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Sparrowhawk
11-29-04, 08:04 PM
Now, women, will be able to tell when we're lying, not that I would lie to a woman. lOl


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Brain scan shows differences in truth, lying
29 Nov 2004 18:29:42 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Brain scans show that the brains of people who are lying look very different from those of people who are telling the truth, U.S. researchers said on Monday.

The study, using functional magnetic resonance imaging or fMRI, not only sheds light on what goes on when people lie but may also provide new technology for lie-detecting, the researchers said.

"There may be unique areas in the brain involved in deception that can be measured with fMRI," said Dr. Scott Faro, director of the Functional Brain Imaging Center at Temple University School of Medicine in Philadelphia.

"There may be unique areas in the brain involved in truth-telling," Faro added at a news conference.

Faro and colleagues tested 10 volunteers. Six of them were asked to shoot a toy gun and then lie and say they didn't do it. Three others who watched told the truth about what happened. One volunteer dropped out of the study.

While giving their "testimony," the volunteers were hooked up both to a conventional polygraph and also had their brain activity imaged using fMRI, which used a strong magnet to provide a real-time picture of brain activity.

There were clear differences between the liars and the truth-tellers, Faro's team told a meeting in Chicago of the Radiological Society of North America.

"We found a total of seven areas of activation in the deception (group)," he said. "We found four areas of activity in the truth-telling arm."

Overall, it seemed to take more brain effort to tell the lie than to tell the truth, Faro found.

Lying caused activity in the frontal part of the brain --- the medial inferior and pre-central areas, as well as the hippocampus and middle temporal regions and the limbic areas. Some of these are involved in emotional responses, Faro said.

During a truthful response, the fMRI showed activation of parts of the brain's frontal lobe, temporal lobe and cingulate gyrus.

Faro said the study was small and limited. Volunteers were not asked to try especially hard to deceive the equipment, he said -- noting that it has been documented that some people can fool a polygraph using various techniques.

Using fMRI as a lie detector is expensive, but it may be worthwhile in some cases -- such as trying to question a terrorism suspect, or in a high-profile corporate crime case, Faro said.

thedrifter
11-29-04, 08:13 PM
I just looked them in the eyes...

Always worked for me......;)


Ellie

TracGunny
11-29-04, 08:23 PM
true, Ellie, it seems to me that women have always been able to tell when men are lying... intuition, sixth sense, whatever... perhaps women can catch on the the amount of brain activity (I just set myself up); the less activity, the more lying.

Arlene Horton
11-29-04, 09:55 PM
There were times when my son attempted to lie to me. He was lost as soon as he started because his face and ears turned bright red! He knew that was the one thing I really wouldn't accept. He spent over 12 years as an ET/lst class and all his evals were 4.0. Sure wish he would have become a MARINE, but he was 6'6" and he said he'd "make an easy target". Typical response for someone without his parents "Gung Ho" attitude.

hrscowboy
11-29-04, 10:42 PM
i just beat a confession out of them it works better and relieves stress...

femalemarine_89
11-30-04, 11:54 AM
LOL.. Yeah I have always noticed that when a guy is lying that he cant look directly at you, he is always looking around or looking at the ground. Its funny cause I will just listen to them and pretend like im believing him and when he is done I let him have it.. Its crazy..

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 01:02 PM
When I know my husband is lying, I just let him ramble and ramble. I shake my head so he thinks I believe him. Then later in the day or later in the week, I start asking him questions about the subject he lied about. His response is either very vague or it's, "you remember honey what I told you...". Then he does the eye thing...when he doesn't look at me. It's funny to see him struggle, but it also makes me VERY mad to think he is trying to get away with it. You never want to see a female Marine mad!!!

femalemarine_89
11-30-04, 01:19 PM
If that isnt the truth there Sgt. I dont think its a very pretty sight when you see a ****ed off Female Marine.. that is one of those things that you just never want to see.. LOL

Sparrowhawk
11-30-04, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by thedrifter
I just looked them in the eyes...

Always worked for me......;)


Ellie

Amazing things the eyes;

I love it when women look me in the eyes...

Its amazing what you can do with them. LOL

When they do that, they forget quickly forget about the lies and it always leads to other things, LMAO

thedrifter
11-30-04, 01:25 PM
Roger always had a nack for that...

He had bedroom eyes, and a damn devilish grin...;)

Always made me melt....


Ellie

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 01:32 PM
You got to send me a picture of yourself Sparrow!!! Just thinking about it makes me all tingly inside....


OH NO!!!! it's working!!

