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Kelvin Quinonez
04-09-04, 11:51 AM
I Enlisted and my MOS is Marine Security Forces. I'm not very sure of what is I will be doing can I get more info frome someone. My recruiter doesn't know very much about it either. Can you help me?

hump_drop
04-09-04, 12:38 PM
I spent two years at MCSF Co. Naples.

It really depends on where you go. Stateside MCSF companies may not have as many ceremonies, parades, etc as we did.

Guard duty for whatever installation needs to be guarded, physical security of buildings and different things inside it.

All in all, it's a great duty, make sure you enjoy shining boots, pressing uniforms, and just looking good. I loved my tour in the Security Force battallion, you will too if you have a good attitude. Expect some messed up hours, guard duty is all about the 0200-0800 watch.

Have fun and good luck at the Depot.

tferg78
04-09-04, 01:34 PM
I'm currently in the MCSF Battalion, it all depends on what command you get in the Security Force battalion, the only places that stand actual posts are MCSF Bangor, MCSF Kings Bay and Marine Barracks DC. FAST, Bahrain and MCSF Europe all are reactionary units. I'm with MCSF Europe in Spain and having a blast, seen 13 different countries in 12 months, saw action in Liberia. I've also made some bank doing different things. Yes you do have to look good, but every Marine has to do the same. You get some kick ass training & lots of it. Anyone in my company can go to the civilian SWAT team no problem. And once your tour is done here you go to an Infantry unit, so you'll get the best of both worlds.... If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask...

Semper Fidelis....:marine:

hump_drop
04-09-04, 03:49 PM
I forgot that they have consolidated the Europe companies.

tferg78: I spent six weeks in Rota guarding an MPS ship in late 97-early 98. We had a blast in Rota.

Kelvin Quinonez
04-10-04, 12:48 AM
Awsome, Thanks guys. I really like to travel. Do all of the batallions travel alot? or just the out of country batallions. I would really like to go to a base in Europe. Do they teach you how to use different weapons? Thanks for the info guys, im leaving June 14. MCRD San Diego. Any advice for boot camp?
Thanks again
Semper Fi

HardJedi
04-13-04, 06:13 PM
well, if you get stuck at Kings Bay you ain't going ANYWHERE! that place is located near a town of about 12000 people, called St. Mary's GA.and there is NOTHING to do there. Jax Fl is about 15 min away, and Daytona beach about an hour.

and yes you learn alot of different weapons. at least we did.

Kelvin Quinonez
04-13-04, 08:19 PM
Ok, I hope I don't go to Kings Bay. What's in King's Bay anyway?

HardJedi
04-14-04, 12:19 PM
it's CLASSIFIED, , can't tell you. but it is a sub base and you spend a week at a time locked up then a week training. week in lock up, week training. at least that 's the way it used to be.

Kelvin Quinonez
04-14-04, 05:24 PM
ok.so it's not that great then

HardJedi
04-14-04, 05:30 PM
at kings bay? no way no how. it CAN lead to good civy jobs though, if you maintain your clearance.. got me a job the month after I got out of the Marines Paying 60G a year doing security work overseas for a private company

Kelvin Quinonez
04-14-04, 05:47 PM
Does the private company come to you and ask you to work for them? or do you go? 60G,that's awsome

HardJedi
04-14-04, 08:50 PM
i found them.

Kelvin Quinonez
04-14-04, 10:18 PM
cool,im learning a lot of stuff

CPLRapoza
04-14-04, 10:19 PM
Do any of you know if it is possible I can go Security Forces after getting off the MSG Program, even though their are both B-Billets

usmc03wannabe
04-14-04, 10:47 PM
I am not a Marine, but I asked this exact same question about reenlisting with another b-billet....the example I used was being in Security Forces and then reenlisting and getting into the MSG Program. I was told that its not likely to happen. Here I'll post the link.

http://forums.military.com/1/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=78919038&f=9071945704&m=59710418

cmoline
12-26-06, 01:03 PM
What do you do? Everything they tell you to!
Actually, I was at Bangor, too. It's classified for sure, but it's an honor to have been chosen. I did NOT enlist to get it, but was chosen through the PRP program (which probably doesn't exist anymore?).
I loved my CO Lt. Col. Egan and our company gunny was friggin' awesome.

Any chance to wear that uniform and bear the title of United States Marine is worthy of your best. Semper Fi!

PS - learn early who is not cut out to be the best and either help them or get the heck away from them.

