Even more crap about this Jerk

[jfreas]

Special Dispatch - Iran/U.S. & the Middle East
February 12, 2004
No. 661

Iranian News Agency: Presidential Candidate John Kerry Sends Email Message

According to an article published in the Tehran Times, the office of U.S.
Senator and leading Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry sent an
email message to the Mehr News Agency. The following is the article as it
appeared in English:(1)

"The office of Senator John Kerry, the frontrunner in the Democratic
presidential primary in the U.S., sent the Mehr News Agency an email saying
that Kerry will try to repair the damage done by the incumbent president if
he wins the election. The text of the e-mail follows:

"'As Americans who have lived and worked extensively overseas, we have
personally witnessed the high regard with which people around the world have
historically viewed the United States. Sadly, we are also painfully aware of
how the actions and the attitudes demonstrated by the U.S. government over
the past three years have threatened the goodwill earned by presidents of
both parties over many decades and put many of our international
relationships at risk.

"'It is in the urgent interests of the people of the United States to
restore our country's credibility in the eyes of the world. America needs
the kind of leadership that will repair alliances with countries on every
continent that have been so damaged in the past few years, as well as build
new friendships and overcome tensions with others.

"'We are convinced that John Kerry is the candidate best qualified to meet
this challenge. Senator Kerry has the diplomatic skill and temperament as
well as a lifetime of accomplishments in [the] field of international
affairs. He believes that collaboration with other countries is crucial to
efforts to win the war on terror and make America safer.

"'An understanding of global affairs is essential in these times, and
central to this campaign. Kerry has the experience and the understanding
necessary to successfully restore the United States to its position of
respect within the community of nations. He has the judgment and vision
necessary to assure that the United States fulfills a leadership role in
meeting the challenges we face throughout the world.

"'The current Administration's policies of unilateralism and rejection of
important international initiatives, from the Kyoto Accords to the
Biological Weapons Convention, have alienated much of the world and
squandered remarkable reserves of support after 9/11. This climate of
hostility affects us all, but most especially impacts those who reside
overseas. Disappointment with current U.S. leadership is widespread,
extending not just to the corridors of power and politics, but to the man
and woman on the street as well.

"'We believe John Kerry is the Democrat who can go toe-to-toe against the
current Administration on national security and defense issues. We also
remain convinced that John Kerry has the best chance of beating the
incumbent in November, and putting America on a new course that will lead to
a safer, more secure, and more stable world.'"

Endnote:
(1) Tehran Times (Iran), February 8, 2004.

[txrona]

Isn't he the one that chickened out and left his crew in Vietnam, so that he could come home and be a war protester?

[jfreas]

Yep he's the one.

[garryh123]

I don't like Kerry or the liberals in Government, but this sounds like another internet hoax to me.

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by garryh123
I don't like Kerry or the liberals in Government, but this sounds like another internet hoax to me.

yep ya gotta wonder how many doctored pics, fake publications etc are showing up,, after all it is an election year

speaking of which,,, I hope they are giving voting classes in Florida:banana:

[TracGunny]

I hope they are giving voting classes in Florida Uh? weze duz jes fine hearin Floor-eye-dee, thanky very much:lick:

(yes, I can take a joke...you were joking, right?;) )

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by TracGunny
Uh? weze duz jes fine hearin Floor-eye-dee, thanky very much:lick:

(yes, I can take a joke...you were joking, right?;) )


well yeah kind of,,, but they do need to make sure the ballots are clear,,,,

of course,, I also think they need to do away with the electorial college too..:bunny:

[jfreas]

Right on txrona, he's the same one.

[GySgtRet]

Good One shewolf..

This is just a smear campaine I hope and not the truth?????..
TRACGunny...no pregnent chad this time???

Anyway, our commandr in chief is getting slammed and challenged I think that he is equal to the task without fail.

Semper Fidelis

[MAJMike]

You guys aren't really buying this are you?

If so, I've got some great swamp, ah, er..."beachfront" property that I'll sell ya' really cheap.

