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Barndog
01-07-03, 05:09 AM
Yeah you got a point I guess.....
Is it your head?
LMAO
Semper FI
Earle Comstock
01-07-03, 06:02 AM
Ok this is gonna sound weird , but I just got home from the tavern. Ok maybe it dont , but the weird part is I dont drink , alcohol . I been sober almost 15 years now. I do know how to drink , hell , I perfected it in my Marine Corp . I guess I found out I could be an as*hole without alcohol. I go up to this tavern close by , to get in a pool tournament on monday nights. I drink coffee , or water and have a good time with friends. This is what I believe keeps me sober , watching the friends getting drunk and making as*es of themselves. The owner of this tavern has a real problem with me parking my bike on the sidewalk next to his tavern . Now , where I park my black bit*h is not on his property . I park it on the Bakerys sidewalk which is connected to his joint , but its not his. Ok now you gotta follow me here , He did ask me not to park on his sidewalk . Tonight I did originally park right in front of his place , I was clearly in the wrong. He just had new carpet installed in his bar. He dont want the bikers tracking through the oil that he knows that the Harleys leak , and track it into his bar. Ok I understand where hes coming from , but neither one of my bikes leak and I take offense to that , but I understand . He has witnessed this fact that neither of my Harleys leak . He is just concerned that another biker that doesnt take care of his bike the way that I do , parks there and leaks oil , that someone walks through and tracks it into his place , you still with me? Ok now this is why I park on the sidewalk . Above the sidewalk is an overhang , this helps me in this way . With me parking under this overhang , my windshield does not fog up . True story , park your car under a carport one night , the next night dont. Has to be a foggy night. Some of you know I'm being truthful , some of you got to find out for yourselves. Anyways , I can wipe the windshield off with a rag , but before I make it to the road it will fog right back up if I dont park under the overhang. So tonight I get to the Tavern and the owner is not there , which he usually isnt on a Monday night . I'm playing my first match and he shows up . He comes right to me and wants to know why the fvck I'm parked in front of his bar. He 's a big man , maybe 6'2" and I'm 5'7" . I tell him to let me finish my game and I'll move it. Now I'm pis*ed at myself for getting in this situation . Now I cant keep my mind on the game and I lose . Now I'm nothing to write home about , but I can hold my own on a pool table. I go out and pull my bike infront of the Bakery , and thats not good enough for him . So he sits behind me and keeps yelling sh*t at me , but I'm in a heavy conversation and I'm not paying much attention to him . Because I'm not listening he decides if he gets real close to me and yells into my ear that I'm gonna hear him better . Ok , now I'm pis*ed , and I tell that fat fvcking blowhard to back the fvck off me , before I put lumps on his head faster than he can rub em . Now theres a little role reversal going on here , He figures he can intimidate me . OOPS , it aint working , so now he asks me politely if I could come into his office to have a meeting of the minds . Alls I did to back him off was have a little stare down with him . Once he looked in my eyes and seen I wasn't scared he mellowed right the fvck out. I guess I learned something in the Corp. He was still puffed up on the way to the office , he had to have some dignity in front of his customers, and I did allow him that much . Once the door to his office closed , he lost all the air he had left . He apologized for the way he approached me , and I apologized for parking in front of his bar. I explained to him why I park on the sidewalk sometimes . He told me , that he really thought I was trying to disrespect him . I told him if I wanted to disrespect him , I would have waited for him to get to the tavern , then park in front. He said he really liked me because I'm a stand up mother-fvcker. I dont sugar coat nothing , and if you want to know something and want to know the truth , you'd better want to hear the answer. I said , I'm not trying to pretend anything , I'm just trying to be me . This night ended on a good note , And after it was over , I felt good about myself . February 22 , I'll have 15 years sober . Somedays youre just glad you were a Marine . SEMPER FI , DO OR DIE:marine: CPL CommieKill A Commie For Mommy :rambo:
firstsgtmike
01-07-03, 06:48 AM
Earle,
Somebody may jump in here and say they would have handled it differently. But the ONLY thing that matters is the end result.
That said. Forty years ago I would have killed your ass on a pool table. You'd walk home, and I'd own three Harleys. (You're too easily distracted.)
thedrifter
01-07-03, 10:59 AM
Goodmorning
I don't believe this weather it has been snowing off and on since Sunday......and now they are telling me that tomorrow it is going up in the 50's....LOL.....
Barrio_rat....I always can use a little help....LOL.....
Bones I agree with you that the site is moving along.....but us maturing......I like to have fun.......LOL.......
Barndog......I thought Marines and Bars go together LOL....We all don't have to drink in them....just getting together with our bro's and having some good conversations is reason enough for me.......
All have a good day
Sempers,
Roger
Barndog
01-07-03, 11:32 AM
Earle,
Come July, I'll have 14 years sober off cocaine. At times, I have imbibed too much in the spirits. In order to keep off blow, I tried N.A. - but ended up in A.A. I quit everything for dang near 5 years, then gradually began quaffing a few beers again. Yup, occasionally I do imbibe too much.
But I have no desire to touch that white stuff, today. And, I'm stringin a good bunch of them today's together. Watched alot of aquaintances die in the years I moved beyond that. I thank God (higher power, whomever) and the Marine Corps for getting me this far. Hell, there were days, the Corps was all I had to go on. Or die.
The program works. Did for me. And, there aint a damm thing wrong with asking someone else for help. I had certain 'friends' (for lack of better terms) criticize me for doing what I did. Funny, I don't see them much anymore on the whole. I've moved on. They seem to be stuck in this eerie non-existence state. It's really strange why they can't see it. But, that ain't my problem.
I feel a helluva lot better about myself every single day. And, sometimes winning the small battles are far sweeter... than winning the war itself.
Semper FI
Barndog
01-07-03, 11:37 AM
Yer right Roger........
But the Marines I hang out with like to drink. And that's okay too.
LOLOL
Maybe that's primarily cause the Army and Navy guys that go there, drink also.
And - we certanly aren't going to be caught off guard, or out drank by any of those scumbags...... hell we're outnumbered 5-6 to 1. Theres 4-5+ squids and/or Army guys in there to me and/or Ken (maybe Ron, and occasionally Top.....) at any one time on a good day.
Am I reading too much into this ???? I feel like I'm defending myself...... LOLOL
Semper FI
Joe Gore
01-07-03, 11:45 AM
Good Morning or should I say Afternoon. I have to say I like sitting back and seeing how everyone gets along. I think I'm getting the hang of this email stuff. Just got this computer for the kids for Christmas. We have been a little behind the times. I Have a question for Barrio_Rat. Where you from in Eastern Oregon? When I first got out of the Marines and started my career in Law Enforcement I started with the Linn County Sheriffs Dept. out of Albany Oregon, I lived in Mill City, Or. before moving back to Michigan. Just wondering if you ever been in that area. My brother is a Deputy with Benton County out of Corvallis, Or. was Just wondering I still keep in touch with a lot of friends from oregon.
Got a funny Jarhead story I would like to share.
When i first met my wife she introduced me to her father. He just happens to be a Marine VietNam Vetran (0311). He asks me point blank "So your in the Marines"? I reply "yes sir"! He asks "you ever been to Thiland"? I replay with the biggest grin "yes sir"! He says in the most serious tone " Then we both know you should'nt be dating my Daughter"! I really did'nt know what to say. There was this silance for a few minutes while he made me sweat it out. The he smiled, gave me a beer and said welcome to the family. Leave it to a Marine! Jsut thought I'd share that. I will always remember my father in law for that. He scared the hell out of me.
Take care all. Semper FI!!!!!!!!
wrbones
01-08-03, 01:44 AM
'Mornin' folks! How the hell are ya! Coffee's on! Grab a cup and get some! Find a siddown and get yer head werkin' before ya start yer day! Paper'll be here in a bit! I get the comics!
So what we got goin' today? Oh, Joe, just keep pluggin' away. Some of it's still beyond me, but I keep hard at it, and now folks seem to think I'm some sort of search guru! ;) LOL. I only been at this computer stuff myself a matter of several months. It still seems like some sort of magic to me! I look over my shoulder now and then lookin' fer the dancin' brooms and mop buckets! In some ways, it's just a typewriter hooked up to a TV set and THAT makes it interactive TV! LOL. Ya gotta love some sorts of entertainment!
The question is: Are the folks on the other side of the screen real? or are they just actors on a stage! The rest is a matter of watchin' out fer bar bets. (advertisers)
I been havin' some fun lately. I like challenges that seem a little unlikey to some folks. Seems the harder the better in many ways. Hell, that's what life is ain't it. A continuous series of challenges. Some easier and some a bit more difficult. I figure I'm gonna give internet activism a go fer a bit and see where that goes. I used to like climbing cliffs without ropes and such. It used to be called 'free soloing'. Spent a lot of time workin' with different types of martial arts. Did the sports thing in high school. I don't drink Wild Turkey anymore, because I get to lookin' fer cops to play with. I never had any trouble with it, but it did seem somehow counterproductive when I sobered up.....
Sometimes it's good to be challenged. Some things are worth it and ya do amount to having done something constructive when ya get finished with it. Like living with a woman, maybe. Oh, ****. I said that out loud? As Marines we get used to challenges when we are on active duty. Some good and some a bit counterproductive when we look back on them.
I guess what I'm sayin' is to look at things as if they were challenges. We can accept things a little easier if they are seen as challenges and not as obstacles. Obstacle are set in the way to keep us from gettin' things done. Challenges are just that. Something new. Something different to have a go at. Challenges are fun in a lot of ways. We end up asking different questions when we look at challenges. 'How can I get this one beat?' or perhaps, " OK, where are the weaknesses in this challenge and how can I whip it.' We then set about working on a plan of some nature to overcome the challenge. When it becomes an obstacle, we quite often think that we are defeated already. Some folks like to go that way, saying to themselves, " This ain't gonna stop me!", but I'm kinda lazy sometimes, and I like doin things the easy way anymore. If can figure a way to make things a bit easier, use my head for what it was put there for, then I get the satisfaction of not having worked near as hard to get the same or maybe even better results.
I call it "Being smarter than the **** yer werkin' with."
Challenges. Kinda fun sometimes ain't they.
Warm up yer coffee, folks! Life is good! It's a new day and we got another chance to sort things out! Plan yer day out, folks. We'll get it right one of these days! If we figure things out ahead of time, we might even do it better this time!
Barndog
01-08-03, 04:39 AM
Mornin Jarheads.
I'm glad Bones went off on challenges. I started another portion of my challenge yesterday. Ya see..... my Doc told me back in August that I had better get my a$$ into Social Security and get filing for disabilty. He said a back operation or 2 isn't far off, given the location of the Rheumatoid in my back. Of course, being a Jarhead I scoffed at him (being a squid to begin with), and went on my merry way.
So, here I am 5 months later. We closed out my books for the biz, kinda got to looking at the numbers a little. I had fairly steady work all year long (cept that real slow first part of the year). I've made changes to ensure I wasn't going to move the back surgery date up any faster than I had to. The bottom line is, I ain't getting ahead. The other bottom line is - my back isn't going to get any better. The disease may go into remission, but my back isn't without surgery or 2. Because of these changes, I'm slowly slipping farther behind. And that just plain fVckin sucks!!!!!!!!!!
Ya work your whole life- and in my business of construction, theres alot of a$$holes that will openly take advantage of ya. (right Bones) So, after 20 years or so of learning the way NOT to run a business, I start my own. Then I get dealt this new hand of Rheumatoid Arthritis. Egads. Strap up the boots a little tighter, and press on.
I ain't ready to give up yet. Hell, I'm only 45. Guess if I was a multi-billionaire, I'd say the heck with it, buy that compound in Idaho, Bones and I'd build houses on it, with a CP in the damm middle. He could pay me back by comin over and making coffee every day. That's a great thought. Sure wish things like that could happen. Yeah man.. we'd line that sucker with concerntina wire, claymores, a few 50 nests stratigically located. People who came to visit would have to pick when Sparrowhawk WASN'T there...........LOL
I hope I can do it smarter this year. Watched my best bro go thru back fusion 5 times now. Maybe I do get my turn after all.
