Marine Impostor

[Namvet67]

A Marine friend of mine who works at a local club as a personal security officer came in contact with a young man wearing Marine cammies and Captain bars. After the usual Semper Fi exchanges he noticed that the "Marine" was not wearing a regulation cover and upon closer inspection his uniform was not up to Marine standards as far as clean goes....so his Marine ID was asked for and he said he didn't have it with him so my friend started in on him and after a few harsh exchanges the young man left. It appears he was in the club trying to pick up some girls. QUESTION: What action can be taken against the poser? Any boy know the regs on this?

[Phantom Blooper]

http://www.stevenlwaterman.com/steve/laws.html



ATTENTION LIARS AND FAKES!
These are the laws pertaining to the illegal wearing/sale/manufacture of decorations and medals, and the laws governing the illegal wearing of the uniform of the United States Military.

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Title 18 United States Code

Sec. 702. Uniform of the armed services and Public Health Service

Whoever, in any place within the jurisdiction of the United States or in the Canal Zone, without authority, wears the uniform, or a distinctive part thereof or anything similar to a distinctive part of the uniform of any of the armed services of the United States, Public Health Service or any auxiliary of such, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

Sec. 704. Military Medals or Decorations

(a) In General. - Whoever knowingly wears, manufactures, or sells any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(b) Congressional Medal of Honor. - (The FBI takes this quite seriously) SLW

(1) In general. - If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) is a Congressional Medal of Honor, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

(2) Definitions. - (A) As used in subsection (a) with respect to a Congressional Medal of Honor, "sells" includes trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value.

(B) As used in this subsection, "Congressional Medal of Honor" means a medal awarded under section 2741, 6241 or 8741 of Title 10.

Author's commentary:

Regarding 18 U.S.C. Sec. 702 and 704(a):

18 U.S.C. Sec. 3559(a)(7) provides that an offense having a maximum assessable term of confinement of more than 30 days and less than 6 months is a Class B misdemeanor.

18 U.S.C. Sec. 3571(b)(6) provides that the maximum fine for a Class B misdemeanor not resulting in death is $5,000 per count on which the Defendant is convicted.

Regarding 18 U.S.C. Sec. 704(b):

18 U.S.C. Sec. 3559(a)(6) provides that an offense having a maximum assessable term of confinement of more than six months and less than one year is a Class A misdemeanor.

18 U.S.C. Sec. 3571(b)(5) provides that the maximum fine for a Class A misdemeanor not resulting in death is $100,000 per count on which the Defendant is convicted.

Author's commentary is Copyright 1999, Charles F. Wilkins, III. Permission is hereby given to freely redistribute this document as part of an effort to discover and expose phony "war heroes" or to reduce the illegal trade in United States military medals and decorations provided that copies so reproduced or redistributed carry this copyright notice in its entirety without alteration. Reproduction or redistribution for any other purpose, whether in whole or in part, without the prior written consent of Charles F. Wilkins, III, is prohibited. No copyright is asserted in the quoted text of original U.S. government works.

[Phantom Blooper]

http://www.thesakeofargument.com/archives/000635.html (http://)

[Namvet67]

Thanks Phantom Blooper...that's what i was looking for! I will pass it on. Gary

[Ed Palmer]

I reinstalled this for Phantom Blooper his wouldnt open right
hope you dont mind

http://www.thesakeofargument.com/archives/000635.html

[Phantom Blooper]

Thank You! S/F Chuck Hall

[Namvet67]

Thanks Ed....interesting info in there! Gary

[RLeon]

How come when ever you approach one of these posers they are alway's "top secret" and can't give yoy any info...friggin liars...that's what happevned with Frank Dux...you guys probably know about him...Jean Claude Van Dam palyed him in the movie "Blood Sport". In the book "Stolen Valor" the author B G Burkett exposed this guy as a fraud..Dux claimed to be some kind of super Marine when the author investigated Dux he found no such records. Of coarse Dux was involved in "top secret" missions. The whole movie is a lie. I can't stress enough how importan 'Stolen Valor' is. It is a must read, it exposes tons of posers from Vietnam and dispells most of the lies fed to us since then.

[Phantom Blooper]

April 05,2005
STAFF REPORT






B.G. Burkett, author of "Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of its Heroes and Its History," will visit Onslow and Carteret counties to answer questions, sign books and talk about what he calls, "the denigration of a generation of warriors who were among the finest America ever produced."

"Stolen Valor," the 1998 William E. Colby Award winner for "Outstanding Military Book," provides evidence that conventional wisdom about Vietnam Veterans is simply wrong.

Media portrayals of Vietnam Veterans, says Burkett, "have denigrated the service, patriotism, and gallantry of the best warriors America ever produced."

Burkett will visit the Marine Corps Association book store in the Camp Lejeune Exchange Annex Friday from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. and Sywanyks Scarlet and Gold Traditions, 222 Henderson Dr. in Jacksonville, at 6 that night. He'll spend Saturday from 1:30 to 3 p.m. at the Western Carteret Public Library and visit the Leon Mann Senior Center in Morehead City at 7 that night.

Burkett, a Texas businessman, was assigned by then Governor George W. Bush to head the Texas Vietnam War Memorial fund. He has been the object of an award-winning segment on ABC's "20/20," as well as articles in Texas Monthly and Reader's Digest. He is a graduate of Vanderbilt University and the University of Tennessee. Burkett served in Vietnam with the 199th Light Infantry Brigade, and was awarded the Bronze Star Medal, Vietnamese Honor Medal and Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry with Palm.

The sponsors of the visits include The Talk Station, Marine Corps Association, Carteret County Vietnam Veterans and Veterans Services.


For information, call 451-7500 regarding the Lejeune visit; 347-1106 for Sywanyks; (252) 393-6500 for the library; and Rip Collins at (252) 247-6065 or Hank Gotard at (252) 728-8440 for Morehead City.

[Namvet67]

Every red blooded male wants to be a Marine! Some get their wish and some could have but made the choice not to.....other's earned the title only in their mind....and those are the one's that could never have made it! Semper Fi

[mrbsox]

It would be interesting to know if the Utilities he was in were 'woodland' or the new 'MARPAT' digitals.

I'm sure the woodlands can be found at most surplus stores, or even online, but the MARPAT's are still rare. There are copies out there, but they are not the same.

I have a set of the (coveted) MARPATs that hang in the closet, but that is ALL they do.
And 'irish pennant' free I might add !! :) :marine:

[Namvet67]

mrbsox....doubt that he will return to the club after he was confronted by 2 Marines on duty that night! The senior Marine was a former DI and did a tour in Nam. The junior Marine on duty did a tour in Iraq. Semper Fi

[Devildogg4ever]

I'm sure if he does, it will be taken care of!!