Come people, use your brain housing groups!!

BTW, all you GWB fans that are veterans, how do you feel about George W. cutiing the crap out of veterans bennies in the budget for next year?

[greensideout]

Originally posted by MAJMike
You guys aren't really buying this are you?

If so, I've got some great swamp, ah, er..."beachfront" property that I'll sell ya' really cheap.

Come people, use your brain housing groups!!

BTW, all you GWB fans that are veterans, how do you feel about George W. cutiing the crap out of veterans bennies in the budget for next year?

The only people in D.C. that can write a check are Congress. If the check is short, don't blame the President.

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by GySgtRet
Good One shewolf..

This is just a smear campaine I hope and not the truth?????..
TRACGunny...no pregnent chad this time???

Anyway, our commandr in chief is getting slammed and challenged I think that he is equal to the task without fail.

Semper Fidelis

for the record,, I did not say it was just a smear campaign and not the truth,, I only said that it COULD BE,, or that it could be a mixture of truth and fiction,,,, exaggeration, hype or it might even be the God's honest truth..... ;)

[TracGunny]

TRACGunny...no pregnent chad this time??? It wasn’t me, I have never even met her, I demand a paternity test!

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by greensideout


The only people in D.C. that can write a check are Congress. If the check is short, don't blame the President.

the leadership is supposedly the President,,,

however,, I did get a $2 raise again this year in my disability check................

[namgrunt]

Maj.Mike

I never joined the Corps just to get bennies. It doesn't make a difference if they had never legislated all the goodies which folks drool over. I would still have become a Marine.

As for upcoming leadership, I'd rather follow a man I'd seen get results, than follow a snowFLAKE, who changes his course with the slightest breeze. I'm for keeping GWB in the catbird seat.

Semper Fi!

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by namgrunt
Maj.Mike

I never joined the Corps just to get bennies. It doesn't make a difference if they had never legislated all the goodies which folks drool over. I would still have become a Marine.

Semper Fi!

well that's cool,, and when I joined the service it really wasn't for the bennies either,, however,, I deserve the bennies I earned and it irks me when they try to get out of giving them

[TracGunny]

Nor did I volunteer for benefits.

MAJMike, help me out here, please direct me to the information that shows President Bush cutting the crap out of our benefits.

SheWolf, and what benefits would those be?

Veterans: The President’s FY 2005 budget for VA medical care is over 40% larger than when he took office – enabling a million more patients to receive treatment. He has also implemented changes to ensure that veterans receive timely and quality medical care, shortened the time needed to process a veteran’s disability claims, and put VA on track to eliminate the waiting lists for veterans in need of medical care this year.

The President also signed into law two bills to support our veterans and their families.

H.R. 3365, the Military Family Tax Relief Act of 2003, provides tax relief and other benefits to members of the armed services and their families.

H.R. 1516, the National Cemetery Expansion Act of 2003 establishes, within four years, six new national cemeteries in southeastern Pennsylvania; Birmingham, Alabama; Jacksonville, Florida; Bakersfield, California; Greenville/Columbia, South Carolina; and, Sarasota, Florida.

President Bush has proposed record levels of support for America’s veterans. Since 2001, the President has increased VA healthcare funding by more than 30-percent, and the proposed FY 2004 budget is the largest annual discretionary increase for the Department of Veterans Affairs ever requested by a President.

Improving Access to Health Care for Veterans

President Bush has provided America's veterans with unprecedented medical care budget increases – more in his first two years in office than in the period from 1995-2000. Since 2001, the President has increased VA health care funding by more than 30-percent.

The President’s record requests have enabled VA to improve on its core medical mission to provide high-quality health care to veterans with service-related disabilities, with low incomes, and with special healthcare needs.

Under the President’s leadership, VA will care for 1.4 million more veterans in 2004 than in 2000, and has opened 194 new community-based clinics to be more responsive to veterans’ needs.
The Bush Administration took action last summer to provide medicine prescribed by private physicians to some veterans who had been waiting more than 30 days for an appointment.
The President’s FY 2004 budget will enable VA to eliminate the waiting list by summer 2004.

