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thedrifter
09-10-04, 06:19 AM
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 09, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a current word processing program, according to typography experts.

Three independent typography experts told CNSNews.com they were suspicious of the documents from 1972 and 1973 because they were typed using a proportional font, not common at that time, and they used a superscript font feature found in today's Microsoft Word program.

The "60 Minutes" segment included an interview with former Texas lieutenant governor Ben Barnes, who criticized Bush's service. The news program also produced a series of memos that claim Bush refused to follow an order to undertake a medical examination.

The documents came from the "personal office file" of Bush's former squadron commander Jerry B. Killian, according to Kelli Edwards, a spokeswoman for "60 Minutes," who was quoted in Thursday's Washington Post. Edwards declined to tell the Post how the news program obtained the documents.

But the experts interviewed by CNSNews.com homed in on several aspects of a May 4, 1972, memo, which was part of the "60 Minutes" segment and was posted on the CBS News website Thursday.

"It was highly out of the ordinary for an organization, even the Air Force, to have proportional-spaced fonts for someone to work with," said Allan Haley, director of words and letters at Agfa Monotype in Wilmington, Mass. "I'm suspect in that I did work for the U.S. Army as late as the late 1980s and early 1990s and the Army was still using [fixed-pitch typeface] Courier."

The typography experts couldn't pinpoint the exact font used in the documents. They also couldn't definitively conclude that the documents were either forged using a current computer program or were the work of a high-end typewriter or word processor in the early 1970s.

But the use of the superscript "th" in one document - "111th F.I.S" - gave each expert pause. They said that is an automatic feature found in current versions of Microsoft Word, and it's not something that was even possible more than 30 years ago.

"That would not be possible on a typewriter or even a word processor at that time," said John Collins, vice president and chief technology officer at Bitstream Inc., the parent of MyFonts.com.

"It is a very surprising thing to see a letter with that date [May 4, 1972] on it," and featuring such typography, Collins added. "There's no question that that is surprising. Does that force you to conclude that it's a fake? No. But it certainly raises the eyebrows."

Fred Showker, who teaches typography and introduction to digital graphics at James Madison University in Harrisonburg, Va., questioned the documents' letterhead.

"Let's assume for a minute that it's authentic," Showker said. "But would they not have used some form of letterhead? Or has this letterhead been intentionally cut off? Notice how close to the top of the page it is."

He also pointed to the signature of Killian, the purported author of the May 4, 1972, memo ordering Bush, who was at the time a first lieutenant in the Texas Air National Guard, to obtain a physical exam.

"Do you think he would have stopped that 'K' nice and cleanly, right there before it ran into the typewriter 'Jerry," Showker asked. "You can't stop a ballpoint pen with a nice square ending like that ... The end of that 'K' should be round ... it looks like you took a pair of snips and cut it off so you could see the 'Jerry.'"

The experts also raised questions about the military's typewriter technology three decades ago. Collins said word processors that could produce proportional-sized fonts cost upwards of $20,000 at the time.

"I'm not real sure that you would have that kind of sophistication in the office of a flight inspector in the United States government," Showker said.

"The only thing it could be, possibly, is an IBM golf ball typewriter, which came out around the early to middle 1970s," Haley said. "Those did have proportional fonts on them. But they weren't widely used."

But Haley added that the use of the superscript "th" cast doubt on the use of any typewriter.

"There weren't any typewriters that did that," Haley said. "That looks like it might be a function of something like Microsoft Word, which does that automatically."

According to an article on the CBS News website, the news program "consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic."

http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200409\POL 20040909d.html


Ellie

thedrifter
09-10-04, 09:09 AM
Bush Guard flight logs released <br />
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thedrifter
09-10-04, 04:13 PM
RATHER DIGS IN: THE DOCUMENTS ARE AUTHENTIC

CBSNEWS anchor and 60 MINUTES correspondent Dan Rather publicly defended his reporting Friday morning after questions were raised about the authenticity of newly unearthed memos aired on CBS which asserted that George W. Bush ignored a direct order from a superior officer in the Texas Air National Guard.

CNN TRANSCRIPT:

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DAN RATHER, CBS NEWS ANCHOR: I know that this story is true. I believe that the witnesses and the documents are authentic. We wouldn't have gone to air if they would not have been. There isn't going to be -- there's no -- what you're saying apology?

QUESTION: Apology or any kind of retraction or...

RATHER: Not even discussed, nor should it be. I want to make clear to you, I want to make clear to you if I have not made clear to you, that this story is true, and that more important questions than how we got the story, which is where those who don't like the story like to put the emphasis, the more important question is what are the answers to the questions raised in the story, which I just gave you earlier.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CBS NEWS executives on Thursday launched an internal investigation into whether its premiere news program 60 MINUTES aired fabricated documents relating to Bush's National Guard service, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. "The reputation and integrity of the entire news division is at stake, if we are in error, it will be corrected," a top CBS source explained late Thursday.