Barrette
12-27-06, 12:31 AM
What does PRP standfor and repersent because my MOS UW-Security Forces PRP??? Yes PRP still does exsist...

grayshade
12-27-06, 12:48 AM
I was stationed at Naval Submarine Base, Kingsbay. If anyone would like know a little that I'm able to speak of, ask away.

USMCgrunt0331
12-27-06, 06:22 PM
PRP is personal reliability program, ie. Bangor, Kings Bay or Pax River.

Rota is awesome, just got back from a 6 month deployment there in Sept., went w/ my 1st FAST platoon, got to go to Germany, Portugal, Cyprus and Lebanon. FAST is sweet, great training and good deployments for the most part. I still miss the spanish women...man, most looked like models, just had to get out of Rota and go to Puerto or Seville. But anyways, like I told another guy on here, just search the forums for security forces, FAST, and prp, there's already tons of post and threads regarding this subject, and if you still have a question you want answered after than shoot me a pm, or ask it on here.

sabbs88
01-01-07, 06:41 PM
Is it true that MCSF is a 5 year contract instead of 4? I heard you have to serve 2 15-month tours. Correct me if I'm wrong.

HardJedi
01-07-07, 10:06 AM
I was in security forces in two seperate places. Kingsbay Sub Base, and Guam. I was on a 4 year enlistment at the time. Not sure how it is NOW, but back then SF was an 18 month assignment. The reason I ended up in two different places was becuase the NavMag on Guam was being shut down ( I was actually the last person relieved of of a post when the base closed) so I got sent to another SF unit.

Sounds to me like the two 15 month tours you are talking about is MSG duty. a WHOLE different thing.

kevinkrej
10-17-07, 11:44 AM
my contract is for security forces. i just graduated from parris island, after soi, were am i going for security forces school?? i heard norfolk. is that correct

DIBLO7
10-25-07, 10:50 AM
Is it true that MCSF is a 5 year contract instead of 4? I heard you have to serve 2 15-month tours. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you are going to MCSF as a B-billet on your first contract, Yes, it is for 5 years now. I believe that changed sometime last year. The idea is so that you can spend a 2 year tour with MCSFCO, then PCS and still have time to do the 03 thing with your new unit. They were running into problems because Marines would check in and at the end of their tour with MCSFCO they didn't have enough time left on their contract for the monitor to PCS them to a grunt unit before their EAS.

Anyways I'm currently stationed at Bangor, so if you have any more questions feel free to ask. Rah.

Achped
11-01-07, 11:20 PM
Cheasapeake...


my contract is for security forces. i just graduated from parris island, after soi, were am i going for security forces school?? i heard norfolk. is that correct

dmaclurg
02-22-08, 01:44 PM
I go to recruit training in June. I'm signed up for MCSF PSP, Does anybody know what PSP stands for?

thewookie
02-22-08, 02:37 PM
It's PRP not PSP, and that stands for the Personal Reliability Program. It means that once fully school trained that your going to be around nukes and have the need to get a TS clearance.

dmaclurg
02-23-08, 05:55 PM
I'm not sure. My number is 0311-81502, isn't PSP Presidential Security Program?

thewookie
02-24-08, 12:13 AM
Well, you tell me. Yesturday you was the one asking questions, today you sound like you know? The 8152 MOS is a Marine Security Force billet designator. As part of the MOS you can be selected for PRP duty. What you have and what you are going to do is another thing. Graduate boot camp and then you'll find out along the way.

dmaclurg
02-24-08, 02:54 AM
sounds good sir

Raptorman22
01-29-09, 05:18 PM
I have a question concerning B billet Marines, I am a Corporal in the 1100 field and i elected security forces as part of a reenlistment. Am I qualified to do a FAST or am I going to go PRP? Also what are some of the things that i can expect from the school, like am i going to be able to have a POV? I would like to deploy with security what are my chances for that?

thewookie
01-29-09, 08:20 PM
I have a question concerning B billet Marines, I am a Corporal in the 1100 field and i elected security forces as part of a reenlistment. Am I qualified to do a FAST or am I going to go PRP? Also what are some of the things that i can expect from the school, like am i going to be able to have a POV? I would like to deploy with security what are my chances for that?

Am I qualified to do a FAST or am I going to go PRP? You have to be an 03 to go to FAST on an operational level. PRP commands will take NCO's as non 03's and then you just have to learn the ropes.