More Responsive to Veterans

Since 2001, the average time to process a disability claim has been reduced by 30 percent, and the inventory of disability claims has been reduced from a peak of 432,000 to 253,000. VA has also established special teams to focus on long-overdue cases and has already cut by half the number of cases pending for more than 6 months.

Under the Bush Administration, the Department of Defense and the VA have developed a proactive partnership to work together benefiting veterans, military beneficiaries, and taxpayers. The VA-DoD Joint Executive Council was formed to further improve quality and access for health care and to bring about a seamless transition for new veterans moving from military to civilian status.

Fulfilling our Nation’s Promise

Some 1,800 veterans die every day. Most of these are World War II and Korea veterans. The President’s budget supports fulfilling our Nation's promise to provide veterans with a dignified final resting place.

The families of veterans and military retirees have also made tremendous sacrifices. Surviving spouses, children, and some parents of veterans who are either killed in action or die of service-related causes may receive Dependency and Indemnity Compensation.

Dependents’ educational assistance is available to spouses who have not remarried and children of veterans who are either killed in action or die of service-related disabilities.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/veterans/

[SheWolf]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TracGunny
[B]Nor did I volunteer for benefits.

MAJMike, help me out here, please direct me to the information that shows President Bush cutting the crap out of our benefits.

SheWolf, and what benefits would those be?

well,,, I know the VA hospitals are still closing, and turning away Veterans.......

now the response is that they are turning them away only for non-service related conditions,,,

but some conditions can't be separated.....

[Sparrowhawk]

Originally posted by SheWolf


yep ya gotta wonder how many doctored pics, fake publications etc are showing up,, after all it is an election year

speaking of which,,, I hope they are giving voting classes in Florida:banana:

e-mail the Tehran Times?

IO did and the story is legit!

Here's their story just type in Kerry in the search section and you'll find yet another Kerry story, that I've posted below.

<hr>

http://www.tehrantimes.com/

<hr>

Date: Saturday, February 07, 2004
Senator kerry Would Seek Direct Talks With Iran: Adviser

WASHINGTON (IRNA) -- Democratic presidential hopeful John kerry will seek direct talks with Iran if he wins the White House, his foreign policy chief said Thursday.

Rand Beers, national security issues coordinator for the Massachusetts senator, was critical of President George W. Bush for shunning direct dialogue with Iran after branding it a member of an "axis of evil," dispatches indicated.

Speaking to a foreign policy forum, Beers said the question of nuclear non-proliferation was one of the most significant issues facing the world and Washington should press harder to advance negotiations.

Beers said kerry, currently leading the pack in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, sought more direct efforts to thaw relations with Iran that have been frozen since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

"John kerry is not saying that he is looking for better relations with Iran. He is looking for a dialogue with Iran," Beers said. "There are some issues on which we really need to sit down with the Iranians."

He listed the cultivation of opium poppies in neighboring Afghanistan as among the questions kerry would like to take up directly with Tehran.

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by Sparrowhawk


e-mail the Tehran Times?

IO did and the story is legit!

Date: Saturday, February 07, 2004
Senator kerry Would Seek Direct Talks With Iran: Adviser

WASHINGTON (IRNA) -- Democratic presidential hopeful John kerry will seek direct talks with Iran if he wins the White House, his foreign policy chief said Thursday.

He listed the cultivation of opium poppies in neighboring Afghanistan as among the questions kerry would like to take up directly with Tehran.

okay so he's wrong for wanting to talk,, or at least have a dialogue with Iran??? although I got a chuckle about him wanting to talk about poppies,,,,,

again,, I didn't say the stuff wasn't true,, just know how things get doctored up to fit some peoples ideas,,,

[MAJMike]

Well said, Sgt. namgrunt.

That's why we all fought, to preserve our right to diasagree (peacably) and to vote for whom we want.

We are all Americans and can make our own decisions because most of us on this forum have given time and effort to protect those rights.

