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usmc4669
04-01-04, 09:40 AM
FALLUJAH, Iraq - In a scene reminiscent of Somalia, frenzied crowds dragged the burned, mutilated bodies of four American contractors through the streets of a town west of Baghdad on Wednesday and strung two of them up from a bridge after rebels ambushed their SUVs.

Five U.S. soldiers of the 1st Infantry Division also were killed when a bomb exploded under their M-113 armored personnel carrier north of Fallujah, making it the bloodiest day for Americans in Iraq since Jan. 8.

The four contract workers were killed in Fallujah, a Sunni Triangle city about 35 miles west of Baghdad and scene of some of the worst violence on both sides of the conflict since the beginning of the American occupation a year ago.

Chanting "Fallujah is the graveyard of Americans," residents cheered after the grisly assault on two four-wheel-drive civilian vehicles left both SUVs in flames.

Residents in Fallujah said insurgents attacked the contractors with small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades. After the attack, a jubilant crowd of civilians, none of whom appeared to be armed, gathered to celebrate, dragging the bodies through the street and hanging two of them from the bridge. Many of those in the crowd were excited young boys who shouted slogans in front of television cameras.

Associated Press Television News pictures showed one man beating a charred corpse with a metal pole. Others tied a yellow rope to a body, hooked it to a car and dragged it down the main street of town. Two blackened and mangled corpses were hung from the green, iron bridge spanning the Euphrates River.

"The people of Fallujah hung some of the bodies on the old bridge like slaughtered sheep," resident Abdul Aziz Mohammed said. Some corpses were dismembered, he said.

The White House blamed terrorists and remnants of Saddam Hussein's former regime for the "horrific attacks" on the American contractors.

"It is offensive, it is despicable the way these individuals have been treated," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

Referring to the planned June 30 transfer of sovereignty to Iraqis, McClellan said "the best way to honor those that lost their lives" is to continue with efforts to bring democracy to Iraq.

State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said the contractors, all men, "were trying to make a difference and to help others."

U.S. officials did not identify the dead or the nature of their work because the next of kin had not yet been notified.

However, early evidence indicated they worked for Blackwater Security Consulting, a company based in Moyock, N.C., the company said in a statement. The security firm hires former military members from the United States and other countries to provide security training and guard services. In Iraq, the company was hired by the Pentagon to provide security for convoys that delivered food in the Fallujah area, the company statement said.

I think that it is time to start getting down to business in Iraq, we need to level Fallujah, if we kill everyone in that city so be it. From watching the news about what happen there looks like no one would help us, then I say they are all the enemy and should be treated the same. Looking at the picture that you enclosed, this young boy will one day kill American service personnel (if he hasn't already) given the chance, put a bullet between his eyes before he does that to one of our troops, burn his body if front of the leaders in Fallujah so that all can see. I say burn the damn city to the ground and tell them that we will not pay to rebuild their city.Take all American out and let them starve, do not fix their water supply, electrical system, surround the city and if anyone tried to leave shoot the bastard, unless they bring out the ones that are responsible for what happen there.
Gunny

locobrujo
04-01-04, 09:57 AM
Surround the city, give 48 hours for friendlies to leave, search every friendly as they leave, everyone left in the city after that is a target. Spend the next few months searching the entire city and nuetralizing the unfriendlies (as stated before, anyone who didn't leave when they had the chance is considered an unfriendly), then allow the friendly population back into the city and search them (and register them) as they enter.
Or we can just pull out our people from the city limits and then level the city.
Either way...

thedrifter
04-01-04, 10:08 AM
More on the subject that has been talked about in another thread

http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13614


Ellie

namgrunt
04-01-04, 12:27 PM
I would like to see each and every man, woman, and child, who were videotaped dancing at the death of Americans, taken into custody. For that matter, take everyone in Fallujah into custody, and tow them out to sea aboard a garbage scow. Leave them adrift in shark infested waters, and form a ring of warships around the scow at four miles radius.

Back ashore, level each and every structure in Fallujah, and turn it into the biggest non-weapons grade radiation hazard in the Middle East. When people see the glow in the middle of the darkest night, they will remember what happens to our enemies, and give all Americans a wide berth. It will serve as an example to the radical Islamic "fighters" what will happen to their hometowns and families if they mess with us.

