PDA

View Full Version : Suicide May Keep Veteran From Eternal Recognition



Phantom Blooper
03-06-04, 09:02 PM
Memorial Wall Official Fights Federal Approval to Add Name
By Monte Reel
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 6, 2004; Page B01


The Defense Department customarily orders a few new names to be engraved onto the Vietnam Veterans Memorial each year, giving a couple of inches of permanent recognition to individual veterans who died from combat wounds years after the war ended.



This year, one name being considered -- Air Force Capt. Edward Alan Brudno -- is sparking a new debate about how the war's toll should be measured and raising delicate questions about who deserves a spot on the glossy granite panels and who doesn't.

What if the wounds were psychological, and what if they resulted in suicide? Should the names of those veterans be etched onto the memorial? Or would that open the door to thousands of additions that might alter both the monument's appearance and its spirit?

The Air Force Personnel Office says that Brudno's name belongs on the wall. He endured 71/2 years as a prisoner of war after his F-4 was shot down over North Vietnam in 1965. Four months after he returned home in 1973, he killed himself in his wife's family home in Harrison, N.Y. He was the first released POW to die.

This year, after members of Brudno's family asked the Defense Department to consider adding his name to the wall, the Air Force launched a medical review of his case and ruled that Brudno's suicide was a direct result of "both psychological and physical wounds" suffered in Vietnam, said Maj. John Thomas, a spokesman for the Air Force Personnel Center in San Antonio.

But when word of the recommendation reached the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund about 10 days ago, President Jan C. Scruggs argued against the idea. Brudno's family had approached Scruggs years earlier to see whether they could get his name added to the wall, and Scruggs referred them to the Defense Department. But after the Air Force made its recommendation, Scruggs balked. He sent letters to staffers on Capitol Hill warning that adding Brudno's name to the wall would set a precedent that could result in thousands of suicides being added to the 58,325 names on the wall. He said he would press for congressional hearings to stop the addition, if necessary.

"Societies do not condone certain behaviors, as understandable and unfortunate as they may be, and suicide is one of those behaviors," Scruggs said by telephone yesterday. "It's something to be discouraged, not encouraged."

The efforts to keep Brudno's name off the wall have outraged his family and former POWs who served with him. His brother, Robert Brudno, of Bethesda, said he considers Scruggs's campaign to keep his brother's name off the memorial a dishonor to a family that followed proper military procedure to get the name engraved. He said that the effort to stop the addition demonstrates that Scruggs is trying to assert undue control over a memorial that Brudno said belongs to everyone, not the man who founded it.

"I feel like my brother has become a prop," Brudno said. "I set out to do this because I loved the guy."

There is no solid count of Vietnam veterans who have committed suicide after the war, and estimates range from a few thousand to 180,000 by the Veterans of Foreign Wars. The memorial currently includes the names of veterans who killed themselves while in Vietnam, but none who committed suicide after returning home. If Brudno's name is added, Scruggs argues, thousands of families will try to get names added to a memorial that doesn't have room for them.

"If the Department of Defense decides to go down this route, I guarantee you -- and the Department of Defense -- that 20,000 families of service members who committed suicide will demand, and will now have legal standing, to place those names on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial," Scruggs said.

That contention doesn't sit well with some former POWs, who say that Brudno's suicide came before the military grasped the psychological impact Vietnamese prison camps could have on someone like Brudno, who was 25 when he was captured and a day from his 33rd birthday when he killed himself. The native of Quincy, Mass., had studied aeronautical engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and joined the Air Force in the hopes of becoming an astronaut.

Orson Swindle is a former POW who communicated with the Air Force captain, known as "Al," for two years by tapping messages through the wall that separated them in the Son Tay prison camp outside Hanoi and who then spent several years with him inside Hao Lo prison, known as the Hanoi Hilton. He said Brudno had a reputation throughout the prison camps as a sharp wit, one who several times foiled his prison guards and subverted their attempts to use him as a propaganda tool.

Swindle, now a member of the Federal Trade Commission, said that unlike other prisoners of war who were released later, Brudno received no support when he returned to the United States. Brudno's suicide served as something of a wake-up call for many returning veterans and military support organizations, he said.

The military wasn't "prepared for what potentially deep, deep psychic wounds could come from that," Swindle said. "We were all caught up in the euphoria of being home. . . . So maybe we thought we could just finesse it for a while. Sadly, there wasn't anyone there to help."

Scruggs said that a plaque that will soon be added to the memorial is designed to honor all those whose premature deaths were a result of their service in Vietnam but who are not eligible for name recognition on the wall. He said the plaque intends to honor primarily those who died of cancer resulting from Agent Orange and from suicides induced by post-traumatic stress disorder. That's the place for Brudno to be honored, he said, not the memorial. He said that recognizing those who commit suicide might encourage suicide attempts by disturbed veterans hoping to stage a political protest. He said there have been three suicide attempts at the memorial, two successful.