Life is still great. Pain is weakness leaving the body.
Semper FI
Earle Comstock
01-08-03, 05:19 AM
Well , first off , let me say good morning Marines . There are a couple of you that I would like to respond to . The first being FirstSgt Mike . I have no doubt that I would have had my ass handed to me by you in pool . I play a pretty good game , but you are right , and I have to admit that. For the most part I am a pretty level headed individual . Sure I have that loud mouth Marine thing going on and I like to have fun , as much as the next guy . But once I get pis*ed about something , it is very easy to keep me in that frame of mind . I know this , so I dont bet very much money , and I also may be considered an idiot at times , for a confermation on this ask my ole lady . Notice , I didnt say old lady . She will agree with that and a few other choice words . BUT , knowing this you can bet your sweet as* , I will not bet my Harleys on a pool game , although I almost lost my 43 on a SuperBowl , involving the Buffalo Bills , a few years back . Thank God I couldnt find someone to take that bet . Anyways , I have been highly agrivated lately , and I dont know why . Maybe being away from my family again for the holidays . I been feeling a little better the last few days . Damn this coffee is hot , just dribbled down the ole ladys chin , I mean down my chest . And also let me say , it would have been an honor getting a schooling at pool from you . Semper Fi
Ok the 2nd person I wish to respond to is BarnDog . Congradulations my friend and brother . 14 years is a great accomplishment . And to me , even 1 day is an accomplishment . I went to AA for about a year and a half . But I got sick of all the whining motherfvckers in there . My motto is if you dont like your life , do something about it . QUIT WHINING , so for me I quit whining and found Harley Davidson . I bought my 1st one in 1979 , which I still have . I quit drinking February 22 , 1988 , this also happens to be my fathers birthday . Only he was born in 1934 . Anyways , on the 22nd of February , each year I call him to wish him a Happy Birthday , he congradulates me on making it another year . On 7 September 1987 I was involved in a motorcycle accident . I had my best friend on the back of my fathers 1980 Harley Davidson FLT . I totaled his bike , My best friend came out of it with a busted ankle , and I broke my leg in 3 places , lost 10% of my knee cap , broke my nose and chipped a tooth . I looked like an organ grinder at a fag convention . To top this all off , I had no license . So , the accident was my fault , so says the courts and by theory I guess its right . You be the judge . I didnt have a license , so I shouldnt have been driving , If I wasnt driving , I wouldnt have been at the site of the accident , and If I wasnt there , the accident never would have happened . Now I had a full leg cast on , for damn near 6 months . When my father came to the hospital to see me , the first words out of his mouth were , are you alright . Blew me away , just totaled his bike . I didnt quit drinking right away though . But I sure had alot of time to think . And the thinking part was tougher than facing my dad or my best bud . I wrecked my Dads Harley and broke my best buddies ankle , hell I could have killed him . So on my Fathers Birthday , February 22 , 1988 , I was getting fvcked up on Labatts beer and Hard Cider that another friend made . It was My best Bud , another good friend , my Dad and myself , just getting drunk . All of a sudden I slam down the beer bottle Im drinking from and say "Thats it , Thats my last fvcking beer" . Everybody looks at me and says "Yea , Right " "Fvckin lier". Well that was almost 15 years ago . Now on October 18th of 2002 , I Quit smoking . Now the only habits I have left are caffine and knuckle shuffeling my p*ss pump . Hey its My hand and my soap , I'll wash it as fast as I want to .
When I bought my First Harley , I bought it in the Phillipines . I've told bits and pieces of that story , and it is quite interesting . One thing I have not told yet is that My buddie in the Corp , Jack Speed Moore , Thats his real name . I always thought that was cool for some reason . Anyways I bought a 1943 74in Flatty , and he bought a 1942 45in flatty . I just talked with him in 2001 , I still have my bike that I bought in the Corp 23 years ago . He sold his for cocaine , about a year before I talked with him . I just think that its easy to quit sh*t , if you want to bad enough . Then I have to realize , for some people , its not that easy . For them I say God Bless , If you believe in that . If you dont , good luck . But for real Barn Dog Congradulations ! I think for me I always have that fear that I will . I've had alot of ups ands downs in the last 15 years , and by no means has it been easy . Just surround yourself with good friends , visit your brothers in here daily , and be good to yourself ALWAYS ! Then it will get better , slowly but surely. Dont look like you need any words of wisdom BarnDog , but for you that feel the need , dont hesitate to ask . I guess I've ran my lips enough so Im signing off . Theres a fresh pot on , enjoy the day and respect your elders . Semper Fi , Do Or Die:marine: Kill A Commie For Mommy :rambo: Cpl Commie
Earle Comstock
01-08-03, 06:24 AM
One more question for you First Sgt Mike . Do you have a son , who was also a Marine , that was with A Co. 1/3 in 1978 ? Cpl Comstock:marine:
Barndog
01-08-03, 07:03 AM
Like they told me in AA Earle..... take what ya need and leave the rest behind.
So, I did. And, since then I aint never been afraid to ask for help.
Semper FI
firstsgtmike
01-08-03, 07:20 AM
Earle,
No such luck. I've got a brother who retired in '80 but in '78 he was in D.C. I've got four coming up now, 7, 6, 2, and 1/2 and hopefully, one or more of them will do the right thing.
Barndog,
Sometimes asking for help gives the other guy a chance to feel good about himself.
Semper Fi
Earle Comstock
01-08-03, 07:30 AM
I respect what you are doing . I know you have to do what works for you , and from the sounds of it you enjoy it very much . I know the enjoyment makes it that much easier . Now this is what made me quit , now remember I now live close to Seattle . But I was going to a meeting close by , it was a na/aa meeting . I just figure addictions are addictions , the only thing that makes them different are the names . So I'm at this na meeting and it looks like a couple are there trying to work on there addictions . Well now they start kissing and I'm about to tell them , in the nicest way I know how . The Marine way dont you know , to get a room . When they turn a certain way , I realize its two sperm burpers . Now old Cpl commie has a real problem with them cum guzzleing bast*rds . I can just picture them guzzleing warm quarts of mayonaise for practice , but not in my presence . Or if I heard one of them say to the other , I dont like you fvckin me in the as* no more , the last time you did your hemmoroids stuck to the sides of my dick , and when I pulled it out it looked like a tube sock . Call me homophobic if you want , if you call homophobic hating fags , than I guess I am . I think you should take all fags , put them on an Island then drop the a-bomb on them . I dont think it is fair for them to breathe the same air as me . That is my opinion and only my opinion , but dammit its mine . Anyways that was a big factor in leaving aa/na . And its almost 15 years now , I gotta be doing something right . Keep up the good work Barn Dog. I may even call on you from time to time . Semper Fi , Do Or Die , Cpl CommieKill A Commie For Mommy :rambo:
thedrifter
01-08-03, 08:19 AM
Goodmorning
Well it finally stopped snowing......Cold right now but it is warming up for the next 2 days...We will be in the 50's......
I have to enjoy while I can...because they are saying the cold id coming back with more snow by the weekend.....
Challenges.....life is a challenge.....and if you don't like it you change it......
Bones you are going in the right direction.....but one person alone doesn't change it.....If more do what you are doing our voice will be heard.....but I do believe we need to take it a step higher......
Barndog.....Hell 45 is a good age...still young and full of life....I sure can remember them days......Anyhow Ellie likes that age...
;) that is how old she is....Yea she isn't afraid to tell it.....and she sure doesn't look it...take my word.....
I understand your pain....Do what you have too.....Life is to short....
All have a good day..........
Sempers,
Roger
Red Dragon
01-08-03, 11:21 AM
Life is too short, so let us enjoy each day as they come. There is so much to do and so little time to accomplish all. So we do the best that we can.
Coffee is good today, so I'll sit back and relax a little while enjoying a cup or two.
So everybody have a good day and enjoy life to the fullest.
The Red Dragon aka HL
wrbones
01-09-03, 01:43 AM
'Mornin' folks! Coffee's on! Grab a cup and find a place to park it! It don't get any better than this does it! Well, 'cept fer sex and such...anyway. Paper'll be here directly. Make yerselves comfortable fer a bit. Hell, yer day ain't started yet!
It's been beautiful here the last couple weeks. Low to mid-sixties during the day. Had shirt-sleeve weather! Sit out on the deck and kick back. No jackets or nothin'! Wind gets a bit chilly, but it hasn't been all that bad. On the other hand, they got fire warnings out. If it keeps up, the whole Black Hills is goin up in smoke next summer! This drought has hit local businesses hard. Lots of folks goin' out of business. Other things are around to carry the load somewhat, but there's still a lot of impact from ranching out here. Some of the smaller towns are goin' to be shut down completely if it keeps up.
Didn't mean to make that tie in, but it's gonna work. I was just gonna mention loss again fer a few minutes.Seems funny how things affect ya with that stuff, from major things like business and family members to "Where did I put that blasted hammer."
We end up feelin' it all, and it keeps afffecting us down through the years whether we like it or not. Ya kinda get over some of it. Some of it ya just get used to. Other things ya never seem to forget. Like it happened yesterday. Long as it doesn't sour ya on dealin with other folks, I guess we'll do all right with it.
The thing about loss anad pain, it can open things up to where ya can have a positive impact on other lives and the way they deal with things. Maybe you can help them through things some. Just bein' there can be a help. Not sayin' much, but just bein' there. A little company is all we need at times. Other times, it don't hurt a bit to have a shoulder to cry on. Yes, we've all experienced that type of pain and loss as well. It's how ya deal with it that counts. Talk to someone. Visit with folks about it. Throw a fit, get the worst of it outta yer system and deal with it if ya can.
Then do yer best to get off yer butt and do somethin' about it...even if that's just bein' company fer someone else down the road. Helpin' other folks in the same situation is a part of healin'.
Warm up yer coffee, folks! It's a good day! We got a new chance to get itright! Another opportunity! We'll get it sorted out one of these days!
Don't ferget to plan yer day out before ya get started! ;) LOL
Earle Comstock
01-09-03, 04:39 AM
Morning all
Hows things in your part of the world ? Here , well they just got better yesterday . They signed the bill to extend unemployment bennies . I was just getting ready to run out .
Coffee is good this morning , you didn't put nothing in it did ya Bones ? Hell I may stick around for another cup . I ran out of coffee here at the house , times are tough , sorry I gotta sponge off you all . I'll buy the next couple cans.
The weather here lately has been fantastic . Thats real good for me seeing as I ride my H-D everyday . Thats what my ole lady says , that she gets to ride my h-d (hard-dick) every day .
I'm really in to the NHRA ,Drag Racing , so this is a bad time of the year for me . It stops in November and starts again the end of February . Nothing like watching Funny Cars run over 320mph , and the Top Fuel Dragsters run over 330mph in the 1/4 mile . 6,000 to 7,000 horsepower. We have a track here in Seattle , and the NHRA comes to town the end of July each year . If you have never seen these cars run in person , do yourself a favor and go , if there is a track near you . You will be hooked , and take ear protection , you'll need it .
I'm gonna sign off for now , gotta a feeling you think I'm rambling .
Semper Fi Marines
Be good to yourself and respect your elders
Cpl Commie:rambo: Kill A Commie For Mommy :rambo:
Barndog
01-09-03, 04:50 AM
Yeah, continuing yesterday's saga, and the segueway with Bones -
When you are diagnosed with a condition such as I have, you inevitably run into people who have like ailments. I had some before I found out myself. 3 of them 2 with Lupus, one with an aggressive stomach cancer. Our one friend with Lupus died (at 31, leaving a 13 yr old daughter), and the lady with the cancer passed away also. Since that time (the last year or so) - I've had a couple more people come into my life - with Lupus and RA.
