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Sgtj
01-07-05, 07:31 PM
I know I’m not a poolee but I have some question and I thought what better place to get it then from my brothers and sisters.

Let’s get to it. I want to get into federal law enforcement. Since leaving the Marine Corps in 2002, I have done an array of things from working for Defense Security Service (processing clearances as a case analyst), to what I am doing know, working for Northrop Grumman Ship systems, in the IE department. I know this is a different path, but when I first began college my major was IE and I got this gig as a temp intern that turned part/full time while in school. I graduate next spring with a BS in Business Management and I am hoping to go immediately into the FBI.

I was wondering if anyone on here knew any contacts or had any information that might be helpful to me. I’ve tried contacting the local FBI but have had know luck as of yet.

Semper Fi,

Sgt J

:marine:

JAG5150
01-07-05, 07:35 PM
I believe that the FBI has a web site, don't know what it is though. Why the FBI?

HardJedi
01-07-05, 07:35 PM
hmnnn. well the federal officers training school is somewhere in GA, Cumberland or something like that I think.


you could try contacting them, or looking up thier websites.

Sgtj
01-07-05, 07:37 PM
LoL,

come on guys, I am a Marines. I did do some research be for turning to you all.

I was hoping to speak with somone here about it, maybe get an inside view.

Thanks for the advice though.

JAG5150
01-07-05, 07:56 PM
I was with the U.S.M.S. for a few years, I see if I can contact some old friends and find out anything for you.

troop901
01-07-05, 07:57 PM
Well sgtj, you would need to contact your local FBI office and then they could inform you on what you need to do. I believe the FBI academy is located in Virginia, but the secret service uniform division acadamy is located in Georgia as hardjedi pointed out. If your local FBI office show's no interest then move on to some other agency.
SF and good luck.

Sgtj
01-07-05, 08:01 PM
Thanks Marines.

rsta
01-08-05, 05:15 AM
The Federal Law Enforcement Center, FLETC as they call it, is located here in Brunswick, Georgia. It is located on what used to be NAS Glynco. I don't know who all is trained here, I've heard everyone in the federal agencies but the FBI.

TRLewis
01-08-05, 06:48 AM
I would look into border patrol, or marshalls. but i dont think either are hiding. But if excitement is what you want go with the marshalls

woodman
01-08-05, 10:36 AM
If you only need an app. the nearest federal court house may have them. your best bet may be to go to the closest FBI field office, they may find 1 for you just to send you on your way. If you want to work out in the field right out of the academy I would choose another agency. They make you a paper grunt for 1-2 years to earn being out of the office. Hope this helps

yellowwing
01-08-05, 11:07 AM
I don't know squat about this issue. I did meet a FBI guy in Quantico once.

I asked him if he was good with a weapon, and his eyes glazed over into that killer stare and he said, "Very."

Spooked the hell out of me!

Sgtj
01-08-05, 11:34 AM
I know a lot about this all ready and most of you have some good advice. FLETC is located in GA. But the FBI does all there training in Quantico.
I've thought about the other programs and although I have not discounted them, when you look at each one of their respective missions (future missions) I think the FBI is right for me. I know I am going to have to do paper work but, I think the FBI is the one that will challange me both mentally and physically. I have some buddies that are in different programs, they went in straight out of the Marines. I on the other hand went to school, and not to make it sound cocky, going to the uniform divisions of other branches is just not an option. I could have done that 4 years ago.

Either way I have made contact with my local FBI office and I have done tons of research. I am just looking at other helpful hints on the process. To be honest I thought somone on here might have been an SA.
Thanks again ya'll.

Semper Fi.
Sgt. J

yellowwing
01-08-05, 11:46 AM
Agent Sgtj, that sounds right! Get some, make it happen. :)

Sgtj
01-08-05, 12:08 PM
Yellowwing,

Jolly is my last name... but its ok The Marines had fun with it too, all the way until I got Sergeant, then I had all the fun.

On pick up day in bootcamp, my heavy was running up and down the lines, he stopped at my footlocker, looked down, looked up at me, looked down again, paused and said, "JOLLY, HUH!, WELL! YOUR NOT GONNA BE." Whenever the SDI wanted me or it was my turn to go play on the quarterdeck, they would yell TIS THE SEASON, and I would have to report.... I had fun with it then... my wife loves it, at much surprise to me? Her full name is now Wendy B. Jolly... Thanks though Yellowing.

SF
Keith

woodman
01-08-05, 01:12 PM
Hey J

a couple of things that will definately help with the bureau are accounting classes and procedural law, the type you would take to get your JD, I just talked to a buddy working for a fed drug task force and according to him if you don't like the bureau you can lateral to DEA. not sure how but it's an option for future considerations. Good luck

Sgtj
01-08-05, 01:34 PM
Thanks Woodman,

Thats the type of information I'm looking for. One of my old PC's is in the FBI, I'm trying to contact him.