It sounds harsh, but it leaves them alive, and able to comtemplate their own stupidity. Those folks who can swim, if they make it to the nearest warship, will be given one last chance to live in peace. After that, no mercy.

There has to be an impression made of the consequences of attacking Americans anywhere on the planet. We will be victorious, or we will live in fear of our own shadow. I vote for victory.

25snakeman02
04-01-04, 02:37 PM
Marines and Members, Remember there was video shot and pictures. If We are lucky, those are being viewed this very moment. I hope those babbling idiots are enjoying thier last moments of Life because the Marines are coming and they are coming for them. The part I like about the Iraqis, they have the responsibility of getting information out of them. What no ACLU over there, too bad for those rotten B__tards. Those 72 rotten Ho's are waiting for them in Hell! One more thought on this, somebody got lax. This is not Disney World, folks want you dead in the worst way over there. It is shame these Americans died, as in all accidents I sincerely hope the living will be better prepared.

Semper Fi

Snake out

david43844
04-01-04, 03:27 PM
I'm a man of few words "kill em all let Alah sort em out"

charlie222
04-01-04, 05:48 PM
Everytime there is crowds of these killers enjoying the work of "Allah", we should lock on to that location and send in ten or twenty 2,000 pounds of ordnances and set back and watch the power of revenge. charlie222 over & out.

mrbsox
04-01-04, 07:23 PM
I generally tend to lean towards a FIRM peace. PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER comes to mind.

I lean towards offering the Olive branch, and use the tree limb if they get hostile.

But if they want to start that 'Holy War Allah' chant crap, they need to remember that OUR HOLY WAR will be Old Testiment Proportions.

When God instructed 'his people' to go to war, it included TOTAL annihilation. TOTAL, as in kill the sheep and dogs and rats and... TOTAL. No stone shall stand upon another.

Be carefull what you wish for...
the MARINES are back.

Terry

ivalis
04-01-04, 09:32 PM
why doesn't anybody identify the "civilians" as mercenaries???

Sparrowhawk
04-01-04, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by ivalis
why doesn't anybody identify the "civilians" as mercenaries???


http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/01/nytfrontpage/scan.jpg


It wasn't because they were "civilians” or "mercenaries" that they were killed, mutilated and dragged through the streets.

No it was because they were;



"AMERICANS"

Sparrowhawk
04-01-04, 10:04 PM
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04-01-04, 10:04 PM
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04-01-04, 10:05 PM
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04-01-04, 10:06 PM
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04-01-04, 10:06 PM
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04-01-04, 10:07 PM
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04-01-04, 10:07 PM
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Sparrowhawk
04-01-04, 10:15 PM
4 From U.S. Killed in Ambush in Iraq; Mob Drags Bodies
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN

Published: April 1, 2004


ALLUJA, Iraq, March 31 — Four Americans working for a security company were ambushed and killed Wednesday, and an enraged mob then jubilantly dragged the burned bodies through the streets of downtown Falluja, hanging at least two corpses from a bridge over the Euphrates River.

Less than 15 miles away, in the same area of the increasingly violent Sunni Triangle, five American soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb ripped through their armored personnel carrier.

The violence was one of the most brutal outbursts of anti-American rage since the war in Iraq began more than a year ago. And the steadily deteriorating situation in the Falluja area, a center of anti-American hostility west of Baghdad, has become so precarious that no American or Iraqi forces responded to the attack against the civilians, who worked for a North Carolina company.

American officials said the civilians were traveling in two sport utility vehicles although some witnesses in Falluja said there were four. "Two got away; two got trapped," said Muhammad Furhan, a taxi driver.

It is not clear what the four Americans were doing in Falluja or where they were going. But just as they were passing a strip of stationery stores and kebab shops around 10:30 a.m., masked gunmen jumped into the street and blasted their vehicles with assault rifles. Witnesses said the civilians did not shoot back.

There are a number of police stations in Falluja and a base of more than 4,000 marines nearby, but even as the security guards were being swarmed and their vehicles set on fire, sending plumes of inky smoke over the closed shops of the city, there were no ambulances, no fire engines and no assistance.

Instead, Falluja's streets were thick with men and boys and chaos.

