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marinemom
03-12-04, 04:52 AM
March 12, 2004

Camp Delta Briton: 'We were chained and beaten'
By Andrew Clennell
London Times


Jamal al-Harith

The first British Guantanamo Bay inmate to sell his story claimed last night that inmates were given repeated punishment beatings and chained in irons for hours on end.

Jamal al-Harith, 37, a divorced father-of-three from Manchester, said that detainees were shackled with leg cuffs with metal links that cut into the skin.

He claims to have been questioned 40 times by FBI, CIA and MI5 agents and said that while he was interrogated he was bolted to the floor for up to 12 hours at a time.

As punishment in the camp, inmates were forced to lie in a ball for hours, he said.

"Sometimes you would be chained up on the floor with your hands and feet actually bound together. One of my friends told me he was kept like that for 15 hours once," Mr al-Harith told the Daily Mirror.

Mr al-Harith claimed the water served to inmates was foul - yellow in Camp X-ray and black in Camp Delta - and that the diet was rice and beans.

"They would shut off the water before prayers so we couldn't wash ourselves according to our religion," he said.

"They would play tricks on people by denying them things - you might be the only person on your block who didn't get any bread.

"They actually said 'You have no rights here'.

"After a while we stopped asking for human rights - we wanted animal rights."

He went on: "You would be punished for anything - for having six packets of salt in your cell rather than five, for hanging your towel through the cage if it wasn't wet, even for having your spoon and things lined up in the wrong order."

He said inmates were forced to use a bucket as a toilet in view of other inmates and guards.

"I never got used to it - we would all put our towels and clothes around us.

"We were only allowed a shower once a week at the beginning and none at all in solitary confinement. This was very tough because you were supposed to be clean when you pray. Gradually the number of showers rose to three a week. They were always cold.

"You could be chained by two MPs while you were still in the cage before being taken off for what they called 'rec and shower'."

Inmates were issued with "comfort items" - known as CIs - which would be removed sometimes as a punishment, he said. These included shampoo, towels, washcloths and boxer shorts.

Al-Harith said he refused "treats", such as watching a James Bond film.

"Some people were given pizzas, ice cream and McDonalds but they didn't offer them to me. I guess they knew bribery would work with some and not with others."

In Camp X-Ray, he said inmates were given Mills and Boon-style romance novels in Arabic, which they refused to read.

"When I did meet the other Brits, we would reminisce about home - particularly the food.

"We were all obsessed with Scottish Highland Shortbread - we wanted some so much.

"One of the Brits told me he was asked why he was a Muslim, because he ought to be praying to the Queen."

Of his experience, he said: "It was very, very hard at times, but I tried to think about nothing but survival.

"I kept my thoughts from home as much as possible because it would drive me crazy.

"About a year into my time, I had a dream. A voice said: 'You will be here for two years.

"In my dream, I said: 'Two years! You're joking'. But when I woke up, I was calmer because at least that meant I would be getting out one day.

"I was sent to Guantanamo on February 11, 2002 and left on March 9, 2004, so I was there for just over two years, just like the voice in the dream said."

Mr al-Harith was one of five detainees to be released without charge from Paddington Green police station after being questioned by anti-terrorist branch detectives.

Nine Britons were originally held at Camp Delta by the US. Four Britons remain in custody there, despite calls by their families and human rights

namgrunt
03-12-04, 08:13 AM
If Mr. al-Harith thinks he had it bad at Gitmo, he should be glad he never went through boot camp. He would not have made it to graduation. We went through the similar treatment, but were expected to train and work as well. I bet he didn't have to eat by the numbers, nor 'march' the Grinder at double-time with a large footlocker on his shoulder at midnight. On top of that, we had to pay for our toilet items, such as toothpaste, soap, and skivvies. Gitmo sounds mild in comparison.

Some day, Jamal al-Harith will look back on those times in Gitmo with an odd nostalgia. He will tell his grandchildren of surviving at the hands of the "Angels of Death", as some of our enemies have called us Marines. I'm sure he will 'wear' his Marine contact with pride.

Isn't life strange?

Semper Fi!

bobpage
03-12-04, 10:43 AM
Sold his story....nuff said.

jfreas
03-12-04, 02:35 PM
Amen to that. As a novel and not a true confession. I hope the next time he bows toward mecca a Camel drops a load on him.

jfreas
03-12-04, 02:37 PM
I meant as a Fiction. Got so ****ed I couldn't think of thw right word.

jfreas
03-12-04, 02:39 PM
Wonder when the lawsuit will be filed??

namgrunt
03-12-04, 03:39 PM
Gunny, you have a graphic gift for pictures. (Camel dropping)
LOL I enjoyed that one.

Semper Fi!

kentmitchell
03-13-04, 07:30 AM
Anyone who believes what they read in Brit newspapers should give me a call. I know about a bridge that's for sale.

jfreas
03-13-04, 08:14 AM
Hey, can ya get me a good price on it?

sneaky beaky
03-13-04, 01:28 PM
Hey kentmitchell,
You have got it dead right. As a Brit I am disgusted at our newspapers. Anything that is controversial is printed. Anything that is true is not printed. Not newsworthy enough.
Those guys released from "Gitmo" are now fully released. No charges. The next thing that will happen is that :-
1. They will all sell their story to the English newspapers at a good price.
2. They will all claim compensation for wrongful imprisonment . And what is even more annoying - they will get it!!
Sorrowfully,
Sneaky Beaky

lurchenstein
03-14-04, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by sneaky beaky
As a Brit I am disgusted at our newspapers. Anything that is controversial is printed. Anything that is true is not printed. Not newsworthy enough.

Sneaky,
Your newspapers have much in common with the LA Times. Hard to tell which newspapers are not tabloids these days.:bandit:

bobpage
03-15-04, 10:30 AM
Lurchenstein,
In the (mockingly) tradition of any Bay area resident, NEVER forget the San Francisco Chronicle and how quick they will jump on a story like this. They will say he was horribly treated, and our government/military are barbaric. Then, he will get a lawyer (actually 900 of them will drop on top of each other to get his case from SF) and sue. LA Times notwithstanding, our dopey residents can really hold up a farse like this.

namgrunt
03-15-04, 02:17 PM
Next thing you know, Mr. al-Harith will be romantically connected with Britney Spears. There will be a photo of the "happy couple" running out of some Las Vegas wedding chapel. It should be good for the evening, before rumors of the divorce begin.

Then Jamal will show up on "Taliban Idol" star search program, yodeling for his favorite couscous. Its so nice to read about such talented people in the news these days. For some reason, a Dudley Moore/Eddie Murphy movie comes to mind.

"Enquiring minds ....blah, blah, blah"

Osotogary
03-15-04, 05:37 PM
bobpage,
Is the San Francisco Examiner still being printed? I think that there was also a San Francisco News Call Bulletin. Either way, there is probably going to be decreed a "Jamal-al-Harith Day" pretty soon. If something is good enough to cause a controversy...have a parade down Market Street.
Long live the Oakland Tribune.
LOL

sgt.lane
03-15-04, 09:32 PM
that does not even make good butt wipe material!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert Carnot
03-16-04, 04:20 PM
I hope he has two quarters--------so he can call someone who gives a f**k!

Bob C.

jfreas
03-16-04, 10:07 PM
Wonder which talk show he'll be on first. Anyone wanna take a guess?