Now, my one friend who has Lupus is quite active in educating people about it -and other autoimmune disorders. She formed a support group in Ann Arbor, Michigan. That is going fantastic. I'm beyond thrilled for her. Her health is steady, but like me, she has her days (weeks). Now, a Marine Bro - his wife works with mine..... was having great difficulty with illnesses. My wife told me about her issues, I thought about it, and told her 'Lupus'. She agreed. Well, back at Wheatland in Sept... we have our 'usual gathering' of music, friends, family, food and beverage (heavy on the beverage). Jamie (My Bro's wife) a beautiful woman of 30 starting asking me questions. I told her what I thought, and gave her one of my Doc's cards (the Navy Doc - Rheumatologist). A few weeks later she calls, crying..... I guess Todd (my Marine Bro - her hubby) - just can't understand WTF is going on. I asked her some qestions - and she tells me her Sister is going to my Doc - and she's gonna wait until he tells her what's up.
I had to interceed on my Brother's behalf. I explained to her the differences of diseases, and what the end result is. The answers are not pretty. I also told her if she waited for her sister, she would only be squeezing the trigger, because her sister is different than her. Was she willing to take her chances on when the gun would go off... Well.... hard as it was for her - she listened. A couple weeks before Christmas I get a call - from her. She started her medication treatments, and was having a very hard time adjusting, and of course - expected immediate results. I told her my experience was about the same. 'Tough it out babe - it's gonna get better' - she was crying again.
Christmas Eve Day... I get a call from Todd - they're on their way up North to Grammas for Christmas. He give me his OOH RAAHH and Christmas Spirit stuff..... and sez 'my wife want to talk to ya, I gotta split'.. ok. Jamie gets on the phone and sez ' Tony, I'm so glad I listened to you. I feel fanstasitc. About 3 days after I called you last, I started feeling better. Todd told me last night, that he feels like he got his 'old wife back'. I told her to kick his a$$ LMAO
I do things about what I can, when I can, and to the best of my ability. I, somedays, might be one miserable S.O.B from this bastard disease . I try not to whine too much. But, sometimes that sh!t just happens. Not an obstacle. A minor setback.
I think of the people that have been lost to it. I then think of the people I've put in the hands of the right people - the ones that will tell them straight up- no BS. I abhorr watching people suffer in pain. Especially if they don't have to.
If the worst part of your day, is better than someone in a nursing home, yer pretty damm lucky. If you can give someone in a worse situation than yourself a hand to help them out, you've done more for yourself than you realized.
I'd rather be looked at on the final day by what I gave.... not what I have. Karma does fulfill itself.
Semper FI
wrbones
01-10-03, 02:03 AM
'Mornin' Folks! How the hell are ya this mornin'! I looked at yesterday's paper and it tells me that today is supposed to be Friday! Plug away at her! Saturday's comin'!
Well, coffee's on! What the hell ya waitin' for! An invitation! Yer home! Get yer own cup of joe! LOL. Cups are above the sink, and sugar's by the pot if ya take it that way!
Let's see. I was thinkin' about somethin' earlier, what was it...
Well, while I'm tryin' to remember that, I want y'all to go take a look at the post by First Sergeant Mike on that "Top Shooter" thread by Seeley. Seeley's a good kid and he's been hangin' around the site fer quite a bit now. I've visited with him in chat a number of times as well. Thing is, I've haven't seen a post like the First Sergeant's since I been online. The best said bit of wisdom and advice I've seen or heard in over twenty years. It doesn't get any better than that, I don't think. I'm at a loss for words to describe that post.
Thing is, there's a lot of folks runnin' around with similiar things to share that benefit us all. I'm a little relieved as well. It was gettin real uncomfortable to be the only one around here that folks thought had somethin' like that worth hearin'. LOL. I know me, though, I'm the biggest damn fool that ever come down the road!
Once ya know yer just another fool, some things get easier after that. You can relax a little and just be yerself and not put on any kinda show fer anybody. Don't haveta worry as much about what folks think about ya, or worry about 'bein' a man', whatever that means. Ya just get to be yerself and go on about things the best ya know how. Some folks call it bein' 'transparent'. One of the things I call it is bein real. Bein' a human bein' on this earth. Don't mean yer a wimp or a pussy. Don't mean yer perfect. Don't mean ya got all the answers, hell you can even tell folks upfront ya don't know and go on about yer business without feelin' bad about it. It means you can help folks, too, without worryin' about anything else. It even means ya can screw up, say ya screwed up, and move on, doin yer best next time. Things like that don't ride ya as much.
It's one aspect of freedom. Plus ya learn to really take responsibility for yer words and actions. Take the hit, do yer best to get it un ****ed and move on.
Well, that's a lot of stuff in a paragraph or two, I guess. I suppose it's time to warm up yer joe, get yer day sorted out and get ready fer the weekend ain't it!
It's a new day folks! We got another chance to get it right, Hell, if we ain't just real careful, we might even do it better this time!
Barrio_rat
01-10-03, 03:20 AM
Morning all...
Well Bones, what was it that you were thinkin' about? LOL Yer right though, that post by the 1stSgt was very good. I've known firearms enthusiasts who are dead apposed to paint ball for the very reason it makes "shooting people" a game.
Well, it's still my work week and I'm beginning to win this battle against the damn cold I've got. I didn't catch it. It snuck up behind me and clobbered me with a bat! LOL Well, some of the sore throat is gone and I'm caughing less. Damned if it ain't tryin' it's best to hang on though...
I got two more days of work this week with a 3 day weekend. In fact, I got 3 day weekends for the rest of the month! Now that's just dandy! Today, before I go in to work, I'll be bidding for my shift and days off - hoping for Sun/Mon on 3rd shift, we'll see. Seems they are doing things a bit different this time around. Before, since we bid only shift and days off, they could put us on any post that fell within those restraints - leaving us with no option of where we would be placed, no matter our prefference. Well, seems the powers that be are allowing us to not only bid shift and days off but to pick, by seniority, any post on that shift and days off we bid that is available to us. This allows people to choose which Lt's, Sgt, fellow staff and/or which posts they will be placed with/on. I'm thinkin this is a start of a good thing! Wish me luck, cuz these buttheads here don't recognize my time with the other institution I was with... Would be like losing all of your time in grade if you were transfered to a new unit/duty station - it just ain't right. But, we're workin' on it!
Semper Fi and have a great day, all!
Sparrowhawk
01-10-03, 05:33 AM
Everyday is Saturday!
In the company of many there is great wisdom! So, I guess I keep coming here and hoping some of it will rub off.
Our local School Board Battle is now going into its second phase; wife says I haven’t slept so soundly in the 25 years we've been married. Guess doing helping others, getting things accomplish, holding people accountable, has its benefits.
I know others seem to think I look younger, and more redheads are giving me the eye, so I guess getting involved and doing good helps in many ways.
The Superintendent of schools wants to meet with me, get thing straighten out, told him it'll be open to others as accountability to the public is what its all about. Waiting to hear back from him.
Still, need a break, always enjoy driving and need to get away think clearly. Long drives always help me think, enjoy driving in the rain, coffee's good this morning its going to be a bit cloudy in the sky and only about 72, so the sun won't be shining.
Oh, and Bones, move on over this old fool will walk down that road with you anytime, of course won't let you walk in front, cause you might fart or behind, cause won't know what you'll be up to, but by my side, two fools walking down the road together will be fine... LOL
Sempers everyone
Cook
PS
Barrio_rat snugged in and posted while I was a thinking, so didnt see that he was feeling badly, so I'll have a shot of JD for him this evening, or maybe two..
Barrio_rat
01-10-03, 01:22 PM
Thanks much, Sparrowhawk.. I think I'm gonna need it! LOL
wrbones
01-11-03, 01:02 AM
'Mornin' folks! How the hell are ya this mornin'! Coffee's on, grab a cup and set fer a spell. Paper'll be along after a bit.
How you people doin' this mornin' anyway? Ya got all weekend to get over it! LOL. I don't have much at all. Got a little chilly here. Finally got below freezin' today. 8 degrees! Not a bit of snow in sight! I just been kickin' back this mornin'. Not a thought goin' through my head! LOL. Well, nothin' that goes with coffee anyway! ;)
I have been wonderin' at the way folks think, but I done wondered about that awhile back! Well, I'll just wonder about it again, I reckon. Seems like with some folks they add one plus one and get five somehow. Must be the new math.... I ain't showin' my age am I? My nephew turned eighteen recently. How come he looks like a baby! LOL. They're gettin younger, I ain't gettin' older! I remember bein' that age. I didn't get my head outta my ass til a few years later. Some do, though! Give them and their parents credit fer that. I can't say that I was really thinkin' much at that age. At least not about much of anything but myself and what I wanted or needed.
Some folks, it seems don't ever start thinkin' fer themselves. The first thing that comes up that sounds good they go along with and then won't quit it no matter what other evidence jumps up and hits them between the eyes.
A person oughta think for themselves. Look at both sides of things, find all the information they can, and then make up their own minds about it. The important thing is gettin all the information about stuff before ya go spoutin' off too much.
Some folks dismiss every argument before hand but their own version of the truth and then will stand up and try to crow about it. Those folks seem to forget that there are others out and about who just might have a different point of view with more or better information. Not that I've ever done that.....Other folks I've met have been plenty old enough to know better and still spoutin' their ignorance for all the world to see...Not that I've ever done that....Some don't know a thing about nuthin' and keep their mouths shut hopin' nobody'll ask them what they think about stuff. They hope they won't be shown to be as ignorant as they really are. I ain't done that one either.....Some just keep blappin' away thinkin' that lots of words will cover their ignorance....Nope. I sure ain't done that before......but speakin' of which.....
It's time to warm up yer coffee folks! It's Saturday! Relax, hug the ol' lady and have some fun today. Instead of shovelin the sidewalk, go out and build a snowman or somethin'. If yer smart, you'll start it right at the front door and roll it right down the sidewalk...well, on ocassion, I am smarter than the stuff I work with, but...I'm still workin' on all this. When I get 'er figgered out, I'll let ya know!
It's a new day, folks! we'll get 'er right one of these days! Might even do it better if we pay attention! It's a new opportunity folks. Take advantage of it.
Barrio_rat
01-11-03, 01:30 AM
Morning all...
Not a lot going on here... It may be Saturday but it ain't my weekend... yet. Still got the cold, but am on the up-swing with it. Got friends and family makin' their way over in the next couple days. Gonna baptize the lil' one on Sunday and have a get together afterward - should be fun for all. Plenty of lumpia, pansit and other such treats - not to mention FOOTBALL! LOL I'm sure the wife is gonna love that!
Y'all have a great day and Semper Fi!
leroy8541
01-11-03, 08:36 AM
mornin all coffee is on and delicious, tagged out on deer so here i am on a beautiful saturday sitting in front of the comp. My son is not tagged yet I would love to get video of him putting an arrow thru a monster Buck a plan for next weekend!!
Joe Gore
01-11-03, 09:12 AM
Good Morning all. I'm getting a late start today. Got my 9 month old on my lap and it's kinda hard to type. Congrats Leroy on tagging out a deer. I missed my chance at three Does this year. Oh well better luck next year. I did take my 10 year old daughter with me. She wanted to go to deer camp. So I said lets go. She got a good taste of staying in Norther Michigan in a tent. She did was with me when i took a shoot at a doe. Didn't think i would see one since she was talking and making a lot of noise so of course I had the rifle slung over my shoulder. And of course there was a nice doe bout 50 yards out. Just barley got the rifle in the shoulder and one shot off as she was running away. Oh well it'll make a great story for around the deer camp fire for years to come. Gonna take my boy next year. Got five (5) kids. yup thats right 5. I think i'm going to get a real big tent.
