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Shaffer
11-05-04, 07:03 PM
With U.S. and Iraqi forces gearing up for an expected major offensive in Falluja, interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said Friday that "we intend to liberate" the city.

Overnight, U.S. warplanes attacked new targets in the insurgent stronghold west of Baghdad.

Against this backdrop, Allawi said Friday the "window is closing" for a peaceful settlement in the "Sunni Triangle" city.

"We intend to liberate the people and bring the rule of law," Allawi said in Brussels, Belgium, where he was visiting the European Union and NATO to discuss aid for his fledgling government.

Meanwhile, forces continued their stepped-up attacks on insurgent targets.

In separate strikes, U.S. Air Force and Marine aircraft destroyed suspected insurgent buildings, barriers used as fortifications, an offensive position that stored explosives, fighting positions and a weapons cache.

A Marine spokesman said a significant amount of munitions was recovered, then destroyed.

A hospital official in Falluja said that two women were critically injured in a U.S. operation.

On Friday, an American soldier died and five others were wounded as "the result of an indirect fire attack" on a base near Falluja, the U.S. military said.

In Al Anbar province, where Falluja and Ramadi are located, two U.S Marines were killed and four others wounded Thursday, a U.S. military spokesman said.

In the northern Iraqi city of Balad, a roadside bomb hit a U.S. military convoy Thursday night, killing one 1st Infantry Division soldier and wounding another, the U.S. military said.

The number of U.S. military fatalities in the war totals 1,128.

Karl Penhaul, a CNN correspondent embedded with Marines near Falluja, said C-130s could be heard attacking targets, probably with 105 mm cannons.

The major assault on Falluja is expected soon, so the region can be pacified before the January elections for a transitional national assembly.

The strikes are aimed at the Abu Musab al-Zarqawi network and other militants, who have a strong presence in the city 30 miles (48 kilometers) west of the Iraqi capital.

The assault is being planned at a camp outside the city, where Marines are rehearsing urban warfare. They are studying fighting techniques used in Vietnam in the 1960s, in the Israeli-occupied territories, Chechnya and Somalia.

Commanders said they expect to encounter booby-trapped buildings, roadside bombs, suicide car bombs and rooftop snipers.

Military officials said there are scores of mosques used as insurgent sniping positions, command and control posts, and combat clinics.

Marines will work to surprise the insurgents by moving in quickly with infantry, tanks and attack helicopters.

Marines estimate most residents of the city -- which once had a population of 250,000 -- have fled, and about 50,000 civilians are left.

It is believed that the city holds 2,000 to 5,000 insurgents, who communicate with cell phones, carrier pigeons and flags.

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has voiced concern about a possible assault.

In a letter dated October 31, Annan warned the United States, Britain and Iraq that military offensives being planned for Falluja and other insurgent strongholds could jeopardize the upcoming elections.

He said he worries about the "negative impact that major military assaults, in which the main burden seems bound to be borne by American forces, are likely to have on the prospects for encouraging a broader participation by Iraqis in the political process, including in the elections."

Booby traps found
In Ramadi, U.S. forces said they defused explosives rigged to detonate inside a youth center used by dozens of children. Tons of explosives were found hidden in a mosque.

In the Baquba region, north of Baghdad, insurgent attacks over the last 24 hours claimed the lives of three Iraqis.

Two of the civilians killed were children who died when a mortar landed on their house near a police station. Three women were wounded.

greensideout
11-05-04, 07:32 PM
There is no "clean way" to take a city. The risks are high! I say we should stay with the air strikes and include the mosques when used as a war fortress---they all are!

greensideout
11-06-04, 08:59 PM
"Level the whole city"?

That would include the homes and all that the civilians, women and children have.

We are there for them to end their suffering, not to make it worst.

Let's keep the sights on the target we are after, not the whole city.

Street fighting will be ugly at best, but I beleive when the time comes our Marines will be outstanding---but it may come at a cost that we do not wish to bear.

benny rutledge
11-08-04, 12:11 PM
Gen Billy Mitchell showed us the way and LtGen Curtis LeMay learned that lesson well.The Fire Storms in Dresden and Tokyo showed our enemies once and for all that we were finished with Mr.Nice Guy.
The Japs and the Nazi's were warned to get out of town that the end was coming.Some were too slow some did not believe.
The farkin Arabs need to made into believers.
Not one dead Marine!Not one dead soldier!
Make Fallujah into a parking lot,kick their asses,pack your gear and come home!