TRLewis
01-08-05, 01:40 PM
I've worked with secret service, marshalls, and local law enforcement. None of them have respect for the FBI, they do some really good things, but they are more reactive as opposed to active in preventing crimes. They are more of paperwork warriors than actually killers. The FBI hostage rescue team is not included in those statements

I would go with marshalls if I didnt have other plans. They have a tough job, i think they're great. Like I always told people, if I took hostages and they said the FBI was coming in I would yell back, "Come on." If they said the marshalls were coming I would give up.

Sgtj
01-08-05, 01:47 PM
Thats interesting TRLewis, I guess I don't think of that way. I still have a year left, most of the agencies aren't hiring right now, or at least the information I received says that. I might try to go S.S as a SA, when I got out of the Marines in 2002, I tried the UD, but my BP pressure seemed to be an issue, I made it through all the interviews ans polys but then it just faded away, they wouldn't even tell me any other information. That didn't leave a good taste in my mouth for them, but I took it as a blessing because I went right into college and now I will have my bachelors. Your right though, I don't have disrepsect for any of them, but I am keeping my options open.

Keith

Osotogary
01-08-05, 02:01 PM
What ever happened to the Air Marshall Program? That was a hot item at one time.

woodman
01-08-05, 02:59 PM
they have been on a terminal hiring freeze for 16-18 months and have Tons of internal problems. Wouldn't be suprised if another agency absorbes them. not a good career choice. for a while.

yellowwing
01-08-05, 03:56 PM
Like I said, you know what to do to make it happen! They need good recruits like a Marine Veteran.

sadibenz
01-08-05, 04:03 PM
Call me or send e-mail
sadibenz@cox.net
619-977-2371
Canine Enforcent Officer
U.S. Customs and Border Protection
San Diego, ca.
Also check Http://USAJOBS.com
Everything is a long process. I can help you out if you contact me. At least put you onto someone.:banana:

CAR
01-08-05, 04:11 PM
sgtj,
Give me PM sometime with some Q's if you want. Prior Fed, maybe I can answer some Q's for ya.

Sgtj
01-08-05, 04:15 PM
Thanks Sadibenz,

I sent you an email.

Semper Fi.

sadibenz
01-08-05, 04:40 PM
Sent you an e-mail just now.
Got your machine.

sadibenz
01-09-05, 01:34 AM
Okay Bro,
All set,
sent you alot of info via: e-mail.
Good luck.
Call me anytime if you need to talk. My cell is 24 hrs and my e-mail is always there.:banana:

Sgtj
01-09-05, 01:52 AM
Sadibenz,

Thanks I got all the information. I will keep you updated. The same goes to you. The lines are always open.

I know this goes without saying but I knew I could find the help here.

Semper fi brother.

Keith

TRLewis
01-09-05, 07:54 AM
Remember this one thing as a federal employee. WATCH YOUR ASS. When you get involved with them, your fellow employees can throw a lawsuit at you for practically anything. Its 10 times worse than the...

yellowwing
01-09-05, 08:19 AM
You got to thnk outside of the cover-your-ass box. The CO really does not want to hear this crap from civilian secretaries.

Its a lose-lose-lose sutiatuon for you, the civilian, and the CO.

On a positive note, I don't think any Airbronve Regiment has this problem, GET SOME!!

Toby M
01-09-05, 10:52 AM
Just goes to prove that Marines don't make good politicians, social workers or a** kissers! It is extremely hard to find work in the federal government where one is allowed to do nothing else but their work. You have to be aware of hurting someone's feelings with your actions, language and attitude! God forbid you should have to hurt someone (let alone take a life) during the course of your duties...

SgtDvlDog3
01-10-05, 01:36 AM
SgtJ,
Okay here goes. As a retired local law enforcement officer I can tell you that among the real ground pounders, there really is not alot of respect for the FBI. Now don't believe for a second that I or any of my brothers or sisters wouldn't back them up if they were in trouble, but when it comes to police work they really aren't glamorous. Local officers respond to Bank Robberies (which is a federal offense) do all the investigation, forensics then the FBI shows up and takes the work from them and doesn't give them a thank you. There legal powers are so bogged down in red tape and politics they quickly sink in the muck of the job. Unless it's a class A or B felony being committed in front of them they can't take action to stop it or face disciplinary action. It takes an act of God to arrest then prosecute anyone. Look at what happened to the female FBI agent who had the skill to figure out that something was up with Z. Massaoui training how to fly a plane but not how to land or take off. She was rebuked at the highest levels and you see what happened. If you really want a federal L/E job look at the U.S. Marshals, DEA or my favorite is State Department Diplomatic Security Service (DSS). You can either get into passport/visa fraud or into the Regional Security Officer (RSO) field and be the civilian boss of Marine Security Guard Detachments at U.S. Embassies and Consulates. They are really involved now with investigations on the counter-terrorism front. Let me know if you have any questions.