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thedrifter
01-31-04, 07:39 AM
MARFOREUR remembers the 'Irish Marines' of WWII
Submitted by: Marine Forces Europe
Story Identification Number: 20041304630
Story by Sgt. Michael Hjelmstad



LONDONDERRY, Northern Ireland(January 28, 2004) -- In 1942 United States Marines forged a relationship with a Northern Ireland community so strong it remains to this day.

The Marines who came here in 1942 experienced a contrast to the events of World War II that were occurring elsewhere. That exceedingly pleasant atmosphere and genuine hospitality of these people toward Marines still exists today.

Recently approximately 40 Marines from Marine Corps Forces Europe experienced the friendliness that is legendary of this region. The Marines participated in a professional military education event that taught them the history and culture of this region.

“This is a tangible way of showing Marines that you can become fully accepted in a foreign community, even in a time of crisis,” said Col. Brendan Kearney, Chief of Staff, MARFOREUR. “The impact on the Derry community is a testament to the World War II Marines who came with an open minded approach to life.”

The ‘Irish Marines’ of World War II were part of the 1st Provisional Marine Battalion that landed in Northern Ireland on May 12, 1942. These Marines spent two years guarding the Naval Operations Base that was vital to the Battle of the Atlantic. In that time the Marines became an important part of the community. They hosted children’s parties and barbecues, put on boxing exhibitions with local champions, and even started the Marine Corps Pipes and Drums Band after being challenged that Marines couldn’t play the bagpipes.


These Marines made a very positive impact on the city of Derry. One child who lived near the camp was particularly impressed and enjoyed his time with the Marines. He learned to play baseball, and the Marines gave him candy. This young boy also saw that the Marines were able to see beyond politics and work together. That young boy was John Hume, and he grew up to become co-recipient of the 1998 Nobel Peace Prize for his pivotal role in ending decades of violence in Northern Ireland. He is now a member of both the Westminster and European Parliaments.

Hume played a big role in the PME, this time himself teaching the importance of acceptance and diversity to the Marines.

“We are building our links with America very strongly,” said Hume. “Since modern technology has made it a smaller world, we are in a stronger position to work together.”

“There’s no better friend, no worse enemy than a United States Marine. That type of philosophy has been with us since our inception.” said Sgt. Joseph Forbes, who attended the PME. “It was with us in WWII. It impressed and inspired a great many people at that time, to include Nobel Peace Prize winner John Hume. Although Derry has seen three to four generations since WWII, this youngest group continues to cherish and embrace the spirit of the Marine Corps. Sixty years later they still know who we are, and they love us. Makes you feel good to be a Marine, doesn’t it?”

“The information obtained was overwhelming,” said Staff Sgt. Jeffery Lamey. “A Nobel Peace Prize recipient was inspired by U.S. Marines stationed here. I learned from him that the impact of the teamwork and comradery of the Marines helped him to bring the people of Northern Ireland to peace.”

Author and filmmaker, Dr. Mary Pat Kelly recognized the strong ties of this community to the Marine Corps. Through her efforts along with the O’Kane/Donnely family of the Beach Hill Country House Hotel, former site of the Marine Corps Headquarters, interest has grown in restoring this connection.

“The relationship with the people here is very positive and very genuine,” said Gunnery Sgt. Juan Allen. “You really feel like the relationship is growing. We were welcomed with warm hospitality by all the people, I felt very comfortable there.”

Allen chose Derry as the place to perform his re-enlistment along with Sgt. Major Carlton Kent, Sgt. Major MARFOREUR.

“It was something very special to not only be on this historic ground, but to be piped in to a re-enlistment in Derry Ireland. Not a lot of people get to experience something like that.” said Gunnery Sgt. Juan Allen.

“I am truly touched being able to stand on these grounds,” said Kent. “I wish every Marine could experience this.”

In 1997 the Hon. John H. Dalton, Secretary of the Navy, dedicated a monument to the 1st Provisional Marine Battalion, and the Beech Hill US Navy-Marine Corps Friendship Association was formed and the Hon. John Hume was named Chairman.

“You may no longer hear the strains of bagpipes being played by American Marines at the Beech Hill Headquarters,” said Dalton at the dedication ceremony. “You may no longer hear the sound of young Marines teaching the children of Derry how to play baseball in their off-duty hours. But the sound of their time here, and what they gained, echoes for all time.”

Since the dedication, an annual ceremony has been held for those who embody the spirit of friendship shared by the Marines and the people of the community during the war. This year the Marines involved in the PME participated in a wreath laying ceremony that honored the WWII Marines.

