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Eric Hood
11-22-13, 03:10 PM
I have a question about our emblem. The seven horizontal lines do represent the seven continents? I know ; the Eagle represents America, the globe is our world wide deployment capability and the anchor is the naval traditions.
Semper Fi,
Eric

ChuckH
11-22-13, 04:26 PM
This came right off of the Marine Corps web site.
EAGLE, GLOBE AND ANCHOR
There is no better symbol for the purpose we serve than the emblem every Marine earns: the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. The eagle represents the proud nation we defend. It stands at the ready with our coastlines in sight and the entire world within reach of its outstretched wings. The globe represents our worldwide presence. The anchor points both to the Marine Corps' naval heritage and its ability to access any coastline in the world. Together, the eagle, globe and anchor symbolize our commitment to defend our nation—in the air, on land and at sea.


The Eagle, Globe and Anchor emblem has been part of the Marine uniform since 1868 and became the official emblem of the Marine Corps in 1955.

Rocky C
11-22-13, 04:53 PM
Correct Eric, the 7 lines represent the 7 continents and of course the Globe represents our World Wide Service.

Good question Brother. Many do not know about the 7 lines.

Eric Hood
11-22-13, 07:30 PM
Rocky, thanks. I felt like a boot posing this questions. Just goes to show me, never to old to learn about our Corps.
Semper Fi,
Eric

m14ed
11-23-13, 03:23 AM
Correct Eric, the ((( 7 lines represent the 7 continents and of course the Globe represents our World Wide Service. )))

Good question Brother. Many do not know about the 7 lines.



Hey Rock,,,,
where'd you come up with that skinny ?

ChuckH
11-23-13, 07:13 AM
I have never heard that before...
There is nothing that I found on the net about the 7 lines. I do know there used to be vertical lines but they stopped making them and only added the horizontal lines...

Rocky C
11-23-13, 07:32 AM
You Marines never heard of the 7 lines and the Globe before ?
Neither did I.
I heard that years ago at a DAV meeting with a bunch of Jarheads.

I guess it's just me, Eric and a few old timers then that heard that.

Good info/trivia to look up Chuck.

Eric Hood
11-23-13, 07:50 AM
OHH-RAH! Thanks again,
Semper Fi,
Eric

hbharrison
11-23-13, 12:40 PM
I looked up about this once before and fond that what has been said is ture and correct with one thing left out. That the anchor is for navel service but with the rope is fowled in the anchor means that we are not seaman. Check with serveral Navel people and they all said the same thing.

Eric Hood
11-23-13, 01:39 PM
That I never knew. Thanks.
Eric

Rocky C
11-23-13, 04:47 PM
Good One Butch :thumbup:.

Here's one for you all. What is the differance between the Service Uniform Officers Insignia and the Enlisted Marines Insignia ( EGA ) and why ?

crazymjb
11-23-13, 04:53 PM
Just realized my moto-tat has 6 lines (variation on the EGA I got as a young boot leave moron with little thought, though otherwise it came out well)... oh well.

Mike

Rocky C
11-23-13, 04:58 PM
Hahahahaha !!! Everyone will be checking tats now that views this thread Mike.

SGT7477
11-23-13, 07:41 PM
I got 7 on all of mine with the shading lightly covering some,lol, Semper Fidelis.

hbharrison
11-23-13, 08:32 PM
Well I know the dif on EGA officer and enlisted but not the why part. Officers are Gold and Silver enlisted is all gold.

ChuckH
11-24-13, 01:54 AM
On the officers emblem there isn't a Cuba, only on enlisted...
There were no officers involved with Cuba....
or so legend goes...

Rocky C
11-24-13, 09:10 AM
:thumbup: Spot on Chuck !!!.

The officer's insignia lacks the island of Cuba. Marine Corps lore later attributed this to the fact that there were no Marine Corps officers involved in the attack on Cuba known as the "Bay of Pigs" therefore they are not recognized as being part of that campaign and do not rate it on their uniform.


The Flat Black Service Uniforms for officers and enlisted were originally identical. However, the "Bay of Pigs" lore persisted and a separate black officer's emblem for the Service Uniform was eventually created.

Eric Hood
11-24-13, 09:18 AM
Thanks Marines! I never thought to learn this much about the Eagle, The Globe and the Anchor.
Semper Fi,
Eric

Rocky C
11-24-13, 09:19 AM
I love these kinds of threads Eric.

