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01-25-05, 10:52 AM
Female Cammies Available
Submitted by: Marine Corps Systems Command
Story Identification #: 2005124135011
Story by Ms. Shakinta M. Johnston

QUANTICO, Va (Jan 24, 2005) -- Female Marines will now have the option to procure specific female sized combat utility uniforms designed to improve fit and function for them if they are dissatisfied with the fit of the current uniform. Beginning the week of Jan. 24, 2005, all clothing sales stores will begin stocking six new cammie blouse and seven new trouser sizes that specifically accommodate most female Marines in areas where fit and function issues are most frequently found.

The female cammie sizes should be found in the clothing sales stores where other female clothing items are located, space permitting. Female Marines who are satisfied with the fit of their cammies have nothing to fear. The female sizes are additional sizes and will not change the availability or design of current unisex sizes.

Fit and wear testing with female Marines found the new cammie sizing eliminate the common fit problems outlined in the illustration. Female cammie benefits are achieved by adjusting the garments to female proportions that basically remove extra material where it is not needed in the current sizes and adding it where needed.

GySgt. Angelique Downs, Quantico, appreciates the impact that sizing adjustments have on uniform performance.

“The changes in sizes and eliminating the excess material seemed to result in more effective field, PT, and everyday work performance,” says Downs. “There was no getting ‘around’ the extra fabric in the crotch and back. The focus was on the job performance and not simply dealing with bulky excess.”

Downs is not the only Marine who welcomed improvements brought by the female cammies. Cpl Mary Simmons, Quantico, was one of several female Marines who participated in a fit/wear test. Before trying the female cammies, Simmons found her unisex cammies were “too large for her” and sizing was very difficult. With the female cammies, she reported utilities that made her “look like a Marine and not a kid playing dress up”.

“I would definitely buy a set of female sized cammies if made available,” says Simmons. “They are great!”

Simmons is one of ninety percent (90%) of the test females who preferred the improved comfort, ease of movement, and more professional appearance afforded by the female sized cammies while providing identical uniform features. To avoid confusion between the female sized cammies and the current unisex sizes, females will need to get used to the new size designation.


Different size labeling was adopted for the female cammies and will always begin with a number followed by length abbreviation. New sizes for female cammie blouses are 32 XS, 32 S, 35 XS, 35 S, 35 R and 39 S. New sizes for female cammie trousers are 24 XS, 24 S, 28 XS, 28 S, 28 R, 32 XS, and 32 S.

In the new female uniform sizing, the number replaces the current Xsmall (XS), Small (S), and Medium (M) size label where the number represents the midpoint of the range of body measurements that the garment size will fit for chest or waist circumference. The letter that follows the number is the same length designation of Xshort (-XS), Short (-S), and Regular (-R) found in the current sizing.

To help female Marines get started with identifying the new size female item, a uniform size conversion table was developed to provide guidance. Female Marines should look at the table below to see where there is an alternative female size next to the current unisex size. If females know their body measurements, they can also look at the top of the care label inside the garment to select a size where their measurements fall within the dimension range printed for size prediction.

The old adage of “If the shoe fits…” applies perfectly here. Female Marines must try the cammies on to determine the best fitting new size alternative and then choose their preference for the new female size garments or stay with the current size in whole or part. It is okay to mix and match garment sizes. During testing, the best fit for some females consisted of a mix of female size and current size among the two cammie garments, such as female size blouse and current unisex trouser or vice versa. The purpose of the new cammie sizes is to achieve better fit for improved comfort and ease of movement for females that is comparable to the fit males experience with the current cammies.

Female cammies aren't the only impending improvements. Female sized boots will be added in Spring 2005. Approximately 28 sizes (4-11) are being added in the Hot Weather, Infantry Combat, and Steel Toe boots. More information about female boots will be reported as availability of items at store approaches.

If you have questions on the female sized items, contact one of the following:
Email cammie inquiries to Deirdre.Townes@us.army.mil. Email female boot inquiries to marlee.foster@usmc.mil.

Female Marines are finally being given the opportunity to be issued and buy combat uniforms and footwear that better accommodate female proportions after years of having to fit into men’s clothing. This issue is not new but an implementation of successful development that was initiated after the September 2002 female uniform symposium, which directed improved fit of critical items for our female Marines to be fit to fight.


New Female Cammie--Size Conversion Guide to map changes from old cammie blouse and trouser to new uniform sizes.