Developing...

http://www.drudgereport.com/cbsd2.htm


Ellie

Sparrowhawk
09-10-04, 07:54 PM
CBSNEWS has now refused to speak to Killian's son, and several of Killian's fellow officers that dispute the memos;


saying

But they might be Republicans....

Sparrowhawk
09-10-04, 08:28 PM
Daughter of Lt. Col Ben Barnes condemns her father’s CBSNews hit piece.

She has information that he has told her personally that contradicts what her father has told CBS News.



http://drudgereport.com/601.jpg

This is the worst bias, news story that has ever been produced by a national news agency.

thedrifter
09-10-04, 08:29 PM
You can say that again Cook

Whatever happened to having facts before putting out a piece


Ellie

Sparrowhawk
09-10-04, 08:44 PM
Blogs v. 60 Minutes

By Jay Currie Published 09/10/2004


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The CBS news program Sixty Minutes II ran a story on September 8th bringing to light a set of memos which purported to show that when President Bush was in the National Guard he failed to obey orders. Liberal blogger Josh Marshall framed this revelation thusly:


"But aside from orders that contravene the laws of war, the Geneva Conventions or the US constitution, I don't think an officer or an enlisted man is allowed to disobey an order just because he comes up with some logic by which he decides the order doesn't really make sense. An order is an order, right?"



The memos were supposed to have been written in the early 1970's by a Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian. Who is, as it happens, died in 1984.



Here's what CBS says about the documents:



"… 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about 'how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November.'"



According to the CBS report, Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." According to the report, Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."

60 Minutes says it consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert "who believes the material is authentic."



The CBS story, echoed in the New York Times and the Boston Globe went on to suggest Bush directly disobeyed orders to have an annual physical and, as a result, was grounded.



Pretty damning stuff. Just one problem -- there is mounting evidence collected by the blogosphere that the documents were forgeries. And not very good forgeries at that.



A lot of bloggers are designers and computer geeks. People who pay attention to things like proportional spacing, kerning, superscript text and the other features of modern word processing. Guess what? A letter by letter comparison of one of the purported memos with a version typed in Microsoft Word by Charles Johnson at the blog Little Green Footballs reveals:



"The spacing is not just similar -- it is identical in every respect. Notice that the date lines up perfectly, all the line breaks are in the same places, all letters line up with the same letters above and below, and the kerning is exactly the same. And I did not change a single thing from Word's defaults; margins, type size, tab stops, etc. are all using the default settings. The one difference (the "th" in "187th" is slightly lower) is probably due to a slight difference between the Mac and PC versions of the Times New Roman font, or it could be an artifact of whatever process was used to artificially "age" the document. (Update: I printed the document and the "th" matches perfectly in the printed version. It's a difference between screen and printer fonts.)"



To hammer his point home Johnson superimposes the purported memo with his Microsoft Word, typed today version. Literally 1:1, not even fuzzy, not a letter out of place.



For really detailed analysis, Powerline readers get right to the kerning:



"The type in the document is KERNED. Kerning is the typesetter's art of spacing various letters in such a manner that they are 'grouped' for better readability. Word processors do this automatically. NO TYPEWRITER CAN PHYSICALLY DO THIS.



"To explain: the letter 'O' is curved on the outside. A letter such as 'T' has indented space under its cross bar. On a typewriter if one types an 'O' next to a 'T' then both letters remain separated by their physical space. When you type the same letters on a computer next to each other the are automatically 'kerned' or 'grouped' so that their individual spaces actually overlap. e. g., TO. As one can readily see the curvature of the 'O' nestles neatly under the cross bar of the 'T'. Two good kerning examples in the alleged memo are the word 'my' in the second line where 'm' and 'y' are neatly kerned and also the word 'not' in the fourth line where the 'o' and 't' overlap empty space. A typewriter doesn't 'know' what particular letter is next to another and can't make those types of aesthetic adjustments."



The Weekly Standard published a story with comments from a number of typography experts all of which suggest the memos are a hoax. Radio host and blogger Hugh Hewitt interviews a document examination expert and, unsurprisingly, on point after point the expert is convinced the memos are forgeries.



Most importantly, because it breaks out of the blogosphere, the Associated Press is now on the story, albeit from a different angle:



"Gary Killian, who served in the Guard with his father and retired as a captain in 1991, said one of the memos, signed by his father, appeared legitimate. But he doubted his father would have written another, unsigned memo which said there was pressure to 'sugar coat' Bush's performance review.



"'It just wouldn't happen,' he said. 'The only thing that can happen when you keep secret files like that are bad things. ... No officer in his right mind would write a memo like that.'"



One day. That was all it took for the ranks of citizen journalists to swarm and then thoroughly discredit a story which ran in the New York Times, the Boston Globe and on a network news magazine.



