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Shaffer
03-10-04, 01:03 PM
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AP) -- Haiti's interim president took the reins of his country's shattered government Monday as supporters of Jean-Bertrand Aristide demanded the ousted leader's return. U.S. Marines acknowledged they killed one of seven people gunned down in weekend violence -- the first armed action of their week-old mission here.

Military helicopters circled overhead and U.S. Marines in armored cars patrolled the streets Monday outside the National Palace as Boniface Alexandre was formally installed.

"Aristide or death!" Aristide supporters yelled at the gates of the palace during the ceremony, their shouts carrying into the room where Alexandre urged his countrymen to remain calm.

"We are all brothers and sisters," said Alexandre, who has served as president for a week and was officially sworn in Feb. 29. "We are all in the same boat, and if it sinks, it sinks with all of us."

Earlier, Aristide declared from his African exile that he was still president of Haiti and urged "peaceful resistance" in his homeland.

"I am the democratically elected president and I remain so. I plead for the restoration of democracy," Aristide said from Bangui, Central African Republic, in his first public appearance since he fled Haiti Feb. 29 aboard a plane chartered by the U.S. government.

Aristide said his departure was a "political kidnapping (that) unfortunately opened the road to an occupation."

The United States denies Aristide's charge that he was forced to step down. But the 15-nation Caribbean Community has called for an international investigation.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said, "If Mr. Aristide really wants to serve his country, he really has to, we think, let his nation get on with the future and not try to stir up the past again."

Aristide was a wildly popular slum priest, elected on promises to champion the poor who make up the vast majority of Haiti's 8 million people. But he has lost support, with Haitians saying he failed to improve their lives, condoned corruption and used police and armed supporters to attack his political opponents.

U.S. Marines and French Legionnaires have been in Haiti since Aristide's departure Feb. 29, the vanguard of a U.N. force to restore peace to the country, where a monthlong rebellion left more than 130 dead. On Monday, there were about 1,600 Marines, 800 French soldiers and police and 130 Chilean troops in Haiti.

mrbsox
03-10-04, 04:37 PM
I've posted the same in another thread;

Guard OUR property and interests, U.S. Citizens, etc.

That's ALL !!

Now... if it takes a MEU to do it, FINE

If it takes the un (little u, little n) 2 years to pass a resolution, after umpteen studies and inquiries, FINE

It's OUR property, OUR investment, OUR people, OUR right to defend it

Kalbo
03-10-04, 04:43 PM
mrbsox, I agree completely, get our people out and pop smoke.

vfm
03-10-04, 05:58 PM
I agree Protect our people.
Semper Fi !!!
vfm

mrbsox
03-10-04, 09:26 PM
I didn't say anything about leaving...

That's OUR property, GUARD it, and guard it well. And everything inside.

Kalbo
03-11-04, 02:51 AM
mrbsox

Sorry to have misquoted you.

Kalbo

namgrunt
03-11-04, 05:24 PM
Haiti is NOT an American protectorate. We may have a history of involvment, but that doesn't mean we have to pull their butts out of the fire this time. They have had as many coup de etats as we have baseball teams.

Protect US Territory within the nation of Haiti, but that is all. Any and all American civilians should already be at our Embassy, or on their way home. If they choose to stay in the open population of their own free will, they do so at their own risk. The Haitians have already instigated one armed response from Marines. We don't need to coddle them further.

Let the global committee (u.n.) handle this. They always claim to know more than our government. Put it to use.

Thats how I see it.
Semper Fi!

mrbsox
03-11-04, 09:43 PM
No harm Kalbo.

And I didn't mean to come back sounding 'sharp'.

Terry

JBrac420
03-13-04, 01:51 PM
Hell, the Marines have been in and out of Haiti so much in the last 80 years we should just buy land and set up shop. LOL.
Semper fi
Brac

PMBurroughs
03-14-04, 08:46 PM
Ameica is great because our fore-fathers stood up to fight for liberty. Other countries need to earn the right to have their own liberty by getting their **** together and fighting for it. If they don't want it enough by laying their lives on the line and coming together to build a government that protects individual rights, then screw them. Nobody comes to our aid when we have problems. So why should we come to theirs. And don't give me the crap about being better then other countries. Try telling that to a mother and father who loses their loved ones to some thug in a third world country. The only countries that reserve the right for our assistance are those that stand with us in a time of crisis.

benny rutledge
03-15-04, 01:19 PM
JBrac420 is right,wasn't Chesty Puller the Provincial Chief in Haiti for over two years?

gary clayton
03-20-04, 07:09 AM
Agree with Jbrac420, as often as we have been there (to my last count 49 times since 1853) we should just take the whole damn place and make it 'CAMP PULLER', we'd definately get some quality jungle and insurgent training areas to utilyze in getting our brothers and sisters back into the 'small wars' mentality.