It's gonna be a beautiful day in S/E Michigan. might hit 25 degrees be in the teens with the wind chill. got to love it. Loved it in Bridgeport in the cold and snow. I loved watching those Marines from the South that had never seen snow or cold like that it was kinda amuseing.
well gotta go. I got enough time for one more cup. Got my father in law coming over. We gotta go sign my two oldest boys up for Karate I guess. Like a good Marine. I just do what I'm told what the boss (wife) tells me to. I got a good wife. She has been there from the start. Through the training, deployments, war and LA Riots. Guess i just got lucky still got her after all these years.
Hope everyone has a great Day.
Semper FI.
leroy8541
01-11-03, 09:52 AM
Wow a deer hunter in Mich. I have always wanted to try a hunt there I have heard stories and seen the Monster bucks you guys have up there. Well on the missed one did anyone get your shirttail yet? Deer camp can be alot of fun, my son missed a nice buck the other day I chased him around and took his shirt tail and hung it up in camp for everyone to see he said he will never miss again!! The begginning of the next generation of Marine Corp Sniper program is now in action!!
Barndog
01-11-03, 12:21 PM
Round our camp, we shoot each other's hats. I'm the only Marine, so I have a cover. Mine has never been shot either. Where ya hunt at, Joe? My Bro (Marine) has 160 acres in the Western U.P. about 15 miles this side of Lake Gogebic. (West end) Has a damm fine camp available also. If yer interested that is...
I have only hunted once in the past 12 years. No time. I'd rather spend my time fishing anyways.
Ya..... speakin of snow and cold.. the year Leroy (my Bro in the UP) fu*ked his back up, I moved there. We only got 290" of snow that winter. Te second operation he had, I drove from there to Milwalkee and back during a blizzard - in order to get him out of the hospital. That was a 16 hour drive from hell.
I went home in early April. The following winter, they got 330" of snow.
That's the 'snow belt' ya hear about in the UP - west of Marquette into the Porkies.
Semper FI
wrbones
01-12-03, 04:27 AM
'Mornin' folks! Coffee's up! Grab a cup and get settled somewhere! Paper'll be here directly. I got the front page and the comics!
I do have somethin' on my mind today. Been kinda runnin' around in the back of my mind fer a few days now.
In some ways, ya know, I really don't remember what bein' on active duty was like. Some of the little things. Terminology. Some of the equipment, maybe. Even the stuff I used to do on those helos on a day to day basis. I mean aside from all the things that have to have changed. I'm sure I could pick it up pretty quick if I had to, but still....
One of the most important lessons I learned when I was in, was about bein' off yer normal duties fer almost any length of time. Ya lose yer timing. Ya ain't as smooth as ya were before. Ya ferget what it was really like. The little things. Ya tend to give folks hell who are doin' the best they can. Causin' them more stress than they really got coming.
I learned it and I remember two different times it affected me. Of course, the second time I was a more aware. I ended up on light duty fer six months. They put me behind a desk. As if that wasn't aggravation enough, it turns out I was good at that sort thing, too. About five months into it, I had a Marine come in whinin' and cryin' and I just raised holy hell with him. He had some comin', but not like I laid it on him! Well, I finally got off my light duty and got back out to workin' and it dawned on me, that that Marine was right fer the most part. Not in his presentation, but in essence. I'd fergotten what it was like! I made it up to him, but I hated apologizin'! LOL.
The other time this happened, I'd been on leave. Went on 30 days and it was about the time a lot of changes were comin down all over. Technically and otherwise!. I knew what was comin' when I got back! Yep. It took near two weeks to get back up to speed on things!
Oh, I remember a lot of things! It wasn't called the crotch fer nothin'! I remember formations, inspections, workin til ya dropped, gettin' up and workin' some more. I remember butt chewings...both givin' and gettin'. I remember a lot of things.
I wonder though...how much have I really forgotten about bein' on active duty.
My heart's still there! I could do it again if I hadda.
It'd be the ****s startin out as a Private again, though! LOL
Warm up yer coffee, folks! It's a good day! Time to kick back and relax. Hold the old lady. Love yer kids and grandkids. Take a day off.
We'll get it right one of these days. Might even get it better if we keep at it.
leroy8541
01-12-03, 08:57 AM
Good morning all coffee is on, so grab a cup and and lets get the day started, the dang hounds got my paper again, little bastards. you know i like to let them run loose as pups tends to make a better hound, but now I'm pi$$ed so I'm gonna have to put em in the pen or shoot em. have a good day if you can if you can't then don't kill any one unless you have to.
firstsgtmike
01-12-03, 09:32 AM
Bones,
I don't think either one of us would make PFC if we tried to do it all over again. We got smart. The Corps got smarter.
Leroy,
You have the wrong attitude about pups.
They make great bar-b-que, and if you're interested I'll send you some recipes.
And before anyone starts *****in, I'll skin a cat and a rabbit, and dare you to tell me which is which.
(Some things they teach you in E&E school stay with you forever.)
leroy8541
01-12-03, 09:41 AM
sorry 1st sgt. I never aquired the taste for Aso I'd rather eat a coon, but if you could send me the recipe for adobo I would really appreciate it my first wife used to cook it all the time and I love it. (She is a filipina) but she won't even speak to me now nor will any of her fillipina friend they are kinda funny that way, so i cannot get the recipe.
Joe Gore
01-12-03, 10:51 AM
Hey Leroy it's Joe from Michigan. Yes sir we got some monster bucks in S/E Michigan where i live. Got plenty corn for them to eat. But were i hunt in northern Mighigan the winters are hard and theres not that much food so they don't get that big. And yes i'll be hearing bout my misses for the next year until i make up for it. where bouts you from in Arkansas. I was just there for a couple weeks last year. Got plenty of family in Arkansas. I get down there every other year to visit. I spend time in Mena, Mt. Ida and a few other small towns. Been tryn for years to get my cousins up here for a hunt. No luck so far. Maybee next year. If your interested we now have the Worlds Largest Hunting/Camping store in Cabella's. It's only about 15 miles from my house. If your in to hunting fishing or camping it's a store you must see. It is truely amazing. I think you can pull it up on line at Cabellas.com.
Hey barndog thanks for the invite for a hunt. Might take you up on it. I live way south near the MI. / Ohio line. Takes me bout 10 hours or to get up to the UP. Thats why we down here always say we go up north cuz from where we live thats the only way to go. I hunt with my father in law up in the Luther area in Lake county. theres good state land and seem to be plenty of deer. I just can't seem to hit one. I've never been in the UP during the winter but i hear you guys get hit hard with the snow. My father in law are looking to buy some property up there just a little get a way. I hear you can get property still from about $1,000 an acre. Not like down here where it's going for between $20k and $30k an acre. It's geeting out of hand. Anyway hope you stay wram and dont get to snowed in.
Firstsgtmike glad to hear that Marines are still eating pup in the PI. I have very fond memories about being plastered to no end not having much money left and being starved to death. You could always count on those little BBQ stands with the meat on the stick. Man those were great. I'm not sure if I really want to know what the meat was. But i do know it was good and hit the spot after a night on the town. Have things canged much in the PI? I got lcuky when we pulled in to port my ship (USS Cleveland) broke down. Half of the Marines got to transfer to other ships and go to Hong Kong and Singapore for Liberty Ports. I was not one that got to go. So I ended up with basicly had 93 dyas of liberty in the PI. Only had to show up for PT and formation every few days. Man what a time we had. Never knew I could drink that much and party that hard. I did get a chance to do other things and see some of the country. Hope things are going good for you there.
Well be going on and on for a while gotta got the old lady be yelling for me. What else is new.
Semper FI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barndog
01-12-03, 11:02 AM
Heck Joe, we hunted for years (boys still do) in Luther. Out N of town in the State land. From where we camp (I could drive ya there), we're about 5 miles W of Bristol. I don't need no stinkin map. I got a left hand. LOL
No Brother - I live in Lansing. Most of my life actually in the immediate area in farmin country. My Bro Leroy, he moved up there in '88. Started a beef farm after havin too much of this city life here. LMAO The wife and I were in Greektown last weekend for a play...... first time I been that deep into the MoTown since I went in the Corps. So, that might give you an idea of how often I drive yer way. Ann Arbor is as close as I like to get. And thats only for music.....
Gotta go watch football, and drink some beers. Hey, it's past noon here......
Semper FI
leroy8541
01-12-03, 12:15 PM
hey Joe I'm from the n.e. corner of Arkansas we got swamps, mountains, farmlands, for hunting deer here but they are not as massive as the cornfed monsters you guys got up there. I know where mena and mt. Ida are though, up in the hills.
Has cabellas gotten bigger than bass pro? have you seen the bass pro shop in springfield mo. i been there a couple of times it is huge. I get the cabellas catalog every quarter they got alot of stuff.
firstsgtmike
01-12-03, 12:46 PM
Short story.
1973. Contact team for 12th District Recruiting Service.
Got off the plane in Great Falls, the local Recruiter picked me up and took me to a motel. (I usually bunked with the local recruiter, but this one had three kids and a two bedroom house.)
On the way into town, I noticed the great quantity of pick-ups with rifles in the rifle racks. His comment. Deer season opens tomorrow.
I awoke, Under my bed, trying to dig a deeper hole in the hardwood floor. It sounded like WWIII. I quit, when I realized it was the opening day of deer hunting searon.
I also knew there was 60 lbs. of lead expended for every deer that was taken that day.
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I had a friend tell me that the last time he went deerhunting, he back packed in for twenty miles arriving the night before he season opened.
Rifle in hand, red vest, red cap on he slept with his back to a giant tree waiting for the break of day.
He awoke, the sun had barely shone its light, started to stand, and WHAM, a bullet entered the tree about six inches above his head.
He wanted to go back to Vietnam, it was safer there.
leroy8541
01-12-03, 05:32 PM
I personnally do not get into alot of modern gun hunting I love to bow hunt. I have heard the stories o horrible hunters in the woods. Just this year I was sitting about 35 feet in the tree all camoed up when a good ole boy came thru squirrell hunting I seen him coming about 100 yards thru the woods with his shotgun swung across his shoulders. I watched him for a while he stopped 30 yds from me to take a leak! Now here was the dilemma should I yell and scare this sob and get shot or think real small maybe he won't see me and pass right thru? Well he spotted me I decided to light a smoke there is only one animal on earth that I know of that smokes cigs to bad this dumb bastard didn't know this he swung downflipped off the safety now its time to holler. Luckily he checked his fire with a little cussin from me! whoever heard of a squirrel sitting on a limb smokin a butt. he looks at me and says you ain't gonna kill nothin sittin there smokin bub.
wrbones
01-13-03, 01:38 AM
'Mornin' folks! How the hell are ya! What a day, huh! Grab a cup of java and set fer a bit. It ain't quite time to get started yet! Paper'll be here directly!
Some people and there kids, huh! I dunno. Talkin' about huntin'!Next thing ya know, it'll be politics, religion and life lessons! LMAO!
Last shootin' hunt I was on was at Boquillas Ranch in Arizona. You'd think up there with all those mesas, scrub brush and hills you'd be liable to see no one! Hell, there was a camp not a mile from us, had one guy walkin on our meat by the third day, then had some magazine wrtiers drivin' the roads on the second day! Though I shoulda set up a cafe or somethin' before we were outta there. Some damn big deer though! Guy I went with was the first time I'd gone huntin with him. He thought he'd be doin' good to sight his rifle in at fifty yards....closest shot he had was near three hundred! LOL. Blew the hunt really. He unloaded his magazine. I know from tracks I'd seen that the least we coulda done was put some meat inna freezer. Lots of deer up there, Only three or four that were trophies where we were at. Saw a trophie in the brush on the first day. Couldn't get a shot at him fer the life of me. Think that damn deer was smarter than I was.The whole thing was a cock-up with the other guy not seemingly knowin how to hunt and all.