Toby M
11-30-04, 01:32 PM
FemaleMarine89-looking down or looking around was a trick I learned to look for during my 25 plus years in Law Enforcement too! I see we have the same background..some things you just never forget!

Sparrowhawk
11-30-04, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Sgt Morales, AM
You got to send me a picture of yourself Sparrow!!! Just thinking about it makes me all tingly inside....


OH NO!!!! it's working!!

Anyone from Florida that loves Italian food has got to be a good women.

Click the link below, its my picture but don't let Marinemom or Ellie see it, they have been trying to see what I look like for years. LOL

Below is a picture I posted on this site awhile back...

followed by what I look like today.

What I looked like in 1967 (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132&highlight=shotgun)

What Sparrowhawk looks like today (http://cookbarela.bizland.com/award.gif)

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 02:08 PM
What a hotty in 67!!!! I am not sure what to say about the "now" picture. I am surprised that you get away with the "eye thing" looking like that!! LOL

femalemarine_89
11-30-04, 02:42 PM
Hey Toby.. yeah some things you just never forget.. they keep in your mind and you just always remember the little things. It is soo easy once you have been in the profession that we have been in to know when something just isnt right..

marinemom
11-30-04, 02:45 PM
Now we have to worry about the Sergeant - she thinks the 'hawk causes tingles.........................

Always easy to tell when a man is lying - he sounds sooooooooo sincere, lol. And those 12 years of Catholic school helped a lot in checking it out

femalemarine_89
11-30-04, 02:47 PM
LOL.. that is soo funny.. yeah we have to watch the ole Sgt.. she might just lose it now.. LOL.. just kidding

Osotogary
11-30-04, 03:17 PM
I've heard that a man can tell the woman the truth, as she is looking directly into eyes, and she still thinks that he is lying. LOL
I do believe that most men will will concur that this has happened to them more than once.

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 03:25 PM
Ha Ha Ha girls...I don't have those kind of hots for the Hawk. I just think he's a hotty in that 1967 picture. I'm just saying the things you wish you could say. :)

No tingles...really. I was just being sarcastic, I swear!!!!

Sgtj
11-30-04, 03:30 PM
She's lying....

femalemarine_89
11-30-04, 03:40 PM
LOL.. just pickin on ya Sgt. That was a good pic of sparrow back then. No harm in sayin what you think.. LOL

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 04:02 PM
In that case...SparrowHawk was/is a HOTTY, I think!!! just kidding

femalemarine_89
11-30-04, 04:21 PM
LOL..LOL...LOL.

thedrifter
11-30-04, 04:41 PM
I do know Cook real well...he is always getting me into trouble....LOL

Cook but I really know what You look like now.....;)

Girls he is hot....;)


Ellie

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 04:49 PM
Thanks Ellie,
I knew you'd come through for us!! Thanks for the insight.

Sgt Morales, AM
11-30-04, 05:54 PM
Does anyone have any "recent" photos of the Hawk?

Toby M
11-30-04, 06:30 PM
Oh, I don't know...looks like he gained a couple of pounds since '67 but otherwise looks pretty much the same! LOL

Sparrowhawk
11-30-04, 06:35 PM
Ellie, I'll email u the $5 bucks for that comment later... LOL

Here is a Recent picture of Sparrowhawk...


It is a naked picture, so you must be 18 to look at it....

But, I am warning you, it is Sparrowhawk naked as a jaybird...

and you can still see that eye contact look...




LMAO

Ok, Ok, here's what I really look like today! (http://www.leatherneck.com/photopost/data/500/8hawk-med.jpg)

thedrifter
11-30-04, 07:00 PM
WOOHOO ;) :D

Ellie

Arlene Horton
11-30-04, 09:46 PM
Ye Gads Cook!! Looks like you went the same route I did!! I was considered to be relatively pretty when I served. Six kids and 30 years of Nursing really does things to the figure and face!

mrbsox
11-30-04, 10:48 PM
OK guys, and gals.... been reading this thread, and it's time to tell it like it is.


First
I don't have a problem with lying to the wife. I just don't do it. It ain't right, it ain't Marine.

Second
I run things in MY house.

Third
I 'smack them jaws' every night.

A wise man told me that those were the two most important things to a happy marriage,
run things, and
'smack them jaws'

Now... before you women get too riled up....

I run..


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.


.
the dishwasher
vacuum cleaner
washer and dryer

And 'smacking them jaws :yes:
X X X X X X X X X

:banana:

Sparrowhawk
11-30-04, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by mrbsox
First
I don't have a problem with lying to the wife. I just don't do it. It ain't right, it ain't Marine.