“I really enjoyed the closing ceremony,” said Kearney. “All in uniform, wearing service alphas, which are very similar to the uniform of the WWII Marines. It really evidenced the linkage between what we did here and what went on 60 years ago. This was a great experience Socially it was a good time, but it was also a time of listening and learning.”

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/image1.nsf/Lookup/20041305914/$file/wreathLR.jpg

Marines from Marine Corps Forces Europe took part in what has become an cerimony at the Beech Hill Country House Hotel in Londonderry, Northern Irelnd. The event is held to honor the spirit of friendship shared by U.S. Marines and the people of the community since WWII. Photo by: Sgt. Michael Hjelmstad

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/main5/807D79F58EEE228885256E2B003208C0?opendocument


Sempers,

Roger
:marine:

China Mar
12-08-11, 01:06 PM
I am one of the Marines of Derry. The cover on the book I wrote is of me standing on the Derry wall with the Derry Guild Hall in the background. it was taken about November of 1942 as I recall. There are not many of us left to tell the story of that time. It was the best time of my young life. Wish I could visit there once before I die. Howard Terry, 413670. Div6f229@aol.com

WW2Jeep
01-03-12, 03:45 PM
Thank you for this post.
I was unaware of the USMC presence in North Ireland.

I am a WWII Jeep restorer and historian.
Would anyone have any photos or recollections of the Jeeps used in Derry?
I would love to see them and hear the stories, and archive them for future generations.
Please contact me if you do.

Thanks,
Brian

China Mar
01-04-12, 09:30 AM
I was a member of the only bagpipe band the Corps ever had in 1942 or '43 I remember John Hume as a little boy coming on the post at Springtown near Derry with his little dog. I would give him candy from the P.X. at times and an orange also, that was things none of the people could get there at that time.I never knew he would become as famious as he did. I know he would remember me and the other Marines of that time in his young life. The Noble Piece Prize WOW! As I have said before I wrote of some of my experiences in the book I wrote www.terribleterry.net (http://www.terribleterry.net) click on onit and read the reviews and excerpt.Any If there should be any questions I will try to answer them. Oh I remember One of our Jeep drivers was called Crash Cronan, spelling is subspect.

Ray Merrell
01-04-12, 09:48 AM
Brian, In answer to your post (that I didn't find here)...I was a foot Marine, but jeeps played a big part in WWII. They carried a lot of Lts', Captains and Generals to where ever they had to go. They also pulled a lot of vehicles out ot the mud on Bougainville and Okinawa. Glad you got to visit "Our Town" of Liberty, it was a small town when we moved here. Only one stop light then - now look at it!

Gung Ho,
Ray

WW2Jeep
01-04-12, 11:29 AM
To China Mar:
Would you happen to recall if the jeeps used in Derry were outfitted with the special UK blackout headlights? I know that at the time it wasn't something you probably made a note to remember, but I am trying to determine how far out the special issue lights were used. The USA used a fender mounted blackout light (factory issue after mid-1942), but the Brits wanted ALL headlights to be blackout lights, so there were larger headlight sized B.O. lights made and distributed to units stationed in the UK prior to D-Day.

These lights would be painted black or OD, and have a 'baseball cap' like metal hood over most of the glass/mirror section only allowing a sliver of light out... just as the normal B.O. lights would, and still do.

Here is a photo of the special B.O. headlight used on a British Airborne jeep in WWII.
http://wwiijeepparts.com/WW2/Photos/WorldWarTwoMBGPWPhotographs/JeepBritishAirborne.jpg

Does this light look at all familiar?

Thank you for your service
Brian

WW2Jeep
01-04-12, 11:50 AM
To Ray:
Speaking of the mud, and vehicles being stuck in the mud on Bougainville and Okinawa...
Here is an original USMC photo to bring back few memories.

Click on the thumbnail to enlarge the photo

http://wwiijeepparts.com/WW2/Photos/WorldWarTwoMBGPWPhotographs/OkinawaMarineCorpsJeepTN.jpg (http://wwiijeepparts.com/WW2/Photos/WorldWarTwoMBGPWPhotographs/OkinawaMarineCorpsJeep.jpg)

US Marine Corps Ambulance Jeep stuck in mud on Okinawa


gawd that looks miserable! Even the Cletrac dozer is mired down in it.


Re: Liberty.
Had a great time there. The Mercantile was excellent. Nice to see some Civil War stuff for sale. We toured through the old town section enjoying all the Victorian Houses. Awesome! I'll be heading back there again next near and look forward to it. Maybe you can recommend a good antique store or Trade Days swapmeet for finding WWII militaria in your area.

Thank you for your service,
Brian

China Mar
01-04-12, 11:58 AM
All vehicles I saw including ours. Weapons Carriers Jeeps and all had slits in front of the lens.That is as I remember. Howard Terry Ser#413670 7/15/42 to 7/15/46 Ulster and the battle for Okinawa.

