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thedrifter
11-17-04, 02:08 PM
U.S. Marine kills wounded insurgent
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?as123
Ellie
I already signed it....2227
airframesguru
11-17-04, 02:23 PM
Name Comments
2311. Michael Weiler
jinelson
11-17-04, 02:26 PM
Done deal I'm 2309, I sure hope this will help this Marine, I'm afraid that the political aspects of this war will force the Corps to come down hard on this Marine to set an example.
hrscowboy
11-17-04, 02:35 PM
Yehawwwwwwwwwwwww you go Miss ellie
Sparrowhawk
11-17-04, 02:43 PM
Just signed the petition, I was signer #2422
It's interesting reading the comments others have entered.
I enclosed the following comment.
<b>"Free the GRUNT! I would have also shot the enemy. This Marine deserves a medal; I would give him mine, Decorated Vietnam Veteran 1967-68."</b>
SF
Cook
snipowsky
11-17-04, 03:04 PM
2589 here!
I fully support this Marine in protecting himself and his Marine comrades. The Marines are fighting a lawless and brainwashed enemy. Terrorists are not protected under the Geneva Convention. You should give that Marine a medal, preferably the MOH. It's ok for them to homicide bomb, behead innocent people and torture? I would have done the same exact thing, but there would be no evidence to convict me because I'd have destroyed it. To bad that reporter wasn't shot too! Embedding the media with our troops is a really dumb idea. Don't send our troops to do a job Iraqi "men" should be doing themselves and things like this won't happen. NO AMERICAN BLOOD IS WORTH ANY IRAQI'S HAVING FREEDOM, LET THEM BLEED THEIR OWN COWARDLY BLOOD, NOT OURS! LET THEM HAVE CIVIL WAR AND THE SUNNI'S WILL BE EXTERMINATED IN A MATTER OF WEEKS!
snipowsky
11-17-04, 03:14 PM
Read 2673!:o :banana:
USMC-FO
11-17-04, 04:00 PM
3079 Semper Fi !!!
hrscowboy
11-17-04, 04:34 PM
yehaaaaaaaaaaw called my mother on this one she what she said No. 2378 Mom is ****ed... My no. 2313
DSchmitke
11-17-04, 04:36 PM
Signed sealed and Delivered
Wyoming
11-17-04, 04:42 PM
3531 - Done deal
hrscowboy
11-17-04, 04:43 PM
My mother is in a uproar over this No.3547
JAMarine
11-17-04, 05:05 PM
# 3785 Here.
Send the Marine back to his unit and leave him alone.
Sempers
snipowsky
11-17-04, 05:11 PM
Don't f**k with "Mothers of America"! Especially hrscowboy's mom!
P.S. Anyone seen this?
http://www.caglecartoons.com/images/preview/{325CE967-000E-4AF4-92F3-531944BBCA42}.gif
I guess Mr. Vince O'Farrell of The Illawarra Mercury, Australia thinks he's funny!
greensideout
11-17-04, 05:30 PM
4005
marinemom
11-17-04, 05:41 PM
Number 4101 - and you all know why I signed it -
Just a side-bar - tigger syas this young kid should not have been sent back to the line.......he knows something, but can't talk now.
lcpl2121
11-17-04, 06:28 PM
4530
LivinSoFree
11-17-04, 06:29 PM
4584, done.
HardJedi
11-17-04, 06:45 PM
I'm 4717.
garryh123
11-17-04, 06:55 PM
3007
Sparrowhawk
11-17-04, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by marinemom
Number 4101 - and you all know why I signed it -
Just a side-bar - tigger syas this young kid should not have been sent back to the line.......he knows something, but can't talk now.
It's called anger....
and PAY-BACK Time...
reminds me, of the first time I opened up in combat...
From My Book
"Dreams of Glory," R.M. Cook Barela (C) 2004
PAY BACK
July 21, 1967
13 Miles South of Da Nang, Republic of South Vietnam
"I had concentrated the gun’s firepower toward the center of the targeted area, and only as the last fifty-forty rounds left the gun’s barrel did I begin to sweep the area just above ground level as Bro had taught me. My firing was at first, a naked response to danger, followed by disciplined military training. It was totally unlike any target practice I’d ever done. This time, it was real and dangerous, this time, it was life and death and I kept expecting bullets to come flying back at us at any moment, but they never came...