Second
I run things in MY house.

Third
I 'smack them jaws' every night.

A wise man told me that those were the two most important things to a happy marriage,
run things, and
'smack them jaws'

Now... before you women get too riled up....

I run..


.


.


.
the dishwasher
vacuum cleaner
washer and dryer

And 'smacking them jaws :yes:
X X X X X X X X X

:banana:

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LMAO @ mrbsox


Sounds like he wears the pants in his family, so he won't get his knees dirty, while he mops the floors... LMAO

I let the six women in my household believe they run the ship....

But I have a cleaning lady that comes in once a week to clean up, my office...

A secretary to do my typing and another women that comes in to do my ironing, wife won't let me get another one to give me a massage, now what's up with that?

I think she got suspicious when she noticed all of them were redheads.. LOL

Sgtj
11-30-04, 11:54 PM
I would post my picture up here, but not sure how??? oh well... probably saves me from total humiliation.

Sparrowhawk
12-01-04, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by Sgtj
I would post my picture up here, but not sure how??? oh well... probably saves me from total humiliation.

Go ahead Sgtj email it to me, and I'll post it.

Sparrowhawk@email.com

Namvet67
12-01-04, 10:23 AM
Sgt Morales has it figured out...it's the delayed reaction. A woman will come back and ask questions (already knows the answer) sometimes weeks and even months later. Well if we were not telling the truth...we would have trouble remembering all the details.

Sgt Morales, AM
12-01-04, 12:13 PM
Oh.... you know I have it figured out! I'm a Marine for God sakes. I got the whole interrogation thing down!

As far as pictures go, y'all just might fall in love with me!! HA HA HA. And, I can't figure why the computer is giving me an error when I upload. I'll probably send it to the Hawk so he can post it.

Sgt Morales, AM
12-01-04, 02:38 PM
You and your Redheads Cook!!! Only you.

thedrifter
12-01-04, 03:09 PM
Hey I resent that remark.....;) :D

Ellie

Sgt Morales, AM
12-01-04, 03:38 PM
Sorry Ellie... :( I didn't know you were a redhead! Your hair looks more brown in the pictures. Sorry! :)

thedrifter
12-01-04, 03:39 PM
I have red highlights...and some days the red is really visible.....;)


Ellie

Sgt Morales, AM
12-01-04, 04:15 PM
oh...I was thinking more like Pipee Long Stockin'. Just kidding!! LOL

grayshade
12-01-04, 05:47 PM
I think the reason why SparrowHawk gets away with the eye thing now is because that's all woman want to look at. Either that or his green and blue undies which, ironically, really bring out the color of his eyes.

Sgtj
12-01-04, 05:57 PM
Sent it SparrowHawk.

Sparrowhawk
12-01-04, 07:38 PM
http://marines.bizland.com/sgtj.jpg

Good pic, sgt but heck if it don't look like you gotta go p ee!

LOL

Sparrowhawk
12-01-04, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by grayshade
...his green and blue undies which, ironically, really bring out the color of his eyes.

I haven't worn skivies since July 1967....

After Nam, I just always felt there was better use for them...

LMAO

thedrifter
12-01-04, 10:14 PM
:eek:

A Freedom Fighter....;) :D

Ellie

Sgtj
12-01-04, 11:23 PM
That is just my game face.

S/F

Sgt Morales, AM
12-02-04, 12:23 AM
Geez SparrowHawk...I didn't know you were a commando!! Free ballin'!!!! ;)

femalemarine_89
12-02-04, 06:02 PM
LOL@gameface..

drillinstructor
12-02-04, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Sgt Morales, AM
You got to send me a picture of yourself Sparrow!!! Just thinking about it makes me all tingly inside....


OH NO!!!! it's working!!

haha things are getting prettty personal here

thedrifter
12-02-04, 08:19 PM
You should hear what Cook and I talk about in the back office....LOL

Ellie


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Sparrowhawk
12-02-04, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by thedrifter
You should hear what Cook and I talk about in the back office....LOL

Ellie




I didn't know how to tell you this, but

I've been secretly recording them, and already have a bid on them from EBay....

and an interest to put them on the net from a couple of those unmentionable web sites... LOL

thedrifter
12-02-04, 08:48 PM
WOOHOO

My 15 minutes of fame is in the horizon....

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Ellie

Sgt Morales, AM
12-02-04, 11:54 PM
OOH NOOOO... TOO much information!!! My sensitive ears!!

femalemarine_89
12-03-04, 11:15 AM
ROFLMAO.. oh boy