I haven't been out since, 'cept to stalk 'em fer fun. Hell, I got meat in the freezer. Only reason I have fer huntin', really. Time ya get through payin' fer everything, it's too rich fer my pocketbook, anymore anyway. Plus I can't do the humpin' now in any case. I woulda liked to have dropped that deer on Boquillas Ranch, though. That'd been worth it....
I don't even know what to say about all that. Just ramblin'.
Time to warm up yer coffee, folks. Plan yer day out. We'll get it figgered out one of these days! Hell, it's a new day! Time to go take advantage of it!
Barrio_rat
01-13-03, 03:58 AM
Morning all...
Well, yesterday our baby was baptized. It was a good day. It's a new church for us but one that we plan to attend regularly and one that I think will be good for our family. My sister-in-law came out for the event as well as my mother - long trips for them both. We had a nice get together after the service at our house with friends and family - the women gossipped and the men watched football. She now has 4 sets of God Parents - a very lucky child! A good day with plenty of lumpi and pansit - several other dishes I don't know the name of (or just can't spell/pronounce). The wife cooked up some briskette all night in a crock pot - in some oyster sauce with fresh slices of pineapple - damn good side of meat there!
For all that have been wondering, the baby is doing very well. A healthy little girl - no serious issues to date and for that, we count ourselves quite blessed.
When my sister-in-law leaves on Tuesday, my mother-in-law will be going with her. Her plan is to stay with her other daughter for a few months, then return to the Philippines for a few moths and then return to be with us sometime in June or July. This may end up changing and she may come back earlier to us and not go back to the Philippines - unrest in the family and things she just doesn't need to get in the middle of at this time. This will give the wife and I a needed break for a while - though it will also mean that we'll have to watch the baby even more. Yeah, as much as the child has been spoiled with all the people to hold her, my wife and I have been spoiled in that we have had some freedoms that many parents do not. Still, it will be good for out family to bond more wile the mother-in-law is away.
Well, that's my story for now... y'all have a great day.
Semper Fi!
leroy8541
01-13-03, 06:17 AM
Mornin every one, coffee is on, 2nd pot, got today off work on a little mini vacation. sounds like everyone had a nice weekend great ballgames. Looks like cold weather and snow for you northern based guys and sun and fun for us guys in the south.
I had to get up early I have to get the drop on the hounds for my paper this morning! The kids have talked me into dropping them off at school since I don't have anything better to do.
Well everyone have a great day, I'll be in the area all day, carry on.
Semper Fi
greybeard
01-13-03, 06:33 AM
Coffee works for me-in more ways than one. Coax that old Jeep to life & I'll head for work. Don't want to, but she makes me do it.
Has certain fringe bennies if ya catch my drift, but @ my age they're getting further between. I'll check in later tonite for some pearls of wisdom.
Don
thedrifter
01-13-03, 09:49 AM
Goodmorning
Cold but bright outside.....it looks like that all week......there is a chance of snow.....but what can I do....LOL.....I hate snow......
It's been a good weekend....Did a little relaxing.....hell I do that all the time.......LOL......but I do feel refresh to start out a new week..........
Great to see some new faces.....Welcome All......
We talk about anything in here.....just a place to sit around and chat with all ......The coffee is always on.......So pour some....and Enjoy.......
Well All Have A Good Day.......
Sempers,
Roger
wrbones
01-14-03, 01:48 AM
'Mornin' folks! How the hell ya doin' this mornin'! Coffee's on! Ya better grab a cup and get settled fer a bit! Hell, the day ain't started! You got a minute or two! Paper'll be here directly! I got the comics! Comics are the best place to get the news didn't ya know that? LOL. Think about it!
What's the topic fer this mornin'? I mean besides booze and broads! No, no, no. I ain't in the mood fer football either! Don't watch it anymore anyway.Well, we could visit about friendship, I suppose. Possibly ...well, I got an idea....no, I'll save that fer another time. I need to think it over some more first.
I know! We'll talk aboiut me! LOL. I've said this before, but some folks don't seem to believe it. I've heard some folks go on about my spellin' when I'm fixin' coffee, some go on about grammar and structure and such. I've said repeatedly that I'm just doin' this til someone better comes along. I get goin' and start ramblin'. Talkin' about the first thing that comes to mind and I don't often go back and fix stuff, 'cept sometimes fer the typos and such. Well, it ain't english class. We're just visitin' is all!
Visitin' with folks is good for ya sometimes. I don't necessarily like it myself. Next thing ya know your havin a few beers together and ya got some feller throwin up on the backseat floorboards! I might tolerate that out of a brother maybe, but he'd get an earful!
Then ya get the folks who just bend yer ear to no end. Troubles this and troubles that. Hell, I got troubles of my own. I might tolerate that kinda nonsense out of a brother though. Of course I'd do my best to do what I could for him.
Sometimes you'd end up with them needin' stuff when ya ain't hardly got enough fer yerself, but if he was a brother, I guess I'd let him have it if he needed it.
Sometimes.....
Sometimes it's good to have friends and brothers. I'd do anything for you folks. Don't be tossin' yer cookies in the car, though! The ol lady'll throw a fit!
Friendship...
Well, hell. What are we gonna talk about tomorrow......
Warm up yer coffee, folks, it's another day. We got another chance to screw it up...I mean...get it right! LOL.
It's a new day! A new opportunity! Go take advantage of it, will ya! ;)
Earle Comstock
01-14-03, 02:57 AM
Morning all , it's raining again . Imagine that , I live in Seattle . Most people get sick of the snow , I miss it . Comes from when I was a kid and riding snowmobiles .
I'd probably like it for a couple weeks and I'd get sick of it too . A couple years ago I was working at this Machine shop down in the valley . We got about 6" of snow . I go to work , and when I get there the owner an I were the only 2 there . So he says fvck it if no one else shows up , I aint a gonna make you work . So , I sat in his office with him for a couple hours , listening to my co-workers call in .He would put them on speaker phone so I could hear the conversation . And I got to listen to the dead silence when after hearing their excuses about how bad it was and they couldn't get to work and Bill said ," Well Earles here and He rode his bike ." I just knew that when the caller on the other end of the line went silent , he was thinking what a as shole I was . I didn't give a sh it then what they thought , still don't .
I'm not here to impress no one . I didn't do it to try and show anyone up , I did it because thats the kind of man I am . I didn't get a job not to make money . To me my fellow co-workers were acting like they were in school , praying for a snow day .
Well three things good came out of that day . The owner found out what kind of man I am . I took an axe to work and Bill showed me the proper way to sharpen it , and I got paid for the whole day .
Coffee is still hot , I did get the filter ready for the next pot . Hope you like it strong ! Have a great day all .
Semper Fi Marines
Cpl Commie
:rambo: Kill A Commie For Mommy :rambo:
Be Good To Yourself And Respect Your Elders :cool:
Death And Destruction Professionally , USMC
Sparrowhawk
01-14-03, 06:54 AM
booze and broads! Sounds like a great topic to talk about!
Sempers
Cook
firstsgtmike
01-14-03, 07:10 AM
Earle wrote:
"I'm not here to impress no one . I didn't do it to try and show anyone up , I did it because thats the kind of man I am."
My comment:
Sometime when you stand up for princilples. it p isses people off, because it makes them look bad.
But when THEY need a man to stand up for them, you're the first one they come to.
That's life.
It's the price you pay for being a man.
But it's cheaper than being a worm.
Good morning all. I hate to say, but we are going to have a day here where the temperature is 10 degrees above normal. At least the snowbirds will get their visits worth. It would be nice to be cold for a while here. Sometimes the summer heat lasts so long.
Thanks for the strong coffee.....
thedrifter
01-14-03, 10:10 AM
Goodmorning All
The weather is cold....our high is 32....but the windchill factor will make it feel like 22.......
My bones don't like the sound of that.....LOL.....
Cook......You forgot to state to Bones you prefer Redheads.....LOL.....You are slipping Bro.......LOL......
Well I'm going to be going away with Ellie this weekend.....We don't spend much time together..Our kids are always wanting to come with us....LOL....Hell they are adults now, and since they want to live with us...We are going to do a little traveling to get some peace...LOL..We decided to do some gambling in Atlantic City this weekend.....We haven't been there for a few years.....and wanted to see what's new down there....
Maybe my Luck will change.....I sure can use it......
Well all have a good day........
Sempers,
Roger
wrbones
01-15-03, 02:06 AM
'Mornin' folks! How ya doin' this mornin'!. Coffee's on, ya better get some! Paper'll be around in a bit...maybe....don't remeber if they got paid or not! LOL!
I missed most of what was goin' on around here yesterday. Family emergency...again! Seems the Ol lady decided yesterday was a good day to have a heart attack. Naw, it didn't kill her. I ain't gonna get the insurance money that easy! She was orderin' nurses and Nurses Assistants around when I left her, so she ain't gonna kick off real soon. At least I get a break from her and she gets breakfast in bed! LOL. Five hours inna emergency room ain't much of a way to spend an evening! Saw a couple of pretty ladies walkin around. One or two even came up and visited with me! One even looked like she had money! I played poor worried hubby, though. They didn't feel like comfortin' me fer some reason.....Ah, well. Life is! :D Hey, Sparrowhawk! One o them ladies was a redhead! ;)
Felt kinda sorry fer a couple of the younger parents in there, though. Couple of little ones were pretty sick. Saw another kid, cute as a bug! That kid might tempt me to find the patience to raise another one or two....her Mommy was in there fer somethin'.
Saw a couple of folks that woulda dang near been up fer a Darwin award. Give them a little more time, I guess. Maybe they need the practice first. Two of those parties actually new each other! Is stupidity contagious? I hope not. They were sittin' awful close to me fer awhile......
Indians were kinda fun to watch. It ain't even Saturday night! Most of those folks are just folks. Like anyone else but they got a full time tan and look a bit different than you or me. ( You or me, bein' anybody that ain't an Indian). One family group was in there over one of their bunch gettin' hurt or something. They seemed to be havin' a good time. On older son was tellin' bad jokes and even a few food jokes! They was tryin not to let Mom have too much time to worry.
I was surprised at the number of flat out fat people I saw in there. Most weren't there for treatment, but waitin' on someone else to be fixed up or admitted. Now, I ain't talkin' a few pounds or a pot belly, I'm talkin a hundered pounds or more overweight! Some folks get that way from medical problems or the side effect of the meds they're takin' or just plain gettin' old and can't do much anymore, but most of those I saw were anywhere from several years younger than I am to teenagers! Maybe it's a way of thinkin about it I guess. My gut starts fittin' into a size forty waist and I'm feelin' bad about it. Time to go on some sort of diet or exercise or somethin'. I say that now and next year I'll be finding excuses fer bein' a hundred pounds overweight.....I do like to eat....Life is. LOL.
So I ain't got much fer wisdom or simple ways of tellin' complex stories today. Had a couple other things on my mind. That's Life...or as my Dad says, "What a life!" LOL.
Warm up yer coffee, folks! It's a good day! We'll get it all sorted out one of these days. One day we might even get it right!
New opportunites, folks! Go out and take advantage of them!
Thanks Bones for the coffee. Im glad your wife is better and it isn't too serious. Best of luck to you.
I hear what you are saying about the american public. My daughter is in middle school and there is definitly a problem like you were talking about. The kids are starting early being overweight. I guess no one is buying mirrors anymore.
Have a great day.....
thedrifter
01-15-03, 08:32 AM
Goodmorning
Someone turn on the damn heater....It's cold here...........
Bones Our Prayers are with you.and your wife..and don't hesitate to contact me.....
I'm glad to hear she is doing better.............
I 'm sure Cook will take note that you were looking out for his well fare.........LOL........
Well not much going on....just been talking to someone from Camp Lejeune.......Boy does that bring back memories.....
I haven't been there in years...and when I went for a visit there it sure change then.....I hate to see it now.....Last time I got lost.....LOL......
