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Since1775
05-08-05, 05:21 PM
I received this email from a friend today. They know that I believe in The Corps, God and My Country.

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The Omission from the New W.W.II Memorial

Today I went to visit the New World War II Memorial in Washington, DC. I got an unexpected history lesson. Since I'm a baby boomer, I was one of the youngest in the crowd. Most were the age of my parents, veterans of "the greatest war" with their families. It was a beautiful day, and people were smiling and happy to be there. Hundreds of us milled around the memorial, reading the inspiring words of Ike and Truman that are engraved there.

On the Pacific side of the memorial, a group of us gathered to read the words President Roosevelt used to announce the attack on Pearl Harbor: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941-- a date which will live in infamy--the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked."

One woman read the words aloud:

" With confidence in our armed forces, with the un bounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph."

But as she read, she was suddenly angry. "Wait a minute," she said.

"They left out the end of the quote. They left out the most important part. Roosevelt said: "so help us God."

"You're probably right," her husband said. "We're not supposed to say things like that now."

"I know I'm right," she insisted. "I remember the speech" The two shook their heads sadly and walked away.

Listening to their conversation, I thought to myself, "Well, it has been 50 years. She's probably forgotten."

But she was right.

I went home and pulled out the book my book club is reading. It's "Flags of Our Fathers" by James Bradley. It's all about Iwo Jima. I haven't gotten too far in the book. It's tough to read because it's a graphic description of the battles in the Pacific.

But right there it was on page 58. Roosevelt's speech to the nation it ends "so help us God."

The people who edited out that part of the speech when they engraved it on the memorial could have fooled me. I was born after the war. But they couldn't fool the people who were there. Roosevelt's words are engraved on their hearts.

WHO GAVE THEM THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF HISTORY?????????

Send this around to your friends. People need to know before everyone forgets.

People today are trying to change the history of America by leaving God out of it, but the truth is, God has been a part of this nation, since the beginning. He still wants to be...

If you agree, pass this on.

yellowwing
05-08-05, 06:50 PM
Those pushing "Fear the Ungodly" are pulling your leg on this one.

From Snopes Urban Legends (http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/memorial.asp), the transcript of this Roosevelt speech references God three paragraphs after the inscribed section.


No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people, in their righteous might, will win through to absolute victory.

I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph, so help us God.


...and why should we fear the ungodly while we still have our United States Marines backing up His Rod and Staff?

covan
05-08-05, 07:17 PM
Thanks, yellowwing, for setting the record straight.

covan

greensideout
05-08-05, 07:35 PM
Well, it would seem to me that the most important and memorable part of the speech was simply what she remembered best. "So help us God". Our country back then was asking for God's help in the war as we should be today.

yanacek
05-08-05, 08:06 PM
Can anyone out there verify if this is correct that FDR's words "So help us God" were omitted from the memorial? If so, I want to contact those responsible for the omission. I'm just concerned that this may be an "Internet myth."

Semper Fi,
yanacek

yanacek
05-08-05, 08:16 PM
Just noticed the link above. Thanks yellowwing.

Semper Fi,
Robert

Since1775
05-08-05, 08:57 PM
I should have researched before I posted. I apologize for this.

However if you look at this article from the Washington Times.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040603-112811-6730r.htm

However the truth is…

Only a very short excerpt from President Roosevelt's speech is inscribed on the National World War II Memorial. The sentence that ends "so help us God" wasn't edited to remove those final four words — the phrase "so help us God" isn't there because the sentence that contains it doesn't appear on the memorial at all. The words inscribed on the memorial were taken from a completely different sentence delivered earlier in the speech, which is reproduced in its entirety.

Here is the complete text of President Roosevelt's 8 December 1941 address to Congress:

Yesterday, December 7, 1941 — a date which will live in infamy — the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

The United States was at peace with that nation, and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its government and its Emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific.

Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese Ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to our Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. And, while this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese Government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition, American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday the Japanese Government also launched an attack against Malaya.
Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.
Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam.
Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.
Last night the Japanese attacked Wake Island.
And this morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has therefore undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense, that always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people, in their righteous might, will win through to absolute victory.

http://www.archivedpatents.com/speech.jpg

greensideout
05-08-05, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Since1775
I should have researched before I posted. I apologize for this.

However if you look at this article from the Washington Times.

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040603-112811-6730r.htm

However the truth is…
The sentence that ends "so help us God" wasn't edited to remove those final four words — the phrase "so help us God" isn't there because the sentence that contains it doesn't appear on the memorial at all.


But It Should, "so help us God".

yellowwing
05-08-05, 11:46 PM
Its does not effectively matter. As long as some are willing to do what is right, the Corps is full of them, it will be alright.

What kind of bargain was God willing to deal with the grandfather Lot, to save Sodom and Gemorrah? A mere handful.

Now we have this giant media machine geared towards doubting faith and projecting fear.