Also what are some of the things that i can expect from the school, like am i going to be able to have a POV? The school isn't that tough, especially for an NCO. It's challenging and guys do fail, but as long as you go there focused to finish the school then you should have no issues. From what I remember, no POV's are allowed in any schoolhouse environment, and no you can't have one at the basic security forces school.

I would like to deploy with security what are my chances for that. Not very likely as a "regular" security force Marine. FAST Company has different missions and they deploy for the mission, but the rest of the Marines from Marine Security Force Battalion are there to protect hard assets.

Raptorman22
02-01-09, 01:32 PM
where isthe school for security forces i am from virginia before i joined the Corps but i dont know where to go to check in

thewookie
02-01-09, 02:07 PM
where isthe school for security forces i am from virginia before i joined the Corps but i dont know where to go to check in


It's in Chesapeake, down near the NC border. In the woods off Battlefield Boulevard (rt 168) take a right off Battlefield on Ballahack and just go straight until the base appears. NSA Northwest Annex is the Navy base name.

It's not odd that you can't find it or don't know of the base. When I first arrived at Norfolk airport to attend the basic school I walked out of the airport terminal and found a cabbie, figuring they would know where the base was. The first few cabbies didn't have any clue where the base was, it took me about 5 cabbies to figure out where it was.

So, once you get off Battlefield Blvd and turn right on Ballahack, keep going straight until you're sure there couldn't be any more signs of life, then base will appear on your left.

Stop in the Mariner and have a drink for me....

spotts
02-03-09, 03:06 PM
In 1990 we were the first class to go through at Chesapeake, Va. The base offered nothing to do and we stayed in trailers. I hope they invested some cash into the base by now.

joseph61189
02-25-09, 10:25 PM
Thought this might help in the future. This is the link to the first part of a three part series done on YouTube by The Navy/Marine Corps News dealing with the type of training done in the Security Forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YASPigGa4

thewookie
02-25-09, 11:13 PM
Place still looks the same; I'd like to get in the live house and see what they can do in there now, brings back some good memories, good post.

Old Marine
02-26-09, 09:24 AM
WOW, they have an MOS for Security Forces these days??? Back in the day all Marines were Security Forces and it didn't matter where you were stationed.

thewookie
02-26-09, 11:11 AM
WOW, they have an MOS for Security Forces these days??? Back in the day all Marines were Security Forces and it didn't matter where you were stationed.

It's been like that for at least 20 years now, Gunny. They just don't let anyone guard nukes, anymore. The Marines at PRP commands are required to have TS clearances and to be school trained on nuclear asset protection.

Today, they only have a few Security Forces posts. The old ones that have been closed/shut down are guarded by Navy and/ or civilians. The ones remaining are mostly nuclear sites guarded by Marines.

2114Wollmann
02-26-09, 11:19 AM
I have this as my MOS. I would love to go FAST. My all time goal in life along with being a Marine, is to work for the Secret Service, so I figured this MOS would be best for my future. Thanks for all the information!

thewookie
02-26-09, 11:31 AM
I have this as my MOS. I would love to go FAST. My all time goal in life along with being a Marine, is to work for the Secret Service, so I figured this MOS would be best for my future. Thanks for all the information!


Security Forces and/ or time with FAST is not going to hurt your chances to get into the USSS. A good friend of mine who I worked with at the Training Company teaching CQB is now with the uniformed division of the USSS. Of course his resume is thick like a beer can.

spotts
02-26-09, 11:36 AM
The base and training has chnaged alot since I went through in 1990. That range looks great. The range we had was about a 1 mile hump back to the woods and was horrendous.

thewookie
02-26-09, 11:47 AM
The base and training has chnaged alot since I went through in 1990. That range looks great. The range we had was about a 1 mile hump back to the woods and was horrendous.

I know the range that you are talking about, it was deep back there. The new range you see in this video was built in the early 90's. When I left there in 99 the range had 10 individual shooting cells, each cell was used for a different type of weapon/training purpose. The first 5 cells are used by the basic school, the last 5 are for FAST and/ or CQB training.

We used to get the SEALS from Dam Neck there a lot, one day they brought Dick Marchenko, who ironically was booted off the range for a few hours for not following the range rules - sleeping on the ammo table while his "shooters" were doing drills.

In 1998, Bill Rogers and the then CWO in charge of the range, CWO-5 Grasty, took the middle cell, cell 5, and turned it into one of the most impressive air controlled steel shooting cells that you might ever see. Bill Rogers is a former FBI Agent/Marksmanship Instructor who is one of the countries best shooters. Goggle Bill Rogers and his Tactical Shooting School to see what other's have to say.