WW2Jeep
01-04-12, 12:20 PM
Howard,
Thank you for the response.
Many newly minted jeep historians don't know as much as they think they do...
The history books generally imply that the US used only GI equipment... some do mention the British B.O. lights, but imply they were only used in London and other big cities close to the action during the Blitz / Battle of Britain.

Your statements back up what other US servicemen have told me over the 30 years I've been researching and asking questions.

But Derry is by far the farthest away I have heard of them being used.
Thank you for that bit of info! It is very helpful.

Would you happen to have an period photos with a jeep in the background?

I am compiling an archive collection of WWII vintage photos of jeeps.
I am short of USMC jeeps and would like to add more.

best regards,
Brian

China Mar
01-04-12, 12:33 PM
I don't have any photo's of a Jeep but I recorded an instance in the book I wrote about me being the only Marine in the E.T.O that had fired at a German bomber. while on guard duty at an Ammo. dump. When we arrived at Belfast in the fall of '42 the train station was blowed all to hell but the trains were still running. . I know you are not interested in this crap but just in case you might be I have let you know of it.

WW2Jeep
01-04-12, 12:47 PM
ohh no, I am interested in your story. I love this stuff.
That's a cool thing, your firing on the German bomber. <tipping my hat to you>
I am named after my grandfather who was a sharpshooter in WWI. The story I requested his retelling of the most was of the day the Red Baron flew over the trenches and he and everyone else took potshots at him (to no avail of course).
He lived history, as did you.
Thanks,
Brian

China Mar
01-04-12, 03:45 PM
You are mighty welcome Brian, www.terribleterry.net (http://www.terribleterry.net)

Ray Merrell
01-05-12, 05:33 AM
by Rita-Jo Mitchell in "A Keepsake of the Past"

It did everything, went everywhere, was as faithful as a dog, as strong as a mule and as agile as a goat. It carried twice what it was designed for and still kept going.

So said war correspondent Ernie Pyle in 1943 about the little open-top, four-seater vehicle that, according to Army Chief of Staff General George C. Marshall became "the country's most important contribution" to World War II.

Two years before Pearl Harbor, the Army saw the need to put its foot soldiers on wheels. Mules were impractical. Trucks got stuck and stuck out and motorcycles afforded no protection or hauling capability. The answer was a light-weight, low-to-the-ground vehicle with four wheel drive and a powerful engine.

The American Bantam Company submitted the design that won Army approval. Actually manufacturing the Jeeps were Ford and Willys-Overland. Costing $900 each, over 600,000 were built.

What rolled off the asembly lines was an 11 foot long barebones workhorse that weighed 2,100 pounds. It had no doors, no rear fenders and a hand run windshield wiper. A canvas awning and isinglass side curtains gave cover during monsoons or snowstorms. The seats rode like park benches and it was widely rumored that there were no springs at all. In motion, it behaved like a bucking bronco.

But, with its four wheel drive and 60 horsepower Willys engine, the Jeep conquered mud, snow, jungle, hills and ditches. A U.S. senator drove one up the capitol steps to prove its climbing ability. All this and slots for carrying an axe and shovel, too!

Jeeps were sometimes shipped disassembled into battle areas or dropped from gliders. Some came with snorkels for fording rivers. They carried the wounded, mail, generals, even President Roosevelt on his North Africa visit.

Jeep engines heated water for bathing, served as altars for poker tables, provided power for searchlights, hospital generators and washing machines. Legend has it that they could run on cognac or vodka if the gas gave out.

Stealing Jeeps became the most committed crime of the war. There were no keys, only an on/off switch. None were sacrosanct. Military police vehicles were whisked away as was the personal Jeep of General Jimmy Doolittle. Wary drivers removed the distributor rotor and carried it in their pocket, but some Jeep bandits brought their own rotors.

The Jeep's tires might have been a bit noisy, its hand brake virtually unworkable and it did tend to tip over in tight turns, yet its fame and versatility were soon legendary. One Jeep was even awarded the Purple Heart after being shot up twice. Another, named Jessica, starred in a movie featuring Martha Raye and Phil Silvers.

The Jeep even had a bit of mystery regarding its name. Most accepted the notion that the word Jeep came from its technical designation: Ford Model G-P (general purpose.) But, some insist, among them GI's, that the name came from a pre-war character in the Popeye comic strip named Eugene the Jeep. This squat, dog-like little creature bounced up and down, lived on orchids and could go anywhere, even becoming invisible. It was also almost indestrucible. Not a bad likeness to Americas Jeep.