Men with scarves over their faces hurled bricks into the blazing vehicles. A group of boys yanked a smoldering body into the street and ripped it apart. Someone then tied a chunk of flesh to a rock and tossed it over a telephone wire.

"Viva mujahedeen!" shouted Said Khalaf, a taxi driver. "Long live the resistance!"

Nearby, a boy no older than 10 ground his heel into a burned head. "Where is Bush?" the boy yelled. "Let him come here and see this!"

Masked men gathered around him, punching their fists into the air. The streets filled with hundreds of people. "Falluja is the graveyard of Americans!" they chanted.

Several news crews filmed the mayhem. The images of a frenzied crowd mutilating bodies were reminiscent of the scene from Somalia in 1993, when a mob dragged the body of an American soldier through the streets of Mogadishu. That moment shifted public opinion and eventually led to an American pullout.

The White House blamed terrorists and remnants of Saddam Hussein's former government for the attack. "This is a despicable attack," Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman, told reporters, adding that "there are some that are doing everything they can to prevent" a transfer of sovereignty to an Iraqi government on June 30.

American military officials said the violence in Falluja, however chilling, would not scare them away. "The insurgents in Falluja are testing us," said Capt. Chris Logan, a marine. "They're testing our resolve. But it's not like we're going to leave. We just got here."

Captain Logan, who is stationed at a large walled base on the outskirts of the city, said Falluja was becoming "an area of greater concern." Last week, a contingent of marines, who recently took over responsibility for Falluja from the Army, fought gunmen in a battle in which one marine, a television cameraman and several Iraqi civilians were killed.

"This is one of those areas in Iraq that is definitely squirrelly," Captain Logan said.

Many people in Falluja said they believed that they had won an important victory on Wednesday. They insisted that the four security guards, who were driving in unmarked sport utility vehicles, were working for the Central Intelligence Agency.

"This is what these spies deserve," said Salam Aldulayme, a 28-year-old Falluja resident.

Super Dave
04-01-04, 10:16 PM
Those MOTHER ****ERS that did all need to die slowly and painfully!!

ivalis
04-01-04, 10:18 PM
hey, ya get the big money, ya takes your risks

namgrunt
04-01-04, 11:03 PM
Ivalis:

We don't need to call them mercenaries. You just did that, didn't you? It would be redundant to do so again.

Of course, it would also be necessary to refer to the mercenaries who drive our bank armored cars to and fro in our nation. It would also be necessary to refer to the mercenaries who protect your favorite Hollywood stars, like Rosie O'Donnel, lest some crazy gun-loving second amendment freak should threaten her life. Anyone who is not in the military or a commissioned law enforcement officer could be REFERRED to as a mercenary. Security guards at banks, shopping malls, sports events, etc., etd., can be defined by such an interpretation.

You really need to be more precise. :D

P.S. Having once been a Marine, YOU could be identified as a "mercenary" by certain people.

BC22
04-01-04, 11:38 PM
Said Khalaf
Salam Aldulayme

They need to die.

usmc4669
04-02-04, 09:18 AM
why doesn't anybody identify the "civilians" as mercenaries???


hey, ya get the big money, ya takes your risks

Man you are sick

I think that Sparrowhawk answered your question ivalis. From what I read they were there to protect convoys carrying food and to protect the others that were sent to help rebuild Iraq, not to fight, like any security unit only to protect. Looking at the pictures posted by Sparrowhawk do you ivalis think that they were within their right to kill these Americans the way that they did? Like someone else said before, you are good with one liners.

Waiting for your one liner ivalis.

d c taveapont
04-02-04, 10:13 AM
NOW its the time to round the perps up. and what ever happens happens.

Sparrowhawk
04-02-04, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by ivalis
hey, ya get the big money, ya takes your risks


Earlier this month, four U.S. missionaries working on a water project were shot to death in Mosul.

One missionary survived with injuries.

I guess they were also there for the money?





UPDATE: Two Foreign Civilians Killed In N Iraq


DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
March 28, 2004 7:02 a.m.

(Updates with official saying Britons were guards, details of Baqouba bomb.)

BAGHDAD (AP)--Gunmen killed two foreign civilians in a drive-by shooting in a city in northern Iraq Sunday, and an official said the dead were Britons.