In addition to the 10 shooting cells, there is a live-fire tire house, a simunition house, and the "new" CQB live fire house which is state of the art. Complete with sliding bullet proof walls, a ship board side, and pop up targets. The Navy has been very good to the Corps when it comes to funding projects down range, very good. I went down there three years ago to see some old friends and check out what they were doing down range and it looked much like this video, and much like I remembered.

spotts
02-26-09, 11:56 AM
We were like the 2nd class to graduate in Chesapeake. We lived in these cramped little trailers and were generally bored to death during down time. They had just started building a gymnasium when we were leaving. Did they still have the 5 lane bowling alley when you were there?

The new rage looks outstanding and it looks like they are getting much more extensive training then we got when I was there. Ive had the opportunity to meet Bill Rogers. Great guy and has some impressive range skills under his belt.

2114Wollmann
02-26-09, 12:47 PM
Security Forces and/ or time with FAST is not going to hurt your chances to get into the USSS. A good friend of mine who I worked with at the Training Company teaching CQB is now with the uniformed division of the USSS. Of course his resume is thick like a beer can.

That is awsome, great to hear. I wish I could still be in the Marines and the USSS at the same time. I have a feeling that I will not want to leave the corps to get the job. Thanks!

thewookie
02-26-09, 01:32 PM
We were like the 2nd class to graduate in Chesapeake. We lived in these cramped little trailers and were generally bored to death during down time. They had just started building a gymnasium when we were leaving. Did they still have the 5 lane bowling alley when you were there?

The new rage looks outstanding and it looks like they are getting much more extensive training then we got when I was there. Ive had the opportunity to meet Bill Rogers. Great guy and has some impressive range skills under his belt.

Ah man you stayed in the trailers, I heard about them. When I went through as a student in 94 we were one of the first few classes to stay in the new BEQ's. Much nicer then the trailers, nothing too special, just standard 2-3 man rooms for the NCO's and squadbays for the troops.

Yeah, Bill is a great guy, not only is he a great shooter/instructor but he's got a few patents for holsters and other "gear" he's invented/developed. After he built his range/cell at Training Company, he put all the Combat Weapons and CQB instructors through his course and quite a few of the guys couldn't handle the speed and accuracy for which you have to shoot his drills to pass.

Old Marine
02-26-09, 03:56 PM
It's been like that for at least 20 years now, Gunny. They just don't let anyone guard nukes, anymore. The Marines at PRP commands are required to have TS clearances and to be school trained on nuclear asset protection.

Today, they only have a few Security Forces posts. The old ones that have been closed/shut down are guarded by Navy and/ or civilians. The ones remaining are mostly nuclear sites guarded by Marines.

Thanks for the info Wookie. I have been retired for 35 years now and the Corps has changed a lot in that time. Back then as I stated we secured anything and everything.

thewookie
02-26-09, 04:25 PM
Thanks for the info Wookie. I have been retired for 35 years now and the Corps has changed a lot in that time. Back then as I stated we secured anything and everything.

No offense intended, Gunny. And you did a damn fine job of protecting us. Thank you. Semper Fi Marine.

Raptorman22
03-20-09, 10:20 PM
i have sucessfully made it through BSG and now i am being stationed in Rota Spain as permanent personnel anyone have any insight to what it is like?

thewookie
03-21-09, 06:06 AM
i have sucessfully made it through BSG and now i am being stationed in Rota Spain as permanent personnel anyone have any insight to what it is like?

God bless those beautiful women of Spain, man you are lucky. Have a great time Marine, you will enjoy your time. SF

Raptorman22
03-21-09, 05:29 PM
well the thing is i am married, im wanting to know what am i going to be doing there and what things i am going to need to take care of before me or my family goes over there

Pete0331
03-21-09, 06:34 PM
Thought this might help in the future. This is the link to the first part of a three part series done on YouTube by The Navy/Marine Corps News dealing with the type of training done in the Security Forces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-YASPigGa4

Most 03's will get that training, minus the shotgun.