Well all have a good day........
Sempers,
Roger
I didn't anyone could get lost in Jacksonville. Camp Lejune is another story though.
Barndog
01-15-03, 08:52 AM
Just got off the phone with Warren (got his ass outta bed LOL)
He will have more info today, and I'll be keepin contact with him, in lieu of his absense here. He did mention something about finding a woman who could kick his a$$....... so. What is it about Marines and their spouses/girlfriends?? Guess if someone is interested in doing some research - theres a good topic.
My first time out of the blocks with a wife, was a mistake (sans the children - they weren't). That's why we make mistakes in judgement - so we can learn and grow from them.
Our Bro is hangin tough. (I would expect no less) I'll be doin all I can to update you all, if he cannot.
Semper FI
He needs a woman that can kick his **s? I found out guys didn't want women that were REAL independent..... Let me know on that research....
wrbones
01-15-03, 11:22 AM
We like it in a Peter Pan and Wendy sort of way Joyce. :D
They're still doin' tests. Waited fer an hour and a half to spend fifteen minutes with her. Life is.
Barrio_rat
01-15-03, 11:57 AM
Morning all...
Bones, prayers are with you and yours. Glad to hear things a on the upside. As for me, it's Monday. But a 4 day work week. I ain't workin' another Sunday for the next 7 months - got my bid and even got to choose a decent post - of what was left. Guess I can't complain too awful much here.
Y'all have a great day,
Semper Fi!
wrbones
01-16-03, 01:59 AM
. 'Mornin' folks! Coffee's on! Ya better grab a cup and get settled fer a bit! Paper'll be here shortly. Yeah the coffee's fresh! It' don't last long enough to get nasty around here!Them dang Staff NCO's. I think they make it so nasty that someone else has to start makin' it just outta self defense! LOL
Well, the ol’ lady ain't dead yet, so I guess I better put those insurance papers back in the file folder...don't really know too much 'cept they're keeping’ her fer a second night and they be waitin' on test results. I appreciate yer concern, but like I said awhile back, I'm kinda cold about such things anymore. At least to some people. I don't like to see people hurtin', but if they check out, it don't mean much to me any more. I figured it out awhile back in a thoughtful moment or two. To me when it's time to check out, it's time to check out. Ya do what ya can to avoid it and to keep someone else from checkin out any earlier than ya haveta, but when they do, their ain't too much ya can do about. I don't feel much anymore when someone does check out on me. Just get aggravated fer a bit, 'cause they always seem to pick the most unreasonable time to do it. That's selfish on my part, but I don't cry and holler much when they do, cause in some ways that's selfish as well. Feelin’ sorry fer yerself when they ain’t **** you can do doesn’t work fer me. I get mad fer a bit is all, and then I’m over it and doin’ what needs to be done. I think I’d rather sit and have a drink or two and tell stories about the folks who checked out on me. You know, the kinda stuff that tells what the feller was really like. I have a hard time expressin’ it to others, for we all deal with death and loss differently and in somewhat different fashions. I know the experts say we all go through the same steps, but we don’t nearly go through it in the same fashion. When someone checks out, well, they're gone, all the cryin' and screamin' in the world won't change it. Do the job, or the mission, if you will, comfort the friends and relatives as best ya can, get 'em buried, see if the family needs anything, even see if they need ya to do some chores for 'em while they're takin' care of other things. The practical stuff.
So while I appreciate yer concern fer me, it’s just another interruption. Another day in the neighborhood.
Hell, I was usin the experience to get a point across yesterday and all of a sudden folks are goin’ “Oh, my God!” LOL. I’m good to go, folks. Fer me, if nothin’ else, deal with it and fall apart later!. I just ain’t one fer fallin apart is all. Well, ‘cept fer getting’ older anyway…If anything, the normal stuff is what freaks me out! Give me an emergency any day! LOL. I can handle that! I ain’t that tough or hard, though. I changed a dirty diaper once that made me puke! LOL. Some of the stuff folks around here post get me to havin’ trouble seein’ the puter screen sometimes. A cute little girl hangin on her Daddy’s finger with one small hand and a smile just melts me. Hell, you folks know me. Do the job the best ya can. Pay attention. Life and death and all it hands ya, there ain’t much you can do sometimes but deal with it. It’s another day. Tomorrow’s comin’. Anything can be handled fer today. Even death. Taxes, though. That’s another matter. I ain’t saiud it right again. So I’ll just quit fer now.
If ya wanta help, When was the last time any of ya were on mess duty? Them dishes were tryin to pile up on me! LOL.
Warm up yer coffee folks! It’s a new day. A day to go forth and conquer…if nothing else a day to get it
done and get the hell home to your ol lady and family! LOL.
We got another chance to get it right. Another chance to maybe do it better this time. It’s a new opportunity. Take advantage of it.
Barrio_rat
01-16-03, 03:17 AM
Morning all...
Bones, good to hear things are alright with ya. I understand the "practical" side coming out in crisis situations - many see it as being cold or incompassionate. Well, it don't mean ya don't care - it's just yer way of dealing with what happens is life. Good that you know yerself and are able to carry on.
As to my day? Well - got some braggin to do. For the rest of this month I don't work any more than 4 days in a week (okay, I don't work much anyway, but I don't have to show up more'n 4 days in a row - how's that?) and every weekend but one is a 3 day weekend. The one other is a 4 day weekend. Hard to beat stuff like that. I won't work another Sunday - unless by choice - for the next 7 months. It's pretty damn good when things work out!
As to mess duty. Well bones (and here's a wake-up call for you old salts) they don't do that any more. They got people that are trained for it now and they don't use KP as punishment. Most yer lookin at is 1 month sittin at a desk makin sure the people who are gonna eat check in and that those that are required to pay do so. That's mess duty in todays Corps.
(Yeah Bones, let's see where this thread goes now) LOL
Y'all have a good one, Semper Fi!
greybeard
01-16-03, 05:19 AM
Time for a 2nd cup then on to work-they changed my schedule. Been working 7-7 for 2 yrs now, we're going to 0545 to 1745 for some unknown reason. Means I actually get to get back home while it's still daylight. Gonna be cold tommorrow mornin-temps are headed for the teens down here in W. Texas.
No more mess duty huh? Brave new world? Some people got no business back behind the serving line anyway, from what I remember. It doesn't matter what changes they make in 'today's Corps', as long as they still know how to fight I guess.
Bones-wish you & your's the best.
thedrifter
01-16-03, 08:48 AM
Goodmorning..........
Same old story It's still cold out......and a snow storm coming again....tonight........
I'm starting to think I should head south for the winter......LOL
I do understand what you are saying Bones......Everyone has their own way.....and I was just like you....but Ellie changed that.....and now I'm the complete opposite......
Glad to hear the better half is on the road of recovery........
Barrio_rat I heard that too.....I don't agree, but we can't change progress if that is what they call it..........
All have a good day..........
Sempers,
Roger
PS: What do they do for Mess Duty in the Field...........Take the civilians with them.........LMAO
wrbones
01-17-03, 01:50 AM
'Mornin' folks! Coffee's on! Grab a cup and make yerself to home! Got some snow yesterday, temps dropped to about 0 last night. Paper'll be here directly.
Ol Lady made it home. They changed some of her meds and added asprin to the bunch she takes already. She got out of the hospital and in the car and said, "Let's go to WalMart!" Well, ****. She ain't dyin' on me anytime soon i guess.... ;) Still waitin' on some test results. She might be makin' another trip back to the hospital. I figure it won't happen. They got to be tired of her already! LOL.
Speakin' of such things....I got to readin a few of my old posts while I was lookin' fer somethin' last night. If ya didn't know me better, you'd think I was some kind ass hole or somethin'! LOL. Well, sometimes I am. Hell, I told you folks that a long time ago. Ya gotta get to know yerself before ya can get to know someone else. Knowin' yer strengths and weaknesses and just what you are and are not capable of.
That doesn't mean that as I Marine that I thought there was folks better than I was at what I did, there mighta been a few, but they were Marines and if I didn't know them, I knew who had trained them. On the other hand, about all the good I'd a been as a grunt is to fill a foxhole and point an M-16 downrange. I didn't know how to call arty into town let alone on to a specific hill onna map. That sorta thing. I did a few things when I was in that you wouldn't thing of seein a Winger do. I know my limits. I was meek and mild in those situations. Even when I had the rank, as long as they showed me the respect due the rank, I kept in the background so to speak. Learned what I could.
On the other hand, put me in my environment in a hangar or flightline and not listen to me? OOPS. You mighta just ****ed up. I was na ******* when I knew I was right. When I was wrong, I learned to aplogise and move on. I was never wrong when it counted. I never unlearned that, I guess.
When I think I'm right and someone ain't listenin' I tend to 'regress'. I'm a Marine. I can't help it. LOL.
I'm quite a bit different than I was when I was active duty. I might 'grow' outta this Marine thing, say, in ...oh, a million years or so.....
I'll be sure to let ya know if it ever happens.
Warm up yer coffee, folks! It's a new day! A new opportunity. Might even get it right this time. Could even do it better!
Plan out yer day and watch yer six.
Barndog
01-17-03, 03:55 AM
Mornin. Ya buncha sorry sons-of oh....... Sure am Glad the wife made it home Bones. Now I know yer ass aint going to get in no trouble. I'm kinda broke rite at the moment, but I'd make do to come give ya a hand, if you went to the hoosgow or somethin for squarin away a civilian or something. LOL Did the staff get tired of her of YOU? When my Son was sick, I was like that nasty pair of skivvies that wouldn't go away. I made it my point to be like that. And, ya know....... even these days I occasionally run into some of those Nurses - and they STILL remember who I am. Keep in mind Alex passed away in Dec 1987. Remember the phrase about never getting a second chance to make a first impression?
I ran into my cousin Greg yesterday. He is a SFC in the Army Reserve. (GySgt - is the applicable USMC rank in case ya dint know). Made it to the first Desert Sandbox. Expecting orders anytime. Combat Medical Unit. He's chompin at the bit ready to go. I'd go in a heartbeat if it wasn't an Army unit. He came to see me 'cause he is sick of working for Corrections. He knew I got sick of it, and walked. Of course, his family (mine too) tellin him the same thing mine would have- 'stay.... the benefits, yada yada'. I told him straight out - "Brother, you got 1 person to look up to in this life, and ya look at him every morning when ya shave his face. YOU. At the end of everything, when there aint nothin left, what are you going to have, and who are you going to have? YOUR BROTHERS - cause, lookit where we are...."
Ya know... Greg and I. unfortunate as it is - come from a pretty fu cked up set of families. But, thats for us to deal with. Besides my Father, and a couple of Uncles, and outside of my Step-Brother Al (Navy) Greg and myself are the ONLY ones of OUR Generation or suceeding, to have served our Nation's military. That's pretty dammed selfish, and the rest of them..... well, they're quite fu cking concieted about it as a result. I don't hold anything against my Uncles for not instilling more dignity in my other cousins. Maybe they seen things they did not want their children to see, I don't know. Uncle Wally passed away a couple years ago. Nobody bothered to call and tell me he did, except my Marine Bro from the UP - his Mom still lives in that area - she heard it at church, and called HIM, and he called me. The family called 1/2 hour before his funeral. Wasn't that nice and prompt. And, thats just the beginning. (I could tell ya stuff that would make ya want to puke, but it is morning coffee after all...)
Yeah, a beautiful day. My name isn't in the obituary column, so thats a damm good start. I started jammin myself with needles yesterday. No, I didn't start heroin. New Rheumatoid medication I take daily for 4 months. LOL - thats kinda funny, because they got this nifty little device thats the modern version of an Atropine injector.......(I was the NBC NCO for my squadron @Cherry Point) - then only thing was, when I was telling the Nurse what the military version was like, she damm near passed out!!!!!
And THAT was funny!