Carry on.

[CAS3]

Originally posted by SheWolf


well that's cool,, and when I joined the service it really wasn't for the bennies either,, however,, I deserve the bennies I earned and it irks me when they try to get out of giving them
Hear we go again!
SheWolf, I have a few questions. In your profile, you state you are not a Marine. What are you getting benefits for from the VA. Benefits are for a medical illness or injury incurred in or aggravated by active service. How do you earn a benefit? You don't you are granted a benefits or eligible for a benefit.
The Department of Veterans Affairs has NEVER tried to take away anyones service connected disability benefits.

Since I had posted (in the VA forum)the fact that I have a copy of the independent budget and no one has requested to see it I am under the impression that you are all aware of how much money the DVA needs and how much was allocated.

also posted by shewolf...
well,,, I know the VA hospitals are still closing, and turning away Veterans.......

now the response is that they are turning them away only for non-service related conditions,,,

but some conditions can't be separated

It amazes me to see that people are under the impression that VA hospitals are closing. There is currently a proposal on going. It is called CARES and has not yet been implemented. Amazingly enough, you would only see a hard copy of which VAMC might be closing if you attended the meeting...which I did! There is nothing in circulation to prove that any hospitals are closing in the very near future. However, there are many clinics opening in order to expedite treatment for veterans.
Also, VA has had priority ratings for quite some time now. No veteran has ever been turned away from a VAMC. They may have to wait for a patient that has a more urgent problem but that is the same in ALL facilities.
As a service connected veteran, I have had no problems with VA treatment.
If you feel it is absolutely impossible to get to a VA hospital for a service connected injury or illness, you can be seen in a private hospital and notify VA within 48 hours for a claim for payment to be filed.

Listen people, I have said it a million times. Stop *****ing about it here...contact you congressmen and local politicians if you have a personal gripe. The only way to make change is to start on that level.

[MAJMike]

One question -

In an autocracy (oppposite of a democracy) do you really think that there is a newspaper called the "Tehran Times" and that they have an online edition?

And, the website ends in ".com" which is a westernized website suffix (ie. ".com" is basically used in the US and the western hemisphere. Each country has it's own "dot suffix" for websites - in France it's .fr, In germany it's .it Iran is .ir

There probably aren't 5 websites in all of Iran, and THIS AIN"T ONE OF 'EM!

Come on people, most of you are former Marine NCOs and Staff NCOs, you are smarter than this!

[SheWolf]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CAS3
[B]
Hear we go again!
SheWolf, I have a few questions. In your profile, you state you are not a Marine. What are you getting benefits for from the VA. Benefits are for a medical illness or injury incurred in or aggravated by active service. How do you earn a benefit? You don't you are granted a benefits or eligible for a benefit.



you are correct CAS3 ,, I am not a Marine,, I am, however, a retired Veteran receiving disabilty compensation for a service related injury...... I come to this forum for support because my son is a Marine,,, soon to be on his second tour in Iraq...

we can play semantics about whether a benefit is earned, granted or eligible,,, when I enlisted,, I enlisted under the Vietnam Era GI Bill,,, that I earned because I fullfilled my contract, so I earned them,,,

I have my VA card for my service related injury,,, which,,, thankfully I haven't had to have looked at,, it's really a small thing,,, but I earned it,, or was granted it and am eligible for it....

[MAJMike]

Just who is Rand Beers?

A quick "google" shows that he is a former Marine officer and rifle platoon commander in Viet Nam:

Rand Beers, Adjunct Lecturer in Public Policy at harvard University, is a retired senior civil servant with 35 years of service.* He began as a Marine officer and rifle company commander in Vietnam (1964-1968).* He entered the Foreign Service in 1971 and transferred to the Civil Service in 1983. *During most of his career he served in the State Department's Bureau of Politico-Military Affairs, including as Office Director and Deputy Assistant Secretary for regional affairs focusing on the Middle East and Persian Gulf.* He was Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs (1998-2002).* He also served in four positions on the NSC Staff at the White House during four Administrations.* His functions included Director for Counter-terrorism and Counter-narcotics, Director for Peacekeeping, and Senior Director for Intelligence Programs (1988-98).* His final government position was as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Combating Terrorism on the NSC Staff (2002-2003).* He resigned in March 2003 and retired in April.* He began work on John Kerry's Presidential campaign in May 2003 as National Security/Homeland Security Issue Coordinator.
-----

Knock him if you will, he's one of our own.