Security Forces is not high speed.

odc25
03-22-09, 06:14 PM
Well I was up at MCSFCO Bangor and although its a lot like kingsbay you will have the time of your life up in washington, you are 45 min out of seattle, 30 min outside of tacoma, and you will have lots of good training with many chances to go to a lot of good schools such as martial arts instructor, Marine combat instructor of water survival, coaches course and many more. The Security forces in the marine corps is very good at making your SRB look good for boards and the most squarded away marines do in fact come from Security forces due to the way they are run. I was a squad leader at bangor and had 22 marines under me and left bangor with a NAM for my accomplishments at bangor, it was a lot of fun and i would go back in a heartbeat

Pete0331
03-22-09, 06:19 PM
.... and the most squarded away marines do in fact come from Security forces due to the way they are run. I was a squad leader at bangor and had 22 marines under me and left bangor with a NAM for my accomplishments at bangor, it was a lot of fun and i would go back in a heartbeat

No, that's the Individual not the Unit that causes that.

Getting drunk at the Applebee's in Silverdale isn't as good as it sounds. :cool:

odc25
03-22-09, 07:04 PM
you have to admit security forces are a whole hell of a lot more squarded away than a lot of units in the marine corps and no apples bee is no fun lol you have to go to seattle lol

GearheadJLM
07-21-09, 10:14 AM
I am currently looking to reenlist and to do MCSF. If you are married, are the tours accompanied? Is there enough time to take classes or anything like that?

thewookie
07-21-09, 11:09 AM
I am currently looking to reenlist and to do MCSF. If you are married, are the tours accompanied? Is there enough time to take classes or anything like that?

Well, first of all are you a Lance Corporal or are you a Corporal, your avatar lists one thing -- but your profile lists another.

To your first question -- I'd check with the monitor on that one, or the career planners for the latest gouge. I bet each duty station is different. Back in my day most married people got accompanied tours except for Greece where I was because it was only a year long rotation/duty station. Most tours are two - three years and I'd assume those ones are accompanied.

As an NCO - you should have time to take classes, at least on-line, and with a somewhat "set" schedule you should even be able to take them on-ground also.

GearheadJLM
07-21-09, 09:23 PM
Well, first of all are you a Lance Corporal or are you a Corporal, your avatar lists one thing -- but your profile lists another.

To your first question -- I'd check with the monitor on that one, or the career planners for the latest gouge. I bet each duty station is different. Back in my day most married people got accompanied tours except for Greece where I was because it was only a year long rotation/duty station. Most tours are two - three years and I'd assume those ones are accompanied.

As an NCO - you should have time to take classes, at least on-line, and with a somewhat "set" schedule you should even be able to take them on-ground also.

Thank you. I am a Corporal BTW. I am going to "try" to talk to my career planner more about this, but that has proven to be difficult. I think MCSF sounds like a great opportunity.

Cpl McClintock
07-28-09, 06:59 AM
Are you still at Kings Bay? I'm putting in for there (my packet just left the BN for headquarters) I know theres not much around there, my wife and I are from Jacksonville,FL so thats pretty much my whole reason for going..if she didn't have her job there she would have moved up to Lejeune with me. I mainly just want to know what the daily routine would be like for a NCO. So far I've heard the schedule is something like 4 days on 5 days off? Do NCO's get stuck standing post or are they usually COG/SOG?

Cpl McClintock
07-28-09, 01:17 PM
Hey I finally got my MCSF packet sent up and I'm trying to get Kings Bay (my wife & I are from jax. , FL) is there anyone that is still stationed there or just recently left that could tell me about the schedule? I've heard it's like 3 days on 4 days off? Do NCO's get stuck standing post often or are they mostly COGs/SOG's? and whats a good apt area off base around $700 or so.. please message me instead of replying to the thread. thanks Semper Fi

thewookie
07-29-09, 02:59 PM
Hey I finally got my MCSF packet sent up and I'm trying to get Kings Bay (my wife & I are from jax. , FL) is there anyone that is still stationed there or just recently left that could tell me about the schedule? I've heard it's like 3 days on 4 days off? Do NCO's get stuck standing post often or are they mostly COGs/SOG's? and whats a good apt area off base around $700 or so.. please message me instead of replying to the thread. thanks Semper Fi

I'll answer this in the open in case it answers another Marines question.

NCO's do not stand a typical post/duty, they do the COG/SOG thing.

I don't know about rent prices/apartment info around there, but the Kings Bay area is very nice and 700 bucks might not get you much -- I went there for a few weeks back in 98 to do a MTT for their DM's and CQB guys.

