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thedrifter
08-24-04, 06:14 AM
08-23-2004 <br />
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Guest Column: The Argument against Torture <br />
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By Carlton Meyer

eddief
08-24-04, 12:33 PM
Torture is not only wrong morally but also unreliable as a means of intelligence gathering.

HardJedi
08-24-04, 03:55 PM
civilization, is a concept, not a state of being.


the definition of what is or is not civilized changes from era to era and culture to culture.

take is for what it is worth, but both of those statements are FACTS and cannot be refuted.