View Full Version : Military brass hit Kennedy for saying war is 'quagmire'

06-24-05, 03:30 PM
Military brass hit Kennedy for saying war is 'quagmire'
By Rowan Scarborough
Published June 24, 2005

The nation's top military leaders clashed with Sen. Edward M. Kennedy yesterday, challenging his assertion that the Iraq war has descended into a Vietnam-like "quagmire."
At a high-powered Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, Vice President Dick Cheney's recent assessment that the insurgency was in its "final throes" seemed to be contradicted by the top general in the region.
The Massachusetts Democrat prompted a show of support for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld after the senator again called for his resignation.
"Secretary Rumsfeld, you know we are in serious trouble in Iraq," Mr. Kennedy said. "This war has been consistently and grossly mismanaged," Mr. Kennedy added. "And we are now in a seemingly intractable quagmire. Our troops are dying, and there really is no end in sight."
Mr. Kennedy then listed what he considered a series of misjudgments, such as underestimating the insurgency and failing to provide enough armor, and then asked, "Isn't it time for you to resign?"
Mr. Rumsfeld, flanked at the witness table by three four-star generals, rebutted each point.
"I will say that the idea that what's happening over there is a quagmire is so fundamentally inconsistent with the facts," he said. "The reality is that they are making political progress without question."
Army Gen. George Casey then injected himself into the debate.
"As the commander in Iraq, I would like to put myself on the record, Senator Kennedy, as saying that I also agree with the secretary that to represent the situation in Iraq as a quagmire is a misrepresentation of the facts," Gen. Casey said. "Senator, that is not a quagmire."
Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, Joint Chiefs chairman, added, "It's clearly not a quagmire. ... The term has been used loosely, and it's not accurate in my estimation."
Mr. Rumsfeld's top commander in the region, Army Gen. John Abizaid, then offered his vote of confidence in the secretary.
"When it comes to toughness and stick-to-itiveness and fighting the enemy the way they need to be fought, I'm standing by the secretary," he said.
The sharp exchange came on a day when the Bush administration sent its biggest guns to Capitol Hill to defend an Iraq war policy that is losing support among Americans and a smattering of Republicans.
Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, the committee's top Democrat, used the hearing to try to expose a split between the White House and Gen. Abizaid.
Mr. Levin asked whether the general thought the insurgency was in its "last throes," as Mr. Cheney said in a CNN interview last month.
"In terms of the overall strength of the insurgency, I'd say it was the same as it was" six months ago, Gen. Abizaid replied.


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06-24-05, 04:03 PM
Senator Kennedy's perception of the facts is blinded by his pure hatred of President Bush. Time to send that fat horse out to pasture!

06-24-05, 07:33 PM
Send a fifth of Jack Daniels with him and the lush will be happy. He is a dinasaur and needs to be put out (of his misery) to pasture. The ONLY reason this fatass stayed in politics as long as he has is because of his LAST name and his money.

He is a dickhead just like his buddy durbin.


rick taylor
06-25-05, 12:06 PM
Would love to have fatass in my sights. then the crows have at him. Semper Fi

06-25-05, 05:16 PM
I'm glad the Gen's spoke up. Shows they know what right, and they understand the fight. Kennedy is so out of the picture he's just rambling on at this point. Let him talk, when he speaks even the Dems shake there heads in shame. I have nothing against the Left, I actually think some have good agendas and should be where they are, but its the ones like Ted and his club that makes them all look like idiots.

Just my thoughts.

Sgt J.