short, I got out with a general under honorable RE-4 HFX1 from the Marine Corps nearly 8 years ago. I know that its nearly impossible to get back into the Marine Corps with this but I want to try. What steps should i take to have the RE changed? Is it possible to have the Sep code changed? Would a doctors evaluation be helpful in this process, and if so what would the evaluation need to say? Should i talk to a recruiter, or should i worry about trying to get the RE and sep codes changed first....or maybe, would a recruiter be able to help get them changed?
Any information you guys could provide would be greatly appreciated and please feel free to post links that may help.
Thanks

[fjmas1976]

You gotta fill out your profile Devil. PM me and I will kick you some knowledge of what I've done to get my RE code changed and other helpful info.:usmc:

[Cpl Yu]

Greeting Marines,

Sorry for the delay on reply. It has been pretty busy in NYC since the highten alert and the U.N. coming in town. Anyhow, my recruiter was able to arrange a MEPS physical tomorrow (On a Saturday?) for a brief physical by the doctor, so my reenlistment package can be set up. I was told by this SSgt that I would need to get a wavier from BUMED. Since I was cleared by MEB (Medical Evulation Board), my chances of getting the wavier is high, but could still be denied. Keep in mind that I was found fit for duty. Due to the fact that I have a career with the NYPD at this point, my main goal is only to reenlist into the reserves, even IRR. Rather or not I wish to stay in my MOS is something that I am going to wait till I offically sign my reenlistment contract. It has been a headache and it wasn't as easy as I thought to be.

I am still curious to know if any Marines ever returned to active duty or reenlisted after being found fit for duty from TDRL. I was told that cases like mine would either get transfer to PDRL or simply discharged with severance pay, not many ever returned.

If any of you know a prior service recruiter that know how to deal with my case, please advise me their name and number.

[echo3oscar1833]

First and foremost my fellow Marines let me commend each and everyone of you for your desire, willingness, and faith in wanting to serve our beloved Corps once again. With all of this being said I think I will explain my situation to the entire situation here to the Leatherneck Community, I hope that this sheds some light on a few things regarding Reenlistment, the Marine Corps, and in general Life. On June, 15, 2003 I was Honorably DIscharged, with a RE-3P reenlistment code, and a JFN1 Seperation Code. Basically what this means is I will never be allowed to reenlist in the our beloved Corps ever agian, or any other branch of Military for that matter. Now I will go out and say that I have tried time and time again to reenlist in every branch in the service, petitioned the Naval Board of Corrections, and even Petitioned to the Commandant, and Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps on several occasions as well. So where am I going with this, well this story has a bit more to go to reach what I am trying to say. So with all of that being said I have been out of the Marine Corps, I again have tried to reenlist, but my medical issues that I was discharged for prevails me from this. At the time of discharged I was young and married, and very depressed about leaving the Corps without having any say so in the matter. I became depressed it cause me to loose alot of good jobs in the civilian world that paid alot more than the Corps, from there I started to drink alot, which in turn caused me to get a divorce, and sent me into a even more severe depression. I started to drink more, had a few on and off relationships that didn't workout. After going through all of this one night I decided to commit SUICIDE, by cutting my wrists open. Thankfully I survived, I ended up in the hospital, and then being committed to a CSU Facility in Florida. There I worked with alot of people, and got my life for the most part straighted out. I now work at Wal-mart making money, and getting 40hrs a week, going back to college, and soon will be getting my degree and will be making good money. As far as the Marine Corps in all of this, I think this is the most important part of the story that you as Marines should read and really take advice on. If you can't get back in don't get depressed, in a sense you can say no matter what you where part of the biggest and baddest boys club on earth and no one can take that away from you. Take pride in the rank that you got out as. even though I got out as a Lance Corporal, I earned that, and in a way even if I could get back in, and they said I would loose rank I probably wouldn't do it then. Why would I give up something that I earned, and was hard to earn at that. Cause as we know all things in the Marine Corps is earned. So in the end when there might be a time when you could loose it all just remember one thing my fellow Marines the one thing you will still have is being a Marine, and all that you earned and worked for in the Marines, cause that cant be taken away. If you want to reenlist, by all means continue to fight, and work for it. Don't give up, but do remember it will not be an easy road, I can say that from first hand experience. As for me I have come to realize that getting back in is not an option for me, because of my previous discharge, and now my being commited, and on anti-depressent medication. But I know that I will always be a Marine and that is enough for me.

[Sgt Petzold]

first, you should write in paragraph format for the benefit of your potential readers... I just skipped over you entire book because it looks like it COULD be a run-on sentence... but since I didn't read it, I'll never know.

second... I just started my PSEP paperwork... you have a limit of 4 Tattoos and you'll need to have pictures taken of them!!!!

you'll have to write some statements on why you got out, why you want back in, and about tattoos, police involvement and NJPs you might have.

if you did drugs at all while you were out you are permanently disqualified for re-enlistment... don't even bother if you're dumb enough to have any in your system.

Also you'll need photos in your PT gear, and proper civilian attire.

I'm a SNCO so I need to take a promotion picture to send in to the board... I've got to send my package into what my recruiter called a "long board"... it's going to be reviewed by more people I suppose.

as more info comes around I'll post it here.