From the Kerry perspective a scandal involving forged documents is a disaster. Kerry had yesterday to get in front of the story and he missed that boat. Instead of being able to stay on message and trying to beat down the post convention pulse which has sent Bush several points ahead in various opinion polls, Kerry is likely to face questions about who was responsible for the forgeries. While it would be astonishing if anyone inside the Kerry organization had a hand in them, it is a question that will be asked. Moreover, the spectacle of Kerry announcing that his campaign organization and the Democratic Party had nothing to do with issuing those documents will occupy several critical news cycles and focus attention on character -- exactly where Kerry does not want to be.



From the perspective of the establishment media, this, too, is a disaster. CBS will have to explain: where did the documents come from? What were the bona fides of the source? Who was the source? Which expert looked at the documents? How closely?



Those are the starter questions. The more basic question is how could a rabble of bloggers, in one day, provide hard core proof of forgery when major news organizations took those documents at face value? Most fundamental of all, why did the New York Times, the Boston Globe and CBS allow themselves to be used for such a transparent attempt to slander President Bush? Out in the blogosphere there are a swarm of people rooting for the answers.



Jay Currie is a Galiano writer whose writing and blog is at www.reviewing.blogspot.com.

thedrifter
09-10-04, 11:24 PM
Rather Replaced ** BREAKING **


http://www.registeredmedia.com/parodies/ratherreplaced.jpg

Sparrowhawk
09-11-04, 12:20 AM
ON TV

LIBERAL SCUM.......

MillRatUSMC
09-11-04, 01:01 AM
Do we now have double standards?
And they just keep on spinning.
Can wait till this so called election is over and done with.
The "truth" is what you want to hear anything else has a need to be studied under a microscope.
Both of these so called candidates have much to cover in their respected past.
One only happens to be a sitting President.
I'm in the process of reading "Battle Ready" by Tom Clancy and co-authored by General Anthony "Tony" Zinni USMC.

Humpty Dumpty
sat on a wall,

Humpty Dumpty

had a great fall.

All the king’s horses,

And all the king’s men,

Couldn't’t put Humpty

together again.
In this case "Humpty Dumpty" turns out to be Iraq.
For lack of a well thought plan on rebuilding Iraq, by default it fell on the military.
So say General Anthony Zinni USMC.
Is he wrong.
Why don't we talk about this and the economy, not about things in the past of both these men...

Semper Fidelis/Semper Fi
Ricardo

PS They're making Ralph Nader look as the way to go.
Or does he have things in his past.

USMC-FO
09-11-04, 06:14 AM
Mill Rat..well put...this election is consumed by hate and division: Those that hate Bush and those that hate Kerry. Most folks will vote this year against one rather than for one. Truth and unity as a nation are sadly lost.

Regardless of who finally ends up in the white house we're all going to have "four more years" of division, finger pointing and disunity. There is very little "pulling togeather" aka "Gung Ho" left today and we're all the worse for it.

Semper Fi !

thedrifter
09-11-04, 06:46 AM
September 10, 2004 <br />
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A Bald (Type) Face Flip-Flop? <br />
Gregory A. Borse <br />
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In the wake of the CBS &quot;60 Minutes&quot; revelation of documents purported by Dan Rather to verify that George W. Bush did not...

Sparrowhawk
09-11-04, 08:39 AM
It seems that the Kerry Campaign had these documents in their hands for months... they must have known them to be fake and Kerry authorized them to be released at this time on 60 minutes. <br />
...

yellowwing
09-11-04, 09:05 AM
Why do elections bring out the worst in journalism? They are rushing around so fast they don't thoroughly check facts, just so they won't get scooped. Idiots.

Tide doesn't run negative ads on Downy. McDonald's doesn't run ads on how crappy Hardee's is. Ford doesn't say, "If you buy a Chevy you'll kill your family." BS.

Gung Ho! Thanks for the reminder USMC-FO :marine:

Sparrowhawk
09-11-04, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by yellowwing
... McDonald's doesn't run ads on how crappy Hardee's is

Gosh darn yellowwing, Crappy Hardee's is for olds people... LOL

hrscowboy
09-11-04, 12:44 PM
I have always said open up both records and let them tell the truth but no one would listen, its going to get real dirty by the time this is all done...

hrscowboy
09-11-04, 12:46 PM
And I wish that it was a law that if you run for the President of the United States office, all records are open to the public that includes Military also. If you want the job then you need to be squeeky clean thats the bottom line...

Osotogary
09-11-04, 07:28 PM
I don't suspect that anyone would run for President if all personal records were an "open book". LOL

yellowwing
09-11-04, 07:29 PM
Lord knows I'm not squeeky clean. But I do know that there are many that are squeeky clean and are qualified. If they have the desire and the calling, let them bare all!

But fer' chrissakes, let the media slow down about 2 beats just evaluate what is the truth.

Meanwhile as this media circus stumbles along US General: Bin Laden Still Issuing Orders (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040911/ap_on_re_as/afghan_al_qaida_3).

Iran also has been making a lot Nuclear moves and posturing while we debate Guard records and Purple Hearts. The media has been splashing the 35 year old speculation while the current Axis of Evil is pushing the envelope.