Semper FI
JAMarine
01-17-03, 04:05 AM
Thanks for the "joe" Warren. Thanks too for the heads up on "Getting It Right". Didn't know something was wrong with the "Boss" but I'm glad she's home for your sake.
Good to see ya around. Miss yakkin with you. We gotta catch up sometime.
Have a Good Day Marine.
rich
Art Petersn
01-17-03, 06:21 AM
Glad she made it home Bones.
Can't live with them and can't live without them.
Barndog hope the new medication works.
Shaffer
01-17-03, 06:40 AM
Morning Marines. Nice to see you up at O'dark thirty. Bones, glad to hear the CO is home. I think there would be more stress on her if she had to stay away and wonder what trouble you are getting into at home :D
Have a good one Marines.
Semper Fi,
Jerry
Sparrowhawk
01-17-03, 07:02 AM
Been busy around here, like a war zone.
Bones glad your wife is home, and here I was gona come visit with you so as we could have taken turns pinching the redhaired nurses butt.
http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/animatedfilms/poohsgrandadventure/Pooh.jpg
Can't believe someone woke up Jerry, and he's here this early. Bet he still has on his winney the pooh, PJ's on.
Speaking of Flannel PJ's who's idea was it to invent them for women? Them guys ain't right I tells you.
BONES...... I didn't know how to call arty into town let alone on to a specific hill onna map...
Didn't they have those cheat sheets for you? All you did was call in some girls name or a sports or something like that that was a code for Arty and they shot a round over the bridge or out in front of the perimeter.
No need to know more than that..... Humm, how how those guys know that?
Glad they fix up your wife okay, mine is due in for a check up Monday they are operating on her shoulder, should have let me know Bones maybe we could have gotten a discount.
Wives are falling apart I tell you.
Coffee's good... its going to be a bit warm here in sunny California 82°F
Sempers
Cook
thedrifter
01-17-03, 07:25 AM
Goodmorning
the weather hasn't changed much here.....Still cold.....and snow on the ground again......Start snowing last night so it wasn't a surprise to wake up to......
Cook.....
One of the things we learned....Change your habits that the enemy never figures out our schedule........LOL.
Barndog I agree....Bones won't get in trouble now....but you did your job well...making sure to keep him in line.........
Well have to go shovel the damn snow now.....I usually have my kids do it...but they all had work already.....I'm going to have to make a schedule for them, to make sure one of them is home.....that I don't have to do this again........
All have a good day.......and to those I don't see...Have a great weekend.........
Sempers,
Roger
NamNuts
01-17-03, 08:41 AM
We have our 1St squad of CorpsGrunts on the ground in DC...TO help counter the Anti-War protest, tomorrow Saturday the 18th!
ATTENTION ON DECK !!!!!!!
JOEL AKA "POINTMAN HERC" CAN BE LISTENED TO LIVE TODAY AT 12:20PM ON THE BELOW URLS !!!
http://www.usaradio.com and
http://www.judicialwatch.org
ALSO .........
TOMMOROW MORNING AT APPROXIMATELY 8:00 AM HE IS GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED "LIVE" ON NBC AND MSNBC. IF THERE IS A NEWS ALERT BREAK IN THE SHOW IT WILL BE SHOWN ON TAPE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.......THAT IS ALL.....WE HAVE A FOOT OF SNOW AND ITS STILL COMING DOWN AND EVERYTHING IS FREEZING BUT WE FIXIN TO LEAVE FER DC !!!
__________________
SEMPER FIDELIS,
Dane "Azzholio" Brown
USMC, Nam 68
1/27
Joe Gore
01-17-03, 10:03 AM
Good morning from Michigan. Warbones sorry to hear bout your wife gettn sick. Hope she recovers quick. Keep us posted. Here in S/E Michigan we are in a little bit of a cold spell. With the windchill it's staying near the single didgits. At least i got a good woman to keep me warm at night. That might be the reason why we have 5 kids. LOL. Hope everyone out there has a great day. But i guess any day we wake up still breathing is a great one. Well got to run don't have a lot of time today kids only have 1/2 day of school and i got a honey do list from hell to get done. Take care all.
SEMPER FI
Shaffer
01-17-03, 12:39 PM
Hey Cook, You been spying in my bedroom? I only breakout the Winnie The Poh PJ's on special occasions :-) Usually don't wear anything at all :D OOps...was that to much info?
SF,
Jerry
wrbones
01-18-03, 02:40 AM
'Mornin' folks! Good to see ya! Coffee's on, come on in and get some! Paper'll be here after a bit. Whoever gets the last cup makes the next pot...oh, ****. I shouldn't a said that. Too many Staff NCO's around here......I wonder why they fergot how to make coffee just because they got that rocker anyway? Pprobably another mystery I'll never understand! LOL.
What are we visitin' about today anyway? Fools and their money? No, that's a Marine on liberty! We know all about that one! LOL. Oh. Freedom! We know all about that one as well, I think. Freedom to do what ya want as long as ya ain't doin' things that fold, spindle or multilate someone else's freedom? Responsibility goes along with that somehow don't it? How does responsibility fit in with freedom anyway? I figger I know, I'm just not real sure I can put it into words. Common courtesy? Manners of some sort or kind? Things like keep yer elbows off the table when yer eatin' and such like? Don't insult folks? Well, don't insult strangers anyway! LOL. They might have a bigger weapon than you do! Better to know how much juice they're carryin' first. LOL.
Common courtesy? Yes, sir and no, ma'am types of things? Takin' care of each other? Takin' care of yer neighbors if they need it?
Freedom.
Freedom to succeed or to fail? Freedom to try in any case. Votin' fer the folks you think won't screw ya in public office as bad as the last politician did? LOL. Freedom to come and go anywhere ya want in this nation? Be aware, some things are different state to state and I ain't just talkin about the weather! LOL.
Freedom.
Freedom to be at peace in yer own home without folks hasslin' ya over nothin'? Freedom to protect yer own, no matter what it takes?
Freedom to think what ya want, however silly and ignorant it is?
Freedom to allow the other guy his freedoms as well......like the freedom to be a damn fool on liberty?
Freedom to make and drink a bad cup of coffee as Staff NCO's are prone to do maybe.... ;)
Warm up yer coffee, folks. It's Saturday! Relax and enjoy it. We'll get it right one o these days. It's a new opportunity to get it right!
Art Petersn
01-18-03, 05:30 AM
Thanks for the coffee Bones. Just letting you know I'm keeping track of you. Have a good day.
Barndog
01-18-03, 06:18 AM
Mornin. Freedom to get just as pi $$ ed as I damm well want to.
Man, I downloaded the Enduring Freedom video last night.
Sat here with my kid and watched it. GOD!! The wife came home - then I made her sit and watch it.
One thing and one thing only Marines - if your soul is missing the motivation we enjoyed as Brothers - watch it.
I wanted to pack my trash and run to San Diego to hit the ship personally.
Semper Fidelis
Barndog
01-18-03, 07:25 AM
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3559
Gunny G's link to the Enduring Freedom Video
OOHHHHH RAHHHH
thedrifter
01-18-03, 09:21 AM
Here it is another very cold saturday morning........Glad Bones has the coffee on.......Sure need it this morn to wake up.......I got first dibs on the sport section when the paper arrives.............LOL........ My Eagles are still in the Play-Offs........
This Staff can still make a half decent pot of coffee, but why should I when I still have my Sgts' around for that......LMAO
Maybe should start having the Cpls' made our morn' coffee, I do believe that we have some good ones around here........LOL
FREEDOM, Bones said it all, he does express in words what we all feel. Nobody understands it more than the Marines who put their lives on the line to defend it...........
Sempers,
Roger
Barrio_rat
01-18-03, 10:54 AM
Morning all...
Hey Drifter, be careful what you ask for. When I was a Cpl I made coffee... ONCE. Hehehehe... I don't drink the stuff so I really don't care what it tastes like... it all tastes the same to me!
Well, had a SNAFU at work. They say that when we request time off they go by 1st come 1st serve. I requested Super Bowl Sunday off back on Oct 3, 2002. My request was denied. I found out yesterday that someone else had theirs approved and had requested it sometime in Dec. Turns out, I got someone to trade they day with me. They need a day badly and so do I. It all works out in the end. Still, don't like playin' by the rules and gettin' fvcked for it. Just puts a real bad taste in my mouth. Of course, our POS union wouldn't do anything about it. What do you expect from a union that supports molestors of children and gives money to the Al Gore camp. And they wonder why I won't become a member.
Anyway, I got tomorrow off and, as it would seem, I have next Sat and Sun off as well. 'Spose it all works out in the end.
Y'all have a great day - Semper Fi!
Barndog
01-18-03, 11:29 AM
Hey Rat.....
FYI - yer Union, just like the Corrections Union I was involved with, is STILL AFFILIATED with the STATE yer working for. Regardless of any dilusion of fact or not, if yer privatized or not.
I was a Union Rep for damm near 3 of the 5 years I worked there, so I kinda think I'm a little up to speed on this issue.
Ya see...... we didn't have the choice to join the Union. Kinda like the 'CFC' in the Corps every year. I told them to pack it also. And believe me I paid for it - every 6 months at promotion time.
To blame it on a Former Vice President is not only wrong, and, barring my stepping outside of my paygrade, unprofessional conduct on your part.
Brother, no disrespect intended, but look at your motivation a little harder and a little more critically. Kinda like sayin, if ya dispised a parent, or someone close to you so badly, that ya would continue bash and belittle them, long after they went cold in the ground. So, what and where does that leave you in relation to them? No better than them.
If I step out of line, people aint afraid to hop into my arse. That's the beauty of the Brotherhood. It's nothing short of a miracle I can even walk anymore - given the arse I've had taken off in my life.
But I'm still here fightin'. Ain't I? And I really ain't afraid to stick my Marine arse out there for someone to take a poke at either.
AM I?
Semper Fidelis
Sparrowhawk
01-18-03, 11:33 AM
William Wallace's (Mel Gibson) last words in the movie
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Barrio_rat
01-18-03, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Barndog
Hey Rat.....
To blame it on a Former Vice President is not only wrong, and, barring my stepping outside of my paygrade, unprofessional conduct on your part.
To make things clear, Barndog, I do not blame the former vice president for anything the union does. I was using, as a point, that the union which says it represents me, gave money to the Al Gore Camp while he was running for president. This, using my money to support/help Al Gore, does not represent me in any way, form or fassion. I have followed the money trail of this union and it is not pretty. I do not blame those outside this union for anything the union chooses to do. In this state, we have what is called Fair Share. This mean, while I do not have to be a member of the union, I still have to pay dues to the union and, in turn, the union MUST represent me in the same manner that they would a member. Basically the difference between a member and a non-member is voting rights and a voice within the union. My choice, I abstain from being a member of an organization that, nation wide, has 3% membership consisting of correctional officers. They do not care about us, they show it at every turn. Out of the $37 bucks each month they take from my paycheck, only $4 stays local. And yes, they are in bed with the state. They do not represent nor do the advocate MY interests. If they did, my time would count. I've been with the dept over 7 years, yet only 2 years count. Same dept different union. The other union recognizes all time within the dept no matter the union. This union does not. It is selfish and does not care about the employees. I'm only using the facts that I know. I do know that unions have done good for workers in the past. This one, however, does not care about the employees of this state, especially the correctional officers and employees.
By the way, no offense taken.
Semper Fi!
Barndog
01-18-03, 02:19 PM
At the same time..... when people I worked for didn't look out for my interests - I found other employment, State, Federal or otherwise..... been thru 'em all. The One most important thing I learned, is the day I stood up to my Senior Drill Instructor. After I recovered, I had seen that questioning his Honor and Integrity would kill Marines.
That was the day I became a man of Honor and Integrity. That was the day I knew no matter what - from that point forward, I earned that lesson from him. He taught me well.
15 years in the military and E-4. Like I care 2 fu cking sh its about what some people would say about my record. Theres a pair of 42/34's rite here and lots of room. Begin.