Thanks Brother !!!

hbharrison
11-24-13, 09:12 PM
See Eric even Rocky and ChuckH, who are both older than dirt can remmeber these things. YUK YUK:beer:

ChuckH
11-25-13, 05:54 AM
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Quinbo
11-25-13, 09:02 AM
The enlisted EGA is cast as a single piece as it all the same color. The officers EGA is cast in two parts and then assembled. Cuba is not on the officers because of the relative size and complete separation from the North American continent.

In short it is too small and would have to be a third piece.

madsox
11-25-13, 10:25 AM
First - this is a great thread, I never thought I'd learn so many more little things about the EGA!

Second, it sounds like Quinbo may be right about the real reason the insignia are different. It just sounds practical and all that.
:(

But I love the stories! If something doesn't have a good sea story to go with it, we should have one
:)

Anyway, neither here nor there...

Semper Fi!

ChuckH
11-25-13, 10:41 AM
Design and symbolism

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Officer_EGA.png/100px-Officer_EGA.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Officer_EGA.png) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Enlisted_GlobeAnchor.jpg/100px-Enlisted_GlobeAnchor.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Enlisted_GlobeAnchor.jpg)


Eagle, Globe, and Anchor for the dress uniform: officer (left) & enlisted (right)


The emblem recommended by the 1868 board consisted of a globe (showing the continents of the Western Hemisphere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere)) intersected by a fouled anchor, and surmounted by a spread eagle.

On the emblem itself, there is a ribbon, clasped in the eagle's beak, bearing the Latin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin) motto "Semper Fidelis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semper_Fidelis)" (Always Faithful). The uniform insignias omit the motto ribbon.

The general design of the emblem was probably derived from the Royal Marines' "Globe and Laurel."[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle,_Globe,_and_Anchor#cite_note-EGA_tecom-3)

The globe on the U.S. Marine emblem signifies the Corps' readiness to service in any part of the world.

The eagle represents the United States.

The anchor, which dates back to the founding of the Corps in 1775, acknowledges the Naval tradition of the marines and their continual service within the Department of the Navy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_the_Navy).

There are some differences between the uniform insignia for enlisted Marines and that of officers:

The Enlisted Marines' Dress Blue uniform insignia is die-struck from a single sheet of brass and annodized a gold color.
The Service Uniform insignia is coated a flat black color.

The officers' insignia is assembled from four parts: a die-struck silver colored globe with eagle, and gold colored anchor with silver colored fouling rope, and gold colored continents.

Due to the more complicated production process, the officer's insignia lacks the island of Cuba.

Marine Corps lore later attributed this to the fact that there were no Marine Corps officers involved in the attack on Cuba known as the "Bay of Pigs" therefore they are not recognized as being part of that campaign and do not rate it on their uniform.

The Flat Black Service Uniforms for officers and enlisted were originally identical.

However, the "Bay of Pigs" lore persisted and a separate black officer's emblem for the Service Uniform was eventually created.

Rocky C
11-25-13, 04:58 PM
Quinbo, the Officers Insignia is indeed assembled from 4 parts.

I'm sticking with the " Bay of Pigs " Lore...

crazymjb
11-25-13, 07:20 PM
Rechecked in the mirror, false alarm.

Mike

Quinbo
11-25-13, 09:28 PM
I was close ... hee he. Memory aint what it used to be. I stand corrected; it is cast in 4 parts. Often times we put some sort of meaning to something that was otherwise created to be aesthetically pleasing.
Was the dog chain intentionally made with the exact number of beads to use it as a calendar? If so then you could randomly select a dog tag chain and ever single large would have 365 beads and small would have 52.

m14ed
11-26-13, 03:14 AM
I've got a couple of these around from "OLD TIMERS"
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/8/2/8/7/4/webimg/716923702_o.jpg

Lefts, and rights....Screw backs...

advanced
11-26-13, 06:04 AM
Y'all have our history all wrong. My DI's, who would never lie, taught us the following;

The army gave us the eagle,
The navy gave us the anchor, and
We took the world!

gunnyhje
11-26-13, 09:04 AM
Also if you look close you will see ( even on your ID card) that there is a dot on the
upper point of the anchor do you now why ???
clue 1868 ...