U.S. soldiers and Iraqi police sealed off the area in Mosul after the shooting. Witnesses saw two partly burned bodies, both clad in bulletproof jackets, lying beside a four-wheel drive vehicle that was on fire. One victim had been shot in the head.

An Iraqi official at the power station in the east of Mosul said the victims were U.K. guards who were protecting foreign experts working at the station. Speaking on condition of anonymity, the official said a second car carrying the experts escaped the attack.

The names of the victims were not immediately known.

The U.S. military in Baghdad said it had no information.

Insurgents have targeted foreign civilians, possibly as a means of undermining reconstruction efforts in Iraq.

Earlier this month, four U.S. missionaries working on a water project were shot to death in Mosul. One missionary survived with injuries.

Also Sunday, assailants detonated a bomb in Baqouba, a city northeast of Baghdad, injuring five bystanders, including two children. It was unclear whether the blast targeted a policeman who lives near the site of the explosion, or the house of a carpenter who has received threats because he has worked for U.S. forces.

The blast in a residential area of Baqouba, where anti-U.S. insurgents are active, wounded an eight-year-old boy and his 10-year-old sister, police Captain Mohammed Hadi said. The policeman and the carpenter were unharmed.

Further north, in Kirkuk, a bomb exploded at an intersection where police cars park daily. Three civilians were injured, police Colonel Dashti Aziz said. As bystanders gathered after the blast, gunmen opened fire from a passing car, but there were no casualties. Police said the shooters were later apprehended.

Rebels routinely target police and other Iraqis who are working with the U.S.-led coalition that is governing Iraq, but civilians often get caught in the crossfire.

On Saturday, rebel rockets slammed into a government building in the northern city of Mosul, killing two civilians and wounding 14 others.

The rocket launcher was hidden in a wooden cart that was wheeled up to a blast wall surrounding the three-story main government building, said Mosul police Sergeant Jassim Mohammed.

In the country's south Saturday, a gunman shot and killed the Iraqi driver of a civilian truck carrying supplies to Japan's military, Japan's Kyodo News agency said. The attack was an apparent robbery attempt.

Japan's Defense Agency said a civilian truck hired to transport supplies to Japanese troops in Samawah had been attacked. Tokyo has about 1,000 naval, air, and ground forces in Iraq to help with reconstruction.

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,BT_CO_20040328_000358,00.html

locobrujo
04-02-04, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by ivalis
why doesn't anybody identify the "civilians" as mercenaries???


Why do they have to be identified as mercenaries just because they are civilians?
Because some of us choose to work overseas on government contracts we are mercenaries?
Last year in Colombia a small aircraft flown and operated by civilians on a Defense Department contract had engine failure and was forced to land on top of a hill in the middle of Colombia. There were 4 American civilians and one Colombian Army soldier on board. After making an outstanding landing, the crew was surrounded by Colombian guerillas, commonly known as FARC, whereupon the Colombian soldier and one of the American pilots were executed and the remaining three Americans taken prisoner. That was February 13th, 2003 and the 3 civilian contractors (one of which is a Marine) are still being held prisoner. They are not mercenaries. They were/are 2 pilots, US Army Vietnam veterans, and two mechanics, one of them an Army vet and the other a Marine. A couple of weeks after this, another aircraft was looking for them and crashed. All three crewmembers were killed. Of those three crew members, one of the pilots was a former SEAL and the mechanic an Army vet.
I also have many friends and coworkers working in Kuwait, Iraq, and other places who are not mercenaries. They are aircraft mechs, pilots, supply clerks, refuelers, etc. working on government contracts for the Army, Air Force and State Department.
I guess my point is: A civilian with a gun in place like Iraq doesn't mean they are a merc. If it does, then we are going to have to reclassify a lot of security guards working in the USA...

25snakeman02
04-02-04, 02:05 PM
From Marine Corps Times today "Early Bird Brief": U.S. Vows To Find Civilians’ Killers
Marines Move To Seal Off Fallujah; Army Steps Up Patrols in Baghdad
[Washington Post, April 2, 2004, Pg. 1]
U.S. officials intend to hunt down those responsible for the killing and mutilation of four American civilians in Fallujah. They acknowledged that ordinary Iraqis, not just religious militants, are behind some of the violence committed against the U.S.-led occupation.