Cpl McClintock
07-29-09, 03:23 PM
Thanks for the info

thewookie
07-29-09, 04:26 PM
Thanks for the info

Good luck, Marine. Security Forces is great duty for an NCO looking for a break from the fleet. Lots of schools out there in the Navy world that you'll be working in. PM me with any direct questions that you have. I might not have up to the minute site specific info. But I've been a COG/SOG, in Greece, taught at the basic security forces school, and finished up teaching at CQB school that's also located at the Training Company and where you go to basic security forces/guard school. So I'm lucky to have a pretty good grasp on things, and I still have contacts down there to confirm things.

I'll actually be heading down that way next month for some deep sea fishing, and I'll be visiting the down-range setup at the Training Company while I'm down there. Semper Fi, Marine -- good luck.

MrGoldCal
07-29-09, 05:49 PM
This is all very good info, but do you go to SOI first before you go to the Security Force unit? or do you go to security force school then when its time for your 3 years in infantry do you go to SOI.

Thanks

thewookie
07-29-09, 06:08 PM
This is all very good info, but do you go to SOI first before you go to the Security Force unit? or do you go to security force school then when its time for your 3 years in infantry do you go to SOI.

Thanks

New grunts coming from recruit training go to SOI/ITB then to MCSF school (Training Company), then their duty assignment. So when their time is up with Security Forces, they hit the fleet where they soon find out that they're considered a boot again....:confused:

Coming from the fleet as an NCO, you would just go straight to MCSF school, and then your duty assignment.

Poolee Fraser
08-30-09, 11:59 AM
How do you get into F.A.S.T?

J Cooper
08-30-09, 08:14 PM
How do you get into F.A.S.T?
You become a grunt and if your lucky you get selected for it. Some have to fight to get into it and some are just selected. They dont want Marines who do not want to be there; it lowers the morale of the unit.

Raptorman22
08-30-09, 08:17 PM
hey there wookie my name is Sgt Benton I just recently went through BSG and now i work at the range here at training company your right this is a good opportunity for NCO's to get away from the fleet but for us non grunts its a waste of time. This B billet doesnt do squat for promotion, the only thing is that it is a fun thing that not a whole lot of us POGs get to do or see. I would suggest any NCO trying to go through the couse to not think of this as their B Billet.

thewookie
08-30-09, 09:21 PM
hey there wookie my name is Sgt Benton I just recently went through BSG and now i work at the range here at training company your right this is a good opportunity for NCO's to get away from the fleet but for us non grunts its a waste of time. This B billet doesnt do squat for promotion, the only thing is that it is a fun thing that not a whole lot of us POGs get to do or see. I would suggest any NCO trying to go through the couse to not think of this as their B Billet.

I hear ya, I never looked at it as a B Billet - back in my day the only B- Billets were MSG, Recruiter and DI Duty. I looked at it like a break from the fleet and a time to do something different. Good luck, have fun. Semper Fi

estebanalvrz
10-22-09, 11:54 AM
:flag:

Does anyone know what would be a better job? to either be a tank crewmen or marine corp marine corp security forces? i dont know witch one i should go with cause i also heard that the security forces dont get much action and they pretty much just guard stuff all the time?

Lisa 23
10-22-09, 12:17 PM
Estebanalvrz -
first...fill out all of your profile, it's in the site rules.
Second...when using the word Marine Corps, it will be capitalized at all times.
Third...did you use the search bar to find the answer to your questions?
Fourth...this question really belongs in the Ask A Marine forum.

derikdrock1989
11-19-09, 02:28 PM
How is this MOS as far as being married and kids and such. Sounds like with all the traveling country to country that you would rarely see them, or am i mistaken and your family can be stationed with you when on this duty?

152statewrstler
09-19-10, 12:03 AM
Hey i am enlistd and i ship out aug 1st.. for mcsf.. do i have any guarantees after bootcamp as to where they will put me.. do they offer me choices as to what i can do when i finish my schooling?

Quinbo
09-19-10, 12:20 AM
Are you writing this from boot camp?

152statewrstler
09-19-10, 07:41 PM
No sir, i leave soon

Lisa 23
09-19-10, 07:54 PM
Hey i am enlistd and i ship out aug 1st..

I believe Bulkyker's comment was in reference to your Aug 1st ship date. Either you missed it or it changed.

152statewrstler
09-20-10, 04:19 PM
i am heading to boot soon for mcsf do i have any guarantees after bootcamp as to where they will put me.. do they offer me choices as to what i can do when i finish my schooling for it like where to be deployed?

152statewrstler
09-20-10, 04:24 PM
pretty much what is a typical day in mcsf and do we get to pick where to be deployed or what happens?

