Intel MOS

[scottferrell]

My son just enlisted DEP 3 weks ago. He scored high enough on the ASVAB for any enlisted MOS. He was trying to decide between Enlisted Aircrew & Intelligence. He chose Intelligence. Is this a good choice for him? He wants something that help prepare him for a civilian carrer if he decides to not stay in the military. He wants to work towards a college degree while enlisted & finish up with the GI Bill if & when he get out. In Intelligence, what would a "typical" day be like? Also, are Marines in Intel mostly in office settings or field settings? Thanks for your insight into this.

[hoytarcher45]

Intelligence is the best MOS in the Marine Corps if you ask me, but then again I've never been anything else. As far as preparation for a civilian carrer, the security clearance he will get will be a major asset to him when looking for one. It costs civilian companies thousands of dollars to get an employee a security clearance, and the Marines will give it to him for free (if they deam him worthy). Basically, an Intelligence Specialist's job is to 1. find out about the enemy and 2. to prevent the enemy from finding out about us. He will use computers for a lot of this. Another big part of the job will be to give briefs, usually to officers, and to breif and debreif other Marines on intelligence matters. The setting he will be in will depend a lot on the type of unit and its size. I had the best time of my life in the MOS school tho...its a 12 week school in VA Beach, but he will probably be in hold for a few months more than that. If you have any more questions feel free to e-mail me. Great things lye ahead in this MOS, but remember...the first step is to go to boot camp and BECOME A MARINE. Tell your son good luck. -Lcpl Miller

[Phantom Blooper]

FIELD 02, INTELLIGENCE
The Intelligence OccFld conducts the collection, processing, and dissemination of intelligence. The specialties within the Intelligence OccFld are analysis, counterintelligence, imagery interpretation, interrogation-translation, and geographic intelligence. Basic qualification requirements include clerical, communication, and computer skills. Intelligence specialists are required to learn and master a variety of analytical and technical skills.

Formal schooling is mandatory for assignment of an intelligence MOS. Entry-level Marines enter the field in MOS 0231, (Intelligence Specialist) or MOS 0261 (Geographic Intelligence Specialist). Entry into MOS 0211 (Counterintelligence Specialist), 0241 (Imagery Interpreter), or 0251 (Interrogator-Translator) is accomplished by lateral move. Duty assignments vary widely from all levels of the Fleet Marine Force to Joint Staffs, to Unified/Commands.



Intelligence Marines also have the opportunity to serve in Category "B" billets such as drill instructor, recruiter, and Marine Security Guard duty. Marines entering the OccFld will receive MOS 0200, Basic Intelligence Marines, while participating in On-the-job training (if required) and/or attending formal school.
All Marines assigned an intelligence MOS must submit a Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) prior to attending formal school. Intelligence MOS Marines must have an adjudicated SSBI to qualify for assignment of one of the primary intelligence MOSs. Intelligence MOSs are assigned and voided only by the Commandant of the Marine Corps (MM) in coordination with the 02 Occupational Field Specialist (C4I) recommendations.

Primary MOS's


0211-- Counterintelligence (CI) Specialist

0231-- Intelligence Specialist

0241-- Imagery Analysis Specialist

0251-- Interrogator/Debriefer

0261-- Geographic Intelligence Specialist

0291-- Intelligence Chief

Secondary MOS's (See Note Below)


0212-- Technical Surveillance Countermeasures (TSCM) Specialist

Note: A secondary MOS is a "job within a job." It denotes a special skill or training that the Marine holds in addition to the general requirements of his/her Primary MOS.

[Praegenstein]

Hoytarcher45 - I'm currently awaiting my ship date (8/24/09), and will be 0231 upon completion of Boot. I'm trying to narrow-down how long I will be away for my MOS training. In your post, you wrote 12-weeks, but also said that you may be "on hold for a few months more than that". Could you explain what you mean by "on hold"? Is this to await your security clearance? I appreciate any information you can help me with.

[0231Marine]

Wow, you really dug this thread up huh?

He meant that if there aren't enough students to form a whole class, you'll be put on hold until the remaining students show up. It may take a couple weeks or a couple months depending on how many students are still going through bootcamp and MCT.

[Praegenstein]

0231Marine - thank you for your response. I also read your long thread about the 0231 MOS, the process, etc - thanks very much for all of the good information.