As soon as I let up, Chief, who had been firing at the enemy from a kneeling position to the left of us, quickly jumped up and burst through a small opening running in hot pursuit of the enemy. Others in 1st squad followed close behind him, and Jones and Keeton followed after them. ...
I realized that I had responded to Jones' firing, I had opened up without reservation, and had shot at the enemy in retaliation.
I had shot at an enemy whom I couldn’t see, who had killed Bro and Stoker, had wounded Turner and McIntosh, and had seized U.S. government-issued military weapons.
I realized I had opened fire on the enemy, not to help the South Vietnamese people, or because our government sent us there, but to avenge Bro’s death..."
Osotogary
11-17-04, 07:11 PM
4976. Dammmmmmmmmmmmm that felt good!!
#5128 - Done Deal, Semper Fi
Sgt. Smitty
11-17-04, 07:41 PM
5299 here.....promote him!!
Been reading some of the comments in the signatures.
Aside from the few from 'osamabinladen' (yep, chicken sh!ts that won't give their real name), it soumds like a landslide.
I don't know about giving him a 'medal for doing his job' as some had commented, but a ticker tape parade would probably be nice !!
Semper Fi
hrscowboy
11-17-04, 10:05 PM
yep i have to agree on that one too...
I'd have that Marine cover my six anyday. 8600
Phantom Blooper
11-18-04, 05:46 AM
#7068 Semper-Fi! Chuck Hall:marine:
hrscowboy
11-18-04, 07:52 AM
That Marine could be in my squad in a heartbeat at least i know hes gonna protect everyone in the squad
Namvet67
11-18-04, 09:55 AM
Just signed in...# 13,054 and I enclosed this comment: THIS MARINE WAS JUST DOING HIS JOB. I HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SITUATION BEFORE. I AM A DECORATED MARINE COMBAT VETERAN WITH 3 TOURSOF DUTY IN VIETNAM FROM AUGUST 1967 TO JULY 1970. A agree with Sparrowhawk..I would gladly give him one of medals.
thedrifter
11-18-04, 11:42 AM
15956 Total Signatures so far.....
Ellie
USMC-FO
11-18-04, 11:46 AM
Direct link into HQ Marine Corp for comment and insight.
marinemail@hqmc.usmc.mil
MillRatUSMC
11-18-04, 12:01 PM
I signed but let me give you some thoughts;
When that video first showed, there were some might angry that they had to see it before being notified that something was wrong through the chain of command.
That led to a big fece's pie coming from the White House to the Sec of Defense, Sec of the Navy, The Jointed Chiefs, The Commandant of the Marine Corps, CentCom Commander, 1st Marine Division Commander, 1st Marines Commander, 3rd Battalion Commander, the Company Commander and Platoon of the Marine of the petition.
All those Officers and Offical took a bite of that fece's pie and they're not happy.
They want answers, why they were not notified about the video before it aired.
There's Article 32 investigation on going at the moment.
Even the CMC has to answer on emmbedded reporters.
The embedded reporters have no chain of command and they can send back views as they happen.
Should the reporter Sities made use of common sense?
I don't think that the harm he was going to create was on his mind.
Now he stands to get a journlism award of some kind for his reporting that killing.
We question why that Marine was still there after suffering a wound to the head.
Than seeing a fellow Marine killed by a booby trap insurgent or terrorist.
When the terrorists resort to that, they lose the protection of protecting the wounded.
Making all their wounded fair game.
For that reason, they should return this Marine to his unit, treat his wounds, the one's visiable and those that don't show.
Now it's all up to the Article 32 investigation.
Wars have a way of changing character as we have seen in others and we're seeing in Iraq.
Those are my thoughts on this matter.
Semper Fidelis/Semper Fi
Ricardo
PS
I wonder if there's a petition to hang this Marine somewhere on the web.
Sgt Morales, AM
11-18-04, 03:28 PM
I signed it Ms. Ellie. I'm number 21,874!!!
Signed 22249
Semper Fi!!!
vfm
braeden
11-18-04, 03:58 PM
Name Comments
22647. Brad Semper Fi Marine!
geno456
11-18-04, 06:32 PM
i think he should be giving a medal john kerry got the silver star
for shotting a kid in the back running away from him
geno456
11-18-04, 06:35 PM
26057
Sgt. Smitty
11-18-04, 08:01 PM
OUTSTANDING turn out so far.........oooooorrraaaaaahhhh!
yellowwing
11-18-04, 11:21 PM
33,925!
thedrifter
11-19-04, 08:22 AM
40340 Total Signatures
Ellie
ROB8541
11-19-04, 08:38 AM
41102,
CplCrotty
11-19-04, 09:54 AM
Signed and submitted.