Waiting with Great Anticipation for more on this matter. The Dogs of War will soon be unleashed .. you can run but you will only be tired when the Dogs of War find you and finish you"!

ivalis, you one are piece of work!

Snake out

"Don't let the screen door hit ya on the way out!" Author unknown

25snakeman02
04-02-04, 02:09 PM
USMC4669 and Sparrowhawk, thanks for the Pics, that our Media (Freedom of the Press) refused to print here in Richmond because it is too disturbing. UUUUUUGH No wonder Americans have no idea wat it means to slug it out!

Any way thanks from this Marine

Snake out

vfm
04-02-04, 03:07 PM
these animals don't understand any thing but tyrany and surpression. We should have a standing order over there; any crowd gathering , lock & load and open fire. We've gotten to the point where our humane treatment and political correctness has been used against us.
Semper Fi !!!
vfm

ivalis
04-02-04, 06:09 PM
the jobs being done by the "contractors" should of been done by the Iraqi Army. One little problem, we FIRED em.

d c taveapont
04-02-04, 06:19 PM
what is it bros, did the US make a bad judgement? if we fight fire with fire than the country and our leaders in washington better not be crying inhuman treatment of the enemy...because I know some one well go to far. and we as a country must support that person....

usmc4669
04-02-04, 06:28 PM
ivalis



the jobs being done by the "contractors" should of been done by the Iraqi Army. One little problem, we FIRED em.

Another one liner.

mrbsox
04-02-04, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by ivalis
the jobs being done by the "contractors" should of been done by the Iraqi Army. One little problem, we FIRED em.

One Liner !!!

MAYBE the solution is just that simple too !!

It shouldn't take a rocket scientest to see that this is a MILITARY situation....
Keep the Fkn politics out of it, get it over and done... THEN let the politicians do what they do.

Osotogary
04-02-04, 09:43 PM
I can envision, without one ounce of regret, a bullet hole in each and every "merry-maker" head in those photos.

I have biased opinion:
My son has been contracted to work in that area and God forbid that something like this should happen to him or any American, ever again. I guess I'm up "Sensitivity Creek" with this topic.
My feelings and concerns, fears and apprehensions are, not in any regard, political - more like Father/Son.
I understand the inherent risks of contract work, for anyone, in this geographically volatile area but these acts of mockery severely rattle my cage. So far, the cage hasn't stopped rattling.

Gary(osotogary)

lurchenstein
04-03-04, 01:34 AM
Originally posted by Osotogary
I can envision, without one ounce of regret, a bullet hole in each and every "merry-maker" head in those photos.


Only rivaled by the post 9-11 "merry-makers". (Don't blame you for being p!ssed.)

Happy to hear your son was able to tell you about the incident. Pray both of your sons will accomplish their missions & return to you.

semperfi89
04-03-04, 01:49 AM
Let's hope the Marines over there respond with carefully planned HELL for all those animals who took part in that cowardly killing.

Semper Fi

snipowsky
04-03-04, 06:34 AM
IT'S PAY BACK TIME! There is no hoping about it. The United States WILL GET PAY BACKS. Hopefully 1000 fold too!

Need any volunteers? If so I'm sure you'd find plenty on this site!

Semper Fi to all Marines and I pray for these four dedicated Americans who died by cowardly hands in Fallujah, Iraq!

TRUE AMERICAN HEROS

Wesley J. Batalona
Jerko "Jerry" Zovko
Scott Helvenston
Michael Teague

Anyone remember "Combat Missions" with Scott Helvenston in Delta Squad? If not here is a link:

http://www.usanetwork.com/series/combatmissions/squads/delta.html

Sparrowhawk
04-03-04, 07:35 AM
Get real, who do you think was behind those black masks? Who fired the first rounds? Who incited the mob, organized the attack?

"The former Iraqi Army!"

You said,
Originally posted by ivalis
the jobs being done by the "contractors" should of been done by the Iraqi Army. One little problem, we FIRED em.


"We fired them!"

Heck we should have shot them, that way they wouldn't have gathered in Fallujah.

thedrifter
04-03-04, 07:49 AM
You say Fallujah, I say Rambo!
Kathleen Parker (archive)


April 3, 2004

I suppose it would be considered lacking in nuance to nuke the Sunni Triangle.