Lisa 23
09-20-10, 06:12 PM
i am heading to boot soon for mcsf

Do you have an actual ship date for MCRD? In a previous post of yours, you said you where going to boot camp August 1st. Either you missed it, or it changed.
And at boot camp, you train to become a Marine, not go for MCSF.

152statewrstler
09-20-10, 09:13 PM
yes i ship out august 1st of next year. im doing mcsf and i was wondering like how does it work.? after i go to bootcamp and soi where do i go from there? and also after the mcsf schooling do i choose where to get deployed?

Lisa 23
09-20-10, 10:17 PM
Have you read this...


Marine Corps Security Force Battalion [MCSFBn]
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/usmc/mcsfbn.htm

152statewrstler
09-21-10, 07:33 PM
yes, sir ive read that before so after the schooling where do i go?

Lisa 23
09-21-10, 08:16 PM
yes, sir ive read that before so after the schooling where do i go?

What do I have as my avatar? And did you bother to read my profile?

And you'll go where the Marine Corps wants you to go. In other words, you'll find out when the time comes.

fence
09-22-10, 02:32 PM
currently im in the DEP and i would like some info on the MOS training after basic...if you arent on a FAST team what training do you get?

Lisa 23
09-22-10, 05:24 PM
Fence, how about a bit more of a profile so the Marines who are going to answer your questions, know who they are talking to.
And try doing a search on the site, as well as the internet, for this info. I know it's been covered here on Leatherneck before.

Ceckert85
09-22-10, 10:31 PM
I work in supply at the Assault Amphibian School Battallion.

pwineman
10-28-10, 08:10 PM
I enlisted in the Marine Corps initially as just a 0311 infantry, but in order to go to basic training early I was given security forces. Which I know nothing about, I was wondering if it is possible during SOI to somehow drop my Security Forces billet and go to the fleet as a basic Infantryman?

thewookie
10-28-10, 08:27 PM
I enlisted in the Marine Corps initially as just a 0311 infantry, but in order to go to basic training early I was given security forces. Which I know nothing about, I was wondering if it is possible during SOI to somehow drop my Security Forces billet and go to the fleet as a basic Infantryman?

Why don't you fill out your profile so we know who you are.

pwineman
10-28-10, 08:40 PM
Sorry just filled out my profile, I just registered real quick because I am on bootleave and wondering if I can make a change to my MOS at SOI.

thewookie
10-28-10, 11:05 PM
Sorry just filled out my profile, I just registered real quick because I am on bootleave and wondering if I can make a change to my MOS at SOI.

Thanks. I don't think you can do it if you are under contract, but at SOI you should ask and see what they say. You could, fail out of Security Forces school and then you'd get your wish to go to the fleet as a 03 -- but I'm not recommending that.

Good luck.

SlingerDun
10-28-10, 11:17 PM
You could, fail out of Security Forces school and then you'd get your wish to go to the fleet as a 03 -- but I'm not recommending thatThought about that real hard but just couldn't get myself to do it. I figured the USMC had jobs that needed to be filled in every nook and cranny and i had been chosen and trained to hit the fleet in a "B" billet:marine:

pwineman
10-29-10, 09:13 AM
Thank you for your responses The Wookie, and SlingerDun. I agree I dont want to fail out of Security Forces in order to get my wish, I was hoping there was another way but am prepared to do what the Marine Corps needs.

thewookie
10-29-10, 09:56 AM
Thank you for your responses The Wookie, and SlingerDun. I agree I dont want to fail out of Security Forces in order to get my wish, I was hoping there was another way but am prepared to do what the Marine Corps needs.

Don't feel bad, Leather, most Marines who go to SF duty have no clue what they are getting themselves into. There are lots of rumors out there, but not as many facts. You could get lucky, if you are a hard charger, and go to FAST, or you could get "unlucky" and spend a few years walking post and/or possibility guarding special nuclear weapons and/or assets. Either way, it is what you make it. Go there with an open mind, train hard, and see what happens.

pwineman
10-29-10, 10:12 AM
Thank you wookie I have been searching the internet for information about SF for awhile now, and thats the best advice I have heard so far.

152statewrstler
10-30-10, 05:04 PM
i am currently enilsted for mcsf..i am going as a pfc due to college yrs ..is it possible to switch to msg duty after doing 2 yrs of mcsf?

eranquist
11-08-10, 03:39 PM
this week I am getting my Security Forces contract so it will be garunteed. Going in as PFC.

pwineman
11-08-10, 08:13 PM
Nothing in the Marines is guaranteed.

