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Looking for your thoughts, reading between the lines, kinda.
Insurgents have kidnapped the P.M.s cousin and family, and are demanding we stop the attack.
I ask, why an act that seems 'desperate' ??
Insurgents are spreading out carbombings, bigger bolder attacks.
I ask, possibly trying to draw our attention away from Fallujah ??
Fallujah was such a 'stronghold' in the first place, where they seemed to be 'holed' up, at all costs.
I ask, why ??
Now they are fading away, sporadic attacks, but mostly easy going, compared to what reports say was expected.
I ask, an attempt to make us think we're done, we'll get lazy and back off ??
I ask;
Is there something/someone there that can't move, that they want us diverted from ? Don't want us to find ?
Just asking, and thinking.
we telegraphed our punches, they all (most of em anyway) split.
we're going after flies w/hammers. don't have the answer. like i've said way before this began, a fool's mission.
hrscowboy
11-11-04, 09:47 PM
what conflict have we not fought since vietnam that we have telegraphed our intentions first. This bull**** of having news media members imbedded with the troops is totally stupid. as far as i am concerned the media needs to be totally forbidden anywhere around a war zone that involves US Troops until the mission is completed. again the old sayin is loose lips sinks ships well these turds have slipped out before the misson really even got a good start, and why because we telegraphed our intentions before we even went in there...
Sparrowhawk
11-11-04, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by mrbsox
Looking for your thoughts, reading between the lines, kinda.
...sporadic attacks, but mostly easy going, compared to what reports say was expected.
This whole war has been like that from the first Iraqi War, it seems the media feeds their ego, and they in turn feed the media a strong image of their existence that is not there.
The PM knows this, which is why he supports our efforts, hurt him and like all arab muslim terrorist they turn cowards and run, I expect him to do likewise.
Lets us finish the war, kick as s and take names, get out of our way and let us do the job and it will get done, the Arab street knows this and they fear this, but our politicians in Washington like the Hollywood crowd do not, so they help hype the terrorist acts and deeds to be more then what they are and what they accomplish. In that part of the world its nothing its only here in America that such acts have any value.
Fallujah is as good a place as any to fight the terrorist and it seems from what is occurring that they did not think the PM would go along with it, or allow us to go this far in carrying out a batttle agains them.
That maybe the reason the Pm's kinfolks were taken. Saddam Hussein up till the time he was pulled out of the hole like Baghdad Bob, did not believe we were determine to take the battle to their home ground.
For far too many years we have been seen as soft on war, but that view is slowly changing and that maybe why fewer are willing to engage us in battle.
Just my htoughts..
SF
Coo
larry0351
11-16-04, 10:31 AM
I think they need to get the media completely out of the combat zone. Because of them trying to make it a popular war,a young Marine could be put through some some really bad times for killing an insurgent who was playing dead. How many times can the enemy pull this act befor the media finally catch on,and see killing these people is the same as killing a rattlesnake.
In this age of high tech, cell phones, etc I find it incredible that the media covered the "build up" or "preperations" for the attack on Fallujah starting a week before the operation.
In that time period there was an evacuation of the city.
I firmly believe that hundreds (if not thousands) of insurgents evacuated with the citizens.
Now they are in other Iraqi cities to do their dirty work. Maybe less organized but there none-the-less.
Al-Zawari escaped with the rest of them.
When are we going to learn to keep our mouths shut (gag the media) when it comes to preperation of operations.
If anyone thinks there aren't supporters (even here in the USA) calling the insurgents to keep them up-to-date on our intentions you are fooling yourself.
Reminds me of news articles that appeared in the Stars & Stripes after the attack on the Danang airbase in July, 67. The article clearly stated that if the VC's rocket launchers were a click or 2 this way or that, more important targets might have been taken out.
I thought to myself, hey, the VC are reading this article right now so they know how to correct their mistakes next time.
I just don't understand.
Namvet67
11-16-04, 11:15 AM
This is not a game...we don't need a referee. That appears to me that the media may be trying to do just that. Our comanders in the field don't need someone looking over their shoulder and passing judgement. Get the media out of the combat zones and back into base camp where they belong.
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