SgtDvlDog3
11-19-04, 10:17 AM
I'm 46005, Oorah, it is in the heat of battle that a Marines true bravery, valor and fortitude will reveal itself. This Marine is deserved of more than a medal. He deserves the love and thanks of his fellow Marines which is clearly displayed here in this forum. Semper Fi.
OLE SARG
11-19-04, 11:56 AM
51105
SEMPER FI
OLE SARG
thedrifter
11-19-04, 02:33 PM
Get the Word Out Marines...
Send this to Your congressmen....
57967 Total Signatures
Ellie
WillManning
11-19-04, 02:39 PM
58239
sgt.lane
11-19-04, 03:00 PM
59100 keep it going
criggleman
11-19-04, 04:38 PM
Done Deal, Semper Fi Marines. 60794
Jersey Joe
11-19-04, 07:33 PM
70,416 and growing
Jersey Joe
snipowsky
11-19-04, 09:35 PM
This petition list is getting HUGE! OMG! This Marine has hella support! SEMPER F**KING FI!
greensideout
11-19-04, 09:43 PM
Can the folks in DC feel the pressure? I hope so for this Marine who did his job well!
thedrifter
11-20-04, 05:00 AM
79636 Total Signatures
Ellie
Ed Palmer
11-20-04, 07:35 AM
81306 been there done that,
what they ought to do is hang the fxxxing reporter.
He could have reported that totaly different to shoh some compassion as to what the Marine went through to get there , hell he might have saved that fxxxink reporters life at some given point that day, you never know what fate has in store,
Namvet67
11-20-04, 09:57 AM
8 5, 0 1 6 signatures of pressure on Congress and support for our brother. The reporter is a anti-war activist...like Kerry...Both should seek cover.
thedrifter
11-20-04, 10:04 AM
Leathernecks support Fallujah Marine <br />
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By Ian H. Fennell <br />
American News Writer <br />
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The U.S. military's latest scandal in Iraq has caught the attention of Aberdeen's Marine Corps League. <br />
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The...
Namvet67
11-20-04, 10:24 AM
It looks like we are making progress. Thanks Ellie
Sgt. Smitty
11-20-04, 11:02 AM
Hey Snipowsky, they ought to send that pic to a ragead newspaper and have them print it out for those buttheads.
Namvet67
11-20-04, 11:28 AM
It looks like we are getting about 1,200 + signatures per hour since the start.... 8 7, 9 3 9 so far
thedrifter
11-21-04, 08:36 AM
109922 Total Signatures
Ellie
Eaglestrikes
11-21-04, 07:18 PM
#125619.
Lots of posting. It was up to 12570 as soon as I hit the submit button. Marines do not leave their own out on a limb or anywhere else they are in danger.
charlies
11-21-04, 07:30 PM
thank you
126187. ***** please remove all media from this war.
thedrifter
11-22-04, 06:29 AM
135099 Total Signatures
Ellie
braeden
11-22-04, 11:15 AM
150095 Total Signatures
as of 11.13
I forwarded the link to a couple of buddies here at the reserve unit and to a couple of guys at MARRESFOR in Bellechase, LA, so it should be making the rounds there as well.......
We were getting killed in the pacific in WW II by Japs feigning injuries, disarmed condition, and surrendering. Haven't we learned anything or are most of us remembering those instances dead now?
OJ KING, MD
braeden
11-22-04, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by OJK
We were getting killed in the pacific in WW II by Japs feigning injuries, disarmed condition, and surrendering. Haven't we learned anything or are most of us remembering those instances dead now?
