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hoytarcher45
11-08-05, 11:51 AM
For those of you who dont know me, my name is Lcpl Miller. I am a reservist with the 4th CEB in Baltimore MD. I currently am a freshman at Frostburg State University in western Maryland.

Last Night, I was required to attend a presentation by a Dr. Megan Boler titled "From Terrorism to Katrina: Dissecting Representations of Race in the U.S. Media." What I heard there was apauling. Some of her main points were how the U.S. media is very conservative and very racist. She bashed Bush a lot, who she called the "supposedly elected president". She also showed a lot of political cartoons and video clips bashing the war. After the presentation as everyone was leaving, I walked up on stage to ask her a few questions. One of the first things she said was "In the post 9/11 era, political tensions are so high in the U.S. that it is a relief for me to be living in Canada." I asked her what she ment by this, and why she didn't try to change what she thought was wrong instead of running away. She blurted somthing about teaching at Virgina Tech, so I asked her again. She told me that the U.S. government is starting to mirror Nazi Germany during WWII, and that the controll they have on the media is such that she can access world media from inside the U.S. anymore. At this point I was steaming. I shook her hand and said "God Bless America," and then left. I don't know why a professor living in Canada came to my country to take a dump on it, or why I was required by two of my professors to attend, but needless to say I was ****ed. I had no idea that Frosburg was so overrun by liberals. I see it everyday. Are there any other Marines out there that go to college and are seeing the same things that I am?

rktect3j
11-08-05, 12:04 PM
This is typical college professor behaviour. You are going to have to suck it up as the folks running the show inside those fine institutions will make sure you hear their side and none other. I graduated 8 years ago and went thru the same thing. I ended up getting B's in most classes because I wouldn't give in to their crap. Don't worry though, once you graduate you find more people on the right side of it. In school you will see the other side because the people there are too afraid to come out into the real world. Good luck.

magicalx
11-08-05, 12:39 PM
Corporal's right...I'm a senior in a university in NJ and it's the same way. Western and Northern collegiate institutions have always traditionally been very liberal. Alot of professors and so called "experts" that teach in these places use the university classroom to spread their own beliefs and often times forget about the factual education part. There really isn't anything that you can do besides look for more conservative colleges to attend (mainly in the south and mid-west). Over the past few years I've come to realize that the best thing for a college conservative to do is stand up to what you believe is right...but always make sure you can back up your opinion. Dont just tell them they suck...make sure they know exactly why they suck. :D And if you feel that they have unfairly graded you or alienated you in class...you can use their tactics and go complain to the Dean about unfair and unequal treatment. Don't be afraid to make a fuss.

Mastergunz G
11-08-05, 01:55 PM
Here's one for you: I was attending Campbell University, which teaches classes onboard Camp Lejeune. I was taking my first history class, as that is what I wanted to major in. My class started 2 days before 9/11. Our next class that met after the attacks was, to say the least, interesting. Everyone was late due to the high state of security coming onto base. Our instructor was an hour late and was fuming. He had been pulled over and his car searched because it contained several cardboard boxes. He ranted and raved for about 30 minutes about how Bush caused this and how screwed up the military was for "harassing" him at the gate! I was livid! I tried several times to interrupt his tirade, which he tried his best not to let me do. Finally I told him to shut his liberal mouth and if he didn't like it, to get the hell off of our military base and go teach in some liberal college up north! The place fell silent. We wound up nose to nose and I politely told him I would kick his liberal a$$ all the way off of Camp Lejeune if that is what it would take to shut his mouth! We were finally seperated by two other Marines in the class. Needless to say the rest of the semester was one of pins and needles. But I never backed down and when he would start talking his trash, I would fire back. The shame of it all was that he was one hell of a history buff, but I decided that I couldn't take his attitude for 6 more classes and wound up changing my major. But that one moment was worth it.

rb1651
11-08-05, 02:05 PM
Mastergunz G,

OUTSTANDING!!!!!

rproctor922
11-08-05, 02:32 PM
He ranted and raved for about 30 minutes about how Bush caused this and how screwed up the military was for "harassing" him at the gate! I was livid! I tried several times to interrupt his tirade, which he tried his best not to let me do. .

Willing to let me know his name? He sounds a lot like a professor I had from Campbell.

rktect3j
11-08-05, 03:10 PM
Here's one for you: I was attending Campbell University, which teaches classes onboard Camp Lejeune. I was taking my first history class, as that is what I wanted to major in. My class started 2 days before 9/11. Our next class that met after the attacks was, to say the least, interesting. Everyone was late due to the high state of security coming onto base. Our instructor was an hour late and was fuming. He had been pulled over and his car searched because it contained several cardboard boxes. He ranted and raved for about 30 minutes about how Bush caused this and how screwed up the military was for "harassing" him at the gate! I was livid! I tried several times to interrupt his tirade, which he tried his best not to let me do. Finally I told him to shut his liberal mouth and if he didn't like it, to get the hell off of our military base and go teach in some liberal college up north! The place fell silent. We wound up nose to nose and I politely told him I would kick his liberal a$$ all the way off of Camp Lejeune if that is what it would take to shut his mouth! We were finally seperated by two other Marines in the class. Needless to say the rest of the semester was one of pins and needles. But I never backed down and when he would start talking his trash, I would fire back. The shame of it all was that he was one hell of a history buff, but I decided that I couldn't take his attitude for 6 more classes and wound up changing my major. But that one moment was worth it.
Isn't there a ribbon for that? At least a letter of appreciation, right?