[StreetDog77]

I am beginning the process of making a lat move into 0211. I am a prior service, just came back in after almost ten years out. I got divorced and lost my civilian job, so my credit got a little beat up in the process. My credit isn't horrible, but it's not superb either. How much will this affect my ability to make a lat move to 02? Other than a beat up credit score, I have an impeccable background.

[Mousimus]

i just enlisted in DEP a few weeks ago and im considering going in to intel cuz i know they are very important to the corps and its a great job for your future, but i crave the excitement and physical demand infantry. is there any part of intel that is closely related to infantry and is still very exciting because one thing i dont want is to be stuck behind a desk for 4 years. also, cant i serve in other areas such as drill instructor if the opportunity opens up

[StreetDog77]

There are alot of things you need to consider Mousimus. I was in infantry and recon and loved it. Here is the problem, I have absolutely no marketable job skills in the civilian world. I just came back in the Corps after ten years out, and looking back on it, I wish I would have taken better advantage of the opportunities the Marines have.

So you need to ask yourself, what do you want to do after your first enlistment, i.e. what are your plans for the future?

What Marine corps jobs line up with future plans in the civilian world? Military job experience is priceless.

Right now, you may be unsure of your future plans. That's ok, I had no idea what I wanted to do when i was eighteen. Find a job that interests you and one that will give you the ability to knock out some higher education, too.

To answer your question regarding intel, I don't know. I'm currently going through the screening process right now. From what I understand, the MOS 0211 CI/HUMINT works hand and hand with infantry/recon and Marsoc units among others. So you will be exposed to alot of training and operational commitments of these units as a 0211 Marine. In addition to that, you will have a strong start to a succesfull future with the 02 training under you belt.

One reality of the intel job, that I have heard is you will also spend countless hours writing reports and reading documents. So, you will spend alot of time stuck behind a desk as well. Yes, you will have the opportunity for a "B" Billet, such as Drill Instructor duty. However, once you are in the intel community there is no moving out of it. So ask around on this site and other external resources.

The recruiter will tell you what you want to hear, so you sign up. Don't rely on a recruiter for much more than being a paperwork catalyst. I hope this helps.

[H2SemperFi]

Does anyone know if the DLAB is mandatory to be passed to enter Intel because my recruiter is saying if i dont pass the DLAB that i cant go into Intel. Thanks

[TinDragon]

I didn't have to have it done when I went into Intel but a MARADMIN or Order or something came out that dictates that all Intel Marines need to have a DLAB on the books. I don't know if that would stop you from going in as Intel, but I know that you'll have to take it once you hit the fleet anyway, so you might as well take it before.

However, you don't need to PASS. Technically, there is no passing score. You need a score of 100 or higher to go linguist, but as long as you have a score on the books, you don't need to have over 100 to be intel. Unless you're a linguist, obviously.

EDIT: According to the MARADMIN, "ALL MARINE RECRUITS WHO WILL HOLD A FUTURE MOS IN EITHER 02XX OR 26XX FIELD WILL BE ADMINISTERED THE DLAB WHILE ATTENDING RECRUIT TRAINING." So you don't need to take it before you go off to boot camp.

If your recruiter needs to see the MarAdmin to believe you, it's MARADMIN 0526/09.

[Mledford]

I was sent down to MEPS a second time to take the DLAB because I was signing onto Intel so it may be required before boot camp, though I'm not really sure. Either way, as soon as I got back to my RS I filled out paperwork for my it.

[Mousimus]

is it true that i can sign on to special forces i.e. SEALs joint operations and force recon and all that through intel? because my recruiter said that. im joining intel and im wondering if its really true that i can attempt force recon

[StreetDog77]

Mousimus,

There is a vague amount of truth to what your recruiter is telling you. In the event you stay in the intel community for quite some time, this could be an option down the road. From that, I mean once you become a seasoned intel dude years into your career you may be tasked to work with jsoc (joint special ops command). Don't join intel banking on that opportunity though. If you want to get into the seals or force, then take the direct route there, i.e. join the corps on a recon contract of infantry or go into the navy and pass buds. Remember, 99% of recruiters will tell you what you want to hear to get you to sign on the dotted line.

Don't undermine the distinguishment of having intel on your resume though. It is a highly reputable job even without ever stepping foot in the specops side of the house. Good luck to you.

[Rocky C]

Do you realize this Thread is 5 years old???