OJ KING, MD
Yes, we are forgetting. Especially since our WWII vets are dying at a rate of 1,100 a day. Plus, with the advent of embedded reporters, comes all the politically correct rhetoric spewed by those who have never had the experience of being shot at, weeks on end without a shower, prickly heat, or the realization that you'll give all to protect those who fight with you and whom you consider family as they are all you have, even at the cost of your life or the man's life who is on the other end of your rifle. If that means 'accidentally', (term being used loosely), shooting an 'unarmed' insurgent, who moments before was trying to kill you and your boys, SO BE IT. Let alone the fact that one of his buddies pulled the same 'possum' act and killed one of your fellow Marines. Better to shoot first and ask questions later. I am not going to risk my life or the life of my Marines to worry about what some prize hungry reporter finds moral in combat.
thedrifter
11-23-04, 03:32 PM
Needs a bump'
198877 Total Signatures
Ellie
Done...signed
Lets hope they pay attention to this petition...
thedrifter
11-24-04, 03:10 PM
Keeping it moving
224416 Total Signatures
Ellie
Rifleman
11-25-04, 09:04 PM
I signed the petition. God Bless the Marines.
I just checked the petition site and I'm glad to say there are now over 240,000 signatures.
thedrifter
11-26-04, 08:16 AM
243435 Total Signatures
Ellie
thedrifter
11-28-04, 08:37 AM
260857 Total Signatures
Ellie
thedrifter
11-29-04, 09:52 AM
Bump
272178 Total Signatures
Ellie
A. Schwartz
11-29-04, 11:52 AM
I learned during the early years in Vietnam that it is much better to be judged by 12 than carried by six. When in doubt, salute. Semper Fi young man.
Namvet67
11-29-04, 12:53 PM
A M E N A. Schartz
12-03-04
1354 eastern (GMT-6)
311886 signatures
Since Friday, November 12 2004. That's 3 weeks.
Bumping this back up, and reminding everybody to pass it around, remind your 'P's.
Wouldn't it be cool to see over 1 million, by Christmas !!
Semper Fi
312468 here as of 1450 CST. A "shot" to make the media weenie duck first would have been a good idea too !
Magick23
12-03-04, 04:33 PM
Just signed the petition #312898. Just doing my part to help the cause. I truly think you servicemen and women deserve more than want Uncle Sam has to offer ya'll.It's not thier *** on the line
and they definitely should not go ahead with punishment on that Marine!!
thedrifter
12-03-04, 05:44 PM
Navy Probes New Iraq Prisoner Photos <br />
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By SETH HETTENA, Associated Press Writer <br />
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CORONADO, Calif. - The U.S. military has launched a criminal investigation into photographs that appear to show...
What the ****??? These people will look for anything to tear down the military! How do they expect our guys to get the job done? Do they actually think these insurgents are going to volunteer information just because we captured them? Haven't they forgotten that they all want to die so they aren't going to be afraid of us!!! It's just another example of their B.S.!!!
Namvet67
12-08-04, 01:03 PM
Charlie Daniels...country/western artist has issued a letter in support of the Marine who shot the wounded prisoner. He says it is a national disgrace, not what the Marine did but what the media is doing. Quote "I don't know your name, son, but let me tell you from the bottom of my heart...no matter what they say you are a US Marine and there are millions of people who would love to shake your hand and tell you how much you are appreciated. Without you and young people like you, there would be no US of America.
Ya just gotta love a
'LONG HAIRED COUNTRY BOY'
Namvet67
12-08-04, 01:33 PM
Yep and 3 2 8, 5 0 0 others who have stood in support and signed the petition.
Sixguns
12-08-04, 03:16 PM
Thanks for the info and site. I have proudly registered and supported the petition. I feel badly for any elected official who is on the wrong side of this one!!! There are many good comments and reasons why this Marine was/is justified in his actions. When he was shot, who was there to cry "foul"? I'm sure the individual(s) who shot him were not wearing uniforms that identified them as "enemies." I'm sure they took cover and concealed themselves in "sacred" places, only to point a weapon out of an open Mosque window. You can't have it both ways! If you want to use a Mosque as a sanctuary, fine. But, the minute you begin an offensive or attack from that location, you are no longer "out of bounds." In this war, you cannot employ the "wait to take fire, before returning fire" mentality. Car bombers and human booby traps know this is their best and most effective way to kill Americans and pay with just one Iraqi insurgent life. They are smart! Why would they want to get into a force on force firefight with Marines? They know they are out-gunned and out-manned! They have used these tactics to swing odds toward their favor. It's time that we recognize that this enemy does not live by a code of honor on the battlefield and that they have only one rule of engagement -- Kill any and all Americans with whatever force, means and tactics they can. If Iraqis seek peace and independence from American support, they must take an active role in flushing out those who fuel and continue the war in Iraq.