But so goes the unanimous vote around my household - and I'm betting millions of others - in the aftermath of what forevermore will be remembered simply as "Fallujah."

Wouldn't it be lovely were justice so available and so simple? If we were but creatures like those zoo animals we witnessed gleefully jumping up and down after stomping, dragging, dismembering and hanging the charred remains of American civilians whose only crime was to try to help them.

These are the times that try Americans' souls.

By now we're all saturated with the images of the four dead, members of a security team who escorted American convoys carrying food supplies to an ungrateful town. The four were killed by gunmen who ambushed and torched their vehicles before an angry mob, including children as young as 10, hauled out and mutilated the burning bodies.

It is hard at such times to keep one's head, to remain calm, to rise above the impulse to exact immediate revenge. Or to cut and run, as we did under similar circumstances in Somalia not so long ago. But keep our heads we must. Calmly we must transcend the primitive lust that compels ignorant others to mug idiotically for cameras.

Our revenge will be in facing down enemies who, though unworthy adversaries, impede the worthy goal of stabilizing a country whose future may predict our own. To retreat now would merely feed the terrorists' appetite for America's immediate failure en route to her ultimate demise.

Trust me when I say, I sorely want to leave. I want every mother's son and daughter home for dinner tonight. I want no malevolent Islamist fanatic in my thoughts or dreams ever again. I want to roll over and drift into careless sleep, mumbling, "Not this millennium, dear."

Sadly, we have no such option. We've learned that much. Retreating from the kind of evil we witnessed in Mogadishu, Somalia, in 1993, where a mob dragged a U.S. Army Ranger's body through the streets, and now Fallujah serves only to nourish people for whom brutality is a pastime.

Moreover, we've seen the sort of chaos we'd be leaving other Iraqis - the good, decent Iraqi people who trusted us once again - to face alone. We have no choice but to stay the course and fulfill our commitment. That said, it would be nice if the international community would step up to the plate and insist on justice. This isn't just America's war, but America's response to a war that was brought to us.

Fast-forwarding through all the familiar arguments against going to war in Iraq - and at great risk of boring myself into an irreversible nap - suffice it to say that Iraq was, as weapons investigator David Kay reported, in a position to create weapons of mass destruction and historically inclined to do so.

Yes, mistakes were made; intelligence was bad; stay tuned for 9-11 commission revelations to come. But post-Sept. 11, we couldn't afford to hope Saddam Hussein discovered his inner Mr. Rogers, even as he refused to cooperate with U.N. inspectors or to abide by resolutions demanding proof of disarmament.

We live in a terrifying new world - and we're justified in not liking it - but we get no breaks for denial. The terrorists who rained hell on our country two-and-a-half years ago were agents of America's reluctant maturation.

Until Sept. 11, we couldn't imagine that people purposely would fly airplanes into our buildings. Until Tuesday, we couldn't imagine that people we're trying to feed would murder and mutilate us.

Americans have the appealing if self-defeating habit of projecting their values onto others who haven't enjoyed centuries of self-enlightenment. But we learn and mean well.

What we know, and what we tell the rest of the world by our steadfastness, is that we will help even the unworthy; we will not back down from a just cause even when appalled and afraid; we mean what we say.

Still, a well-placed MOAB smack in the Sunni Triangle ... but then, we are not animals. A reel of Rambo will have to do.



©2004 Tribune Media Services

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/kathleenparker/kp20040403.shtml


Ellie

ydna
04-03-04, 09:08 AM
Give them a lead poisoning between the eyes of 69 or 168 grains.
After that let them enjoy a nice barbecue, mayby a little burnt on no problem they like that.
After that a nice funerall somewhere in the middle of nowhere with one little detail, bury them in the shin of a pig.

usmc4669
04-03-04, 09:25 AM
ydna you are a truck driver, I have a picture I want to send you.

This is a decal that my son designed for truckers in the USA. Some truckers have them on their trucks here. The chicken' Haulers are those who have all of the lights (chicken' lights)on their trucks. They are what we call Chicken hauling truckers.

david43844
04-03-04, 04:28 PM
All I know is politics cost us dearly in VietNam,It still burns my butt to have been told to obseve when we were getting hit on an LZ @ Red Beach,I pray that politics does not cost us agine in iraq. Semper Fi, David Sparks