[gwamo1]

haha

[Venge03]

yes you need to take the dlab before boot now. i just took it. yes you need to pass it to get intel as of now. the guy taking it with me got a 50 and couldnt go intel. It was different not too long ago because my recruiter told me 6 months ago I didnt have to pass. But now with the quotas filled they only take the best.

[topless617]

i took the DLAB just not even a month ago, I didnt have to pass, nor did I pass it. But I still got my MOS of 0261.

[Meagan92]

I am considering this MOS as well=)
best of luck to you!

[KilpatrickF250]

yes you need to take the dlab before boot now. i just took it. yes you need to pass it to get intel as of now. the guy taking it with me got a 50 and couldnt go intel. It was different not too long ago because my recruiter told me 6 months ago I didnt have to pass. But now with the quotas filled they only take the best.

Where are you getting this info?? I took it only 2 months ago IN boot camp and got an 81. Getting a low DLAB score has no negative effect on you. It can only help you. I have a friend who scored REALLY high and his MOS was changed to Middle Eastern Translator.

[bulletooth0311]

I'm re-enlisting from grunts to Intel. I heard about Ground Sensor Platoon and it sounded good, but i cant find out which Intel MOS you have to be to get into GSP. My guess, 0241 Imagery Analysis Specialist, any answers? Thanks.

[Accord]

I'm re-enlisting from grunts to Intel. I heard about Ground Sensor Platoon and it sounded good, but i cant find out which Intel MOS you have to be to get into GSP. My guess, 0241 Imagery Analysis Specialist, any answers? Thanks.

You keep your 03 MOS. GSP is basically the working party platoon for the battalion, it is NOT cool, sexy, or fun. Stay with a victor unit if you like being a grunt.

[Five9ZJ]

I'm re-enlisting from grunts to Intel. I heard about Ground Sensor Platoon and it sounded good, but i cant find out which Intel MOS you have to be to get into GSP. My guess, 0241 Imagery Analysis Specialist, any answers? Thanks.

It's a bmos of 8621 and it blows. As said above, you're the working party platoon. It's NCOs are mainly security force guys who come there with one year left on contract who have never set foot overseas.

[Geosedna]

intel
hello,
i am currently a 1371 combat engineer. i am a lance corporal with one deployment under my belt and im about to hit my two year mark. i would like to lat move to the Intel field. if i lat moved to 0231 Intel specialist would it be possible to later as a sergeant or staff sergeant to become a 0211 counter Intel or if i go to Intel spec. will i be stuck there for good. thank you for your time any input is greatly appreciated.

[mzninety]

I know this thread is old but hopefully someone can answer me. I was looking up this same information because I am looking into going into the Marines hopefully with an Intel MOS. I was just a little curious about what exactly are you able to do while the class is on hold? Can you come back home?

[HardJedi]

come back home if a class is on hold? not likely, unless things have changed a lot. Iif no class is running, there is guard duty, working parties, and mess duty that still need to be done every day.

[Mledford]

I know this thread is old but hopefully someone can answer me. I was looking up this same information because I am looking into going into the Marines hopefully with an Intel MOS. I was just a little curious about what exactly are you able to do while the class is on hold? Can you come back home? The only way you can go home while waiting to pick up is to go on recruiter's assistance. They'll send you on recruiters assistance if the holding platoon is too fll to fit in the Marine Barracks. Believe it or not, it happened while I was at MOS so don't rule out the possibility.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

You paint rocks, do police call, clean the barracks, stand duty, complete background forms, and work any other detail 'as assigned' until your class picks up.

Only the Air Force 'sends you home' until they are ready.

[JSchronce]

This is an old thread but I see some of you have brought it back. I just took the dlab on Wednesday and scored an 89 which is a lot worse than I expected to do. However, I DO NOT want Linguist even though my recruiting station has a spot for that May 16th with a 10g bonus. I was planning on taking this position without the linguist component and the money. However, now i'm being told after the test that I needed to score at least a 90 for INTEL ...when the MSGT at MEPS and my recruiter told me the dlab was irrelevant...

Any Explanations here guys?

[wargrudge]

DLAB has nothing to do with your eligibility for Intel in general, it only really matters if you want to be a linguist. If you score high enough, as far as I remember, you can elect to change your MOS to be a linguist.