03GyRene
11-26-13, 10:05 AM
Some pretty good scoop here regarding the emblem (from History and Musems Division, HQMC): I hope this link works :nerd:http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CEgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.marines.mil%2Fnews%2Fpu blications%2FDocuments%2FTHE%2520EAGLE%2C%2520GLOB E%2C%2520AND%2520ANCHOR%25201868-1968%2520%2520PCN%252019000319900_1.pdf&ei=lsSUUouqEYvjoATTtYCQDA&usg=AFQjCNG2DEAH0cLTp3scIotki9ErLcZVVg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CEgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcommunity.marines.mil%2Fnews%2Fpu blications%2FDocuments%2FTHE%2520EAGLE%2C%2520GLOB E%2C%2520AND%2520ANCHOR%25201868-1968%2520%2520PCN%252019000319900_1.pdf&ei=lsSUUouqEYvjoATTtYCQDA&usg=AFQjCNG2DEAH0cLTp3scIotki9ErLcZVVg)

Rocky C
11-26-13, 10:30 AM
Also if you look close you will see ( even on your ID card) that there is a dot on the
upper point of the anchor do you now why ???
clue 1868 ...

The dot on the uppermost point of the anchor as you look at the insignia always shows " True North ".

gunnyhje
11-26-13, 03:23 PM
Pant legs pulled up...In 1968 Gen J.Zeilin had all his choices hanging on the
bulkhead, they were held up by bolts when he choose it the artist drew it with the
bolt. They kept it for it was already cast. only anchor I the world with a hole in it.
Semper FI

gunnyhje
11-26-13, 03:24 PM
1868 ,fingers to old to hit the keys

Rocky C
11-26-13, 03:45 PM
Are you sure ???

m14ed
11-27-13, 05:35 AM
Pant legs pulled up...


[QUOTE=gunnyhje;934841]

Also if you look close you will see ( even on your ID card) that there is a dot on the
upper point of the anchor do you now why ???
clue *(((1868))) ...



Pant legs pulled up...

In (((( 1968 ))))Gen J.Zeilin had all his choices
hanging on the bulkhead,
they were held up by bolts when he choose it

the artist drew it with the bolt.

They kept it for it was already cast.
only anchor I the world with a hole in it.

Semper FI
http://e-militaria.com/catalog/usa_pre_ww2/zz_usmc_ega/a1.jpg
http://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/chinaguadmustusmcgroupegaobv.jpg
http://www.flyingtigerantiques.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/chinaguadmustusmcgroupcllinsobv.jpg


Guess it depends on what "ega" you look at to find the
"Bolt"/blip/blivet ????
not even going to say why or how it came into existence .

***Dawn breaks over Marblehead
didn't see the date in your answer...

gawfaw...1968'

MY gear didn't have the "HOLE"

smj5546
11-27-13, 12:00 PM
On the seal, the flukes are "bolted" onto the anchor. One faces front and one (the bottom one) faces rear.

m14ed
11-28-13, 04:14 AM
On the seal,

the flukes are "bolted" onto the anchor.

One faces front
and one (the bottom one) faces rear.




http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4970747221052639&pid=15.1&H=155&W=160http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4626797684328754&pid=15.1&H=120&W=160http://www.tattooartists.org/Images/FullSize/000192000/Img192684_ega.jpg

Couldn't have said it better..

BUT - you don't find it EYEBALLING our brass....
"Phrasing" the question was all important ....
i'm just quibbling about the answer.....

foxman
11-28-13, 07:19 PM
The Army donated The eagle, The Navy donated The Anchor but By Granny, "We" Took The World..... Semper Fi

batw
11-29-13, 04:53 PM
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well i really don't want to brag too much.....bull i am gonna brag my oldest son made this for me this past memorial day.he said he was proud of what i did, really bowled me over... with a jewelers loupe you can read the inscription on the ribbon plain as day..

Rocky C
11-29-13, 05:02 PM
Outstanding !!! I clicked on it twice and it blew up.

Congrats, it's beautiful...

batw
11-29-13, 05:36 PM
why thank you Rocky I'll tell my son that. he took some time and wrote the program
and then the mill does the rest. i had a terrible time getting a decent flic of it i gotta figure out a way to get lighting without all the reflection .

SGT7477
11-30-13, 10:47 AM
Ok we stole the anchor from the Navy, the rope from the army, the eagle from the air force, and with that we have been protecting America and the world ever since, OOHRAH,Semper Fidelis.