[TracGunny]

Originally posted by SheWolf
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TracGunny
[B]Nor did I volunteer for benefits.

MAJMike, help me out here, please direct me to the information that shows President Bush cutting the crap out of our benefits.

SheWolf, and what benefits would those be?

well,,, I know the VA hospitals are still closing, and turning away Veterans.......

now the response is that they are turning them away only for non-service related conditions,,,

but some conditions can't be separated.....

Which takes me back to my original question...

[SheWolf]

[Originally posted by TracGunny [/i]
[B]

Which takes me back to my original question...

:no: oops I think I forgot your question....

senior moment.........:confused:

[usmc4669]

SheWolf:
yep ya gotta wonder how many doctored pics, fake publications etc are showing up,, after all it is an election year

Have you seen the new one of President Bush with his arm draped over the shoulder of some woman with his hand on her breast? Yes it sure is an election year.

[TracGunny]

SheWolf: No problem, I've been having those "moments" since... since... what were we talking about?

Seriously, you mentioned vanishing, or the possibility of vanishing Veterans benefits. I was curious as to what benefits you were refering to... they could affect me.

[greensideout]

I think the discussion was , "crap about this Jerk".

If there is a good reason to vote this guy in as President, I would like to hear it.

[usmc4669]

SheWolf:
article in the VFW Magazine this month about cutting back on VA hospitals and the reason for it. If you can get a coppy read it, will expain a lot of reasons that most of cannot.


MAJMike:
How in the hell did you ever make Maj? All you have to do is type in Tehran Times in your search engine and bingo up somes Tehram times.com try it Maj.

[usmc4669]

greensideout:

Can't you see what they are trying to do? Change the subject. It's hurting Sen. John F. Kerry, telling the truth about him, we are just getting started, before we are through he will run and hide his ass.

I don't think that President George W. Bush has done a great job, still it's a lot better than the likes of Sen. Kerry could do.

[TracGunny]

Originally posted by greensideout
I think the discussion was , "crap about this Jerk".

If there is a good reason to vote this guy in as President, I would like to hear it. ...amazing how topics of posts can branch off from the original thread... guess I'm guilty of that.

I, too, am waiting for a convincing argument that Sen. Kerry deserves my vote...

[usmc4669]

Tehran Times is a Tehran-based English daily newspaper.
(ISSN:1024-6053)

Telephone: +(9821) 8800293
Fax: +(9821) 8808214
Telex: 213662 TTIM IR
Address: 32 Kouche Bimeh, Nejatollahi Ave.,
Tehran, Iran

[TracGunny]

usmc4669: I may have fallen victim to a ploy to divert the subject off of Sen. Kerry, but it certainly wasn't because I wished to protect the senator. I was responding to a preceived attack on the current Administration.

You and greensideout are right, though, the "spoiling attack" did draw my fire off target...

[usmc4669]

TracGunny:

We all do that, now back to "crap about this Jerk". He still haven't proven to me that he is the right one to be President, Joe Lieberman would have been a much better choice in my book, the liberials though he was to much in the middle. The new thing about Kerry is his affair with an intern. This was from Matt Drudge.

[greensideout]

You got'a watch 'em---they have been trained to do just that, lead the subject in a new direction.

Kerry will do anything for Kerry as his past has shown.

Makes me wonder---what will Kerry do with America for Kerry?

[ivalis]

RESULTS! that's a knee slapper.