Photo by: Illustration by Marine Corps Systems Command


Female Sizes Fix Fit Problems:
• Unprofessional appearance
• Frequent uniform readjustment
• Bunching under combat gear
• Bagginess in upper back
• Impair ease of movement
• Big waist to fit hips
• Long crotch
• "V" separation at blouse bottom
• Overweight misperception

Photo by: Illustration by Marine Corps Systems Command


01-25-05, 11:36 AM

01-26-05, 06:44 PM
WAY TO MANY comments could be made---good choice snipowsky---LMAO.

01-26-05, 07:31 PM
Where's SparrowHawk when you need him :banana:

01-30-05, 01:35 AM

I'll take the old cammies any day.

01-30-05, 01:37 AM
You don't HAVE to wear the new cammies, they are just another option for the women so they can look just as good as the guys in their cammies.

01-30-05, 01:44 PM
Yeah...I always had a problem with too much fabric here...not enough there...etc.


01-30-05, 10:57 PM
I agree with you on that one Jenna, I was always kinda uncomfy with the old cammies, hopefully when I get back in I can get some of those. And the boot sizes...its about time....

01-30-05, 11:43 PM
Yes - I agree on the boots. I wore a mens 4-1/2 which were pushing the limits. For women with smaller feet, it was pure agony.

Ok - it's a good thing.

02-06-05, 12:32 PM
New female size cammies hit shelves
Submitted by: MCB Quantico
Story Identification #: 20052410534
Story by Lance Cpl. Sha'an Williams

MARINE CORPS BASE QUANTICO, Va. (Feb. 3, 2005) -- After much anticipation, new combat utility uniforms designed to fit the female form became available Marine Corps wide Thursday.

Currently, only the Desert Marine Pattern Utilities are available at cash sales.

The issue of a utility uniform specifically designed for women was raised at a symposium to address the concerns of female Marines in September 2002.

Some problems commonly found with the unisex cammies were:
· Unprofessional appearance
· Frequent uniform adjustment
· Bunching under combat gear
· Bagginess in upper back
· Impaired ease of movement
· Big waist
· Long crotch
· “V” separation at blouse bottom
· Misperception of being overweight

Marine Corps System Command has addressed those concerns and improved the cammies to now achieve a better fit for comfort and ease of movement for females.

“The new uniforms look identical to the current ones, but are cut to female proportions to accommodate a woman’s more narrow shoulders and waist, and wider hips,” said Dee Townes, Marine Corps Combat Uniform project officer at MARCORSYSCOM. “We took away excess material from places it wasn’t needed and put it where it was needed.”

“The new cammies were not designed to accentuate the female physique in any way. They are for working,” said Townes.

Once the new cammies were available to be tested, 100 women were selected to wear them for 30 days. Approximately 90 percent of the women tested said they preferred the female cammies to the unisex ones.

“I am 4 feet 8 inches tall, and the old cammies made me feel like I was playing dress-up to look like a Marine,” said Cpl. Mary A. Simmons, fit test participant. “The old cammies made me feel like I was wearing a sack because of the excess material. The new cammies look better and make working easier,” she said.

Appearance is not the only factor female Marines took into account when they thought about how to improve the cammies. “The changes in sizes and eliminating the excess material seemed to result in more effective field, physical training, and everyday work performance,” said Gunnery Sgt. Angelicque Downs, Support Equipment project officer. “There was no getting around the extra fabric that the unisex cammies had in the crotch and back. The focus was on the job performance and simply not dealing with bulky excess.”

The female blouse and trouser sizes are labeled differently than the unisex cammies. They range from 32 extra small to 25 regular and 39 small. In addition, seven new trousers sizes, from 24 extra small to 32 regular, are now available.

Female Marines can look at the conversion table below to find the female sized cammies equivalent to the unisex cammies.

If the body measurements are known they can look at the top of the care label inside the garment to select a size where their measurements fall within the dimension range printed for each size.


Capt. Paula McNair tries on the new female sized cammies at Quantico clothing sales. McNair didn’t think she would notice a difference between the unisex and female cammies, but after trying them on, she noticed a difference. “They feel good!” she said. Photo by: Lance Cpl. Sha'ahn Williams


02-10-05, 01:19 AM
This is awesome. We've come along way and we're still growing. Semper FI my fellow Lady Leathernecks!