Not sure if the rules changed since I took it a few years back though. I'm a 2651, and back then the DLAB was just a required test that nobody cared about really.

[JSchronce]

Corporal Sands, Thank you sir. I'm hoping your information is still up to date. I just got a call from my recruiter and after him and the NCOIC at my recruiting station did some research apparently I can get an Intel job. So you must be correct marine, Thanks!

They put in a request to move me into this other guy's spot because they are discharging him..he disappeared or something. So I should know by this afternoon or tomorrow at the latest if it's approved. Possible ship date to MCRD PI possibly June 6th!

[dinorasaur]

I have a question regarding CI.

Would any of you agree or disagree that lat-moving into CI can/will put a strain on a marriage and why? And how often/long are the deployment time frames?

I am looking into lat-moving into CI, because I know the background and training will help me get into the FBI. But my husband insists I just go into Reserves or do CID.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

It will. Divorce rates at one time were higher in CI than in Recon. (Number of deployments and length of time). Not sure what they are now but this was told to me in 'peacetime' circa 1999 or so.

[Feador09]

I recently lat moved into 0241, i was wondering if someone can tell me when the next school is, where the school is located and how long it is.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Not trying to be a smartazz, but shouldn't your orders state that? I did some googlefoo with not very good results. Check out the Marines.mil website and search from there.

Something you are going to have to start learning to do anyway (research LOL).

[Eagle03]

Intel would be a very good job, but as good as it is, i reallyyyy want to go combat support, artillery. Should i go with my gut as artillery? or am i making a bad decision. Any advice would help :)

[Sgt Leprechaun]

I need to see a better profile...but not bad. Go with what YOU want to do.

[DangerBoyd89]

I have a question regarding CI.

Would any of you agree or disagree that lat-moving into CI can/will put a strain on a marriage and why? And how often/long are the deployment time frames?

I am looking into lat-moving into CI, because I know the background and training will help me get into the FBI. But my husband insists I just go into Reserves or do CID.

most likely you will deploy at least three times in your first four years as a CI/HUMINT marine. If you have a good score on the DLB 115-135 range you will most likely be allowed to attend DLI after one or two deployments and that would put you and hubbie in Monterrey for a good 18 months or so.

[Eagle03]

Thanks Sgt I know what i gotta do now. Artillery, here we go

[PooleeLyons]

Needs someone to talk to about Intelligence, definitely a choice that i am considering.

[pmaziii]

There is an organization called the Marine Corps Interrogator Translator Teams Association. They meet once a year to hash over old times. Their website is

http://www.mcitta.org/

[Krapdavid]

I just enlisted and am going to do intel specialist. I was wondering what an intel specialist would do. For example, infantry knocks down doors and do grunt work. I have tried to look for some more information on this and have yet to find a good answer.

[pmaziii]

I wish I was up to date on what an intel specialist is today. My time was long ago, and I'm sure the mos has changed a lot since then.

Good luck.

[E4O]

I just enlisted and am going to do intel specialist. I was wondering what an intel specialist would do. For example, infantry knocks down doors and do grunt work. I have tried to look for some more information on this and have yet to find a good answer.

I've worked with a couple of intel specialists (0231's) at my unit. Most of them sit in the Command Operations Center collecting information on the battle space, briefing the CO and other sections, researching and analyzing reports and data collected.

[Lockinour]

I just got my mos for me to be a basic intelligence Marine.....what's next?

[0211 Gunny]

I've worked with a couple of intel specialists (0231's) at my unit. Most of them sit in the Command Operations Center collecting information on the battle space, briefing the CO and other sections, researching and analyzing reports and data collected.
In addition, they produce finished intelligence products - intelligence digests, summaries, updates, country studies, etc. - while working with their peers in the Intelligence Community (IC) as well as evaluate the raw Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) from the field. If they require additional information for an intel product that they are working on, they can request tasking from SIGINT, HUMINT, or other INTs for support. They don't always hang out in the Joint Intelligence Center (JIC). If a '31 is a regional specialist, they have the opportunity to travel in country to expand their knowledge of the area, culture, and customs by interacting with the Defense Attaché Offices (DAOs) of the nations they visit. They also attend seminars and working groups to further their understanding of whatever threat they are focusing on.