ALWrestler
11-11-10, 08:23 PM
Im thinking about making this my MOS to, so after Boot Camp i would go to VA? Also to can i get my bachelors degree during my time training? Im just trying to figure out what my path would be after Basic.

thewookie
11-11-10, 08:36 PM
cna i get my bachelors degree during my time training?

The training days at the SF Training Center are very full -- typically the day starts at 0500 with PT and they end somewhere around 1800 after chow. And once the day "ends" and you're released to the barracks then the fun really starts with field days, various types of inspections, and night time remedial training/incentive PT. You are going to be fully immersed in all things security related and it's a lot for your brain housing group. So, if you think you're going to have time to focus on the training, and some college courses, you are sadly mistaken. I'm not saying it is not possible -- I am saying it's not worth your time, and very likely you won't have time. You will have time once you get done with school and get checked into your SF unit.

Many Marines fail out of Security Forces school, and if you do you can go to the grunts in the fleet and explain to your new First Sergeant why you failed. :evilgrin:

SlingerDun
11-11-10, 11:53 PM
can i get my bachelors degree during my time training?
Whoa! Dude! How long is this SF school??
I didn't go there, went to a place called Sea School. Evenings were devoted to studying what faced us in the upcoming days, and squaring away stuff that didn't get done on the bosses time. And of course learning how to shine in a grey rust bucket full of Swabbies:marine:
Yeah, like Sgt. Wook said

eranquist
11-12-10, 12:11 PM
well, my recruiter said that it will say "security forces" on my contract.

thewookie
11-12-10, 12:31 PM
well, my recruiter said that it will say "security forces" on my contract.

Tell that to your DI's. ;)

eranquist
11-14-10, 02:02 PM
Tell that to your DI's. ;)

well, I figure if I qualify for the job and I have it on my contract that they can not take that from me.. I got my contract that said "Marine Corps Security Forces" yesterday.

Rooger
11-14-10, 02:11 PM
well, I figure if I qualify for the job and I have it on my contract that they can not take that from me.. I got my contract that said "Marine Corps Security Forces" yesterday.


LMAO The Corps puts you where they need you...regardless of whats Guaranteed ! (its called the "needs of the service") Once you Graduate boot camp your Uncle Sams.

Poolee Morrison
11-15-10, 01:25 AM
Is it true that MCSF is a 5 year contract instead of 4? I heard you have to serve 2 15-month tours. Correct me if I'm wrong.

NO i do not believe so i mean my MOS is MCSF and im on a 8 year contract
4 year active and 4 year IRR.
June 1st off to MCRD PI

Poolee Morrison
11-15-10, 01:41 AM
I'll answer this in the open in case it answers another Marines question.

NCO's do not stand a typical post/duty, they do the COG/SOG thing.

I don't know about rent prices/apartment info around there, but the Kings Bay area is very nice and 700 bucks might not get you much -- I went there for a few weeks back in 98 to do a MTT for their DM's and CQB guys.
do u have a youtube channel? lol i seen something on there that says thewookie as there youtube name so jw

ArlingtonWrestl
01-19-11, 05:09 PM
So I'm home on boot leave right now and I've been looking around and asking my recruiters about SF but since its not their MOS Im not sure how much I believe their answers right now, but one of them said that I'd be going through 0311 schooling at SOI but he said it'd only be a little more than a month there. Is this true? Everywhere I've looked up says SOI but not a shortened version of it so I dont know for sure.

bardao86
01-20-11, 06:10 AM
hi, I would like to enlist in the U.S. Marines, I'm Spanish, that devotion to do? I have a chance? thanks
SEMPER FI:usmc:

Skinnyjoe
05-30-11, 01:27 AM
I want to be Security Forces F.A.S.T. Company, how do i join F.A.S.T? Someone said earlier that it is pure luck, is there anything that would improve my chances of joining FAST?

Lisa 23
05-30-11, 06:25 AM
I want to be Security Forces F.A.S.T. Company, how do i join F.A.S.T? Someone said earlier that it is pure luck, is there anything that would improve my chances of joining FAST?

This has been covered before....do a search on the site.

MrSnips
06-28-11, 05:43 PM
POST...security forces is about memorizing everything and putting up with epic rations of ****.

trainerlugo
08-11-12, 04:48 PM
Im going to bootcamp 20130311. i put security forces in my first option logistic and combat support. my only question or doubt is what kind of job youll do in infranty once you finished your years like security? and how long is the infantry school after bootcamp?