MillRatUSMC
11-08-04, 12:30 PM
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U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has voiced concern about a possible assault.

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My thoughts;
Srew U.N Secetary-General Kofi Annan, they had their chance to hand over the terrorists.
Now the time has come for some payback, if it takes leveling a few buildings, so be it.
The souls of many killed scream for some payback.
The terrorsts are not going to heaven, they're going to hell!!!
We're not the Crusades coming back, we're Alexandar the Great coming back to defeat the terrorists...

Semper Fidelis/Semper Fi
Ricardo

earlofgray
11-09-04, 06:48 AM
why waste one more jarhead for them.
kill them all let God figure out who go's to where
bring our boys home

snipowsky
11-09-04, 01:45 PM
NUKE 'EM!

Phantom Blooper
11-09-04, 10:08 PM
Level the entire Middle East and make it the "Gulf of the Middle East." Semper-Fi! "Never Forget" Chuck Hall:marine:

Namvet67
11-10-04, 01:18 PM
Do what Marines are trained to do...go in make a parking lot out of the city and send the Marines home so the Army will have something to do there. Let's not turn this into another Vietnam. The Marine Corps was not formed to occupy and police...

cjwright90
11-10-04, 02:13 PM
Once it is taken, Fallujah will not be held by Marines. But in a tight fight like is all Urban Warfare, who better than the USMC to take it. Last I heard, we have 70% now...Then come in the other guys(US ARMY, Iraqi Army). Mosques used as barracks, HQ for attacks, get no repreive, they are now fair game. I believe that the holy places are just that, not sniper towers, etc. I feel the same for hospitols and schools. If they are used as sniper nests, they themselves become targets. Kind of like the old military law that you are not allowed to shoot a .50 at a person, but equipment, making the 782 gear a perfect target. Getting my point?

yellowwing
11-11-04, 03:35 PM
I like that, "Continued Talks 0%, Level the Whole City 75%"

yellowwing
11-11-04, 07:37 PM
...you are not allowed to shoot a .50 at a person, but equipment, making the 782 gear a perfect target.

I like that too, a lot of half inch holes in raggedy ass "combat" robes!

georip1
11-14-04, 09:33 PM
I beleive that our option's as duty bound Marine's is to level the city-"kill 'em all and let God sort them out." We never allow the enemy to breathe the air that we breathe. I feel it is OK to think that we need to show compassion, BUT have WE forgotten what it's all about???? LET'S GO GET SOME!!!!! SEMPER FI!!!

ROB8541
11-16-04, 06:49 PM
m82a1 makes nice ventilation in all types of armor ie. belt buckles,helmet stolen flacks ect


do what we do best, light the f'rs up!

semper fi

benny rutledge
11-18-04, 11:33 AM
Dammit!it's taking too long!Marines are still dying!
Think B-52's and Steel rain 24 hrs a day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Toby M
11-18-04, 12:03 PM
Allawi can start by admitting that the Marine involved in the shooting incident was doing his job and the insurgents can expect more of the same if they continue with their terrorist activities!

fulmetaljackass
12-03-04, 09:39 AM
I understand not wanting to make things worse for the civilians there. President Bush said that this war was against the regime, not the people. Well, people moved into Iraq that want our brothers and sisters going home in body bags....and....well.... doesn't that mean that now the war IS against the people? Sure, it's not against all the people. Take for instance in WWII when Hitler encouraged every German to take up arms against the allied invaders....but they didn't.....and we still bombed the bejeezus out of everything because WAR IS WAR. Even a Marine MP is a rifleman first. Let's hope our higher ups pull their heads out of their arses and realize that war fighting and nation building cannot go on at the same time. We will never rebuild that nation until we do what it takes to win the war in that region.

IceMan4588
12-06-04, 10:33 AM
my job is as a pilot is to see that every fire i drop is to hit the enemy. i just returned from OIF and when you have RPG's flying at you its not fun. i'm just waiting on the green light and i'll let iraq see what japan saw in WWII

mrbsox
12-06-04, 02:22 PM
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Cap'n

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