[CWLAURENT]

Was just reading through this post and I noticed the 26XX Field isnt really brought up to much. When you get your Intel contract you are not designated 26XX or 0231 untill you get to bootcamp. There the screener talks to you and figures out where to put you. The 26XX fields are are smaller, more selective, and more technical field the 0231's. Just something for people to think about.

[Lockinour]

how do they decide?

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Based, quite likely, on certain scores in your ASVAB, things like that.

[CWLAURENT]

Sgt Leprechaun is quite correct in that they base it off your ASVAB. Your electronics and mathmatics are the most important. However there are quite a bit of other factors that come into play. Manning is a huge once since there are fewer slots to be a 26XX. Personal preference also comes into play. If you are a 0231 you are pretty much guarenteed to be stuck at a desk. However as a 26XX is is about 25% chance to be stuck at a desk. The majority of our job field is field work. So it kind of depends if the candidate wants to be safe and comfy at a desk or forward deployed and dirty.

[Lockinour]

I got a 61 on the asvab and my gt score was103 do you think it would be possible for me to be 26XX material

[CWLAURENT]

Ill be very honest..That is a bit lower than the majority of 26XX operators. However with that being said it is not a no. If you have the DD acceptence going into BootCamp then you have a chance. If you go into the screener and say you want to be a 2621/2631/2651 then there is a chance you can get assigned it. Most people go into boot not knowing what they want to do. Plus school in Florida is better than Virginia anyways.

[Lockinour]

and the 26XX are more so in the field right?

[CWLAURENT]

Yeah they are more in the field just because of the nature of our job. Very few of us have the title analyst and even then it is focused on a very specific topic. Most times you will be either an operator or a collector so yes if you choose the 26XX route expect to be in the field more.

[Lockinour]

and what exactly is the difference between 26XX and the 0231's. Job-wise if yu done mind me asking

[CWLAURENT]

0231s are intelligence analysts who take all intell and come to conclusions and stuff like that. 26XX it depends which you are. The majority of what we can do cannot be passed over unclassified systems however if you go to usmilitary.about.com and type in the 2621, 2631, and 2651 MOS it should give you a bit more of an explination.

[Lockinour]

thank you very much

[EgressExpert]

Puttin in a package for 0241 Latmove now. Any good info on the process?

[PooleeFuller]

I scored a 96 on my ASVAB with a gt score of 135.. With those numbers I was told am eligible for most if not all jobs within the Marines. And my recruiter said that is I get 100 or better on the DLAB there is an opening for linguistics intel. Is this a good route to go if I want to be able to travel and work in the field? Or would this likely sit me behind a desk for most of my career?

[sabrillo]

[quote=CWLAURENT;826326]Was just reading through this post and I noticed the 26XX Field isnt really brought up to much. When you get your Intel contract you are not designated 26XX or 0231 untill you get to bootcamp. There the screener talks to you and figures out where to put you. The 26XX fields are are smaller, more selective, and more technical field the 0231's. Just something for people to think about.[/quote

Hello. This is my first post so please bear with me. My son is at MCRD currently and has a contract for intel. He called several times yesterday to get information to finish doing the paperwork on his background investigation and informed me that he got 2651 as his MOS and he was pretty upset. He was expecting an 02xx mos instead. I have been researching his MOS since yesterday and think that this is about as good as I can find. I did look at the syllabus and it seems that there is alot, if not all about computers. I was glad to read that this MOS is not all about sitting behind a desk as I am sure that it'll be some consolation to him. If there anything more you can add about 2651, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[JWG]

Puttin in a package for 0241 Latmove now. Any good info on the process?

Same traffic, except that I am looking to lat move to 0231. There is a wonderful thread already out concerning the process for initial entry from boot camp to the fleet, but I haven't seen much about the lateral move process from currently enlisted Marines.

I'd love to hear more about what to expect and any tips to help me out in the process. :thumbup:

[miramontes]

What is the required score for Intel Specialist?

[sabrillo]

GT 100
AFQT score of 50
Eligible for TS clearance
No drugs or conduct abuse
US Citizen (no waivers) All member s of immed family must also be US citizens.

And depending on all other scores and the needs of the the MC, while you are in bootcamp, someone will determine if you are placed as an 02xx or a 26xx. Mine wanted 02 but scored high in electronics so he got 26. He's happy, but is coming up on the end of his 5 year contract and will be getting out.

[ebsmart]

wrong you just need a score in the system if you score high it quals you for a crypto linguist job