germe1967
11-08-05, 04:03 PM
I am a student at ITT Tech, and I must say I am fortunate in that I haven't had any such pressure. Admittedly, most of my instructors are former or retired military. (They tend to make the best IT instructors according to the dean)
I will tell you that the Northeast is not the only area where these things happen. Here in Washington it is rampant. Not only in the institutions of higher learning, but all the way down to the elementary schools. Just three years ago, a young lady in a Seattle area high school was suspended for three days for saying "Merry Christmas" because of its religious connotations. My own daughter was suspended for reading her Bible quietly by herself at lunch. (Her suspension was lifted after a tense visit from an irritated Marine Sgt to the principal and counselor)
As for their inablility to hear your point of view, that is to be expected. If they listen to the truth, their lies cannot hold up and the basis for their "authority" or "expertise" is washed away like a sand castle when the tide goes out. Just do what Marines do. Stand up for what's right.

Mastergunz G
11-09-05, 06:56 AM
Honest to God, I can't remember his name right now. Maybe it will come back to me. But he was one of the only "teachers" that taught most of the history classes, especially those concerning the Revolutionary/Civil War. I just remember him as "A$$hole".

CplCrotty
11-09-05, 08:06 AM
The vast majority of our colleges and universities are becoming the very birthplaces of the liberal-socialist nonsense that could destroy this country. Most professors today, especially in traditional liberal arts programs, are baby-boomer hippies from the 60's and 70's who carry a permanent chip on their shoulder regarding all things military. Personally I think their attitudes and opinions represent a cowardly disguise for guilt - guilt and refusal to accept blame for the damage they did to the United States during that time and unforgivable sin of crapping on our honorable veterans of the Viet Nam era.

I had to put up with two femi-nazi professors in grad school, and that was in Salt Lake City. Always a B or A- on my papers.

They practice exactly what they claim to be against. Abuse of power and position.

rproctor922
11-09-05, 08:35 AM
Honest to God, I can't remember his name right now. Maybe it will come back to me. But he was one of the only "teachers" that taught most of the history classes, especially those concerning the Revolutionary/Civil War. I just remember him as "A$$hole".


It sounds like the same guy. When I was in the army at Ft Bragg I had a proffessor from Campbell who taught American History I, who acted just like that. I ended up leaving his class and Campbell all together because of the way he acted.

usmarine0313
11-09-05, 12:03 PM
I had a liberal proffessor call me a jarhead because he couldn't pronounce my name. What do you think of that? I was pretty f**king p**sed but he was laughing about it and was like " arent you called that everyday" and I was like no I'm called by my rank because I earned it. Either say my name right and call me CPL. He didnt really like that but Im not going to let some liberal punk call me a jarhead in front of 30 other people.

Semper Fi-

hoytarcher45
11-09-05, 12:26 PM
I just want to learn the material of each of my classes. If I can tell the professor is liberal within the first 5 min of him talking, there is somthing wrong. Im not taking World History to learn why President Bush is an *******, Im taking World History to learn about world history. The best professors I have are the ones that I dont know what their political affiliation is. Liberal or Conservative, the political views of professors needs to be left out of their instruction. Thanks for the advice though brothers. Im not going to tollerate this leftist nonsence.

RLeon
11-09-05, 01:25 PM
In one of my english classes I was required to read "Things They Carried" By Tim O'brian. As a supplement to the reading our professor gave us a handout with Vietnam "Facts". This handout's "facts" were a list of the typical myths perpetuated by hollywood, media,and libs. Well, our next assignment was a many page paper. So for my subject I chose to disprove the professor's "fact" sheet. It had to be the best paper I ever wrote, and I debunked ALL of the crap on that list. Every paper I wrote in that class was an A...until that one..oh yeah my professor just happened to be a protestor in the 60's.

Mastergunz G
11-09-05, 01:34 PM
At least you didn't compromise your integrity and fall into that web of "I need to do what will get me the best grade" crap! Good for you for trashing the lies! And I agree that the best professor is one that you don't know his politics. If you were taking a politcal class that calls for debate, that is one thing. But last time I checked, no one was questioning General Washington on his casualties at Valley Forge!

Osotogary
11-09-05, 02:44 PM
I had one professor that was really good at what he taught, that being Political Science. Fortunately he, at least by my observation, didn't try to impose his political leanings (very liberal, very democrat) on any of the night time, working class students. What he did instead was to never let us forget that he knew the Kennedy's. LOL. I always wondered why he was teaching in San Francisco. Maybe it was to bring a little Eastern University educated class and culture from Massachusetts to the "wild west".
Just a thought. It has always seemed to me that evening and night classes taught, on a college/university level, always had a more serious note about them. Teachers were challenged, students were challenged but it was all for the sake of learning the subject matter. I didn't see too much "screwin' around".
Question? Has anybody ever taken a class that, unbeknownst, was being investigated? Alot of that went on in the late sixties/early seventies in the SF Bay Area.