[usmc4669]

Sen. John Kerry intervened to keep open a loophole that had let a major insurer divert millions of federal dollars from the nation's most expensive construction project, then received tens of thousands of dollars from the company in the next two years, documents show.
American International Group (AIG) paid Mr. Kerry's way on a trip to Vermont and donated at least $30,000 to a tax-exempt group that Mr. Kerry had used to set up his presidential campaign. Company executives also donated $18,000 to his Senate and presidential campaigns, according to records obtained by the Associated Press.
But Mr. Kerry, the current leader of the Democratic presidential race, said there was no connection between his actions in 2000 and the donations in 2001 and 2002.




AP is reporting that at least three times in his Senate career, John Kerry pushed nominees for federal home loan bank positions who had donated money to his campaign. AP has also found a link between campaign contributions from insurer American International Group and Kerry's fight to preserve a profitable insurance funding loophole in the federally financed "Big Dig" project in Boston.

So that's what people mean by "electable"!

Why does he keep marrying these heiresses if selling influence is so profitable? Guess that kitesurfing equipment must really cost a lot.

[usmc4669]

From the Matt Drudge Web Site.

Kerry faces big test in internet storm about mystery woman
By Alec Russell and David Rennie in Washington
(Filed: 13/02/2004)


The campaign of Senator John Kerry, the frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, faced its first media storm last night after a Right-wing website alleged that he had asked a woman to leave the country for personal reasons.

Mr Kerry's campaign did not respond to the allegation on the Drudge Report, a news tipster, most famous for disclosing that Bill Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky, a White House intern. When contacted, the Kerry campaign had no immediate comment.

[jfreas]

This is the Drudge page. www.drudgereport.com. Very interesting if true.

[jfreas]

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in
front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge

wall of clocks behind him. He asked, "What are all

those clocks?"

> >

> > St. Peter answered, "Those are Lie-Clocks.

Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie

the hands on your clock will move."

> >

> > "Oh," said the man, "whose clock is that?"

> >

> > "That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never

moved, indicating that she never told a lie."

> >

> > "Incredible," said the man. "And whose clock is

that one?"

> >

> > St. Peter responded, "That's Abraham Lincoln's

clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe

told only two lies in his entire life."

> >

> > "Where's John Kerry's clock?" asked the man.

> >

Kerry's clock is in Jesus' office. He's using it

as a ceiling fan."

[greensideout]

Originally posted by ivalis
RESULTS! that's a knee slapper.

Considering his voteing record, his passion for the UN to control our Armed Forces and his disrespect for fellow Vietnam Vets, tell me why I should vote for him to become the President of this great country?

[namgrunt]

Aha! Meat and Potatoes!!
Thanks Gunny 4669.
Gunny Jfreas, loved that image of the ceiling fan in Jesus' office.


Ivalis
I rescind my offer to converse. Hasta la Vista, baby!

[yellowwing]

The Tehran Times did censor the last parapgraphs of that news piece...[Rand Beers continues]..."It`s a realistic sitting down and having the kinds of discussions that we`re just not having because this administration is so tied in its own ideological views of Iran and waiting for the Iranian regime to collapse."

He said Kerry would want to work with a "broad range of countries" to stem the traffic in materials that could fall into the wrong hands and help make nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

"We`re going to have look at international (non-proliferation) regimes that currently exist and probably go through some revisions of those regimes in order to find a way to approach and address."

No way the Tehran Times was going to publish those last 3 paragraphs.

And did you folks also believe every word that Pravda put out during the cold war?

As far as the email - "We also remain convinced that John kerry has the best chance of beating the incumbent in November, and putting America on a new course that will lead to a safer, more secure, and more stable world." - how is that unpatriotic and un-Presidential?

The Kerry campaign is not designed to change the vote of G.W. Bush supporters. That would be a waste of resources. Its the 'undecided' vote that every party is spending tens of millions to convince.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a GW Bush loss, not exactly a Kerry victory. The CIA got biotch slapped over the WMD assessments. Nearer to election time, I predict there will be leaks pointing to an Administrative scandal. If GW's spin crew drops the ball, Kerry is in.