Brudno's brother said he can't understand how anyone could believe that his brother's name would open the door to such gruesome possibilities. The effort to add the name to the memorial, he said, won't stop because of Scruggs's protestations.

namgrunt
03-06-04, 10:29 PM
This is a hard call. I'd say let the man's name be added, since he died so soon after coming home, but other considerations do color the decision. The suicide attempts at the wall itself will not help the case, thats for sure.

thedrifter
03-07-04, 05:10 PM
That one is gonna be a tuff one to decide.

I think these cases should be judged independently.

This was sent to me by email...

Sempers,

Roger





Rob Howarth, Staff Director
House Subcommittee on National Parks
Washington DC 20515

Dear Rob-

This letter concerns the decision by the Dept. of Defense to add a name of a post war suicide to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial (VVM) . We were informed of this decision yesterday. The man at issue is USAF Captain Edward Brudno. He took his life 120 days after his arrival home from Vietnam where he was a Prisoner of War. DOD says the cause of death is a direct result of severe combat related wounds, including psychological wounds, inflicted by the enemy.

We have the greatest sympathy for the family of Captain Brudno and the families of the estimated 20,000 to 180,000 Vietnam veterans who have taken their lives according to psychological literature. The new criteria for Mr. Brudno will force the Defense Department to a llow consideration of thousands of other suicides who would easily meet the new criteria.

The implications of this decision for The Wall are profound and disturbing. First, there is not enough room to accommodate the number of names who will now have legitimate claims to be engraved upon the Wall alongside the fallen. Further, engraving these names on The Mall has social and societal implications. Suicide is not an act which the Defense Department or the Federal Government should encourage through placing names of those who made this decision on our nation's Mall. We are unaware of any national military Memorial in the entire world which has the names of post war suicides included among the fallen. Besides our desire to protect the integrity of the Memorial, we desire to stop potential suicides on America's Mall by disturbed veterans desiring immortality through meeting the criteria and doing the act at The Wall itself. There have been two suicides and one attempted suicide at The Wall since 1982. Further, this decision has a profound historical and legislative implications, thereby changing the Memorial into an entity not intended by Congress in 1980. Congress approved a Memorial to honor those who served and to be engraved with the names of those who gave their lives in the combat zone. No one in Congress ever considered the idea of the Memorial becoming a place to honor post war suicides until there were hearings your Subcommitee in March 2000. The decision was to place the In Memory Plaque at The Memorial. No one gave consideration to adding these names to The Wall at the hearing.

BACKGROUND
Since 1982, various people have requested that names of veterans who died after the war be engraved on The Wall. We worked with DOD Casualty Affairs offices to develop a system to have medical personnel review individual cases. Last year, for example, we added six names to The Wall, all of whom died directly as the result of physical wounds received in the combat zone of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. A small number of people annually meet this standard. We get the official names from DOD and hire a contractor to do the engraving done each May.

CURRENT STATUS
A letter has been drafted to the VVMF from Assistant Secretary Raymond DuBois which is expected to be signed today. The National Park Service has taken an interest in this due to the detrimental impact the decision will have on The Wall and the sheer numbers of names - and the circumstances of their deaths - which will historically alter the Memorial.

REQUEST OF THE HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS
The VVMF requests a formal hearing on whether post war suicides of military veterans from the Vietnam War should be placed on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Until these hearings are held and the implications are reviewed by Congress our position is that no post war suicides should be included on The Wall. We also point out that in April 2004 VVMF will dedicate the In Memory Plaque at the Memorial which indeed recognizes all post war deaths which are not eligible for inscription on The Wall - including suicides of Vietnam Veterans. Testimony on the issue of suicide and the need to recognize suicide with the Plaque was given to your Subcommittee on March 14 2000 at a hearing Chaired by Congressman Hansen ( R UT). The idea was unanimously approved.

Thank you for your consideration of this matter.

Sincerely,


Jan Craig Scruggs, Esq.
Founder & President
Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund
1023 15th Street, NW, Suite 200
Washington, D.C. 20005

MillRatUSMC
03-07-04, 06:34 PM
OH, what a hard number to call!
Some names on the "Vietnam Memorial" wall are there dued to action by the enemy, some from equipment failure, some from misadventure, some from being murdered by other service personell, as stated some comitted suicide in Vietnam.
6 names were recently engraved on that memorial dued to them dying from wound inflicted in Vietnam.
Read recently that some names on the memorial are names veterans who are still living.
Now there's an appeal to add Captain Edward Brudno USAF to that memorial.
The founder of the Vietnam Memorial, thinks it will open the gates to many seeking names be added.
If this was to come about, we best think about adding more walls to the Vietnam Memorial.
Anyway, you look at it, it will be a hard number to call...

Semper Fidelis
Ricardo

greybeard
03-25-04, 02:20 AM
I believe it can be managed-case by case. This one is a unique case, involving a POW. Most of us can only imagine the hell he went thru-I personally can't even imagine it. I think he gave all he could in the service of his country, and his name deserves to be there as much as someone who died in something like a jeep wreck. They rountinely make determinatiions regarding who gets buried in Arlington National Cemetery-they can do the same thing here. Tho he actually took his last breath in the states, in all likelihood, he really died while a prisoner of war. just my 2 cents