I'm fu ckin proud of what I did and how damm well I did it. And I took Zero sh it the entire time. 20 years later and I am privledged to say that I was personally asked to reconsider coming back into the National Guards because of what I know. Not because of my stellar fu cking rank. And it sure as hell aint because yer seeing my beautiful body on billboards across the country in Dress Blues. It was because of my performance and how well I trained others. Attention to detail. Under pressure - the go-to guy. When everyone else is going home, I was still there. If it had a 0800 test flight, when it rolled out of that hangar at 0730, it was ready then. Not a bunch of scramblin. Before the wheels went on.
But hey..... thank god for affirmative action eh LMFAO!!!!!! Thank god for the Gramm/Rudman budget reduction act of 1986 or I'd still be working there today. But, I wasn't some Colonel's Kid...
And, that's the reality of that. Federal Civil Service my ass.
Union, I might add, my ass. Smoke that, Brother. That's a bitter ass toke for ya... Servin yer country is a prerequsite to being a Fed Civil Service Technician in the National Guards. Being a Union Member is too. Representation. Where? And, had the priveldge of PAYING for NO representation. 0 zip notta, do-do jack squat, zilch.
One thing you can be certain of - in this country, those with all the money and all the power, have one thing in common.
Greed. No matter who or what they stomp on while they get it. All of it.
Never had it. Never will. Bro - don't get me wrong - I refuse to take sh it from anyone. If they were taking my money, I'd be suing their asses. Law or no law. Or else I'd be finding employment elsewhere. Or movin elsewhere.
Yer decision Bro. I know what I'd been DONE already.
Bitter? Na...... my boot camp Bro's run that hangar now.........
wasn't the Bro's there that fu cked me over.
Semper FI
Barrio_rat
01-18-03, 02:38 PM
I hear ya, Barndog... seems we do agree on some things. Ain't that special. LOL
As far as this union goes... Well, I believe that I can make a difference. I enjoy the job, not the location ... though, I prefer to live here than where I used to live. Ya can't have everything. The job, due to some recent developments in upper management relocationing, is going to get better. The place, should get better. The union, I'm for changing it out to the other one. The penitentiary got tired of being screwed over by the union and formed their own. This is a union of Oregon Correctional Employees.. Of for and by... much like this site is for Marines. Though, it's still a union. ;) My goal is to either 1, change over to the union that supports us and knows what our needs are - and strives for them or 2, to create our own union, much in the same manner as the other one did. It will be a long haul. Like I said, I enjoy the job - not many people can say that. It pays well and, as you've pointed out, has pretty good bennies. I just have a problem with a union that won't fight for ya when ya need it to. I don't care so much about the political BS, though it can be a factor in whether I join it or not.
Good convo, Barndog... and thanks for lettin me vent (and keepin me in check) ... well, it's time for me to get ready for work. Y'all have a great one!
And drifter, seein' how the cowboys ain't quite makin' it to the Super Bowl this year (give 'em a couple years with that new coach they got!), looks like I'll be rooting for your Eagles.
Semper Fi!
wrbones
01-19-03, 04:43 AM
'Mornin' folks! Coffee's on! Grab yer cup and set a spell! Paper'll be here directly.
They keep shuttin' the site down fer some reason every Saturday fer about two hours or so, usually just a bit after midnight Mountain time. I never have had a response when I ask why.
Anyway, while I was waitin', I went over to another site where they're havin' a discussion on liberals and republicans and the war with Iraq and all, and I decided those boys needed some direction. They were goin' off all over the place, liberal that democrat this, blah, blah, blah. I posted the definitions of a few of those terms just so they'd be sure to know what they were talkin' about. LOL.
War or no war, it seems many of those those opposed to it don't seem to really have reasons for opposin' it, just catch phrases. Well, usin' catch phrases isn't thinkin' in my book. I'm kinda for the intervention myself, not that I'm for war so to speak, but sometimes...Well, I don't really want to go for pro or con about it here, but I wanted to look at folks' thinkin' again.
We have to think for ourselves. Gather information, both for and against any position we take on any issue. Sometimes we don't know as much as we would like. Personally, I go lookin' fer answers. I educate myself so to speak. I don't just look at what I think might be right. I try to look at all of the information with some form of objectivity, knowing that we all have our prejudices and ingrown methods of thinkin'. We are influenced by our environments. As well, there's is that one theory, you influence what you observe just by observing it. With that in mind, I go lookin'.
Too many people are just hollerin' whatever comes to mind without knowledge, then when they run out of things to say that mean anything, they start usin' insults and such. Not very good camoflage to me.
We gotta know why we think the way we do. We need to know just what we believe and why. We need to know how others define whatever causes we espouse so that we know where we stand. Ya gota know the terrain. In this life, concerning such issues, there is little in the way of a map and compass, we must become the cartographers of our own reason. Know where you are and how you got there. Whatever you believe, this religion or that, philanthropy or self-interest, bread and circuses or rampant capitalism, know why you believe the way you do. Because it was good enough for Mom and Dad isn't a reason. Because a celebrity or politician said so isn't a reason.
Figure things out for yourselves.
Warm up your coffee, folks! That's enough to consider on a Sunday ain't it! LOL.
We'll get it sorted out one of these days, maybe. Might even get it right sooner or later! LOL. It's a new day. Relax and enjoy it.
Barndog
01-19-03, 04:59 AM
Wow.......
I said that a while back. And been continuing to say it.
Sound byte mentality.
What really sucks is when Marines give up their Honor and Integrity to participate in it.
Then I say:
I do solemly swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help me God.
Don't say nothing about:
-money
-government
-politicians
-people
-ignorance
-stupidity
It clearly states: CONSTITUTION.
And, I'd go today, this moment, so they can b!tch and whine about it.
But at the same time....... they'd better be ready to............... HEAR ME B!TCH AND WHINE MARINE STYLE BABY!!!!!!!!!!! CAUSE I'M COMIN!! LOUD, PROUD, AND BIG AS HELL!!
Facts are facts, and BS is BS. I know the difference. TAKE YER CHANCES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOHHHHHHHHH RAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
To the Corps,
Semper Fidelis
thedrifter
01-19-03, 05:00 AM
Coffee sure smells good, could use a big cup right about now.......just got in......had to go out about 0200 EST on a trouble call........
Most of those protesters don't give a damn about anybody but themselves.........Still think most of them have been given everything on a Silver Platter and they could careless about anything else............Ran into them in the 60's and now again in 2003.........Never had any use for them than and still feel the same way now.........LOL
Guess I'll warm up by the fire and enjoyy that second cup.......Hope everybody has a good day........
Sempers,
Roger
Barndog
01-19-03, 05:01 AM
Relax hell.
I did that for 20 years while I was building houses, ruining my back, knees, and everything else.
LOLOLOLOLOL
OOHH RAAHH Bones
Earle Comstock
01-19-03, 05:35 AM
I just say , fvck the protesters . Yea it makes me mad , and I'd like them sissy assed bas tards delt with in a way that is satisfactory to the Corp . First , reinstate the draft , then we will know who we are dealing with for sure .
Then we get all those inmates from all the state pen's . You know the ones , the reamers , the as*hole stretchers , the ones who put the Bub in Bubba .
Then we put these so called piece asstofist in a locked room with Bubba . Then when they start crying and whineing because their as*holes hurt , and they want us to kill Bubba . We can say , Oh we can't do that , we're trying to stop the violence , and It looks like Bubba's happy .
But seriously , I don't know what to do about those pus*y as*ed bas tards . I'm as mad as the next guy .
Granted , I went in the Corp during peace time , but I fulfilled my duty as a Man . I graduated highschool on a saturday , and I was on my way to Parris Island on a monday , but I served my country .
I was good at what I was taught , and I'm a better man for it .
And you are all right when you stated , that because of us and men like us , those fvcking pukes have freedom .They just don't know the meaning of it . The honor isn't part of their vocabulary .
I'd like to pound it into them , but I'd get arrested for murder .
Just let me say 1 more time , FVCK -EM !
Now let me wake up a few Poolee's , today is as good as any to enlist .
Coffee is great , I'm already doing 100mph , made a fresh pot .
Morning all .
Earle Comstock
01-19-03, 05:41 AM
Ok , I almost forgot why I came into this post in the first place .
I got a question , how come , every saturday night this site goes down . I was right in the middle of something good and down she goes , just like a hooker on a hard dick . Splain it to me Lucy .
Barndog
01-19-03, 05:41 AM
OOHHHHHH RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I got me a nice new fresh perfect credit report and no income and a credit card with no balance.
Don't make me say fvck it, Earle. I'm warnin ya........ don't make me do it. I'm sick and tired of makin rich bastids richer. Maybe its MY TURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ya cant call me if Ya cant find me and I aint got no phone can ya?????
LMFAO
Howz that for ballz across the nose??????????? I owe you WHAT???????? LOLOLOLOL
I'm warnin ya Earle.... it's too fVckin tempting...........
Barndog
01-19-03, 05:45 AM
And I know more people in Seattle than you, too, Brother..... and points North...
Semper FI
Earle Comstock
01-19-03, 06:00 AM
Yea , and the sad part is that there are more and more everyday (protesters) . I REALLY THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AS A WHOLE ARE SCARED , WHAT THAT SICK SON-OF-A-*ITCH IS GONNA DO THIS TIME . So we need to kill that basta*d right off the bat .
The only problem with that is he got 6 motherfvckers that look just like him . You know what they say , they all look alike , It's true . I do however , think this is going to be a different kind of war . I'm getting this sick feeling inside , that I wouldn't have if the rest of the world and those tree huggers would let us do our job .
Like I said before , I'f you don't want to look , go stand in the corner with the women and children . BUT don't ask us to do a job , then stand over US and dictate how we do it .
Just like Buckwheat said to Darla , How my dick tate .
I just know that now , I'm mad all the time . From the Protesters , to finding out what we knew anyways , that Hussein is a lying coc*sucker , to the news in general . Christ , the news by itself is depressing .
I dread getting out of bed anymore , I'm just waiting for the big flush .
NamNuts
01-19-03, 07:20 AM
MORNIN MARINES.....
Damn the coffee pot not even half full this AM...it's just EMPTY!!!
Well, gotta have something warm...okay, i see a can of chicken broth...ahhhh WTF OVER...that'll work...!
Spent a few hours, well more than a few, yesterday watching the the ignorant! Their talking points must have been run on 3x5 cards! These turds including a number of grandfathers made my stomach turn...and yurn to be within cane range...!
There's always gonna be protestors...just wish they'd get the FVCK'NG facts STRAIGHT, they might change there opinoin,...old greek guy once wrote...: If your precieved to be a fool, never open your mouth and take all doubt away!
Our bro Joel was there supporting the troops and action...that will come...!
Proud of ya ma bro...Joel "Pointman" kernodle
Barndog
01-19-03, 07:26 AM
My only regret James.......... outside of NOT being there personally:
Is the caption - instead of saying 'supports Bush Admin'. it should say......
'Supports Marine Brothers and Constitution, not politicians'
That sure as hell aint his fault!!!!!!!!!!!!
Semper Fidelis
Greetings, Marines! I just registered on leatherneck.com, and I've been enjoying reading the posts for the day. I retired from the Corps (twice, sort of); the second time last March. Now, I'm billeted in a farm house in the middle of Iowa farm country. Thought I'd miss being able to talk to Marines, but there's more of them around here than I would've guessed. Thanks to email, I'm still in contact with a number of retired buddies and some that are still wearing cammies. Since it's 1930 (EST), here, it's too late for me to coffee drinkin', but hope you all enjoy tomorrow's cup as much as todays.
wrbones
01-19-03, 08:53 PM
Welcome aboard Master Gunnery Sergeant!
Grab a beer and cop a squat! We're glad to see ya!
Welcome home, Marine!