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thedrifter
12-13-03, 08:43 AM
Submitted by: MCB Camp Butler
Story Identification Number: 2003121215923
Story by Lance Cpl. Chris Korhonen



CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa, Japan -- There are many Military Occupational Specialties in the Marine Corps, but has anyone come across an in-flight missile technician or an underwater sniper?

These are just some of the answers one may get when asking why a Marine has a red patch on their camouflage utility uniform.
However, the real story behind these Marines wearing the red patches began six decades ago.

During World War II, Marines of Pioneer Battalion said they needed a distinct marking or uniform to distinguish the support personnel working on the beach from the combat troops landing on the beach and moving inland for assault. There, supposedly, was a very good reason for this.

"From what I've been told, and obviously I wasn't there, some of the infantry
Marines didn't want to go and fight," said Sgt. Jason M. Leader, assistant operations chief, Engineering Platoon, Support Company, 3rd Trans-portation Support Battalion. "Some Marines would say they were in engineering to avoid going to combat."

To remedy that problem, shore personnel working on the beaches wore a 1-inch by 1-inch red patch on their cover, a 1-inch by 3-inch patch on each leg and a 1-inch by 1-inch patch in the middle of the back of their jackets during the Korean War.

The red patch was taken off the jackets after the Korean War, but the distinction of being a shore party Marine and wearing the red patch became part of the history, tradition and pride of the battalion.
Today it also makes the Marines of 3rd TSB stand out from other Marines.

"I can look anywhere and see my Marines. I know who is actually in TSB and say; hey those are my guys," said Sgt. Steve Y. Laramee, section leader, Engineering Platoon.
Third TSB Marines are constantly bombarded with questions from Marines and other service members and civilians about the patches.

"You do get a lot of questions, especially from other services that don't see Marines very often," Leader said.

Some of the more common rumors Leader has heard was the red patches represent 'confirmed kill patches' and `underwater demolition specialist.'
Laramee enjoys the rumors and uses them as springboards for telling questioners funny stories.

"Sometimes when I'm in uniform at another camp, Marines will ask about the patch and I tell them the truth, but first I will tell them I'm an underwater sniper or an in-flight missile tech," the Cleveland Ohio native said. "It gets their wheels turning for a minute and they have to think about it," Laramee said.

There have been many changes in the Marine Corps and the unit since the early days of the Pioneer Battalion; however, all TSB Marines have maintained the distinction of being the only Marines allowed to wear the distinctive red patch.

The individuality does lead to some pride, if not the interesting stories on what the patches mean.

"I've told Marines that we are just so hard we put a bull's-eye on our forehead because we are that fearless and we are not worried about getting hit," Laramee added. "Some Marines catch on right away that we are joking, but others give you the deer in the headlights look and wonder, is that really possible?"

So the next time someone sees a Marine with a red patch on their uniform, they will know those Marines are not really an in-flight missile technician. And if someone is a part of 3rd TSB, it might be time to start thinking up new explanations for the red patches.

Marines wearing the red patches signify they are part of 3rd TSB, a distinction for
those Marines since the Korean War.

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Sempers,

Roger
:marine:

usmchauer
12-15-03, 05:45 PM
Good article SSgt. Now we all know! When I was in Comm School at 29 Palms I saw a Marine with the same red patches stitched on his utilities. I made the mistake of asking him what they meant and he told me that it was because he was in Alcohol Awareness classes.... stupid me I believed him! lol

hankhoffman
12-27-03, 06:30 PM
They called them LSB in the 80's. Landing Support Battalion

cjdoyle
12-29-03, 03:37 AM
I am currently with 3rd TSB over here in Oki you could only imagine some of the stuff we can come with to answer the questio "why the red patches?" haha
curt

Jule Spohn
03-24-08, 03:46 PM
My first duty assignment after boot camp back in 1960 was with with 1st Landing Support Company of the Second Marine Division Shore Party Battalion which was also part of the Second Service Battalion. The Battalion was commanded at that time by Col. M. S. Haltom. It was a great outfit to be with. We wore the red patch on our covers and on the legs of our utilities.

This was the first time I had "gone over the nets" to get into the "mike" (sp?) boats which would take us on to land. On this particular trip to Vieques, PR, I went back and forth on the USS Vermillion KA-107 and the USS Cambria PA-36. These ships were carrying ammunition and had to be docked three miles off shore and we then had to take these smaller boats to the landing site.

Once the guys had the beach set up they had the following huge sign put in place on the beach:

WE HAVE DONE SO MUCH, WITH SO LITTLE, FOR SO LONG, WE NOW DO EVERYTHING
WITH NOTHING. It was signed: 1st Shore Party Team.
Along the perimeter of this sign were the words: SARDINA, NORTH AFRICA, CRETE, SPAIN, ONSLOW, LEBANON, TURKEY, and VIEQUES.

This was a huge, probably four foot by four foot, sign with white backing with red letters, and right next to it was the same size sign all in red with not lettering on it.

ZSKI
03-24-08, 04:01 PM
Worked with a few red patchers, they absolutly enjoy ****ing with people about it.

temarti
03-25-08, 07:50 AM
Once a patcher always a patcher, as HE operators we use to say we were "in-flight missle repair men, it's a b#$ch when you drop your tools"

silverdollar
03-25-08, 09:01 AM
I was with Shore Party with 1st Marine Brigade in 1954, my mos was 1375 Demo spec, we also cleared beaches of mines.